LEAK: Epcot's Empty Expansion: Disney Already Needs to Salvage the New Land

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LEAK: Epcot's Empty Expansion: Disney Already Needs to Salvage the New Land
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@thebluetarp
@thebluetarp 25 күн бұрын
this what happens when you don’t give a shit about nostalgia. disney is partly dead inside. it’s showing in everything they do lately from movies to politics to the theme parks. think real deeply for a minute what they actually did. they literally imploded one of the greatest most loved attractions in the history of the f**king world and replaced it with a theme that most people don’t even know and a character that’s really not very known. and we all know why…
@Zanair
@Zanair 25 күн бұрын
Honestly, I really miss how the old Epcot was. Just like Jonas said, it was filled with the promise of “optimism of progress and tomorrow”. No solid Disney IP or characters outside of a few character meet-and-greets, but lots of fun places to actually learn something. Living Seas was better, IMO, as a sealab without Nemo and friends, the interactive exhibits were great. Horizons was an awesome look into the future. Norway was better with Maelstrom, I don’t believe Frozen is a good representation of the country. The Communicore buildings, specifically West (now demolished) always had some neat rotating exhibits and the Wonders of Life pavilion is sorely missed. But what do I know… I guess I’m just old.
@Zanair
@Zanair 25 күн бұрын
Oh and I totally forgot about Journey into Imagination… ‘Nuff said right?
@kkraut
@kkraut 25 күн бұрын
Ya boomer, get bored with us youngins and love it
@eclipsehorse8693
@eclipsehorse8693 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, this is what set EPCOT apartf rom the rest of the parks- edutainment, you were entertained, but you ere also educated and each attraction tried to tell a story and relay a positve message about the world around us
@eclipsehorse8693
@eclipsehorse8693 24 күн бұрын
@@jonathanl9663 agreed! I loved World of Motion when it WAS WOM... then it became Test Track, which was cool- more edutainment and aesoem theming- then Test Track vers 2. or 'Tron Track'... big big disappointment
@samuelwitwicky3900
@samuelwitwicky3900 25 күн бұрын
Blows me away that Disney has not saved up some money to add new countries in World Showcase. It ‘s been decades since a new country has been introduced in EPCOT.
@michaelschroeck2254
@michaelschroeck2254 25 күн бұрын
Disney has lost the theme park zeitgeist .
@outatime8560
@outatime8560 24 күн бұрын
Getting rid of the fountain of nations is probably the worst thing they’ve done in Epcot and adding in a Moana walk through that doesn’t fit in the park is a ridiculous waste of money. They should have just added a ride in one of the other world showcase pavilion’s instead. The addition of Ratatouille and the upcoming Test Track refurbishment are positive changes though.
@masseyamanda
@masseyamanda 25 күн бұрын
The whole renaming of different sections of Future World is just confusing. World Celebration looks like a bland and boring outdoor mall. I like Connections and Creations, I like the new trees, and I even like the new music (while I still miss the old). But, I'll never forgive them for removing the Fountain of Nations. It was an icon, and just awe-inspiring to see and experience. I feel that if they did their general updates, while also keeping the fountain, they would have had a much better result, and much better feedback from guests.
@sorbabaric1
@sorbabaric1 25 күн бұрын
And then question why they removed the Fountain of Nations . . . Because they don’t believe in Nations, and want to demolish them, and don’t want national sovereignty to exist. Open borders, globalism, and all that.
@IzzosPlace
@IzzosPlace 25 күн бұрын
It’s so poorly executed I didn’t even remember a Walt statue was there till after luminous when I was leaving the park. Moana was a one and done. And they really needed to update imagination and reopen wonders of life before any of this other nonsense. But that’s okay. My Epcot has been dead since 99.
@eclipsehorse8693
@eclipsehorse8693 25 күн бұрын
lets nbe happy they never built that huge multi tiered planned festival center planter/ thing behind Spaceship Earth...this is EPCOT, not the jetsons!!
@IzzosPlace
@IzzosPlace 25 күн бұрын
@@eclipsehorse8693 true!
@martinbalasco9307
@martinbalasco9307 25 күн бұрын
I haven’t been since 21 so I haven’t seen it personally though my family may go in August. It all looks very underwhelming but I’ve been saying the same thing for years. “CLEAN THE FIGMENT RIDE, THAT THING IS GRODY!!!”
