Le Mans Ultimate Review: One Week Later

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One week and three hotfixes later, how does LMU feel? Has it changed significantly, especially for the better? Cody is giving it a second try...
00:00 Introduction
00:56 Here we go (again)
03:28 Let's Get Moving
08:00 Is It Better Now?
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@rjbishop6128
@rjbishop6128 5 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when I tried the free week on Star Citizen. They really got away with a lot by labelling it 'early access' at the last minute :p
@Hamdog74
@Hamdog74 4 ай бұрын
For real, it seems like it shouldn’t even be for sale for how unoptimised it is. My computer runs acc fine but it literally took 10 minutes to load into a race and gave me a whole 3fps 💀 I know a lot of sim racing fans own nasa computers but it’s so ridiculously bad. I thought something like Fallout 76 on release was bad, at least as broken as that trash was it was somewhat playable 💀
@RDEstevao
@RDEstevao 5 ай бұрын
I did have problems in the first hour, with very very slow menus before racing, and I "fixed" it by setting vsync on in NVIDIA control panel, and it does not matter the setting ingame. Apart from that, everything went really smooth. All my peripherals were recognized, and it runs really well in any track with very rare fps drops. I have lost FFB once, easily solved by pressing the assigned reset ffb button. Awesome physics and FFB, great sounds, great graphics. My only problem is that I cannot race against all 3 classes at the same time (offline mode), or else I have only around 20fps! But maybe it is because of my cpu, I have not dug on it yet. I have a very modest setup: i7 8700k, rtx 2070 super, moza r9. Maybe I am one of those lucky basterds, and you are one of those unlucky ones! :) And congrats Cody, this video is a clear evolution from the previous one, you are getting there, keep it up mate ;)
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Cody's collecting all tweaks and will implement them as soon as he has the time... THANK YOU!
@mornejoubert8416
@mornejoubert8416 5 ай бұрын
Apart from long loading times and some graphic glitches, I've not had any other issues.
@Stormin_Norman
@Stormin_Norman 5 ай бұрын
Hmm, what is your internet connection? I'm running Windows 11 home, an RTX 3080 with 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700K, and 32 gigs of DDR5 with no problems. I have frozen up a few times and the Ai always seems to boot me off the track but the racing is fluid. I'm sorry to hear you're having such trouble.
@cody_swanson
@cody_swanson 5 ай бұрын
AT&T Gigabit Fiber, 1000 up, 1000 down.
@TheRcsavage
@TheRcsavage 5 ай бұрын
Admittedly, I have a high end PC, 4090, I9 13900k, 64gb ram but I must say, I have no issues with they way the game looks and runs. Seems like a great sim so far, and it's all I have been running since it came out. So of the load times are long but I can live with it. Online, I occasionally get the wrong car at load in practice, but it syncs up after I return to the pits. After that the races are flawless.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
If that would be the only issue we encountered, our opinion would be different. But good for you, of course.
@ThePaulRyder34
@ThePaulRyder34 5 ай бұрын
I have almost zero issues now. Running everything on high rather than ultra per advice for now (fixes fps and stuttering issues for now). As for FFB I checked my TM control panel before loading as it defaulted to 6%. If get issues with FFB in game F10 resets it (had none since). Menu also resolved by turning on vsync (video) for now. I get rare CTD but I mean 3 this week in 10 hours of 1-2 hour sessions.
@roy_33nl
@roy_33nl 5 ай бұрын
I did 7 or 8 races online without any issues, even did a 2.4 hour at Le Mans yesterday. It seems very divided, a lot of people experience a lot of the same issues, and a lot that hardly experience any issues. Loading isn't that long, but i have it on a fast m.2 drive, which might make a difference. I don't mind that it has bugs, i play a lot of ams2, so i am used to a lot....lol
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
My theory, informed by many years in software development is that those with systems near to these S397 tested with have the least issues. The more away you are from those reference systems, the more issues you'll get. I don't know how many different test systems S397 had and how they look like, of course, so it's a theory based on projects I've dealt with or heard about from colleagues.
@GeorgeFoulerRacing
@GeorgeFoulerRacing 5 ай бұрын
Not sure whats up with your system. Runs fine on a GTX3060, 10700KF and 32gb ram. rF2 is CPU resource intensive processing the physics and AI, so LMU will be the same.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, those 3.000 Hz from rF2 sure take a toll on the CPU. I imagine it's the same for LMU.
@GeorgeFoulerRacing
@GeorgeFoulerRacing 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom I have edited the json files to cap the frame rate and a few other minor things. So as a newbie this could be thier experience. Not sure on the target audience and if they would appreciate the nuances.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
What is the exact name of the variable? I mean, I suppose it's something like maxframerate, but it's easier to find if you know exactly what to search for...
