Learning a 1000+ year old style of singing (ft. Archana)

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@everydaypatriot1083
@everydaypatriot1083 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who claims "appropriation" is sadly mistaken. To appreciate the art of other cultures is to honor it.
@ge5493
@ge5493 Жыл бұрын
preach
@emma-di5ly
@emma-di5ly Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Archana wouldn't have said to try it if she believed it to be appropriation.
@shrutivashishth541
@shrutivashishth541 Жыл бұрын
Carnatic is traditional Hindu music- performed in the glory of our Gods. Non hindus are not allowed to perform it. It’s not mere appropriation, it is outright abuse of our religious beliefs. Know better.
@keithhunt5328
@keithhunt5328 Жыл бұрын
Appropriation is when when white women shout racist slurs at Indian people and then wear swastika earrings and say Namaste to each other while doing yoga
@stuthijha2994
@stuthijha2994 Жыл бұрын
@@shrutivashishth541 where does it say that theyre not allowed to perform. you need to do your research before opening your mouth and actually touch grass cause thousands of non indians have immense talent in this filed
@0arjun077
@0arjun077 Жыл бұрын
Sadja : Sa : Cry of the peacock Rishabha : Re : Lowing of the bull Gaandhaara : Ga : Bleating of a goat Madhyama : Ma : Call of the heron Panchama : Pa : Call of the cuckoo Dhaivata : Dha : Neighing of the horse Nishaada : Ni : Trumpeting of the elephant Meanings : Sa is derived from Shadja which means 'giving birth to six'. Re is derived from Rishabha which means ‘Great One’ Ga is derived from Gandhar which means ‘sweet fragrance’ Ma derived from Madhyama which means ‘being in the middle’ Pa is derived from Panchama which means ‘the fifth note’ Dha is derived from Dhaivata which means ‘sixth note/divine’ Ni is derived from Nishad which means an ‘seventh note’ also ‘setting at rest’, ‘esoteric doctrine’, ‘secret doctrine’, ‘mysterious or mystical’ Singing the Swaras has a positive effect on the body, mind and the consciousness. The swaras also effect our feelings and emotions. The swaras are also associated with planets and colours ‘sa’ (shadjam) - Mercury - green ‘ri’ (rishabham) - Mars - red ‘ga’ (gandharam) - Sun - golden colour ‘ma’ (madhyam) - Moon - white or yellowish tint ‘pa’ (panchamam) - Saturn - blue or black dha’ (dhaivatam) - Jupiter - yellow ‘ni’ (nishadham) - Venus - multi colour Qualities of the Svara Shadja - Means 'father of the six svaras' and the one which gives birth to the other six svaras. Rishab - Being the nearest to the Grâmni svara (Sa) it is strong as Vrishab (Bull). Gandhâr ­ Is associated with karunâ (sadness, longing). Madyam ­ This svara is in the middle of the saptak. Pancham ­ Is made up of the words panch (five) and mi (to measure). Is that note that is fifth from the Shadaj and is the tool to measure the svara intervals. Dhaivat ­ Is the overtone of the madyam svara and is heard by the Dhivân (sensitive minds). Nishâd ­ Is so called because the notes of the scale come to a close with it. The word is derived from Sanskrit root “ni+shâd” to come to a rest. Nishâd is full of karunâ (longing)
@JustFiddler
@JustFiddler Жыл бұрын
matur suksma
@vasanthasrikantha6512
@vasanthasrikantha6512 Жыл бұрын
rishaba means bull
@averages64
@averages64 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@PLad-pr9cl
@PLad-pr9cl Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much🤗 ***🌼🏵🌸🌹🌹🌹🌸🏵🌼*** I've heard the word karuna, defined with a meaning close to love, fraternity (love for all and everything, infinite love): I'm wondering if it is the same word, and if I remember well?
@0arjun077
@0arjun077 Жыл бұрын
@@PLad-pr9cl yes its the same Sanskrit word but meaning is slightly different yet the same here, Karuṇā (Sanskrit: करुणा) is generally translated as compassion or mercy and sometimes as self-compassion or spiritual longing. It is a significant spiritual concept in the Indic religions of Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and Jainism.
@meerasomasundaram8564
@meerasomasundaram8564 Жыл бұрын
Being a south Indian who's been forced into carnatic singing just like every other child here. I immedialty had like a blast from the past without even realised i started singing along and went on the next 20 having a whole concert with myself
@avibcci1297
@avibcci1297 Жыл бұрын
I was smiling throughout the video, not from south but my parents too forced me to learn carnatic singing 😂 and I am glad that they did.
@martisbvk
@martisbvk Жыл бұрын
How the fuck is Karnatic music based on Sanskrit? Halegannada is fucking Sanskrit now.
@honestbrahm
@honestbrahm Жыл бұрын
The idea one builds in their head that they were “forced” is what has led to decline of Bharahiya culture unfortunately
@siamesevodka
@siamesevodka Жыл бұрын
​@@martisbvk Carnatic might have started out as being in Halegannada but people like Purandara Daasa composed in incredibly Sanskritised Kannada.
@siamesevodka
@siamesevodka Жыл бұрын
@@honestbrahm Preach all you like but enrolling your children in classes without asking them if that's what they want to do is wrong. Even if you are deadset on your children learning, say, Carnatic music, at least give them some choice. I for one despised singing Carnatic... if my parents had at least asked me if I wanted to do something else Carnatic-related I would have told them immediately that I would have preferred to learn the veena or mridanga instead. But no, because immigrant parents foist their expectations upon their children...
