a trick : watch series on flixzone. Been using them for watching lots of of movies these days.

@Jayceon Julien Yup, I have been using Flixzone for years myself :D

Is there like an even more basic way of learning because I found this very confusing? He could have spoken Japanese and I would have understood just as much.

The shooting vs. taking a bearing, the way you explained the terms, is helpful.

Open to that idea, but uncertain how to cover this subject fully if it were broken up. Declination and orienting the compass is taught elsewhere; those seemed like they could be standalone lessons. But how would you break this up? Finding and transferring bearings go hand-in-hand.

I believe either way would work, I had seen the others also , this way is more like using a protractor

@@robertboyd3863 Thanks, Robert :-)

overload889 These two videos represent the extent of map and compass operation. there are a few other things you can do with it, eg triangulate your location, measure distances with the ruler, but these videos are the core.

Bob a variety of places sell them. Check out caltopo.com for customizable maps. Mostly free to print. The host also has a detailed post on printing maps andrewskurka.com/printing-exporting-topographical-maps-from-digital-sources/

He was transferring a bearing onto the map, so the magnetic needle didn't really matter in that specific situation, only the meridian lines and the bearing itself. But yeah generally rocks and compasses equal bad news

Kenny, it would matter at all if he put the map on a rock or a metal table, as when you use the compass on the map you ignore the magnetic needle.

I don't think it matters cause he is not using the needle

rust is not magnetic and steel is not found in nature.

Scott Drumm I wanna help you but I'm not sure I understand your question. Let me try. Basically all topographic map and GPS receiver use the true north. There's magnetic declination indication on almost every topographic map so people who use a magnetic compass can use this map. The magnetic declination is usually small sometimes you can ignore it for a coarse point positioning. Use any measurement with the magnetic compass and correct it with the magnetic declination to transfer your measurement to the map. If you use the GPS receiver, the bearing is the true north, just use it, you don't need the compass anymore. The magnetic declination only matters if you intend to use only compass for Precision navigation (in case you want to turn off the GPS to conserve the battery). btw, some newer GPS receiver can use a sattelite image or a topographic map as the background map, use this feature for easier navigation, first is capture the image (scan the map or screen capture it from Google Earth or Bing Map), adjust its position using the supplied software from the GPS manufacturer, when you done, save that image into its memory card, now you can navigate and view your trails with a background map.

Suunto M3-G, andrewskurka.com/2016/long-term-review-suunto-m-3g-global-compass-adjustable-ultralight/

The map has no declination. Straight up on the map is north; right is east, etc. Declination only needs to be accounted for when finding or transferring bearings in the field. I do this correctly in the video, but may not have explained it fully because it was covered in the first video. My compass was already adjusted, so it was simply a matter of "red in the shed." With a non adjustable compass, I would have needed to keep the needle 9 degrees to the east/right of North on the bezel (in CO).

@@skurkaandrew So correct me if i am wrong, (i have been know to be wrong) if your compass does not have an adjustable declination you are supposed to ADD the declination to your bearing if you are taking a magnetic bearing to map and you SUBTRACT the declination if you are taking a bearing from map to magnetic bearing . It has been a long time but i believe that is how we did it in the Military.

@@skurkaandrew OK, but you clearly said you were in CO, with an 8 degree declination. Once you spin your outer bezel, just "putting the red in the shed" doesn't account for declination. If someone in Washington followed this video, they'd end up miles off their targets.

Yes it does because his compass is already adjusted for it. It’s dialed into the back side of the compass to bias 8 degrees

Thanks. Refer to Part 1 of the series for his explanation of declination, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hL2RhcKZvNfRZHk.html.

yup, part one covers declination well.

@@SierraDesignsGear So I watched part one, good explanation of declination and orientation, but then you never mention it going from compass to map or map to compass. If you shoot an azimuth, that's magnetic, but the map is True, so why don't you subtract the declination? Also, why not add it when going from map to compass? With a 10 degree declination, after walking 10 miles, you'll be almost 2 miles off course! Why did you not account for declination?

Only need to take declination into account if you are using a heading off of a map in the field

No difference, as far as finding or transferring bearings. But you will need to adjust differently for declination. It's 6 degrees west, not 9 degrees east like it is in Colorado (the in the videos). So your needle pulls to the left/west of True North, not to the right/east like it does in CO.

I think you were using landmarks to figure out where you were and then setting your bearing with that info. In south florida there are few landmarks. The best you can hope for, I think, is "which way is up" :)

okay, got what you mean, esp since I grew up in the East. With no visibility, you mostly find bearings on the map (from a known point) and transfer them to the field. Little opportunity to find a bearing in the field (besides to a tree, which will not be on the map) and transfer to a map.

Stand up on the seat of your boat. Look around as far as you can see. Sit back down and think.

@@stevek8829 Paying mind to the direction of the sun or doing the sun/stick in the ground move first might be more helpful with no glaring landmarks. Then transferring that information to watch/compass use. If you're hella lost anyway and generally know if you head east you will hit land or an established road of some sort.

Trackhoe075: You don't need to orientate the map to transfer bearings to / from compass (as long as you realise that the top of the map is North).

Sorry spy, in real world of basic land nav. the two names are interchangeable, the use of Azimuth is usually used by the military. So I would suggest there is no confusion just Symantec! However, get into the world of Astro nav. then I would probably agree. Regards

Hello, I did further research and found I was wrong. Sorry for being a dope. I will retract what i said and say you made a fine video.