@nicholasmenditto404
@nicholasmenditto404 25 күн бұрын
I was there in January... Epcot looked like trash.
@guidedmeditation2396
@guidedmeditation2396 25 күн бұрын
I was at EPCOT yesterday and there are still tall wall around the communicore building.
@Ingram091
@Ingram091 24 күн бұрын
When EPCOT opened it was meant to be the showcase for adults to enjoy, a worlds fair that stayed open. Not what Walt wanted because after Walt died so to did the futurism of his vision for the community of tomorrow. My grandfather went there in I believe it was 1984, and he was ecstatic to see engineering innovations, technology that we today take for granted being talked about and demonstrated, and the world showcase aspect for someone that only traveled about during wartime. He loved it. It wasn’t made for children, it was the place adults could enjoy. Today, well all the meat of what used to be in the park is replaced with cheap junk that only holds wallet draining remorse within its walls. Nothing optimistic or innovative, just a cheap carnival ready and willing to drain your life saving for more of the same old junk you see everywhere.
@loogoo
@loogoo 24 күн бұрын
I have memories of the NY World's Fair (1964-65) when I was really little. When it opened, EPCOT reminded me so much of that feeling of learning about new technologies, different cultures, etc. that the world's fair offered. Shame that it all got mucked up with IPs and confused theming.
@Forthygreaterglory
@Forthygreaterglory 25 күн бұрын
We went to Epcot in March of 2023. It was the first time and my family had only ever been to Disneyland and California Adventure. We were very confused as to what Epcot was. We were told it was a place where you had lots of different countries in a big loop. It was that but it honestly felt like a place to sample food and buy drinks. It didn’t seem like it was for shopping or going on rides. So, because we weren’t interested in that we ended up ditching the park midday. We did ride the rides that were there but they too didn’t fit the theme. It’s a weird park.
@Zanair
@Zanair 25 күн бұрын
If you know the history, Epcot was originally designed to be a futuristic city designed by Walt himself. The Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow (E.P.C.O.T.). The concept was scrapped after Walt died and it was decided to build it instead as a kind of perpetual “World’s Fair”, where they would have constant exhibits showcasing new technologies and visions for the future. It was meant to be a permanent place for inspiration into future innovations. So many local schools were sent there for field trips. While I went to school in the area I think I visited Epcot almost a dozen times. It was mostly known as an “Edutainment” center, educational entertainment.
@darien5712
@darien5712 24 күн бұрын
You can't blame Epcot for how it has become. You can only know what the true Epcot is 2019 backwards.
@mise7372
@mise7372 25 күн бұрын
havent been thru Journey of Water the last 2 trips, maybe next week. terrible idea to get rid of Fountains of Nations. i
@roverboy006
@roverboy006 24 күн бұрын
I have been there. It is better than the walls that I had grown accustom to, and I can walk more quickly between the different ends of the park, while ignoring the sitting area there now. Quite the 'upgrade'.
@juliezimmerman3476
@juliezimmerman3476 23 күн бұрын
I was in Epcot in January, and was underwhelmed by world celebration. I am hoping when communicore Hall,opens and there are festivals it will at least better the feel of it.
@dhfsnow
@dhfsnow 25 күн бұрын
The new center of Epcot has NO kinetic energy. It is very disappointing. The new lighting in the ground is not working. Many of the light sticks in the gardens is not working.
@eclipsehorse8693
@eclipsehorse8693 25 күн бұрын
is the 'pooping Walt' statue still poorly lit?
@porcelainthunder2213
@porcelainthunder2213 25 күн бұрын
In other words, they ruined EPCOT. Why didn’t they just use the communicore building for festivals? They could have done so much INSIDE that space, great place for when it rains, which is often on FL.
@bjo007
@bjo007 23 күн бұрын
I have been very underwhelmed by the changes and agree that they should have left the fountain. I used to like the old Epcot Poll show they had in the old Communicore building (I think where the big gift shop is now).
@chrishood2144
@chrishood2144 24 күн бұрын
My personal favorite was the Bill Nie the science guy. It's biggest draw was making learning fun instead of that dreaded books and paper often found in schools.
