Leaving New Age: The Melissa Dougherty Story

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Sean McDowell

Sean McDowell

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Why would a New Ager become a Christian? What about the evidence for reincarnation and other evidences offered in defense of New Age beliefs? In this video, I talk with popular KZfaqr Melissa Dougherty about her journey to Jesus.
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@araenasanchez
@araenasanchez Жыл бұрын
New Age constantly had me feeling like such a failure. So happy I stopped practicing. I was so broken I ran to JESUS! Can you say RELIEF?!
@cammyhackwith5941
@cammyhackwith5941 2 жыл бұрын
My husband has been greatly influenced by a hyper or radical grace pastor. I find a lot of his teaching to be heretical but he uses a lot of gaslighting techniques to make you feel bad about questioning grace. A lot of Melissa’s comments on manifestation reminds me of how the hyper grace teachings focus on over-riding sin or the need to confess. I would love for you to address this in your conversations. Thanks so much for your channel! It has been super helpful. As a side note, I was taken to one of your dad’s college events when I was in high school and was angry and hated what I heard! However, God used that experience in my journey to accepting Christ a year later so I’m so grateful for his ministry, and now yours!
@ahhitskatie9094
@ahhitskatie9094 2 жыл бұрын
Love both of you! Excellent conversation 👏
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear you enjoyed it!
@Cwood79
@Cwood79 Жыл бұрын
@@SeanMcDowell While I appreciate Melissa's testimony, I have difficulty with her putting Christians who belong to a Word of Faith in the New Age category. She does this on a consistent basis. The very idea that Phineas Quimby, a metaphysical teacher from the 1800's, is told by Miss Doughty as the beginnings of WOF is incorrect. That idea has already been disproven but somehow, she continues to share that narrative. If her facts are incorrect, how then is her conclusion about WOF considered correct?
@luamizondagh3620
@luamizondagh3620 2 жыл бұрын
Love both of your channels! Thank you! Such a great conversation! 😄🙏🏻🙏🏻
@daphniefarkas5703
@daphniefarkas5703 2 жыл бұрын
As a former new-ager and rookie apologist I love me some Melissa Dougherty 😁
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@skippy675
@skippy675 2 жыл бұрын
"Like, hey Scoob, why do you think apologists and theologians start with step 2 and ignore the fundamental question? Why is existence better than non existence. It makes it easier for a theist. Just define God as perfectly good, then his nature is inherent in whatever he decides to conjure up. God in the Abrahamic faiths never bothers to explain why it was better that he created everything instead of not. Is a small percentage of souls finding eternal peace and joy while the majority find eternal torment mathematically advantageous to no existence at all? Was God just lonely? Is it true that you are nobody until somebody loves you? Thus God could not be love unless there was someone else to love him back? Can love exist in a bidirectional sense just within the Trinity in its purist form? If so it could only go downhill by introducing angels and material beings into the mix. Whatcha got?
@fluffysheap
@fluffysheap 2 жыл бұрын
@@skippy675 lots of Trinitarians argue that the three persons all eternally existed in a perfect state of love before the creation. I agree with you that this doesn't really work as there is then no need for the universe. But I'm not a Trinitarian, so, whatever. No eternal hell either. As for why something is better than nothing... This is obvious to everyone who isn't an anti-natalist. But suppose hell isn't real. Now there's an infinite good if even one person is saved. The door is narrow, but it's not that narrow.
@skippy675
@skippy675 2 жыл бұрын
@@fluffysheap thanks for your thoughts. I don't subscribe to any faith in the current marketplace. What I try to do is reason through any and all of the claims that are out there, as well as any ideas for the necessity or goodness of existence I may have. I get stuck in the same loop. The evaluation of whether existence is better than non existence depends on one's view of the terms (heaven or not, hell or not etc). The rub is that we can't evaluate the claims fully without knowing for sure what the terms are. We can't know what the terms are for sure during existence because they are defined as unknowable, matters of faith. Literally, the best we can do is pick out the faith claim that most resonates with us and go with it.
