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Learn Sharpening - Prerequisite Course #07

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Sharpening tools is an essential part of woodworking. If you can't sharpen you can't woodwork (for long). Here we talk very generally about sharpening for those new to the craft and demonstrate some key techniques for sharpening commonly used tools at a workbench.
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@carlinglis7705
@carlinglis7705 4 жыл бұрын
From any other youtuber, a 46 minute video on sharpening would have me not even loading it. This one, I rearranged my evening a little to make sure I had time to watch and appreciate. Thank you Shawn, for excellent content as always.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@prsearls
@prsearls 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and content, Shawn. I've been a hobbyist woodworker since I was a kid (I'm 78 now). For most of that time, I've not appreciated how important sharpening is. I'm a bit smarter (sharper?) now. I completely agree with your recommendations and have some of those items you used. I found the information on handsaws very interesting. I have three handsaws from my Dad, likely purchased in the 1950's. One of my grandfathers was a carpenter; I was impressed with his 9 and 2/3rds fingers. I still have all of mine (so far). This is an excellent series and I'm learning new things. Thanks!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ovefinding9662
@ovefinding9662 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen many of your videos, every time I see one of them I become not only a better carpenter but also a wise carpenter thank you.
@danielcarroll989
@danielcarroll989 4 жыл бұрын
Love that Roman mirror side note.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@aisotton
@aisotton 3 жыл бұрын
"The inside of the cow, the outside of the cow" you're killing me man 😂
@soberlivingwithbrianfrankl8254
@soberlivingwithbrianfrankl8254 4 жыл бұрын
I've been woodworking for about a year and a half and I still very much enjoy these videos
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@specialk8168
@specialk8168 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those Texas thunderstorms! Thank you so, so much for all the quality content. I will be putting it to good use.
@jeffrollins9214
@jeffrollins9214 4 жыл бұрын
Am looking forward to a sharpening video on lathe tools. I am new to turning and the sharpening systems seem crazy expensive and varied. Your advice will be welcome as you are able to explain things thoroughly but easily. Thanks again for another great video.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
future series
@AZFederalist
@AZFederalist 3 жыл бұрын
I've been doing fine woodworking for 25 years and have pretty much progressed through all of the methods you described and agree with your conclusions. My current methodology is the Norton stones and Veritas jig. Not the only answer, just my answer. I picked up the M-Power Fasttrack Precision Sharpening System and De-Burring Plate from Woodpeckers a couple years ago. It is faster than the, but I'm not impressed with the results, you really don't get a shiny edge. I've definitely got to get a real strop. My current strop is an old belt hot-glued to a flat board. Thanks for that reminder. You've got a great presentation style
@AZFederalist
@AZFederalist 3 жыл бұрын
That should have said, "the Fasttrack system is faster than the stones, ..." Not sure what happened there.
@markdaigle9856
@markdaigle9856 18 күн бұрын
Your a good Teacher Shawn :o) Thank you.
@Ktsusna37
@Ktsusna37 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered 2 new whetstones yesterday. You have great timing. Your videos are excellent and I’m excited every time I see you post a new one.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@wartlme
@wartlme 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wortheffort. Very informative and presented in a way to give you perspective.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ralphrohr
@ralphrohr 4 жыл бұрын
Like many said before: you are a hell of a good teacher!!! Thank you!!!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@curtisolson605
@curtisolson605 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video!
@goldeneggduck
@goldeneggduck 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@c.james.cornwalll3060
@c.james.cornwalll3060 4 жыл бұрын
The thought of having to sharpen my tools literally terrified me! I've since sharpened my no4 iron, 2 chisels and a tenon saw. They all cut better than before, especially the chisels and plane iron as I have the cheap Eclipse type guide. The saw took me days before I got the courage up lol but once I started it was done in 10 minutes! The file dropped into the right angle and away I went. This video has simplified things so I'm going to do some more sharpening tomorrow. Thanks 👍
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
keep at it.
@jasongoodrich9055
@jasongoodrich9055 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Shawn. I have watched about all of your videos, so have seen most of this information from you before. But repetition is an important part of learning. I did miss your work at the whiteboard. Some of the points you were making verbally you have stated before much clearer with a couple simple drawings. Keep up the good work.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Sinrise
@Sinrise 4 жыл бұрын
Super informative! I hope you do a video on sharpening turning tools, especially bowl gouge! Thanks
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
When we do a turning series.