@pissupehelwan
@pissupehelwan Жыл бұрын
For Westerners and non-Indians: both Carnatic and Hindustani (the 2 different forms of Indian Classical music) are very much contemporary. They have ancient origins but both are taught, learnt and performed in the current day and age. There are plenty of concerts both in India and abroad where Indian Classical music lovers can and do go and enjoy just like you have concerts for Western Classical music.
@igormitin1989
@igormitin1989 Жыл бұрын
By now I strongly believe that Malinda is getting herself ready for timetravel with these traditional singing styles so she can blend in easily in the past
@chiyahoskere
@chiyahoskere Жыл бұрын
this is still a widely used style of singing in south india and many many who dedicate their lives towards it
@sushi6368
@sushi6368 Жыл бұрын
There is a huge platform for Carnatic music in India. Chennai, TN, in south india is the hub for it! An entire month is dedicated for the Carnatic music where artists perform in various performing arts centres across the city. This is one of the most interesting and challenging form of art. If you ask someone learning international art forms in music, this will be the top of their list! Just cuz something is not marketed so much doesn’t make it ancient or lessen it’s value. Kinda sad to see such a comment.
@rairadio7119
@rairadio7119 Жыл бұрын
She can use it in future too, as India continues to keep it's clothes and music with full gusto.
@irishsamurai9008
@irishsamurai9008 Жыл бұрын
I think she is preparing for the future. She will become one of our ambassadors when aliens land
@shoutg
@shoutg Жыл бұрын
some touch of mysticism in the singing
@scylla1772
@scylla1772 Жыл бұрын
Imagine her singing something like Chinese opera. So many wildly different musical traditions to try!!
@mayochupenjoyer
@mayochupenjoyer Жыл бұрын
now i really want to see that, along with maybe swedish and arab singing!
@solvated_photon
@solvated_photon Жыл бұрын
A lot of westerners probably won’t take Beijing Opera seriously at first though
@kuku8846
@kuku8846 Жыл бұрын
That was one of my first thoughts too! Chinese opera is such a rich aspect of Chinese culture, it would be really cool to see her try some of the singing techniques! Like besides Beijing opera, there’s also Kunqu and Sichuan opera and so on and so forth. 👀 Of course, it can also be very off-putting for some people who aren’t used to it, but with Yunjin from Genshin Impact and various songs that use Chinese opera techniques, I feel like it’s helped normalize it for some. Speaking of those songs though, since I know just how hard it can be getting into Chinese music when you don’t speak/read Chinese, I’ll leave some of the songs that incorporate Chinese opera into them below!: • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5ydfLuSybCak3U.html • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z56crLSgtb7SYI0.html • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r55ira5qq5a8d3U.html • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9GhnciflcyWno0.html • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZtGUobiZqMynfas.html • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7mPd5No07uWp6M.html (this one’s actually a song for a cartoon inspired by Beijing opera!) • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mapnhqmYlbG9YKc.html (this one’s got the instruments yet less of the vocals but it’s from a drama focused on Beijing opera, and the drama itself includes a few scenes of characters singing for the opera!) • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7tiodaWmbXMlWw.html (and ahhh Zhou Shen’s voice really is angelic… This isn’t even the first time he’s tried Chinese opera, as he’s also sung it here!: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJpgh5amvcqrZY0.html ) • And of course, I’d be remiss if I didn’t include Yunjin’s song: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m8V2YK55u6qzc6M.html I’m sure there’s more out there, but these were the ones I grabbed off the top of my head. I’ve gotten a lot more into Chinese media (donghua, manhua , cdramas, music etc) lately, and gufeng (ancient style-inspired Chinese music) is some of my favourite genres to listen to. It’s kind of why I have these songs; I enjoy collecting things into resources and then compiling lists of references/recommendations for newcomers to Chinese media. 😆 So yeah, sorry for the extreme enthusiasm, but I really do think it would be cool if Malinda tried Chinese opera! Otherwise, hey, at least I compiled some really nice music for people to stumble across ahaha. 💕
@mattbuszko
@mattbuszko Жыл бұрын
@@kuku8846 It's refreshing to read your enthusiasm and passion for Chinese performing arts. As a westerner, I had a similar experience with Vietnamese (and to a lesser extent Chinese) music. It's "other-ness" was a big barrier to entry initially. Now, it moves me deeply, especially the older, more traditional stuff. Music is amazing
@Amaiguri
@Amaiguri Жыл бұрын
@@solvated_photon Fair but it's so beautiful, everyone ought to try it at least twice
@miayana2539
@miayana2539 Жыл бұрын
I'm Indian and the title made me super emotional. I've been following Melinda since her Google translate sings days and the Irish singing video was one of my favourites. So to see her explore my culture's traditional style of singing makes me so happy :)
@siamesevodka
@siamesevodka Жыл бұрын
This is very cool. I too was 'forced' to learn Carnatic music as a young immigrant boy, I appreciate it now a lot more than I did then! Really looking forward to the next one in this series, Malinda, I loved the Sean Nos video a few months back too. Edit: something not mentioned by Archana in the video is that there aren't just different kinds of raagas but different varieties of talas (the beat they played with their hands). This one is the Adi tala, the first tala any student learns.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi Жыл бұрын
She did mention that it's the first form that is taught specifically that she's doing here, though.
@siamesevodka
@siamesevodka Жыл бұрын
@@KainYusanagi Oh I don't think I was paying attention, I thought she was referring to the raaga she sang in being the first one you learn... oops.
@aryaleelamisra4407
@aryaleelamisra4407 Жыл бұрын
i have grown up learning hindustani classical music which is the other form of traditional indian singing and it makes me very happy for my culture being shown on ur channel!
