He had so much more patience this game than he usually does, a lot of calm reactions early on. Usually he would be so worked up so fast lol

“Go kill him!” Spins away and and just watches Kayn die 🤣

Neace is like that voice in my head that knows what to do, but my body doesn't get that, so it goes into fight or flight mode. This video perfectly summarizes that same scenario. A ton of flying and no fighting.

My jaw dropped when that kayn ganked and he ran away. I would go afk if my laner did that after spam pinging me

This is not my proudest game for sure. However, I underestimated my abilty to quick react to what he was telling me. I learned and will do better because of it. Maybe ill try again in the future and have a better understanding of what is needed. Thanks for the advice and the patience with me on this rough coaching.

I used to be afraid to fight and taking risk but man Once you stop caring about dying and concentrate on your gameplay you find out that taking risk beats running away all the time, not only you give pressure away but also put yourself in a state of mind that you will never win against what you are fighting. As soon as I discovered this I realize that I win most fights if I just commit instead of being scared.

honestly if I were the jungler after that first play I'd have made a mental note not to go gank top again Laners don't realize it because they're ego maniacs, but junglers ALL keep a note of which lanes are worth ganking and which are a waste of time

that fight at 4 min was sooo good, then so bad all the sudden, starts long sword pots then hesitates. love it

@29:00 "If I'm telling u to go into a situation like this, I know we're probably dead" was the most honorable and heartfelt sht i've heard Neace said.

I know Neace just laughed the 1st gank off but that was such a misplay mainly because not only did he miss the kill which would have snowballed the entire match, but he lost the jungler's trust. As as jungler, if that happened at one of my games i would think twice about ganking top again, because i would had to solokill the darius. Its just better to gank bot from there on

I see this pattern with a lot of these students/players. @Neace I think it would benefit them to hear out loud that these sessions are NOT about winning, but about learning. Usually I see Neace voice it after the face as "I don't care" as in I don't care if you die, I want you to see the play. But its usually to late, the moment has past them and the lesson is gone. Hearing about it after is about as valuable as us watching the videos. I think as soon as you see a pattern of not listening you should let them know these games are not being played to win NOW but to win going forward.

i almost smashed my own keyboard when he spun away from the first gank lol

I actually know why this guy is doing what hes doing and this is a habit i often see in his elo specifically (Silver, Specifically silver 1/2 lobbies), hes playing to not die. He's not going in or following calls cause hes afraid he will die. Now i dont know if this is a habit from the design that he knows this video is going to be public or if he does this regularly whenever hes playing ranked. Season 12, that shit dont fly no more. You have to be willing to risk your kd for the game, if you arent then you might as well just leave the game.

This sesh confirms to me that going hard and me dying to get my adc fed is worth.

4:06 I loved this moment. You either cry or laugh about that one. I died laughing on this one xD

We gotta understand that Neace is a streamer and he's more than fine if thousands watch him live, but an average dude gets nervous under that kind of pressure. Your mind gets clouded and you're trying so hard to keep control, but the nagging feeling that spotlight is on you can be a crushing feeling for a first timer.

As a Kayn player, I would never gank you again

"Press the + sign on your keyboard once" Guy proceeds to click the plus sign on screen…. Can't even follow directions outside of the game.

NEACE, something you could try with clients like this who won't follow your directions is to ask them questions. I noticed coaches in your bootcamp doing this to some success. Either the clients are A) not thinking about what they're doing or B) thinking the opposite of what you're thinking and don't TRUST you. Or some combination. Asking them the question, "what's your plan right now?" (just 'what are you thinking' can be a little too antagonistic and make them automatically defensive rather than actually getting them to ask themselves the question) can snap them out of whatever automatic response they're on, or will allow you to go into reasoning as to why they don't trust you. Obviously, they paid for the coaching, they know you know your shit, but why can't they trust what you're saying? You could also ask them what you think are the important questions and then lead them to the right answer. Mad respect for your patience. I think live coaching is probably an art form no one has really come close to your level of expertise on, for league at least.