@GeorgeFoulerRacing
@GeorgeFoulerRacing 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom "Max Framerate" in settings.json
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeFoulerRacingI was near enough... 🙂 Thank you! /sf
@kentstephens4732
@kentstephens4732 5 ай бұрын
I have been playing every night since launch and I have no issues with either graphics or wheel. But, I have a low end wheel (tmx) and my computer is older, so I only have set to High and then a couple things like shadows set to low. Personally, and just one random person's opinion, it has been extremely fun, especially online but offline as well. I am a huge fan of rF2, so likely I am biased, I guess!
@blangille6407
@blangille6407 5 ай бұрын
I hear that system ram needs to be more than the 16 gigs that are recommended. I have 32 and have very little performance issues.
@cody_swanson
@cody_swanson 5 ай бұрын
I've got 32gb as well. With this performance, it feels like 32mb 😅
@raul-fh6cb
@raul-fh6cb 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I upgraded from 8GB to 32GB and now rub silky smooth
@Eyck-head
@Eyck-head 5 ай бұрын
Yep my RAM is also capping hard in the game, I think it's the biggest bottleneck. I run all graphics on max and have no issues apart from the 1st 60 secs after loading in a track after that the game stabilizes and runs 100fps+. Fairly sure that this coincides with the long loading times, something there has to be pretty janky to run so slow on SSDs and RAM
@elvish4432
@elvish4432 5 ай бұрын
Thought about making racing sweaters while you load😂🤣😂
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea :-D
@DustySticks
@DustySticks 5 ай бұрын
Game just isnt stable enough and for whatever reason my FFB doesnt even provide feedback on flatspots despite running default FFB. Honestly seeing how others drive vs me driving it feels like I'm playing a different game than them.
@elnando8777
@elnando8777 5 ай бұрын
if you dont feel flatspotting something really wrong with your hardware
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Or the software is not sending the right or strong enough signals to the hardware.
@elnando8777
@elnando8777 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWromwroooong, the software outputs fllatspotting in a beautiful way, if you play with a g29 is hard to feel them
@MM-mx8sr
@MM-mx8sr 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWromi feel Everything the car is doing. On default setting!
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Perfect!
@marcosicolo4542
@marcosicolo4542 5 ай бұрын
I’m playing this game on a gaming laptop. I had some issues with the game freezing and some poor performances in single player, once I updated the G force drivers, everything was fixed. I know I shouldn’t have to work to get a game to work properly, but it is early release and this sim is so good that I don’t mind
@jssimsport1821
@jssimsport1821 5 ай бұрын
@WromWrom Wow it seems your system and this game really don't like each other. But I am pretty sure there is something in your system that either doesn't like the game or that the game doesn't like. On my end I managed to run this game smoothly on a GTX980 and a 5 year old CPU. Yes it is 720p on low settings but it runs at 120fps... With 1080p, it ran 60-70fps but with occasional drops. What flipped the switch for me was to reduce the amount of sound samples playing simultanously. Maybe that lead can help you ? Also the last update improved things quite a lot for me. It is a shame you have all these issues. Because when this sim fires on all cylinders, it really delivers a great driving experience. I am eager to see it mature and what the finished product.
@jamesbryant8133
@jamesbryant8133 5 ай бұрын
Game has run stable on mid graphics for me on my mid range setup. Online practice is unstable, only been booted from one race. Cpu/gpu isn't very high but some reason runs hot.
@bencevarga3508
@bencevarga3508 5 ай бұрын
I have zero issues since launch (no crashes or freezes) running 1080p high with amd 3700x rx 5700 xt and 16GB ram (90-100 fps)
@BikesandBarbellsYT
@BikesandBarbellsYT 5 ай бұрын
When i Play this Game i get arround 200 FPS in qhd with my oced 3080 I only get lag when i am in the Pits or the Main straight when there IS a Lot of ai because it swallows CPU i drop down to 13 FPS then with my ryzen 7 5800x
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
It's wild the different experiences people have with LMU. Let's hope further updates make it workable for everyone... /sf
@anticommoncore4065
@anticommoncore4065 5 ай бұрын
I guess I've been lucky, not one problem since install. LMU runs great except for slow UI response. 12700K/4090, Win10, CSL DD, V3 pedals.
@fexee5418
@fexee5418 5 ай бұрын
It seems like your script for the video is the known issues list of Studio 397
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
If you think so, you either haven't watched the video or haven't read the known issues list, which we went thru on our news last Sunday. /sf
@justpostedagain
@justpostedagain 5 ай бұрын
Wow, that is bad. There must be some sort of conflict I suppose. Certainly not what happens to me. Even VR runs at about 90FPS.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
It's crazy how some have no issues, others have a world of pain, innit?