@briansgamesandanime
@briansgamesandanime Жыл бұрын
It's so amazing to hear traditional carnatic music integrated with Western pop. It's just more proof how music is a universal language. I thoroughly enjoyed learning about this style. 🥰
@marilouhuille4578
@marilouhuille4578 Жыл бұрын
You might like Susheela Raman ! She does that with such talent 💖
@briansgamesandanime
@briansgamesandanime Жыл бұрын
@@marilouhuille4578 thanks🥰
@AlexXPandian
@AlexXPandian Жыл бұрын
@@briansgamesandanime Someone called Ilaiayaraaja has been doing this for decades, and in a genre defining way. Probably 500+ songs to choose from but here is one : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fd18n5t4zK_Ucmw.html
@luna6975
@luna6975 Жыл бұрын
You should listen to Shuba! She does this in her songs
@briansgamesandanime
@briansgamesandanime Жыл бұрын
@@luna6975 thanks I will☺️
@Amuzic
@Amuzic Жыл бұрын
6:58 that Sun coming out was so apt. Because the Raga Archana is singing here is equivalent to Raga Bhairabhi in North Indian Hindustani classic. The name literally meaning something to be sung at Bhor(Dawn or morning). Yeah, Archana left out the most beautiful aspect of Indian Ragas. They are closely related to time of the day and the environment and the mood.
@TheCosmicNote
@TheCosmicNote Жыл бұрын
Very true. Raag Bhairavi is such a beautiful rag, so Komal and it’s perfect for mornings.
@supriyamallaya8452
@supriyamallaya8452 Жыл бұрын
It’s not Bhairavi. It’s Raaga Mayamalavagowla which is equal to Raag Bhairav not Bhairavi in Hindustani
@blueberrymuffin4921
@blueberrymuffin4921 Жыл бұрын
@@supriyamallaya8452 yea the first ragam learned is mayamalavagoula
@Amuzic
@Amuzic Жыл бұрын
@@supriyamallaya8452 i didn't say it is. As I am not aware of Carnatic Ragas. But, it did sound similar to Bhairavi in Hindustani. Thanks for illuminating.
@HybridCalisthenics
@HybridCalisthenics Жыл бұрын
Saw this video pop up on my feed. Sounding great as usual, Malinda!
@ativerc
@ativerc Жыл бұрын
Hey man, nice to see you here. Your videos help out everyday. Have a nice day.
@lornilula4213
@lornilula4213 Жыл бұрын
aye Hampton!
@scientia.veritas
@scientia.veritas Жыл бұрын
Weird seeing you here. Worlds colliding!
@preet2692
@preet2692 Жыл бұрын
Wow, Hampton, didn't imagine I'd see you here! 😊
@lauren3173
@lauren3173 Жыл бұрын
I was apprehensive of watching this video for so long. I am adopted from India. I was adopted into a white family in midwestern America. I have spent my whole life trying to connect with my culture and figure out how I fit into it. Learning about something so deep and meaningful to my culture has always been intimidating and somewhat isolating. But I want to do it so badly. This video means so much to me because it’s like having a friend here to support me. Someone familiar to learn along with me. Thank you Malinda! ❤
@artarmour7914
@artarmour7914 8 ай бұрын
Hey
@tomcline5631
@tomcline5631 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like the notes go flat slightly,almost into a minor. Fascinating scale! Our band director tried to explain this to us but I never got it! This was in the mid 80s in Missouri,so not a lot of resources available. So cool!
@leo_ryda-81
@leo_ryda-81 Жыл бұрын
It is sort of a "minor scale"; if we put the basic carnatic scale that she sang into western notation, it would be C C# E F G G# B C (if C were the key)
@sahanaashvin1573
@sahanaashvin1573 Жыл бұрын
The scale always changes based on the raagam! Youd be surprised.
@alcurtis93
@alcurtis93 Жыл бұрын
It has a Phrygian/ Phrygian dominant feel
@meret99
@meret99 Жыл бұрын
Archana’s speaking and singing voices are so different....she just transforms magically when she sings!💖
@benjaminbennington213
@benjaminbennington213 Жыл бұрын
"Mongolian Throat Singing" This would be really cool to hear you try out
@djordjepejic864
@djordjepejic864 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I came here just to say this 😁😁😁
@amylee6585
@amylee6585 Жыл бұрын
Oh god I've wanted to learn Carnatic and Hindustani for the longest time! Glad to see that someone trained mainly in the Western style (like me!) try it
@chiyahoskere
@chiyahoskere Жыл бұрын
i’d suggest that you don’t try both because your voice would need to be properly conditioned for both styles and they’re both very distinct. having learnt carnatic my whole life i cannot bring life to a hindustani based song because of the way my voice was shaped strictly to carnatic styles.
@bodybuilderwholostloveinlife
@bodybuilderwholostloveinlife Жыл бұрын
Try Hindustani (Northern) classical music first because our scales are much easier and quite equivalent to Western scales and we don't engage in microtonal or quartertone music immediately. The south Indian music style is a little more complex and tougher to learn straight away.
@yamiyugi3871
@yamiyugi3871 10 ай бұрын
I am not Indian, however I really find Carnatic singing kind of hypnotic and super interesting! It’s so irresistible to listen to!
@elitzapetrova3768
@elitzapetrova3768 Жыл бұрын
And also confirm as another comment says (about Slavic music), in Bulgaria, which is where I originally come from, there exists a traditional singing rich of extra long female voice sounds that produce a mystic effect on the human mind. One song particularly, "Izlel e Delio haidutin", has been included in the Voyager Golden record launched in the space in 1977.