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 3 жыл бұрын
THE BEST wet stone (they are splash and go, which is even better) are Suhiro Dabato MD series. they are large, fitting easily the biggest plane irons, and they are very affordable for what you get. They are also top notch and have the best feedback of ANYTHING I have ever used. (diamonds, oilstone, other wetstones) buy a Suhiro Dabato, you will NOT regret it.
@iakkatz128
@iakkatz128 4 жыл бұрын
For those who don't I say thank you. You always teach us, inspire us to create and always share.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@misteranonym4067
@misteranonym4067 4 жыл бұрын
Watched the video although I knew all of that. Just because you're a nice man. I hope you get along well through this crazy time.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@JasonPeltier
@JasonPeltier 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent timing! I'm about to purchase a "medium" level chisel set and a few card scrapers. Thanks!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
get those accessories
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan 4 жыл бұрын
The patter of the rain gives it a bit of atmosphere 😎 - and let’s face it, you voice WOULD BE AUDIBLE OVER A HURRICANE!!!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
abrasive it is....
@Christopher_Giustolisi
@Christopher_Giustolisi 7 ай бұрын
I started out with sand paper but yeah, it gets expensive. Buying a stone is a good first step, or at least it was. You bought a wetstone with two sides, I bought 3 with different grits. I got myself The sund Tiger King stones in 220, 1000 and 6000 grit. They worked great and still do but I don´t use them in the workshop anymore because you have to soak them or store them in water and they make a hell of a mess. I use them for kitchen knives because in the kitchen I have a sink nearby, so it´s not as big of a mess. But yes, they work great and I can get a razer sharp edge with them even without a strop with chrome oxide buffing compound. Another downside of wetstones is to keep them flat. When sharepening a kitchen knife, flatness really doesn´t matter. Even when the stone is one millimeter out of flat, I still get a good result. I my opinion flatness doesn´t even matter a lot when sharpening chisels but plane irons are another story. So I was back to sand paper and the piece of glass to flatten the stones now and then. I knew about diamond plates but damn, those were expensive when I started out. Because of the mess I switched to a 2-sided Norton oil stone. Even the fine side is pretty coarse but the stone is so hard, the achievable sharpness is acceptable. Only for some applications like carving I need an edge sharper than that. Later I bought finer oil stones up to 4000 grit. That´s enough even for carving tools, since I can still use a leather strop. A few drops of oil on the stones don´t make a mess and they stay reasonably flat for a long time. But still, diamond plates are the future. I bought 3 DMT plates as Paul Sellers recommends. I don´t want to go back. The diamond plates stay flat, they take off material really quick and so far I haven´t worn one out. I also bought a credit card sized one with 600 and 1200 grit to hone my turning tools but my favorite are the small and dirt cheap EZE sharp diamond sharpeners with the plastic handles. I use them on my skews, scrapers, turning gouges, knives and carving tools. I used them for over 2 years now and they´re still not worn out. I wouldn´t recommend sandpaper for sharpening to anyone starting out, since diamond plates are really cheap nowadays. I´ve bought a set of 6 diamond plates from 200 to 2000 grit for only 20€ on Amazon. They´re pretty thin but when used on a thick piece of reasonably flat plywood they´re good enough even for plane irons. I´ve been sharpening with those cheap diamond plates now for over half a year and so far they still work fine. I´m not only using them for sharpening but also for shaping parts made from all kinds of metals and also pieces of bone to make guitar saddles. They replaced sand paper and files for many applications. I think they´re well worth the little money they cost. I got lucky and learned from a carpenter how to sharpen. I learned to sharpen without any jigs and I´ve never bought one because I never saw the need. But It´s a learning curve, so for beginners without the help of an expert, a jig might get them started and they can focus on developing other skills because you can´t learn everything at the same time. The carpenter who taught me sharpens his scrapers a bit different. He removes the burr with a file as you do but then he removes the burr from the filing with a fine oil stone and gets those 90 degree corners really crisp before he makes a burr. He usede to do it with a screwdriver but he switched to tungsten carbide. Even the oldtimers appreciate that stuff.
@AlphaNerd132
@AlphaNerd132 4 жыл бұрын
I love the rain background my man. Doesn't come across best on the cam mic but I still like it. Great vid!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Using a Nikon shotgun on a dslr.
