THAT really answered all my questions re. my Lumatone together with Pianoteq - thanks a lot!!

Instead of setting the diapason in Pianoteq, I use Scala .kbm files (keyboard map). You can set any MIDI note as the reference note and specify a frequency for it.

Below is a .kbm file (save this as .kbm in a text editor) that tunes MIDI note 60 to Middle C (262Hz). No need to check or calculate the diapason value for Midi note 69 etc. You can simply drop the .kbm file on the Pianoteq window and it does its job. -Always save your Lumatone tunings from the popup menu on Pianoteq's tuning page. The .kbm (or diapason), Full Rebuild, stretch settings and the Extended Layout settings are saved with the tuning preset. ! Size of map: 0 ! First MIDI note number to retune: 0 ! Last MIDI note number to retune: 127 ! Scale degree 0 is mapped to MIDI note: 60 ! Reference MIDI note for which frequency is given: 60 ! Frequency of the above MIDI note: 261.63 ! Scale degree to consider as formal octave: 0 ! Mapping:

Go Dave! The Lumatone-Pianoteq combination has been absolutely amazing for me; I strongly recommend it for everybody. I have historically found more affinity toward woodwinds and guitar/lute. Keyboards never really “got me going,” so to speak, beyond just their historical and compositional prowess. However, Lumatone-Pianoteq really clicks in my brain and my hands. It’s a game-changer combination!

Brilliant video. This is exactly the info I need right now to set up 31 EDO with Pianoteq. Thanks

Oh, regarding your 311.13Hz for Diapason setting for 31TET. I've been using ~307Hz instead. Why? Because *that makes middle-A 440Hz* ! 311.13Hz may make sense for C, but it puts A at closer to 445Hz. The equivalent number for 19TET is 366.5Hz, for whatever it's worth. Absolute pitch is not a huge deal compared to relative pitch, of course, but I perceive that A=440Hz to be the International standard, so...

Aha! I was not aware of the multichannel-mapping option to get a 5-octave range. Seriously cool! I’ll have to try that this evening. To make the middle A play A=440, I’ve been using the frequency setting right next to the mu button, rather than the Diapason. It seems to have a similar effect.

What I do with the diapason stuff is always to set middle C instead: set the diapason to 261.62 Hz (which you can just make the same for every tuning if you want), and then since midi note 0 and other multiples of n are usually mapped to C in n-EDO Lumatone layouts (at least that's how I do it), all you have to do is, using the dropdown, set the top note in the list of note tunings to some MIDI note number which is a multiple of n, (usually 2n is good) and click the left margin of that box, next to the little dropdown widget, and you should see it draw a line connecting that note to the diapason box. It's a pretty sneaky user interface, the thing you have to click to set which note the diapason corresponds to is invisible. But this saves you from really having to calculate anything tricky, and it means that if you're playing in keys near C on the circle of fifths, you can often play along with other instruments tuned to 12 equal without sounding out of tune. (If you want to really optimize that, I would recommend picking whatever the tonic itself is in the song you were playing to tune to.) It's also worth pointing out that depending on which multiple of n you pick to tune the diapason to, you get different octaves of course, so you can make a "baritone" or "soprano" version of the same tuning to have on hand in Pianoteq, if you want a different range.

Another thing regarding the absolute-pitch setting (Diapason): I wanted to make a high-range 31TET piano sound, so I set it to double the 307Hz I use (614Hz -- actually closer to 614.5Hz). That worked. However, when I tried to create a lower-range piano sound, it didn't accept 153.5Hz. That setting has a lower-limit of 220Hz. I asked Pianoteq if they could lower that limit, perhaps to 110Hz. They replied that they'd consider it, and mentioned some ways to work around it, like using a Scala file.

with Pianoteq 8 the work around for the highest octave doesn't work, very frustrating. any help??

Yes, I figure scala .kbm files to set the mapping and the frequency.

Is serum compatible with the different tunings?

When I think of Physical Modeling, I imagine a super-slow-motion video of strings vibrating, like in kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb5nZdKfm6m3fGQ.html. Of course, what this shows is just a hypothetical string. Pianoteq mathematically simulates these motions in real-time, for real-world instruments, based upon the known materials, weights, stiffnesses, and so forth of the strings, and other physical properties of the instrument. So Pianoteq doesn’t play back samples or simulate the instrument *sounds* . It actually simulates *the entire instrument itself* !