@AshNight1214
@AshNight1214 Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to hear how the traditional Kagoshima/Okinawan style of Japanese singing is created. I love the sound but can’t figure out how to make it happen
@isabellamelendez4424
@isabellamelendez4424 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way!
@StephanieV04
@StephanieV04 Жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode on Slavic traditional folk singing and Scandinavian folk singing? I know there are probably better terms but I mean the music from Slavic and Scandinavian countries like Poland, Belarus, Bulgaria, Sweden, the faroe islands, Iceland etc. Also an episode on native people's traditional music would be very interesting as well.
@thedanishcatgirl3205
@thedanishcatgirl3205 Жыл бұрын
Yes that would be so cool. Maybe old Norse singing. I have always loved my Viking heritage and I know that there are people who not only know how to speak old Norse but also sing it.
@thedanishcatgirl3205
@thedanishcatgirl3205 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe Kulning which is an ancient Swedish type of herdingcall. I remember watching a video with it and it sounded very magical
@weronikamusia1113
@weronikamusia1113 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I also wanted to write a comment and suggest the Slavic technique of the 'white voice'! I'm learning to sing it myself and would love to see Malinda's view on it
@ventisupremacist6965
@ventisupremacist6965 Жыл бұрын
as a slav , I would literally love that so much
@joermnyc
@joermnyc Жыл бұрын
Bulgarian would be cool, I’m pretty sure it’s one everyone knows because it was used for the choir vocals in Xena: Warrior Princess.
@keerthanas4144
@keerthanas4144 Жыл бұрын
As an Indian, I'm so glad that one of my fav singers from the US does a Collab with an Indian artist.. I'm sure all the other Indians are feeling the same 😭
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
Nope. Some of us are not happy with bringing Carnatic to the west. The West has had a brutal history of digesting music and then denigrating the culture. Jazz, Blues, even Hindustani in the 70's and today Latino thrived when it's progenitors were relegated and the source culture was denigrated. They will do the same to Carnatic. I am not a traditionalist by any stretch of imagination, but this is one of the cases where it needs to be retained in temples.
@keerthanas4144
@keerthanas4144 Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs .... Dude it's Malinda we're talking about. I'm really glad that Indian style of music is being recognised by the world! What happened in the past has already happened and the world changed a lot since the 70s. If you read the comments in this video you'll see how much some of the foreigners liked this style and how curious they are to learn about the culture. And yes I wouldn't want that to happen to Carnatic especially since I've learnt it in my younger days. But I Believe the world has changed a lot since the 70s and that history would never repeat again
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
@@keerthanas4144 1. My comment does not have to do with the content creator, but the audience and the way the artforms have been used, absorbed and discarded by the west. To say that this stopped in the 70's is not true. It's happening with Latino culture right now. A contemporary Indian example is the way Yoga is being twisted that even I feel uncomfortable(a philosophy of self reliance on bodily level now is a commercialized product with India, the source of the knowledge making zero money and zero authority over its own tradition). All this while being disabused of our concerns. Meanwhile there is a silent attack on "Indianness" of yoga both on the academic and cultural spheres. 2. Indians particularly seem to have this penchant that a bunch of people enjoying the artform equates to elevation of the artform internationally. We substitute this "foreign acceptance" for our lack of confidence in our own culture. The art form due to its nature will never be for the masses, it will be for institutions to make this American and then trash it. 3. I am not saying people should not practice the artform or even that it's Indian in perpetuity, all I am asking for is the source to have credit and authority over its evolution just the way it happens with western artforms, food and culture. Otherwise the day is not far when Indians have to learn Carnatic at Berklee, just the way "Indology" died and became "South Asian studies" with its locus at Yale.
@rohinikayal4440
@rohinikayal4440 Жыл бұрын
agreed
@Ermude10
@Ermude10 Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs Hm, I personally don't like that way of thinking. Might be that I don't fully understand the cultural significance of this type of singing, but I think there's something sad about hindering traditional artforms from evolving with the passage of time. It's not like Jazz, Blues, western classical music, latin music and other genres evolved from nothing. They also evolved by building upon previous traditions. And they're still practiced in the same or similar way to the old traditions, albeit not in the mainstream and by most musicians. EDIT: Aha, just read your second post. > I am not saying people should not practice the artform or even that it's Indian in perpetuity, all I am asking for is the source to have credit and authority over its evolution I can sympathise with that a bit more. To be honest, I think any artform will sooner or later be adopted outside of its traditional settings. The only way for "its source" to influence its evolution is then to actually be the main driver of teaching and spreading the artform so that "outsiders" don't misappropriate it, but that rather let the traditional practitioners adopt outside influence to evolve the art.
@Cardsmaster
@Cardsmaster Жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful. How art brings two people together. The willingness to learn. Every culture has treasures to be learned.
@ASentientBlockofSwissCheese
@ASentientBlockofSwissCheese Жыл бұрын
Omg as a student of Carnatic music I’m so glad you appreciated and explored it. It’s a beautiful tradition and a part of my heart. Thank you so much for this, Melinda.
@phantaphil
@phantaphil Жыл бұрын
If I could communicate with trees If I could tame the seven seas If I could conduct each storm and breeze I would compose an earthwide song For all living beings to humm along All birds, all whales together singing Just one simple melody, harmony bringing Soothing mankind's ignorance and rage Allowing the planet to enter a new age This age of euphony will heal the world As I said, if I could I would write what I heard
@yasco.
@yasco. Жыл бұрын
that’s so beautiful 😍 where’s it from? did you write it yourself?
