Intro: 0:00 - 1:12 Overview: 1:12 - 2:30 1. (pro/con) essentially a Warhammer 95 reprint on steroids: 2:30 - 3:45 2. (con) typos and inconsisticnes: 3:45 - 6:39 3. (pro) emphasis on player progression: 6:39 - 7:39 4. (pro/con) designed for/requires a full/diverse party. Can make solo-play difficult: 7:39 - 8:24 5. (pro) Quality standees, game is "miniature agnostic": 8:24 - 9:13 6. (con/nitpick) standee holders complaints: 9:13 - 10:04 7. (pro) Bestiary is great: 10:04 - 11:32 8. (pro) Strong dungeon simulation: 11:32 - 13:29 9. (pro/con/nitpick) lack of art assets: 13:29 - 15:29 10. (pro) Loot: 15:29 - 17:07 11. (pro/con) tactical/dynamic combat: 17:07 - 18:20 12. (pro) Quantity/quality of quests: 18:20 - 20:20 Conclusion: 20:20 - 22:14 Patron Q&A: 22:14 - 30:44

Thank you for your review. It’s very sad to hear about all the rules mistakes and typos. That was a problem in the Print and Play version too. I have a background in English and writing. I actually reached out to Michael and offered to proof read the book free of charge. He sent me the first draft and I did a round of edits for him, but I think we both got busy and never did anything else. This is another reason that I do not agree with his decision to not sell the PDF first. A lot of this could have been avoided if backers were given early access to the PDF. Shawn Tompkin did that with Starforged and it turned out amazingly for him. Alas, I guess the eratta will have to do. Thanks again for your coverage of this game.

Great review. It's informative to everyone involved. The designer has been engaged with the public, honest and passionate every step of the way. For a KS, what more can anyone ask for?

The map for Forbidden Lands RPG looks very similar. It's also different for every group since settlements and ruins are rolled up as the group travels. I'm guessing that LoD works in a similar way. I hate traveling in role-playing games, but this approach makes it a game all by itself.

Really appreciate this review and how you cover both the good and the bad. It sounds like LoD has some issues unfortunately but I'm still excited to get it to the table. It was an ambitious project and I'm happy that the community is supporting projects/games like these getting made.

Appreciate your coverage of this. I can’t get enough.

Thanks, Daniel. Great balanced review. I’m all in on this already. Looking forward to homebrew adventures appearing out there. Also as an old school D&D player and DM it’s actually ideal to have some freedom to embellish the basic story and lore with my own elements.

I have decided to look at this as a framework for fun rather than a complete game. Another well thought out analysis of an amazing game. Thank you.

Thanks for a comprehensive review, it was very insightful and looks to be a rewarding experience after you climbed over some hurdles

great video, thanks!

The questing mechanic has some Journey's to the Overland vibes

Nice video of this great game ordered 😊

Thanks. Your enthusiasm is contagious. Agreed on solo games with more than one hero. D100 Dungeeon, for instance, works for me; Four Against Darkness does not.

I actually designed one of the quests for this game. Around 19:30, over in the top right section, I made Random Quest #15: Tower of the Troll King. If anyone has run that one, I'd love to hear more about it, I'll also answer questions if anyone has them.

On my table now. Looking forward to talking about it with you on the podcast in a few weeks

Great review. I am kind of turned down by a couple of points but it surely sound more than interesting. Easy solo experience and effortless setup are two things that I am kind of looking for right now. That said, those 12 points really flesh out the whole package, really appreciated it.

Great review Daniel! (I come from 30 mins in the future so I know!) 😁

Appreciate the review as I am unbelievably stoked for this game to arrive! This will be one of the greatest board games ever. Any chance you could do a full play through of several quests? I’ve yet to see that content released at this point. Only a play through from the creator Michael and Robs table top. Even those were brief though.

If treasure cards are drawn then put right back, with no card art, I'd prefer just rolling on a chart. Cheaper to produce and easier to manage. Also, easier to expand.

Nice video Daniel! … listening to your Patron Q’s… made me think of one for you. Q: Part 1, You said that LoD would be a game that could make folks who wish they had WHQ 95 satiated… the question is for you…you have time to Dungeon crawl, do you take out WHQ or LoD ? Q: Part 2, can you see pulling Out WHQ again now that LoD exists?…it seems better in just about every way.

Great points and I appreciate the comparisons to other games. I know previously Darklight Memento Mori had been compared to WHQ95 and this looks to be more customizable in character progression. Is that a fair statement and what other comparisons can be made to DMM?

4 months later I finally get my copy. I rolled up some characters really quickly, did the opening skirmish, then realised i didn’t know what i was doing, so went back, made my usual A4 bullet point notes, and created a new team If you jettison the fugly plastic doors the core game collapses nicely into a limited space. I've now rolled a dwarven warrior priest, an elven mage, a human alchemist and a halfling thief, all with their own back stories. Of course, the first potion prepared by my alchemist opens all locks ! Can't wait to try the first dungeon crawl tomorrow. There are for sure some issues with the rules, but its very far from being a car crash. I'll probably end up with one more player aid to catch a few bits and pieces, and use the scenario sheet to jot down key stats. Using the playing card deck for ini seems slightly smoother than using the tokens. Slightly strange to be playing without a speed stat. Now i just need to get the dungeon crawl turn cycle under my belt.

The fact that you need all four makes it very hard to solo. But as a soloist I go with it. On my solo rpg sessions I never manage more than two.