@roccothamanoidis
@roccothamanoidis 5 ай бұрын
VR in LMU?
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
@@roccothamanoidisThere's a hack to use VR. It's not officially supported (yet)
@MM-mx8sr
@MM-mx8sr 5 ай бұрын
Btw i too have a 3070ti, i get 120-140 fps with my settings and it looks good.
@ShredhedGaming
@ShredhedGaming 4 ай бұрын
i5-13600kf 16gb ram rtx 4060 and I'm not having many issues
@bardly123
@bardly123 5 ай бұрын
I literally only have the occasional crash. All I did to fix everything was go from 2k to 1080p
@bardly123
@bardly123 5 ай бұрын
Oh and I have a 3070
@dante316a
@dante316a 5 ай бұрын
I got a 3060ti and it runs a lot better on my computer with almost everything on high and ultra, except for shadows
@damiendegrasse
@damiendegrasse 5 ай бұрын
Ive not seen anyone with such bad performance so far, impressive.
@NoemiSzalai
@NoemiSzalai 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this honest review. I bought this game and I sadly had exactly the same issues. 😔 It is a shame because it looks so good when I watch streamers play it but on my PC it didn't let me do 2 laps in a row without lagging or freezing.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@pequeno77
@pequeno77 5 ай бұрын
it's a preview as it's in eary acces, you should understand what you buy...
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
It's NOT a preview. It has all tracks and cars of the WEC '23 and was expected to be a full release on December '23, which was moved to full release on February '24 which was moved at the 11th hour to "Early Access" in February 2024. Considering how many people have issues (and GREAT for those who haven't) I'm not sure I would even call it a beta, but let's be friendly and call it an "Early Access Beta". By no way is this a preview the way eg Wreckfest started as a preview.
@NoemiSzalai
@NoemiSzalai 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom Exactly - it's "Late Access" if anything, because the full game was already supposed to be ready. 😄 It should be 99% finished at this point and just need a few minor fixes. If you are charging $30 for a game the game needs to work for most players - it felt to me like I should be the one getting paid to play it. 😅 If the game was free or $5 I would understand the Early Access excuse.
@pequeno77
@pequeno77 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom let me disagree here, ok it should have been ready but they sell it as Early access, there is nothing hideous there. Sure no1 expected to buy a full game and got this instead. Preview is not the proper word i admit. The people wanting a smooth experience should always avoid early access games.
@elvish4432
@elvish4432 5 ай бұрын
CODY!!!!!!!🤘👍✌️Waz Up
@whiskerzgaming1296
@whiskerzgaming1296 5 ай бұрын
They should be ashamed even releasing an ea game in that condition
@damiendegrasse
@damiendegrasse 5 ай бұрын
Well, it's going very well for them so IMO it was the right decision, they know what chunk of the drivers they were hoping would enjoy it despite the far from perfect state.
@whiskerzgaming1296
@whiskerzgaming1296 4 ай бұрын
@@damiendegrasse just shows how starved to death the sim racing community is for a solid product that just works
@brooksy2622
@brooksy2622 5 ай бұрын
The game runs well for me 80% of the time. Your rig does not run this game well :( If you look at the YT’s you can see what good looks like. When it runs and runs well, best racing SIM hands down…already….in EA. Loads to come
@carlgray6764
@carlgray6764 5 ай бұрын
all i can say is lower your resolution and all your problems will greatly disappear ... and in my own experience the game still looks amazing . i went from 4K to 2K capped at 165fps and it stays at 165fps rock solid ... hopefully this will help you get to enjoy the game as it should be experienced .
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
As you can CLEARLY see in the video, Cody reduce the whole graphics to VERY LOW. The problems did not disappear.
@carlgray6764
@carlgray6764 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom i did see that but im on about screen resolution ... hopefully he will get better results with the patch next week!
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
@@carlgray6764You mean Cody having it run on a widescreen? May be. It shouldn't but it may be.
@viunetwork5142
@viunetwork5142 5 ай бұрын
It is an rFactor2 30 Euro reskin pack with the old experience of the rfactor2 - nice progression in game development!
@MrKram56
@MrKram56 5 ай бұрын
I have a mid range PC and it works great for me :/
@silvio5006
@silvio5006 5 ай бұрын
Can not confirm this problems that you have on my system.... Have you maybe afterburner or/and Rivatuner on or any gpu/CPU overclock? This is a known issue that these cause problems at the moment.... The laggy menu dosen't exist anymore... You got something on your system what causes these kind of problems... Have you checked all the things you can do on the LMU Discord? There are a good amount of things what can help to make it work... S397 are very activ on the discord.