@phantaphil
@phantaphil Жыл бұрын
@@yasco. Yes, I wrote this myself. Thank you so much!
@yourlocaldreamgirl
@yourlocaldreamgirl Жыл бұрын
This is very beautiful!!Keep it up 💓
@phantaphil
@phantaphil Жыл бұрын
@@yourlocaldreamgirl Thank you so much 💜 I will 😊
@mikaelafox6106
@mikaelafox6106 Жыл бұрын
I know people who can communicate with trees.
@ninnusridhar
@ninnusridhar Жыл бұрын
I grew up learning the mridhangan(the traditional percussion accompaniment for a carnatic song), so this theory hit so close to my own experiences. Great job Mel
@boardmsr
@boardmsr Жыл бұрын
When Archana starts singing just the basic Sa Re Ga Ma, it seems so magical..
@sinimeg
@sinimeg Жыл бұрын
This is such a cool idea for a series, this is the kind of thing that I would have liked to be taught in high school in the music class. This first video was so cool and interesting, loved it
@purpleworm4725
@purpleworm4725 Жыл бұрын
I really like the part where you tried to learn carnatic way of singing, because when Archana just showed some examples I really couldn't wrap my brain around how it is done. Like normally when I hear a brief melody I can repeat it. But here my brain was just stuck and my mind was blown :)
@edwardspencer9397
@edwardspencer9397 Жыл бұрын
For how difficult it truly is.. try these 2 videos. This is Kaushiki Chakraborty when she was a little girl trained by her father kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJyfrNOq0JeqeKc.html. This is when Kaushiki is an adult and is a legend herself kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6uhjN2V35m-pps.html The notes you are hearing are usually sa re ga ma pa and permutations and combinations of these. pa ma ga re ma, pa re ga ma dha.. and so on.
@purpleworm4725
@purpleworm4725 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardspencer9397 3:06 in the second video - OMG how?!?!?! :O
@diverseindia6397
@diverseindia6397 Жыл бұрын
@@purpleworm4725 she belongs from a very famous family in music. She is grand daughter of an Indian legend. They are purely in classical music. If you want to listen a bollywood singer whose back ground is classical music but they sing other styles too then I'm dropping two links ( first one is consist of a high note C#6 which is not a head voice ) Second one is semi classical, checkout both and then give your opinion I'll be glad to read your review. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8x7nbFp0J7clps.html - female singer kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldGnf81j0dTRdZ8.html - male singer
@sm_artx
@sm_artx Жыл бұрын
I love both Hindustani and Carnatic styles of music. However, the quarter tones are the ones that give me goosebumps every time I hear Carnatic music.
@howHumam
@howHumam Жыл бұрын
I don't usually enjoy hardcore traditional Indian singing, but this really helped me understand what's going on. I am grateful to learn, and can't wait to see where this series goes.
@psychadelicpotato8580
@psychadelicpotato8580 Жыл бұрын
Once you understand the minute nuances, science and it's principals, you'll start appreciating it even more. I used to not enjoy it much in the past, but since I began training I began viewing it with much more respect and awe.
@arjun_ragafanatic
@arjun_ragafanatic Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this take on a music very close to my heart. Unfortunately it's the case that we only have so much time to talk much about it. So I thought I'd take some time to add a few things that may interest people here. 1. Carnatic music is not a "1000 years old". It is not an ossified system that has been "preserved" since antiquity. It is a living breathing, and continuously evolving incarnation of the musical ideas that have risen in the vast land of India over millenia. With the exception of passages taken out of Hindu scripture, all the greatest compositions today date back to the 17th to 18th century. There are older compositions which we have unfortunately lost the melodies of. This music is still very much evolving incorporating the diversity of styles from across India. 2. Archana has described a raga very beautifully. It is a feeling. If you take a set of melodic phrases that "feel right" together and convey some emotional idea, you have a raga. Make no mistake, this is not a concept unique to Indian music. Arabic music has it, even western music. We simply have a dedicated system to study this 3. I have to disagree with the voice thing. Like with any music there are a variety of voices. It is completely incorrect to claim that all singers sing in a frontal manner. I personally like to switch it up when I sing. The human voice is really flexible and can create stunning sounds when explored. Carnatic music makes use of Chest, throat, and head resonances and a lot more. no falsetto is used however. 4. Regarding quarter tones.... I understand that there's a lot of academic interest in this as it is unfamiliar to wester audiences. However IMHO the best way of looking at this is through the lens of emotion. Quarter tones are used ALL THE TIME in western music, they're just not called so. I've heard them consistently in blues and country music. All of those vocal flourishes that convey that extra punch of feeling typically involve a microtone. Western Classical violinists use microtones to add more "feeling" quite often. So in summary, quarter notes are not the "basis" for the music, emotion is. When I learn a scale, there is no guide other than what my teacher sings and what it makes me feel. If you want to learn the music, it's easier if you feel it out than if you think about the microtones. 5. Ornamentations define the music. They are not "optional". The very identity of many ragas is borne out in the way the notes are ornamented. In-fact the word Ornamentation is a bit of a misnomer. In Carnatic music, the word "swara" (closest concept to a note) refers to a moving body of sound and not a specific frequency. E.g. Sa being flat and Re being an oscillation around Sa in the raga gowla. Again, the best way to internalize these things is to listen, feel, and practice.
@MysticHeather
@MysticHeather Жыл бұрын
Your comment is super enlightening thank you for sharing!! As someone w a cultural and lived history w bluegrass music I can totally see what you mean about the quarter notes
@MyRx777z
@MyRx777z Жыл бұрын
It's really interesting....listening to India's ancient singing has that humming and nasally type of gesture, reaction, or emotion involved in it. In Asia, Vietnamese and Chinese's ancient singing has that same vocal emotion too.