@skippy675
@skippy675 2 жыл бұрын
@@Svetty00 very explicitly and intentionally, I did not. I asked exactly the opposite question. Is existence better than non existence? If so why? Read again and try again.
@dianenlc8284
@dianenlc8284 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ray Comfort has nailed it by naming this type of belief (New Age) as inventing your own 'snuggly, cuddly 'god' who basically let's you do everything you want to do. All about Self and nothing to do with Submission.
@FiveNineO
@FiveNineO Жыл бұрын
They're their own god. That's why new age and luciferianism are so similar
@biddiemutter3481
@biddiemutter3481 2 жыл бұрын
It's so helpful to hear this conversation. I think I make the mistake of believing that every 'new ager' is aware that their beliefs are different from mine. I see that I need to take more time to converse.
@accordingtobetty5035
@accordingtobetty5035 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I had very strong doubts when I was reading "The secrete", even though they quote the scriptures it just didn't make sense to me and then I started watching videos about the law of attraction and funny enough the more I watched the least convinced I became until I bumped into one that opened my eyes and I was so relieved I had doubts about it and I looked into it before I went full on that path
@laviniamasa7159
@laviniamasa7159 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😊 I’m from Fiji 🇫🇯 and I think we have new age worship here. I’ve seen books sold here by new age pastors. A great video.
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Fiji. I’ve been there and it’s AMAZING!
@kathrynknipe6615
@kathrynknipe6615 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I believe that understanding the moments when a person is drawn back to orthodoxy are important. The guest talked about the birth of her child. We can look for times when people are naturally drawn away from the woo woo. When life gets real. We can be there with even simple things such as grounding food. I don’t enjoy these conversations because they make me remember things I left behind for good reason, but sometimes God calls us to hear again and remember. Sending prayers. Grateful to hear you talk.
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kathryn!
@tinkerchristoferson7672
@tinkerchristoferson7672 5 ай бұрын
Great discussion. Thank you
@darrenmiller6927
@darrenmiller6927 2 жыл бұрын
What a great guy. His father saved my life with his books more than once. Apparently his son is very blessed as well, so happy for Josh McDowell, what a son - talk about thanking God on your knees for a blessing. And this young woman, super encouraging, powerful story. I just got calm listening to this, hypnotic, in all the best ways.
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thx for sharing!
@libertylarochelle8517
@libertylarochelle8517 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Hello from South Australia 🇦🇺
@cliffordnewell2445
@cliffordnewell2445 4 ай бұрын
Melissa combines brilliance and goodness.
@deevisel7673
@deevisel7673 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information.
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
You bet
@leftykiller8344
@leftykiller8344 2 жыл бұрын
Really powerful discussion. Thank you for sharing your story. I had a friend who described herself as Wiccan, but definitely had some New Age thrown into it. I was traveling through Oklahoma to visit family in North Dakota and decided to stop by for a couple days. Now, my idea on things is that I don’t judge what people believe. I can choose to not believe it myself and think they are wrong, without judging them as a person. To be honest though, the way she described the world was terrifying. She claimed to actively see forces of light and darkness, believed she had magical powers and such. Her and her friends effectively believed that they were in “The Mortal Instruments” series. Referred to me a “mundane” and such because I couldn’t see it. They didn’t mean it as an insult, just a state of being. Long story short, after a couple days (so as to not appear rude) I left and never went back. It was one of those things that, from the outside, I could tell they were messing with things they shouldn’t be, and I wanted nothing to do with it. I still pray for them, but it’s not something I could be anywhere near.
@francinemeeks3911
@francinemeeks3911 2 жыл бұрын
Albuquerque-WOW, I’m in Rio Rancho. Love both of you! Now, I’m going to keep my eyes open for you, Melissa!🤣
@sarah_alline6849
@sarah_alline6849 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sean! I’ve had the opportunity to hear you speak when I was in high school. I believe you were friends or at least knew my youth pastor (in Temecula) who used to be very Biblically solid. Unfortunately, over the years, he’s fallen into more progressive, new age thought and is into Richard Rohr now. It makes my heart sad, and I’ve been praying for him because he’s a pastor at a large church in Temecula leading the flock astray.
