main stream media for ya. they really need to be held accountable for wasting peoples time.

wow that is pathetic!

That's how deep their agenda goes. Everyone is expendable, except their flawed virtue signaling about a made-up climate issue.

Money over customer safety

Nice!

You should report it to the FTC.... yes, the federal trades commission.

If a fire starts with a lithium Ion battery there is no putting it out. The lithium makes its own oxygen in the fire so you can’t smother it. Fire departments put water on to keep it from spreading to something else until it burns itself out. There is new battery technology that doesn’t do this. Tesla is switching over to it. It still uses Lithium too my understanding. LFP battery’s Lithium Iron phosphate. There is something about the lithium ion battery that causes this.

You are correct. The usual media alarmist pitch. 'If it bleeds, it leads' mentality. There is a risk with these batteries, but this video did not help.

I fucking know right, I'm recovering batteries from those stupid disposable vapes and I'm trying to educate myself on what to do if things go south. this video is useless and is just scare-mongering. looking past the scare-mongering, you can kinda see a "Do not overcharge", but it's not made very clear. especially not clear what overcharging is or how it happens. in fact I'll copy paste what I've written here into the comments

What do you think does it take to battle a volcano?😁

What I took away from it is I do not need any device that badly. We have our laptops and our phones and that's it. No weed whackers or leaf blowers or scooters or ebikes. I dont need them that bad. Although I just realized we also have a popular vacuum that is powered by one and we leave it charged in all the time. That's going to change.

You can buy voltage controls for chargers... I have several and even one for my car so charging my Ebike and Eskate doesn't do this. This does remind me I probably wanna bring that to work when I charge there also though...

Or buying one from ill reputable companies china has by the dozens to rake in profits.

It's not just chargers. There's been many reports of batteries just exploding without being charged. Scary when it happens to your phone in your pocket. i.e. the first wave of uniscooters/hoverboards, Samsung cell phones a few years back, etc.

This doesn't happen to vehicles very often, but with other electronics is not unusual having people confuse chargers or just dont understand that because something has USB-c port for example, does not mean it can take as much current as your 60w fast charging phone. Really a lot of people don't know that phone chargers are rated differently, to them if the whole and the plug fit, it should work.

@@arturodelarosa4394 It should be up to the battery charging electronics to limit charging current no matter you much the charger can supply.

This is why bikes and scooters are banned in subway during commuting hours.😁

@@crazyedo9979 Not in Alberta, or Quebec. You see people with there bikes and scooters all the time..

Yes ,the cheap & low quality ones. 😮

I saw that. Poor kid!

ig it would be faulty design as well yeah, especially with larger batteries like in scooters/vehicles any competent manufacturer would have multiple failsafes in place to measure the batteries health and would disallow any charging if something's up.

To make this video they had to somehow bypass the BMS to overcharge severely enough to start a fire

@@aaronartale yeah that's kinda what I thought.

@@aaronartale also I think they would also need to use wrong charger cus chargers usually also limit the voltage.

​@nebulous962 Fireman said, they disconnected the safety system.

Right? She yanks her arm away from that child faster than you can say sociopath.

YUP I just type the same comment lol.

It's relative, but yeah, they are, i guess compared with gas powered vehicles is what they mean. Stats say EVs catch fire 60x less often than gas powered equivalents. Is that "safe", I would say so, or at least, "safe enough" that is not worth worrying about it.

Carbon Dioxide CO2. But if the fire it is too intense....it might become too late to stop it. Lithium-Ion fires become intense quickly.

They cannot be extinguished. Even if you somehow manage to extinguish a lithium battery fire, all you accomplish is turning it into a ticking time bomb. For small battery fires, focus on fireproofing and extinguishing any fires that propagate from the battery - don't use water (lithium reacts violently to water) and don't try to extinguish the battery itself. For medium battery fires, evacuate immediately and call the fire department. Ideally, you should never bring a lithium battery powered device into your home that's any bigger than a laptop. Electric scooters, bikes, etc. should only be charged outdoors, away from any flammables. In the end, the only way to extinguish a lithium battery fire is to simply let it burn itself out. This is part of what make large lithium batteries so dangerous.