@polytopia
@polytopia 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos. I for one really appreciate them.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@brustringkult2468
@brustringkult2468 4 жыл бұрын
Learnd a lot...love it
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 3 жыл бұрын
the nagura stone is really for cleaning, you dont have to use them every time. when i need a pristine edge ill break it out, but mostly, i just go straight to the water stone itself.
@dpbjlee83
@dpbjlee83 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video - always worth my time - Thanks
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mattd390
@mattd390 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I was hoping you would make a video on this. Love your work! 👍
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@adrianhutu
@adrianhutu 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks , Sir , for the lesson
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Always welcome
@shawnsafaie665
@shawnsafaie665 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable teaching wow
@vote4pedro7
@vote4pedro7 4 жыл бұрын
Man I needed this. Thank you!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@jimcooney9019
@jimcooney9019 4 жыл бұрын
a very good video thank you for sharing it
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@FilippoBasso73
@FilippoBasso73 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, and they are very useful for newbies like me! one small thing, you repeat many times that "all sharpening is about getting 2 planes, going forever to infinity"... well, it's not to infinity, as you see, they meet quite soon :-) it's more about, having this radius of "dullness" very small..... so that can act properly (as an edge or a wedge :-) ) Thank you, fantastic serie! (and by the way, it's never about infinity even about the radius (atoms and so on...)... but this is quite a minor point)
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 3 жыл бұрын
Filippo Basso nope, if you could magnify to infinity they’d still be going in same direction with no change. That’s theoretical though.
@athmostafa2462
@athmostafa2462 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man that helps a lot 👍 .
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
No problem
@hramsay8756
@hramsay8756 3 жыл бұрын
Nagura Conditioning Stone used to flatten the waterstones.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 3 жыл бұрын
Not flatten but build slurry. Thanks for correct term.
@AlphaNerd132
@AlphaNerd132 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta fight for the scary sharp system. I like it. I started out young with my dads old India stones. With some old granite counter top material, I made some flat stones and used lapping paper. I sharpen my hand plane roughly once a project and my pocket knives once a month. SO my stone set gets used roughly 2-3 times a week. That lapping paper lasts me easily 2-3 months assuming you set it up properly. I also get a sick kick out of lending a friend my pocket knife, and it easily slicing through flesh like butter.
@davesloansnakehunter
@davesloansnakehunter 3 жыл бұрын
Have an old, over 100 years old, sharpening stone. It is shaped like a bone. It is a dull white. Do I use water or oil on it??
@jonesingblues4384
@jonesingblues4384 2 жыл бұрын
I found a whetstone kit at the orange big box store a little over $40.00. There are two combo stones 400/1000 and 3000/8000 along with other bobs and bits. They say it's for kitchen knife sharpening, but the size of the stones are 2.28 in x 1 in x 7 in. Will these be okay for sharpening chisels, plane blades, etc?🤨
@loucinci3922
@loucinci3922 4 жыл бұрын
Are we supposed to keep the Japanese stones in water all the time? Or just wet them down when using them? Nice overview. Presented well. Thank you
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard both ways so I assume it's what stone you're using. Even the Norton 8000 all you need to do is spritz it when use but all the other you have to soak for a while.
@tobeornott1684
@tobeornott1684 4 жыл бұрын
I just started Woodturning and don’t want to invest in a sharpening jig can you please make a video on hand sharpening and all the grind and what they do
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
I already have. Search 40/40
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, thanks, especially the bit about sharpening hand saws. I have just bought a few on Ebay and the teeth are all there, they are old and poorly maintained. I will need to remove service rust, do have preferred method for that. If the answer would be an essay then ofcourse I wouldn't steal your time. 😎
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
vinegar
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 4 жыл бұрын
@@wortheffort ta 🙂
@philmininni5981
@philmininni5981 4 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of stones collected from all over. My confusion is which one is a water stone or oil. In particular the majority of the stones I have have the consistency like the grinding wheel on my grinder. Would this be a water or oil stone? Great video and I am learning!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
afraid I can't help ya there. might ask your local woodworking club next time you go for a visit.
@ryancarlsen6479
@ryancarlsen6479 4 жыл бұрын
With regard to the travel-sized diamond stones that you recommended for beginners, can one sharpen a plane iron alright with those? Thanks, great video.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
I do
@AdamKirbyMusic
@AdamKirbyMusic 4 жыл бұрын
No joke, literally every tool I've tried to sharpen I think I've made worse
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Keep trying, sometimes theres a learning curve but it's a steep one.