@azainkadri9556
@azainkadri9556 Жыл бұрын
It's not this nasal or humming traditionally. It's the way she specifically sings.
@MyRx777z
@MyRx777z Жыл бұрын
@@azainkadri9556 , did you see her expression with her hands? She pointed the sound, vocal, or focus gathered in one spot and that is around her nasal area
@TheOne-ix6qc
@TheOne-ix6qc Жыл бұрын
As a person who is learning North Indian classical singing, I'm fascinated by the Carnatic music. Just so amazing!
@thewierd_thewonderful996
@thewierd_thewonderful996 Жыл бұрын
She says it's all nasal. But being a South indian myself who was trained in carnatic, i think we are discouraged from using the nose a lot while singing. It's a mix of both, we use the nose but we don't solely use the nose.
@harihp7
@harihp7 Жыл бұрын
I've learned carnatic music for about 10 years and it was fun watching u learn it^^ Archana has a very beautiful voice and she couldn't have explained it any better... thanku for the lovely video❤️
@chillsahoy2640
@chillsahoy2640 Жыл бұрын
Being part Spanish, I'd be very curious to see you dissect and expertiment with traditional Spanish music, especially considering any Arabic influences it may have incorporated! I wonder how it differs from other Mediterranean musical styles from countries that did not spend 800 years under Arab control, whether that had any effect on the instrumentation or chords that are used.
@mar1na1993
@mar1na1993 Жыл бұрын
I am half spanish, too, and would love to learn more about the flamenco style of singing - what makes it unique, etc.
@gadeaiglesiassordo716
@gadeaiglesiassordo716 Жыл бұрын
I'm Spanish and I was actually thinking not about flamenco but about the singing techniques involved in singing jotas (traditional music from northern Spain)
@LucaAnamaria
@LucaAnamaria Жыл бұрын
This would be awesome. I am not Spanish, but my soul is at least partly so. 😜
@lll2282
@lll2282 Жыл бұрын
Indian music got no arab influences but arabs do have indian influences
@luzyfuerza101
@luzyfuerza101 Жыл бұрын
You know, the he gitanos originally derived from India, do you notice any similarity in this singing and their singing? :-)
@842king9
@842king9 Жыл бұрын
This concept is an absolutely great idea! I'm loving learning how artists are celebrating their traditional music and carrying it forward! So important! I love seeing it! Be still my heart! 🤍
@physicist-physician5555
@physicist-physician5555 Жыл бұрын
This style is very difficult to learn but yet very beautiful.
@aananya6106
@aananya6106 Жыл бұрын
Singers are truly something different... I took absolutely ages to learn how much Malinda learnt in the span of this video, and their singing legit gave me chills and goosebumps. So good.
@pendragon2012
@pendragon2012 Жыл бұрын
Malinda you are a national (and international) treasure! I love how you're highlighting all the different cultures and traditions! Beauty will save the world!
@loonylovegood2.073
@loonylovegood2.073 Жыл бұрын
Omgggg that's so cool!!! ❤️❤️❤️ Happy belated Birthday btw.. Hope you had the happiest of birthdays Malinda 🎂🥳
@StephJ0seph
@StephJ0seph Жыл бұрын
Props to Archana omg ❤💕💗
@crystalolson9594
@crystalolson9594 Жыл бұрын
This is so amazing ❣️ I love what you're doing & sharing 🙂 thank you 🌌
@froseed
@froseed Жыл бұрын
OMG Malinda!! Yess!!!! This is soooo good! It's a marvelous idea! I love this so much. I like the translation stuff too (still can't get over gradually watermelon) but this project feels like something much much more important
@aalaworks
@aalaworks Жыл бұрын
As an Indian really feels proud to see video abt carnatic music. Thanks... And you Archana you really talented.thanks.. And all your songs are good
@jude.niranjan
@jude.niranjan Жыл бұрын
This is a good Indian and a true Hindu I suppose. Good vibe and good character are so much more important than puritanism and bigotry.
@remyatempest6700
@remyatempest6700 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this! Looove the how she broke it down! I found myself singing along.
@alitherebelinstigator.7106
@alitherebelinstigator.7106 11 ай бұрын
This was magnificent! You approached this with such respect and obvious joy, it's all anyone from another culture could ask for. You did great stepping outside of that comfort zone and learning something new, that's always humbling, haha! Thanks for the intro to Archana, she's epic (listening now on Spotify). Bless, dear Lady.
@vaamikasharma
@vaamikasharma Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this is going to be a series because music really does transcends cultures and languages. Also Archana seems like such a great teacher!
@deetyareddy3874
@deetyareddy3874 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it so fascinating that what she sang today wasn't even one drop in the ocean? That was a molecule in the ocean of carnatic music. 😌 (Proud to be a Carnatic singer and an Indian, also this music is around 5000 years old... It all starts in the Vedas, the Samaveda especially) Edit: I'm a girl. So if you are arguing about a comment I made ages ago... At least use the correct pronouns of She/her.... I love how people assumed that I'm some guy... Also I am a carnatic singer and people should know that all Hindu scriptures have been passed down through word of mouth before they were written. And history that we know today is fragmented, not everything that is written is true because most of it is interpreted. However, the literature used in compositions and the language is what tells us how old the piece actually is.