I just got Tanares Adventures and I find there are quite some similarities, sadly most of which I'm not looking for anymore. I'm more and more looking for effortless adventure, not game play simulation especially of old-fashioned dungeons with trope themes and endless randomization tables. But that's just me. There is a market obviously for this type of experience. Thanks for the video series and...keep on exploring!

The errors and typos are too bad because it may put off some people. It is also why I believe that rules should be PDF or online and be living rules. Errata is fine BUT if we are going to have more than a few pages of errata, it is a PITA to refer to. I hope the expansion has a reprinting of the rulebook. I am happy to pay for updated book. I do not like those standee stands either. I have created my own 3D model for the stands that do not grip or scratch. I am just waiting to measure the standees thickness so I can print a new batch. I love the combat is dynamic as that is what I like most about Pathfinder 2e.

Getting excited now…………..

I wish I knew 3 people to play this with -- I did not back the 1st print of this however. That said, perhaps 2nd print I'll be more tempted (with corrections/expansion added in?). Perhaps by then I'll make friends with 3 other RPG gamers.

Needless to say the dungeon crawling element of this is rather tasty. The wandering monsters closing in just when you need to rest, the randomness, granularity, loot, campaigns meaty enough to enable character development to really shine, all good stuff. I reckon the closest comparison is probably Folklore, (especially with all the extras) because the base mechanics and granularity are so similar, even over say DUN, great though that system is. I would be curious however to know why Michael decided to ditch a conventional ini / speed check on encounters.

It seems to me like there was a weird internet debate about how to pronounce bestiary. I never found out what that debate was going on about but anyone I ever heard say it growing up would say beastiary. I've been trying to get over it but needless to say that hasn't happened yet haha.

2nd Printing crowdfund is up now. Backed!

It would be cool to round out this series with a compare/contrast topic by topic, point by point, of League of Dungeoneers vs Dungeon Universalis (pros vs cons vs tie/nuetral)

Thanks again Daniel for continuing your excellent LoD series. Just wondering if you have any further thoughts on the initial concerns of the Dex/Wis heavy skills during character creation? Have you found the combat well balanced for characters that are traditionally more strength focused?

As far as typos go, they just announced that they are once again adding the pdf for KS backers. I'm hoping that they update it with corrections. I prefer doing the bulk of my reading in pdf anyway.

When you were unboxing the game I got very interested in getting it but wow I've never heard of a board game with this many issues on release. I hope the next printing has all the fixes in it because I would really like to get it.

I backed this Kickstarter and am still awaiting my package to arrive. However, from what I’ve seen of early reviews, it will not replace my preferred WHQ95 successor, Dungeon Universalis.

Interesting review. I was thinking about picking it up, but sounds like there are too many issues for my liking.

I cant wait to get my copy but it really is a shame about all they typos and mistakes. It might have been better this time to get on the 2nd printing, since they may fix all the mistakes. I would like to add, that this does happen. My Rangers of Shadow Deep Deluxe edition has some glaring mistakes and even Starforged that was a living document to all backers has some.

Great review!! I was wondering if you could suggest a couple of alternatives for this kind of games, but with a lighter system, and suitable for a solo sand box experience.

How deep would you say the character customization is? Like can you build a class in different ways and they actually feel different? Like for instance can you build a warrior centered around using 2 h weapons vs a warrior centered around dual wielding etc… I ask because the depth of character customization is probably the biggest factor for me.

Im interested which is the strongest emergent narrative game between this and Dungeon Universalis and why?

Do you think one would need League of Duneonee if you already have games like d100 Dungeon? I feel they could hit the same spot. Even though not direclty the same genre.

Typos in a fantasy setting are not an issue, especially considering spelling 'issues' between English UK and US "English". Only an issue if creates a rules issue and Michael is on top of those.

How do we get this game?

We could say is an rpg hybrid based on what I have seen.

I'm more of a "single session" board gamer but I'm intruiged by this campaign like adventure style over months. To me this kind of games stand or fall with the management phase. The tracking of information shouldnt be more involved than the game itself. So to those people having experience with it hear me out: What is the appeal to you for a game like League of D. when PC games like Wartales oder Battle Brothers (Gloomhaven PC game to an extent) offer almost the exact same experience but without all the tedious setup, tracking of minute details like torches etc. ? I mean there is no improvisation involved like in a RPG that can't be done by a computer a lot faster.

Disappointed to hear about all the typos and mistakes in the rulebooks. If you pay $100 plus for a game, you shouldn't have to pay extra to get a pdf with corrections.

Unfortunate this is so solo unfriendly. I’m also really irked this game requires certain classes. thief characters are my least favorite to play and being pigeon holed into having one is both limiting and frustrating. Will probably just sell this when it arrives if that’s the case.

I heard this game is very fiddly when it comes to survival mechanics. For example having enough food, warm clothing, etc. Did you experience that? That is a major turn off for me.

Great video, thank you. Your thoughts around LoD being best with 3 friends is a concern as I backed it as a solo player and am now worried I won't get the most out of it because of the amount of bookkeeping and stat/skill/ability overheads. I'm sure Michael is frustrated and disappointed about the errors that require the errata and faq. I offered during the campaign to help with this after seeing typos in the early prototypes, as I'm sure others did as well, but I guess when you've paid 'professionals' then you'd expect to have it covered. I will not be paying more money for an up to date rulebook in any format so I hope notes will be enough.