Even though this client didn’t take awake much, I think this is still helpful for me and a lot of others when it comes to remembering that sometimes you have to set up a play by peeling back the layers; ie. forcing summoners, getting boneplating off, setting up a big wave for a potential dive, etc. Even though this concept is something I’ve begun to work on, sometimes I fall back into bad habit and lazy gameplay so this is a great reminder.

the quick fight or flight response at 4:10 gave me ptsd from when i was in silver. Thank god im bronze now

Maybe I watch too many Neace videos but I have the Neace voice in the back of head when I play at all times now. I never stay still because if I do I can hear Neace saying, "Do wolves. Go to chickens, don't just stand here dude." Or the camera control is probably the thing he helped me out with most. Whenever my teammates are fighting I can hear "Camera! I dont wanna see Narnia!" Its funny but honestly it worked. I genuinely think alot of Neace's clients havent watched a ton of his videos before purchasing the coaching.

Me playing league and needs to make a decision: my brain: what would neace do *you have been banned for flaming your teammates*

Lmao the student was 20x more responsive and engaged than 90% of the others shown on this channel. Educational if nothing else.

I think the session was great because you really get to see the mistake of lost opportunity. This is what's hardest to recognize and probably the reason why a lot of people feel like they don't have agency.

When that gang went down and Neace said oh my god and grabbed his head I literally was doing the same exact thing real time. Good learning moment though!

The way this guy is playing, he should switch to mid and play a long range APC. His I never want to die style isnt for Trynd, but would be fine on like, Xerath/Lux/Ziggs. High risk high reward champs like Trynd, or even get up in there and push their stuff in bruisers that are normally played in top just aren't going to be for this guy anytime soon. Imagine if this guy played vs a decent Illaoi how bad it would've gone.

tbf to this guy it took me my first couple years of playing league to break out of being highly risk averse. It was so bad I would let so many free things go because I was afraid to die and snowball somebody. That stuck with me for longer than I'm proud to admit but as I learned the hard way in life and in game being passive ends badly for you more times than not. Now I don't care about my KDA if I end up dying making a play but if it put my team in an advantageous position I'm 100% okay with that, sometimes I know beyond a shadow of a doubt I wont make it out but I know it's the right call. KDA doesn't mean anything if you are losing games. Everyone is saying he threw his money away. granted since he wouldn't listen he didn't learn as much as he could have but being chided for not listening and being scared by a high level player is worth a lot in and of itself. Hopefully my man will improve and break out of that fear of dying mindset. I think this game is a good example of why he needs to break it.

I have never seen anyone ignore so much easy to follow advice. Why pay hundreds of dollars to have Neace in your ear and then ignore him?

it's ironic because if he was more confident and didn't always walk away he wouldn't have been hit by the worst part of Darius Q so often.

Being coachable is a skill. Consider having clients Google how to be coachable before sessions. (I used to provide software training)

I feel this guy. He’s trying so hard not to die and feed darius and i can tell he’s experienced that an infinite amount of times probably

Man I can't help but feel a little bad for the student. I've had coaching before and I couldn't tell you why but you play so different when someone is watching and judging every single click that you're doing. You doubt yourself, you choke and you're trying to listen to what the coach wants you to do while still playing the game.

One second though at the end NEACE says “if we dodge his W we go in and fight”… the student clearly is waiting for the W, like thinking bait it then go in. I understand on the spur of the moment neace changes his mind and says go in - and the student should have but he is obviously still thinking “wait to dodge the W” and isn’t so instant on his comprehension. I think the end dressing down didn’t acknowledge that but I also understand it was cherry on top moment - a whole game of not following simple instructions

I hope this guy learns well from this because the "I don't know" from 30:10 leans me to believe that he is oblivious of everything that he was doing.

Honestly i’m suprised he didn’t just lose it after the Kayne gank and homie just spun away this i swear i feel the pain when i try to tell my friends kda doesn’t matter wins do and no one listens

you would be surprised how many team mates i get that too afraid to commit to a play

this guy had to get coached through spectator mode LMAO

Your being about as clear as mud for him

Literally gives the man the answer sheet and he still fails the test. Painful.

old neace would of just screamed his lungs of on this one. WHY AM I HERE. COMIT COMITTTTT GO INNNNNN. EEEEEEEEEEE. now hes just laughing it off hahahaha.