@Jaitelugutalli
@Jaitelugutalli Жыл бұрын
Nenu kuda
@luzyfuerza101
@luzyfuerza101 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear more about it cause I love the sutras
@arkamukhopadhyay9111
@arkamukhopadhyay9111 Жыл бұрын
No it isn't. Stop this "everything is 5,000 years old" RSS nonsense. 5,000 years ago the Indus civilisation was just getting started and we know nothing about their language, let alone their music. The Vedas wouldn't be composed for another 1,000 years. Carnatic music in its present form goes back to the 17th century. At most you could stretch it to Annamacharyya. And that is ancient enough, venerable enough, without artificially inflating it with this fake, misguided nationalism.
@uselesshero.official
@uselesshero.official Жыл бұрын
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111 wow your flowery and fancy English just reflects on how much you're insecure with our heritage!
@goku9401
@goku9401 Жыл бұрын
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111 tell me what do you know about Indus valley civilization and what do you know about overall history of India ? I can argue with you on this all day because I am an architecture student and I study about worlds ancient history and civilizations frequently, so I would like to know from where did you derived that Indus valley civilization was just getting started 5000 years ago ? and second thing what does RSS has to do with any of these things, I bet you don't even know what it is and are just blind in hatred.
@DaveG207
@DaveG207 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved that! I love the different tones that voices have - when Malinda started singing I immediately recognised it, although it was a different singing style, and though “Ah, love her voice”. Then when Archana sang again I loved that too, but such a different timbre. Off to listen to more of Archana now, and can’t wait for more of this sort of thing.
@bhanushreeprasad
@bhanushreeprasad Жыл бұрын
You have a very calm, curious, and innocent demeanor. It was a pleasure to learn from your learnings.
@Serenity_Dee
@Serenity_Dee Жыл бұрын
The discussion of resonance reminds me of how I was taught to manage it when I was taking lessons on feminizing my voice; we were taught to gradually move it out of our chest and into our throat before bringing it all the way forward. (There were other things we were taught alongside resonance, of course, which are much more socially learned behaviors rather than the result of testosterone poisoning.)
@leo_ryda-81
@leo_ryda-81 Жыл бұрын
This is such a wholesome video! I'm so glad to see that you are providing a platform for us all to learn about the different cultures through music! Music truly does bring all of us together! The only thing that I would like to modify about what Archana said about carnatic singing is that it is not a "nasal" technique; instead you are encouraged to sing from the diaphragm (why students are required to sit criss cross on the floor); different notes resonate in different parts of the body at different pitches, but it is not primarily nasal
@A-ID-A-M
@A-ID-A-M Жыл бұрын
I am so glad you made this. I was looking into Carnatic music a few years ago, but the resources were so scarce!
@davidmoffitt9257
@davidmoffitt9257 Жыл бұрын
OMG! This blew my mind! Thank you so much. I had a lot of fun watching this and singing along.
@thelocalplatypus2711
@thelocalplatypus2711 Жыл бұрын
This is so awesome! I appreciate your music Malinda, thank you!
@carlinc.christensen3478
@carlinc.christensen3478 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing!! Thank you for sharing your curiosity and discoveries with us! you make the world a better place!!!!
@sori6196
@sori6196 Жыл бұрын
thank you for bringing cultures together through videos like this. the respect and curiosity you have for this tradition shines through in the way you ask questions
@yendanjin
@yendanjin Жыл бұрын
this is so incredible, enjoyed it wholeheartedly. Thank you both
@glassdragonmedia
@glassdragonmedia Жыл бұрын
Omg that's so cool. Absolutely beautiful, I just love the way this sounds. I love the sound of music from all the different ancient cultures. You can just picture yourself in the native environment. It's like a mood. Omg I can't wait to hear more, Malinda! Personally, I've been learning a lot of Viking music. It's ancestral for me. It's very beaty, gets my blood boiling and makes me battle ready or solemn depending on the song. I recommend groups like SKÁLD, Heilung, Danheim, and others.
@Cinnder
@Cinnder Жыл бұрын
That wasn't the sun; it was the light of knowledge. :-) Love these videos, and always fascinated how you're willing to push yourself outside your normal boundaries. Also, good timing what with similar fusion music being used in the Ms Marvel series now playing.
@TheAspiringCentenarian
@TheAspiringCentenarian Жыл бұрын
Very happy to bump into this series!! Wow, this is such a treat! Thank you for this amazing musical exploration @Malinda!!!
@Proud_Pagan
@Proud_Pagan Жыл бұрын
Belonging to north of India I was introduced to Carnatic music quite late in my life but the moment I started listening to Carnatic music I fell in love with this style . ❤️❤️
@Melissa_939
@Melissa_939 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful interview Malinda and you introduced us to a gorgeous artist! I'd really love to see you learning about and attempting to joik. It's a traditional style of singing practiced by the Sami
@tharii314
@tharii314 Жыл бұрын
I'm grown with sinhalese music which is inspired by Indian classicals, Most prominently it's Hindustani-ish but sometimes Carnatic vibes also gets into play. Archana's voice tho, It drives me back to my school days where I were studying Eastern Music!
@syam6043
@syam6043 Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that I came across you on yt. You're so versatile and I appreciate your efforts to bring forth the ancient masterpieces. Thanks again Malinda. I adore your works.
@natpic5486
@natpic5486 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous! I am so excited that you are doing this serie!!! I love this video thanks to you both!
@rrrosecarbinela
@rrrosecarbinela Жыл бұрын
This is very fun, and I hope you do continue with this possible new series!
@neocaliber4453
@neocaliber4453 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy amazing! I love this stuff.