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
That’s heartbreaking, sorry to hear. Keep up the prayers!
@sarah_alline6849
@sarah_alline6849 2 жыл бұрын
@Gordon Freeman if it contradicts the Word of God…it’s not the truth.
@FalconOfStorms
@FalconOfStorms 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite superquiet audio channel.
@susanboccia6919
@susanboccia6919 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@priyarachel
@priyarachel 2 жыл бұрын
Love Melissa!
@maryannmccabe3648
@maryannmccabe3648 2 жыл бұрын
so helpful to me, still in the sorting process, after being in the New Age for 40 years!! Thank God He led me to a Calvary Chapel, the only way I could have come Home is through a grounding in the Bible, or I could have stayed in the confusion she describes for the rest of my life. Unbearable thought.
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@jahcal777
@jahcal777 2 жыл бұрын
Amen. Respect!
@MrFrogmon
@MrFrogmon 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my fave together again
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
Aww 😊
@glen6494
@glen6494 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@themicdropprophet
@themicdropprophet 2 жыл бұрын
At about 17 to 18 minutes into this video I had to pause and listen to it again. Melissa was saying how the spirits in the New Age seemed to be angered by a Biblical world view of Jesus. He could be an "ascended master" or "a son of God" but to consider him "the son of God" or "God in the flesh" unique from all creation, this would anger the spirits. This point fascinated me for some reason. @Melissa Dougherty if you'd be comfortable answering this I have a question. How were you able to tell it angered the spirits?
@margaret3785
@margaret3785 Жыл бұрын
@TheMicDropProphet I can’t speak for Melissa, but using Melissa’s questioning, I confronted my New Age “Christian?” daughter about her beliefs. I felt I was talking to another spirit. When I asked her what Jesus means to her and who He is to her, she became so angry and cruel in her responses, but refused to answer the question. Even the spirits know Jesus. For the New Ager who was raised in Christianity, I believe they know deep down something is rocking their beliefs and it threatens them and their new chosen form of existence.
@megb6820
@megb6820 Жыл бұрын
@Melissa I didn’t know you were a fellow New Mexican!!😮 I grew up @ Ghost Ranch (Northern NM Presbyterian adult study center) and lived in Albuquerque for another 20 years where I got deceived into the “New Age” etc. before moving to Alaska where Jesus used my daughter’s conversion and baptism to draw me back into relationship with him. I especially relate the need for better understanding of the spiritual dynamics involved. I’ve found some answers that are Biblically consistent, but once deceived there is so much caution and skepticism, which in some ways can hinder understanding. Still…Philippians 1:6 NASB [6] For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work among you will complete it by the day of Christ Jesus.
@timovesterinen3611
@timovesterinen3611 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I have seen many debates between christians vs. atheists, mormons...etc in youtube,. but very few debates/discussions with newagers(or nondualists in general). What do you think about the idea in your channels, how would that work out?
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
I’d welcome the right person to have that discussion…
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 2 жыл бұрын
Coming out of the dark light of New Age to Jesus was by the power of God.
@pr8951
@pr8951 Жыл бұрын
It would have been nice the questions in the rapid questioning would have been, 'how do you know that what you believe is true?'
@peterfox7663
@peterfox7663 2 жыл бұрын
Once you read the details & methodology of the "study" for ice crystals in The Secret, it's extremely easy to dismiss the entire book & movement.
@Saint.questions
@Saint.questions 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing.... that the serpent is doing the same thing *xxxxx* years later. How many find these experiences as verification of *power* . Wow.. thanks for sharing.
@skippy675
@skippy675 2 жыл бұрын
Sure our particular species of primate has no capacity for evil on its own. It's that pesty fucqing snake that leads us astray. Grow the fucq up and take responsibility for something.