Getting coached by a challenger tryndamere but still can't get those words through his head

It's kinda sad tbh. That kayn gank where Darius was 1 hp near the beginning. I legit slouched so ducking hard in my chair in absolute cringe. Like legit wtf happened. Even for silver it's kinda hard to believe that someone could make a decision like that. I hope this guy can at least escape silver but from what I've seen.... yeah idk.

Neace looks very grimm here with his face looking so gaunt here

Fr the gank where he runs away after having darius at 300 hp is hilarious plus the added benefit of not playing aggresive on a freaking immortal champion whose whole point is doing dps like a mad dog holly shit, I also was a Trynda main for some time and this shit is simply frustrating.

I've noticed a huge passive mentality across the whole game. Those that aren't scared to be in a fight tend to win. Can't half measure a lane phase and think you are gate keeping. It's stop gap batman strategy. Works fantasy but not real life scenarios.

Damn I’m early as shit for this rage session

this dude has magical hands dude, not even the replay system is working when hes touching it 😂

that darius is god awful. He could have killed tryn so easily after hitting level 2. instead he runs away from level 1 tryn for no reason and then ends up dieing right after he could have gotten a kill. this has got to be bronze elo. god bless

tbh if was making these mistakes and my coach was reaming me for it, my ego would fold and I'd accidentally have no confidence the rest of the game.

I think i need to send NEACE a stress ball lmao..wu-sah lmao

"Press P" Proceeds to click Pause xD im weak

This guy was clearly playing to not die. Instead of playing to win. KDA means literally nothing. You can be 10-400 and still win a game, so long as you're taking the important wins on the map.

This is 100% the best way to coach someone when you want them to quit playing the game, way to kick someone when they're down, hope this clown never has kids and if he already does then i'm so sorry for them

Trynd had 2nd most gold gained and was still afraid to fight. Was he thinking to stare them to death and win.

Fight or lose, running away doesn't help because you will lose anyway .

I hate when your clients don't realize that you don't care about whether they win or lose the current match they're in and you just want them to break bad habits and make good ones. Like you might lose when you are trying new concepts for the first time and are overthinking shit instead of just confidently doing shit but you have to start practicing doing the right things at some point

I don't even play league, but if my teammate runs from a 2v1 I'm alt+f4'ing no matter what the game is.

A lot of students, myself included, tend to think of League as a twitch-play game and not a chess or strategy game. There are times where I am tired and should just log off, but I sit in lane thinking only of where to trade autos, where to position or move, etc, without a thought given to summs, bone plating, etc. When I'm feeling sharp and alert, I think of all the stuff I know, but everyone has a tired-state, a nervous state, a titled state, etc. For some, it's rage, for some it's apathy, for some it's autopilot.

I hope that he's gotten better since then. Splitpushing has become an even MORE reliable strategy, meaning that the tips for drawing pressure are even better and more relevant. I wondered why he had so much fear, like you outlined later in the video; maybe he felt like it was too far gone?

With those items, he should be spamming E, but he's doing like 4-5 autos extra before the next E.

If i am paying 300$ for a coaching session i am pissing my pants that i am not wasting my time and i would just be under pressure trying to not fuck up. Clients should be forced to do breathing exercise before starting the session.

"Press P", the dude then clicks pause. lmao

I know it’s difficult to play while being coached but man, he is completely lacking in confidence. That Kayn gank is a textbook example of how to ensure your jungle stays away from your lane forever. That was physically painful to watch.

if my top laner did that sht to me when i gank him like that, i would not gank him again and waste my time

God it's so hard to pity that guy. Most players are mechanically good enough to be so much higher elo than they are and fail so miserably because of a lack of conviction to make decisions to win the game. Can't imagine how hard this one mentally was for Neace, especially this guy being on Tryndamere

Wait so nerfing all of the toplane items simultaneously except for Hullbreaker was a bad idea? Nerfing their only way to impact the early game in teleport? And now the solution is to nerf Hull? Top lane is already the least impactful role in the game. Is Hull strong right now? Yeah. But only because everything got destroyed. Think about old stridebreaker and goredrinker... they are a 3rd of their original usefulness. I'll agree with Neace that there needs to be more items like Hull that serve different purposes.