@tacs_01
@tacs_01 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shawn. When you can no longer strop, but the edge is still intact, do you use all the diamond plates, or miss the coarser ones? If the latter, how do you know which one to start at, or is that just experience. Regards, Adam
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
If stroping takes too long I go back to the grinder to hollow out the middle then strop again. Don't let the grinder touch the heel or edge.
@marktankell8191
@marktankell8191 4 жыл бұрын
I have been woodworking for a couple of months, very novice. I am currently using sand paper but will be purchasing a diamond stone. What type of liquid should I use?
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
soapy water, I use simply green deluted. just break water tension.
@zacberes6647
@zacberes6647 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video specifically for sharpening lathe tools?
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
40/40
@th34lch3m1st
@th34lch3m1st 4 жыл бұрын
A 15$ combination water stone on Amazon, 400 and 1000 grit, that's all you need to start, and that's what I still use 4 years after. 30 seconds sharpening (12-16 strokes) and I can shave my arm hair all day long :D . A secret that no one will tell you: releasing the pressure on the stone, it will practically elevate the grit of your stone, and it will grind the burr without folding it further. Start with 3-4 strokes with medium pressure on the coarse side (400 grit in this case) to create a very tiny burr, then again on the same side of the stone (400 grit) do another 3-4 strokes but WITH VERY LIGHT PRESSURE. In this way you are virtually "changing the grit" of the stone. You are always on a 400 grit side, but very light strokes reduces the penetration of the abrasive in the steel, and you will thin that burr without folding it further. Then do the same on the 1000 grit side. 3-4 strokes with medium pressure, 3-4 strokes with very light pressure. If you have not applied too much pressure, you will end up with a bevel that will shave your arm hair, without a folded burr, without the need of "sharpen the back of the blade". My two cents. As always, thanks for sharing this.
@ryancarlsen6479
@ryancarlsen6479 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, how often do you have to flatten it? Is it messy to work with?
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Every time you need a flat edge.
@th34lch3m1st
@th34lch3m1st 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryancarlsen6479 Learning from my beginner mistakes, I can tell you that it depends on how large is the blade you are rubbing on the stone, how much time you spend on a face of the stone, and how much pressure you are applying. If you are sharpening plane blades, you don't apply too much pressure, and you don't spend more than 10-12 strokes on the same face of the stone, you can safely sharpen 3-4 plane blades and the stone is still quite flat. And obviously, you need to rub your blade on a different portion of the stone at every stroke. With chisels you lose planarity much more quickly. Narrow blades tend to leave more deep grooves and usually after 2 chisels you have to flatten it again. The wise thing to do is to flatten every face every time you turn the stone, before you start sharpening on that face. This way you need "less work" to make it flat again, and you avoid potentially irremediable mistakes, like for example, one edge of the stone more lower than the other. I use a 3$ shipped, Chinese diamond stone, 1/16" thick (400 grit or 1000 grit, but there are a wide choice of grits) from AliExpress, that is not at all rigid as DMT diamond stones, but is flat enough to get a flat surface on the stone (you can always glue it on something flat). I rub the diamond plate for about 10 second every time I turn the stone. It is messy? Just a bit of slurry on your fingers, nothing dramatic. At the beginning I was equipped with a tray with 1/2" border, a tiny plastic box to submerge the stone, to sprinkle some water while I'm sharpening, and to clean the diamond stone in between different grit face flattening (always try to not mix different grits slurry on different face of the stone). Lately I have built an ad-hoc plexiglass tray with borders and "water tank" fixed on a side, just to not have things wandering around. Last but not least, don't clean the slurry from your stone when you flatten it. Even if it is a 15$ corundum water stone that came from Amazon, the slurry is an important factor in the abrasive action of the stone, just like it happens with the natural Japanese water stones.
@th34lch3m1st
@th34lch3m1st 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryancarlsen6479 PS: I forgot to tell you an important part of the process. Never do forward strokes on water stones. First, you risk to damage your edge and dig into the stone, leaving a terrible hole on the surface that require minutes of sandpaper-on-marble to rectify it again. Second, the forward stroke increase and bend the burr after every stroke. After 10 forward strokes you will end with a big burr that will require 5 minutes of rubbing to remove it. Don't do it. Do a backward stroke starting from the far edge of the stone, lift the blade, start again from the far edge and so on. It's the fastest and error proof method to get your razor sharp edge. Note that here I'm talking about sharpening with an eclipse stile honing guide. If you want to do free hand sharpening, doing only backward strokes it's a tedious process. In that case I suggest you to use the method that is showed (by Paul Sellers) in this video on diamond stone: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5ypnrmrsZi6cYE.html . It works on water stone sharpening too. Just be careful, during the forward stroke, to lower your wrist while you are advancing, so that your bevel will be lifted from the stone at the end of your stroke, and not digging in to it. You will end up with a convex bevel using that free hand technique, but is fast and effective. Wortheffort has also showed this technique, I just don't recall now what was the video.