@elnando8777
@elnando8777 5 ай бұрын
your pc struggles at recording your microphone, what did you expect with a game? ahahahh
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
That's not how windows as an OS works. OBS struggles because LMU eats up all GPU and CPU cycles and leaves nothing for other applications, as windows does not set it boundaries. /sf
@elnando8777
@elnando8777 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrommy dear programmer, if you cap your framerate you'll solve your issues
@dannyadams5250
@dannyadams5250 5 ай бұрын
I’m running the game using a rtx2080 and a r7 9700k with no problems. I had to lower some settings but the game looks and plays fine.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
What could be the issue here? Cody reduced all settings to potato and you saw how it had framedrops galore... And while of course having OBS running impacts the GPU, a 3070 should be able to work with both, especially when the sim is at "very low"... /sf
@dannyadams5250
@dannyadams5250 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure. I have taken advantage of several Nvidia optimizations videos to improve my performance on my pc. You could try that.
@roy_33nl
@roy_33nl 5 ай бұрын
​@@WromWrom when using nvenc in obs, this shouldn't affect the game too much, turning down post effects to low males a huge fps difference, might need to try lowering that if that isn't set like that already
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Post effects in OBS. I doubt Cody has any of those but I'll sure let him know. /sf
@roy_33nl
@roy_33nl 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom no, sorry i wasn't clear, post effects ingame i meant
@matthewbyrd398
@matthewbyrd398 5 ай бұрын
Everyone I know that plays online with no issues is in Europe. I’m in the states and have not been able to play online, at all. Won’t run.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
That's... strange. But Cody's in the States too. While I don't understand why there should be a reason, there seems to be a correlation there. Until we find enough people in the states able to use it without an issue, of course.
@JMak02
@JMak02 5 ай бұрын
I’m also in the United States and mostly race online, only issue I’ve had is laggy menu before the race but it hasn’t prevented me from getting on races. It was pretty easy to set up also but I’m coming from rf2 so i was familiar with it to start
@matthewbyrd398
@matthewbyrd398 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom I got on their Discord channel this morning and they have dev support on the Discord. Hopefully I can get it running again. My other problem seems to be caused by running Sim Hub with the game.
@matthewbyrd398
@matthewbyrd398 5 ай бұрын
@@JMak02 hmmm. I’m having major problems getting the game to run at all now. Played with zero issues for the first three days, then BOOM CRASH…won’t run. Windows keeps putting it in “efficiency mode”.
@JMak02
@JMak02 5 ай бұрын
@@matthewbyrd398 for sure strange. I don’t think good performance being locked to European regions is a thing though especially if other players in similar areas as you don’t have these issues
@samulation5047
@samulation5047 5 ай бұрын
performance is so bad.. hypercars feel undrivable, only good thing is GTE races if the server doesn't crash. still cars are glitching all over the place, ui is weird and buggy, when i click start driving i can drive but the overview menu keeps in frame for another 10 seconds if the game decides to not crash
@elnando8777
@elnando8777 5 ай бұрын
rotfl are you on apotato pc?
@trashgamer3318
@trashgamer3318 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s a skill issue I thought the same thing but then I got good
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
It's a skill issue if the software crashes?!?
@trashgamer3318
@trashgamer3318 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom im talking about his comment on the hyper cars
@elnando8777
@elnando8777 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWromthe software crashes because your machine is unstable full of virus maybe, i've played the game and had no issues
@cameoappearanc3
@cameoappearanc3 5 ай бұрын
I had to refund this. I know it’s early access and for it not to be feature complete but for me at least was a total mess. Unplayable.
@ShredhedGaming
@ShredhedGaming 4 ай бұрын
Yeah im sorry but youre making this game look wirse than it is.
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 4 ай бұрын
Thing is... WE are showing what we see. On a system powerful enough to have other sims on VR. You tell me who's doing what... /sf
@silvio5006
@silvio5006 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but it looks like you make something wrong.... Is it afterburner or something like overclocking undervolting or something else... The game has his problems but it is not so damn fucked as your system handles this game... The problem is something on your system not the game...
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
Thing is... all other sims work on Cody's system. This one's the only one with these issues. /sf
@silvio5006
@silvio5006 5 ай бұрын
@@WromWrom the thing is also that a thousands of people play this game without such massive problems, included myself...
@WromWrom
@WromWrom 5 ай бұрын
@@silvio5006Absolutely, but there's many people with issues. The code seems not to be mature enough to support diverse systems, and PCs are known for being complex to support. We hope with enough updates this will even out. /sf
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