Hi Neace! Could you please show the elo at the beginning? or please put it in the desctiption? I feel like its an important thing to know! Cheers

When in replays you can also double click the avatars on each side of the screen to lock the camera to them, it's easier to explain.

"I don't know why I do that .." Because you, like most people in low elos, SCARE EASILY. So many fights get thrown that were winnable over shit like that. It's why people keep calling me out for being a smurf.

I cant imagine someone paying money to be verbally abused by this creature.

This guy being scared is exaxtly what learning a wrong lesson from something is. He threw games, ok. He should review these mistakes and analyse what was wrong. Not just stop playing the game. Best advice i can give to someone who wants to learn is always the same: define a goal and stick to it for 50 games and ignore the results. And build a home brick after brick. Do it to learn to play agressively, guard minions, even solo carry games even though you throw them sometimes. You wont learn anything by not trying.

I know this is old but I think the point is the guy paid to be coached and felt some nerves/pressure. You should never belittle/make a student feel embarrassed in any form of teaching in life. Could tell he was trying and had the right attitude, probably quit playing after this session which is a shame, he just wanted to learn. Lessons to be had in this video in many ways, especially for Neace if he ever comes back to coaching.

04:00 i would report this Tryndamere if I were the Kayn

This guy just made me queue up Tryndamere. I'm a lowly silver, and it hurt me how much he played this Chad champ so passively

After Critting Darius twice and spinning away I knew this was gonna be a banger

everyone should be grateful and take his lessons seriously. I don't think I can afford to pay for lesson lol

A lot of low elo players tend to play in that "play safe" mindset. Never all-in, never anything risky, etc. It is like they play for KD. (Coming from a High Iron player)

imagine paying 300$ to not listen and get bullied for it. convinced 1/2 of these clients have a degradation fetish

"Kill him." *spins away* "Run away." *flashes forward*

"You suck. That'll be $350, please."

I died laughing at the glitchy replay section lmao

that guy buns and he said he makes that play he dipped from the fuq LMAO

I can't comprehend how bad so many of the people are anywhere sub gold elo. Like literally no brains. The only excuse is if it's your first time playing, but if you can't get out of silver even as a new player, this game just isn't for you

Darius wants people to try and have distance, you can counter his Q by simply walking towards him

I’m going to buy a coaching someday and I’ll be ready to follow every order to the call and I’ll still lose most likely lol

I think Neace being there made him very anxious and that lead to him making those tilting plays

I'm crying. 4:07. What?!!

That second kill literally made me tilt af....

I will never understand why Neace gets so mad when people who come to him for coaching turn out to be bad. Not sure what he expects but damn he shouldn't be coaching anything if he's going to throw tantrums when bad players turn out to be bad.

bro pays a fortune for a coaching session to not listen to a single word lol

i understand neace, notting worst then seeing someone play your champ wrongly

Holy shit, people are really taking this game serious, glad my gameplay isnt public😬😂

His issue is he’s a Pittsburgh fan 😂 ggs man keep grinding and take risks.

I watched the early game and I don't even play tryndamere and I was yelling to myself "Spin?!"

25:48 I love how he tried to overlook this dude ignoring what he said again and was like "Know what, fuck you I'ma flame yo ass"

i can relate so well, he plays out of muscle memory only like shutting down his brain. it's just hard to pay attention to games like these over a long period of time so my brain got used to just letting my hands take the wheel after a time. everyone having similar problems like fighting and dying and playing the replay thinkin what the f was i doing like i can tell i wouldve lost etc. just try talking to yourself while playing now i do this now this now im thinking this etc. stripped the nonsensical aggression and inting from my games really made a big difference i haven't lost lane since (i mean i peak silver so you know but still)

Like someone said in the comments, if I were kayn I would just afk after 4:08

Watching neace flip is like truly entertainment lol

I don't think he understands that Darius q does reduced damage and healing in the inside