@d3hk4y81
@d3hk4y81 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Great tutorial. But, what did you spray onto your stones?
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
simply green
@dougberrett8094
@dougberrett8094 4 жыл бұрын
At first I thought you had forgot about hollow grind when you talked about two planes. I have never tried hollow grind on chisels, but use one always on a hand plane. Because I never sharpen the plane blade by hand, the hollow actually forms one side of the edge. No honing after either. But then I can feed the blade in increments under .001” so I get the edge very fine off the grinding stone. The reason you get different edges from stone and diamond grit is the way nature makes diamond behave. It frequently has nowhere near the sharpness of the stones. This is because of its internal fracture planes. Also some diamond grit fractures more easily than other diamond grit. Also, believe it or not, not all diamond is the same hardness. Some grit will actually wear flat on top, making it very difficult to cut with. It is difficult to determine what type of grit was used to make the diamond “stone”, so you don’t know what to expect. Grit supplied by De Beers is normally the best.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Hollow grinding has nothing to do with the rays. All it's doing is removing metal so you don't have to remove so much to achieve that infinite ray directions.
@dougberrett8094
@dougberrett8094 4 жыл бұрын
wortheffort not really. Hollow grinding can be used to form the cutting edge. However not likely if you are sharpening by hand. I watched a tool and die maker put an edge on a plane blade using a surface grinder. Not having a surface grinder I tried to duplicate the results with what I had at the time. A round grind stone in a drill press. I clamped the plane to the press table and used the feed mechanism of the plane to feed the blade into the stone. I ran the stone up and down against the blade, feeding a bit at a time. The result was a hollow grind on one side, the straight ( or flat ) side on the other. This worked well enough that my dad had me use this technique to resharpen all his professionally sharpened blades. You and I discussed this before some time ago. The main reason, I think, that this works so well is that it eliminates any possibility of one edge being rounded like you pointed out. Previous to using this method I would sharpen the plane blade using a soft Washita stone followed by a hard Arkansas stone and then the French strop ( grit impregnated leather). The edge could be used as a razor, but would not plane well at all. The culprit was the strop. It put the slight round on the blade. This lifted the razor edge off the wood. It was necessary to push hard enough to press this round below the surface of the wood. Of course the wood fibers would deform, making this difficult. With the hollow grind the edge is the only part of the blade to contact the wood and it cuts like a hot knife through butter. I no longer use the drill press. I still use the round stone but use my mill table to feed the blade and the mill quill to run the stone along the edge. You made a statement a few videos ago about not trusting your set ups on some of your new tools. As a machinist I do trust my set ups. Just a different way of going about things. By the way I enjoy you work. My wood working is not in the same league, but I do know a thing or two about cutting stuff.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Doug Berrett the term hollow grinding refers to hollowing out the middle of a bevel so less material needs to be removed on a stone or strop. If your taking it all the way to the edge on a grinder that’s just “grinding”. Also it’s real easy to temper the edge when you do that.
@rickcathysmith8449
@rickcathysmith8449 4 жыл бұрын
What do you use on the leather strop the white stuff?
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
rougue
@jimc9596
@jimc9596 3 жыл бұрын
That thunder was loud, the God of dull tools is not pleased.
@AZFederalist
@AZFederalist 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think it was anger when Shawn dulled that chisel by running it across a mill file.
@jeremyt1917
@jeremyt1917 4 жыл бұрын
The "correcting" stone you are looking for is a Nagura stone. You are correct that it starts with an N!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Ya, I knew that but wasn’t sure pronunciation. People get into me enough about W. TX accent and misspeaking so I kicked the can and played dumb.
@Dseated
@Dseated 4 жыл бұрын
I got my double sided diamond stone off of Amazon for around $25
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Prices are coming down.