Although you can put out the resulting fire, you can NOT put out the burning battery [chemical reaction producing the heat and fire] which is approximately 2000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Ones they have in plane hangars that release foam everywhere. House will be a total loss though.

Sorry they don't make one that big.😊

True. The only "how to combat" is buy certified batteries. It's more like, "lithium fires, what to expect."

I thought about that but they also cleared a path for the child to escape.

Yanking a child is abuse. A child lighting on fire is just an accident.

@@trueelectsupremea.m.mosttr4786 you are retarded

it happened in like a fraction of a second, they didn't have time to even consider that

from plant pranks I've seen on youtube, majority of parents run away leaving the baby stroller behind, so it's a natural reaction to sudden unexpected fear it seems.

If we don't do this for gas powered cars or motorcycles, and we know those catch fire 60x more often than EVs then why would we go to such lengths. I suspect the risk is more than acceptable, since we have been ignoring it for a century.

exactly, I only want to buy EVs with LFP batteries, not only safer but also longer lifespan and more eco friendly.

That’s not gonna save you

But you usually don't keep gas inside your house!

@@bardnightingale I'm guessing you mean gasoline. It really depends where. In many parts of the world where parking garages are not usual a lot of people put scooters indoors, not to mention in many suburban places garages are actually indoor. like indoor enough that if the garage catches on fire it will spread to the rest of the house. So yeah people keep gasoline indoors all the time, not to mention most homes run natural gas or propane literally into the house. My point is we take these risks and have been for a while. by comparison EVs are much more stable and safe than either natural gas or gasoline, but only EVs on fire make headlines.

The energy density of sodium ion batteries are too low for practical EV use, but are a great solution for grid-scale and home energy storage. Lithium Iron Phosphate (aka LiFePO4 or LFP) batteries are great for EVs and other personal mobility devices as they are significantly less likely to go up in flames. It's not impossible, but it's very difficult to get them to do the same thing when improperly charging them or puncturing them.

They're only just coming to market, but I'm sure they will quickly take the lead for grid-level and home-level energy storage due to both reduced cost and increased safety.

That won't put out the fire, but it might help prevent it from spreading. Even if you think you put the fire out, don't try to handle the remains. It can and will reignite at any time if there's still unburnt lithium. Let the fire department safely dispose of it.

How many gallons of sand would I need to dunk my e-bike in?

@@shadowshatto no difference. due to its own oxygen that continue to burn until it depletes.

Guarantee you're using Lithium battery though. Phone, computer. Etc. It is safe just like a knife can be safe. Don't be dumb, educate populace of proper practice, and install safety measures.

@@morsumbra9692 You're the dumb one (and you sound it). If you want to be a fool, then that's your choice; go ahead.

@@Baker_FPV You make me laugh, too!

They are, statistically. Something like 60 times more rare than it is for gas powered vehicles, so yeah i would say that qualifies as rare. I think for cars the number is something like 25 fires for every 100,000 sales or something like that. I would say that qualifies as rare. They didn't say "there are NO failures."

Replying @12villages: **TESLAS ALSO BURN DOWN, **ASSHATT!!**

Chinese anything to be safe.

Tesla uses China made batteries 😂 But Tesla uses LFP batteries which smoke under a full short circuit. These ebikes use NMC batteries which tend to burn like gun powder

Stay away from all batteries 💀

WHat about laptops and phones.

@@deidrabrey4043 didn’t have them 40 years ago we got by just fine.

Bruh! gas powered vehicles have been catching fire at a rate 60x bigger than EVs do for a century. And we didn't ban gasoline. Get out of here with your uninformed opinions.