@onehorseopensleigh
@onehorseopensleigh 25 күн бұрын
Maybe they think World Celebration is superior after they destroyed Innoventions/Communicore Plaza with a bad paint job and too many whirligigs
@laurah5045
@laurah5045 25 күн бұрын
I have been to the new Epcot a dozen times this year. . . Although not since end of April. The new Epcot section is a shame. While there are some beautiful sections, it seems like such a waste of space and they have put in these work areas with computer plugs, and power ports that have no shade in Florida. While I love to sit and look at the beauty of Epcot, I would certainly never do it in the sun. I actually enjoy the Moana feature as it has an old-school Epcot field however, more than half the time I walk through there are sections that are not working.
@TheDavidMancini
@TheDavidMancini 25 күн бұрын
I think they could fix it by adding a carousel with the Tower of the Four Winds on the top.
@trooperdonnie
@trooperdonnie 25 күн бұрын
As long as they keep it clean and kick out the unruly drunks, I'll be happy.
@eclipsehorse8693
@eclipsehorse8693 25 күн бұрын
yeah. ALL the parks, not just EPCOT- MK, AK and HS do not need to be boozefests
@colorin81colorado
@colorin81colorado 25 күн бұрын
I have never been to any of the parks... Ever, but if I could I think Japan Disney would be my choice!
@randolphwilliams2365
@randolphwilliams2365 25 күн бұрын
Disney is a bit clueless these days.
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 24 күн бұрын
They could have created a cool steampunk movie with Dreamfinder/Figment (before they screwed it up). Epcot was magical when I went with my fiancée (now wife) back in the Christmas of 1986. They already started the destruction of Disneyworld when I returned with my kids in the early 2000s (never got to see the original Journey ride). We are a Universal family and haven't been back to Disneyworld since the 2000s.
@dlfendel2844
@dlfendel2844 25 күн бұрын
Vash is kinda TALL for Figment. :) And Jonas, you need those SPATS Dreamfinder wore on that camera crane at the finale of the ride! :)
@WaterBug46
@WaterBug46 25 күн бұрын
I’m a local and a fan of old school Epcot. Back when it was a fun and educational place it was my favorite park. Field trip memories for sure. Now meh. I still keep my pass and I’ve yet to do anything Disney this year, but I’m in the other parks about once a week. That says a lot about my opinion of Disney as we were exclusively Disney until a few years ago.
@therailbird8220
@therailbird8220 24 күн бұрын
This video was all over the place and hard to follow. Kinda seems like you got a document that didn’t really say much.
@cyborgasylum7353
@cyborgasylum7353 25 күн бұрын
Epcot’s theme / identity is a permanent world fair
@eclipsehorse8693
@eclipsehorse8693 25 күн бұрын
sadly now it's become a flea market-
@cyborgasylum7353
@cyborgasylum7353 25 күн бұрын
They need to fix Journey into Imagination
@jerseyforhawks
@jerseyforhawks 25 күн бұрын
That planter?
@m.hreels9822
@m.hreels9822 25 күн бұрын
Every time I see your profile pic Jonas j Campbell I just see Ewan McGregor 😂 is that actually you or is that a picture of him 🤔
@katef96
@katef96 25 күн бұрын
You have World Showcase and then you have…the other half
@oakforestboys
@oakforestboys 25 күн бұрын
I thought it was mid at best
@tbgtabias
@tbgtabias 24 күн бұрын
i wonder how old jonas is. he sounds young , like young 30s
@storyandcommunity
@storyandcommunity 23 күн бұрын
World celebration is the worst. It's boring and a massive waste of space
@carolyneverett762
@carolyneverett762 25 күн бұрын
Wait until Epic Universe opens! Disney will be a ghost town👻
@TerryKitts
@TerryKitts 25 күн бұрын
Rick, I thought this was EPCOT. Where's the futuristic city? Where's the robots? Where's the flying cars? This is the Earth 453's EPCOT, Morty. Walt Disney died before it was built. His scumbag brother Roy didn't want the responsibility of running a city, so he turned it into an amusement park. Is that why this world is so primitive, Rick? Yeah, Morty. But look on the bright side. This place is great. It has more alcoholic drinks than any other park. Uncle Rick is going to get hammered now, Morty, so carry me back to the resort when I'm through drinking.
@massacmongo995
@massacmongo995 24 күн бұрын
Suggestion to Disney .Put all the Parks back like they were and build a new Area ,.... call it DEI Land
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