@AdeNiblett
@AdeNiblett 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you mean by saying '2 lines going off to infinity'. Apart from that, I thought it was an excellent video.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@emanuelmifsud6754
@emanuelmifsud6754 4 жыл бұрын
This was one of the comments made which needed correcting. He is meaning two planes meeting to a point, implying they disappear, which is completely wrong, as the edge will still reflect light and can be seen . If you looked at it with a microscope ( at 10,000 magnification) the edge of even the finest blade, say a razor blade, would still have some roughness, and would still be visible to the naked eye. ( which you can see to a minimum one thousandth of an inch (look at the edge of feeler gauges., a human hair is 20 microns and you can see them) it all depends on how much you want to magnify the edge. Two lines going to something is called in perspective drawing a vanishing point. You can sharpen a plane blade on an electric bench grinder ( which is what they are made for, to sharpen tools, rust removal and buffing), I do it regularly without overheating the blade, honing the edge is done on an oilstone. You can sharpen drill bits, plane irons and chisels with an electric bench grinder and a double sided oilstone, everything else is unnecessary especially using sandpaper and emery paper. The diamond plate is a good idea but not necessary. I am a woodwork, metalwork, technical drawing, science and construction teacher for 25 years. Like other videos on KZfaq this video needed proof reading. Anyone can put up a video, but it needs to be accurate.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
I'll stand by what I said in this video. Especially the grinder.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Two rays that no matter how much you zoom in on them they will always come to an edge. It's a theoretical idea and physical impossibility but explains the point.
@jackmiller3628
@jackmiller3628 4 жыл бұрын
Can you sharpen a lathe chisel by hand?
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hone all the time. But a grinder from a pawn shop or garage sale is very cheap. Even new ones with good wheels are only but $99.
@jackmiller3628
@jackmiller3628 4 жыл бұрын
@@wortheffort Thanks.I just wanted to be sure it was possible. I've just started to work with a lathe and was trying to make a round mallet from scraps plywood. I also used some resin to fill minor gaps. In general it was a lot more difficult to turn than the pine i was practicing on. When I tried to sharpen the skew chisel by hand with sand paper, I thought I had gotten it pretty sharp but it didn't cut as nicely as I'd expected. I wasn't sure if it was the sharpening, the plywood, the resin or … so I just wanted to ask. I do have a grinder but don't use it to sharpen my tools. I mainly use it to get a general shape on an tool if I bugger it up. I usually use sandpaper/diamonds and strop for final polish. So I didn't want to try adding another variable into all of this.
@mathewanderson2400
@mathewanderson2400 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree that stones are the way to go. If you’re looking to get students into the craft, the hassle of having to flatten the stones is crucial to get a great edge - it adds a variable that’s unnecessary. I started with an $8 12x12 marble tile, a can of spray adhesive, and wet/dry sandpaper in 400, 800, 1600 and a small leather strop. I think for all the packs of sandpaper, tile, leather, adhesive, and jig was less than $50. Getting 4” strips each to make a 3 grit flat surface, I have TONs of supply. Remember too, people just starting out aren’t going to need to do it everyday and when they are ready, they can move to diamonds. Using the 3 stones, reflattening and putting liquid to a beginner creating a sharp edge (pond sharpening) is a lot of hassle and some extra risk of injury that may not be needed.
@ugaladh
@ugaladh 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. as a beginning woodworker, you can gradually develop your craft and gradually get better, except, good sharpening needs to be learned early. unless money isn't a problem and you can get Diamond stones right away, then I think the sandpaper/Scary sharp system is the easiest to learn. you just don't want to do like so many beginners and have some Arkansas stones, some water stones, a grinder, some sandpaper, maybe some ceramic stones - those are all different systems. find one and stick with it. and beginners often don't understand that for chisels and gouges, you generally aren't going to be using a grinder .
@oxcart19
@oxcart19 4 жыл бұрын
I"m only a little bit afraid to sharpen my tools, ha ha. But I'll stick with it.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
it gets easier
@jeremyt1917
@jeremyt1917 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, I miss Texas thunderstorms!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
kaboom
@IlanDavid
@IlanDavid 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to the woodworking school?
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 4 жыл бұрын
Well, since I'm working out of a storage unit I'm sure you can guess.
@IlanDavid
@IlanDavid 4 жыл бұрын
@@wortheffort Too bad. you're an excellent teacher.
@DragonGateDesign
@DragonGateDesign 4 жыл бұрын
it aint wood working if you aint got the horse butt....
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