@bookwyrm2011
@bookwyrm2011 Жыл бұрын
That was so beautiful! Thank you for sharing this style. Please do more!
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both for making this; it's a new adventure for me and I appreciate it!
@geetanjalichatterjee3140
@geetanjalichatterjee3140 Жыл бұрын
Carnatic notes are so much more difficult than Hindustani classical notes, although both the modes are equally beautiful and intricate
@anna-maymoon1001
@anna-maymoon1001 Жыл бұрын
I love this series so much! It's so cool to learn along with you and from people who are passionate about the music they're singing ❤🙌 (Also you ask excellent questions!) I remember listening to carnatic whilst doing GCSE music and my teacher just couldn't get it across to us. It's nice that the syllabus has such a wide range of music included but it would have been even better if we could have listened to the music performed live and taught the nuances by the artists themselves. Its a bit like studying Shakespeare without seeing the play - yes you can read and watch a performance, but it's not the same as being in the room and getting goosebumps.
@pteddygovender6584
@pteddygovender6584 Жыл бұрын
Thamil radio hd listen to the radio
@JessyBaby07
@JessyBaby07 Жыл бұрын
💖💖 this was beautiful!! Thank you both!
@Tizzavizza
@Tizzavizza Жыл бұрын
She's such a good teacher!! Very calming
@shubhasv9803
@shubhasv9803 Жыл бұрын
Lovely video! You honor us by learning about our music and singing it ❤
@heteranthera3473
@heteranthera3473 Жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. I relly like this kind of singing and her voice is awesome! Also, very well done Malinda, that seemed really difficult.
@justgogo2370
@justgogo2370 Жыл бұрын
That sunlight... looks like you are enlighten!!!
@alainadacosta1222
@alainadacosta1222 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful style of singing! I loved how it connects her to her culture
@annmariebartholomew2591
@annmariebartholomew2591 Жыл бұрын
That ‘shake’ itches my brain, it’s so beautiful
@murg27
@murg27 Жыл бұрын
Archana has a beautiful voice and her classical singing is perfect. It shows the amount of practice she would have put in over many years. We should appreciate her parents who put her to learning it 👏
@LiwaySaGu
@LiwaySaGu Жыл бұрын
so beautiful thanks for featuring this wonderful singer
@lizreilly2493
@lizreilly2493 Жыл бұрын
I LOVED that - thank you so much for sharing!
@Marcusnoredpond
@Marcusnoredpond Жыл бұрын
How wonderful is this channel and this episode! As a child my mother saw the goodness of Carnatic music, I quit just before reaching mastery to play sports 😊 Now I want to learn again embracing my southern Indian culture. More power to you both
@nordicson2835
@nordicson2835 Жыл бұрын
Thank you this was an awesome post. My sister in law is from India , she has an amazing voice , she has been coaching our daughter, ( her God daughter), and she has really improved, thank you for giving her the credit she really deserves. Could you post a link for voice coaches in this style for parents looking for coaches in this style
@lorismithey538
@lorismithey538 Жыл бұрын
OMG I love you!!! I was hoping you would do this. I'm so excited!!
@sugar_cube_draws
@sugar_cube_draws Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I’ve always compared your singing to the techniques I was taught in my Carnatic class which helped me place my voice more comfortably! And this video feels like a manifestation lol this is such a treat to watch!
@Ethrianor
@Ethrianor Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Love music from all around the world. Watched some from a couple of years back of Pratibha Sarathy. Also different styles of throat singing, and just too many others to list.
@coolomya2253
@coolomya2253 Жыл бұрын
OMG i can keep listening to Archana singing classical. sooooo soothing and awesome
@juliacornejo7802
@juliacornejo7802 Жыл бұрын
Even though I didn't know the actual name, I've heard Carnatic singing and I find it so glorious and expressive I love this series you decided to do, I love learning about different singing styles and specially when you are behind the content, because I also love the time and passion you put into your videos and projects. I can't wait to see what's coming next.
@KeppaTheDutch
@KeppaTheDutch Жыл бұрын
This was amazing and I'm SO stoked for this series!! You were really getting the hang of it! I would love to see you learn about Pansori, which is Korean traditional "operatic" music. It's stories in song, and the vocal style for them is very specific and ornamental. Can't wait for whatever comes next!!
@OKBettsy
@OKBettsy Жыл бұрын
This makes me want to learn Carnatic music, it's so so beautiful. Archana is an incredible artist, definitely checking her music out
@savesoil3133
@savesoil3133 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful indeed! 🌸 #SaveSoil #ConsciousPlanet
@starhill6792
@starhill6792 Жыл бұрын
Archana is so talented!!!
@rachaeltrujillo9960
@rachaeltrujillo9960 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this! Quarter tones are so freakin hard to wrap my mind around. It takes mad skill. I learned alot from this thank you! It’s like when a western singer tries to purposefully sing “off key” it’s extremely hard to do intentionally. We have trained our ear to identify it as wrong but in this kind of context it is so cool. You did way better than I would’ve Malinda!
@nauhcampa
@nauhcampa Ай бұрын
Her voice is insaneeee + amazingly beautiful
@PavanMS87
@PavanMS87 Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes! Fell in love with you both 🤯🤯incredible stuff 🫶🏻
@ElineVera
@ElineVera Жыл бұрын
Ohh I looove this video! Please make more for different singing style. You girls are awesome!
@Y45UH1D3
@Y45UH1D3 Жыл бұрын
Such an awesome concept! Can't wait for the next installment!
@jaganbharadwaj1143
@jaganbharadwaj1143 Жыл бұрын
Malinda.. we applaud you 🤗🤗🤗🤗
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