@jkcrews09
@jkcrews09 2 жыл бұрын
What can’t you talk about is such a revealing question!
@paulklemer
@paulklemer 2 жыл бұрын
What is new age vs old age?
@jamestrotter3162
@jamestrotter3162 2 жыл бұрын
What is the draw? " Ye shall be as God."
@bella-bee
@bella-bee 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I’m so glad to find a new age video that’s still fresh, so maybe you might answer my concern, I hope so! And thank you I was into new age, so I’m very suspicious about it popping up in church. Last night the person leading the prayer asked us to visualise Jesus and what he’d look like, how he was there, looking at us, waiting for us, perhaps reaching out to us, or whatever. I once knew a spiritual intuit and she said “see” but don’t visualise, it’s dangerous. I don’t exactly know why, but I’m inclined to believe her. So is visualising Jesus as the image in my mind not a bad thing to do? Sounds like my invented Jesus for one thing. Can you say anything else about this please? Thanks very much
@makaynach
@makaynach 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Bella Bee! As a former New Ager and ex hypnotherapist, I would strongly advise against using those types of visualisations in your prayer life. They are occult techniques that open doors to counterfeit spiritual experiences disguised as truth. “We are told by some to visualize Jesus as we pray. When those into imagery and visualization believe that the "Jesus" being imaged in their mind is not just a image, but the real Jesus, even going so far as to dialogue and touch Him, then they have opened the door to counterfeit "spirit guides.' You might think you're focusing, on Jesus. You might have a real spiritual experience. But, when you create Jesus in your mind, He is not the historic Jesus of the Bible. He is The Jesus of your imagination, and the Bible warns about "another Jesus.' And many through these techniques have testified that the Jesus they encountered was not the resurrected Christ, but another Jesus, a counterfeit, "an angel of light" impersonating the Jesus of the Bible.” You can read more about this in this article: www.letusreason.org/NAM22.htm God bless you!
@fluffysheap
@fluffysheap 2 жыл бұрын
This doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Jesus said "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Matthew 18:20 Whatever your old new age teacher said, it doesn't apply to Jesus!
@ourtexasjourney1850
@ourtexasjourney1850 2 жыл бұрын
It may be different for you because of your previous experience. Good job catching issues and lingo that might affect your walk with Christ.
@patriciapification
@patriciapification 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@megb6820
@megb6820 Жыл бұрын
“You gleaned from it (the Bible) what you could to apply to what you believed.” 🤯
@donnawashington5834
@donnawashington5834 10 ай бұрын
Guilt can be seen as a form of self condemation. A low feeling comes over you. Because you have lowered your vibration committing some type of wrongful act...in which on soul level you are now feeling bad for. Its a very strong disapproval of one's way.
@bella-bee
@bella-bee 2 жыл бұрын
Crystals. I have turned my back on all that, but I was very interested in using them, hoping they would heal. I remember feeling force from quartz, and that could be piezo electricity, it’s how computers tick, and quarts watches, come to that. I remember feeling like I’d been kicked in the gut, winded, by a piece of quartz, and I get the same feeling from Wi-Fi, close to my body. Can’t hug my iPad! Very unpleasant, but I wanted to understand and was rather pleased to be sensitive to it. I thought this was some esoteric thing. Atoms do vibrate, that’s scientific, right enough, and a pure arrangement of atoms (a crystal) I presumed does too, and it was explained to me that we vibrate too, and when sick, we don’t vibrate as we should (really?). A crystal with the right vibration might be able to retune your sick body, make you better, like simple harmonic motion (remember your physics class?). Sounded good. And they’re so beautiful, and I loved that God made them happen because of his laws of nature. (Because of each element’s unique atomic structure they can only form their particular distinctive crystal forms, which fascinated and please me, and so beautiful) Colour and chakras were also involved. Ooh and don’t forget the high priest’s garment was studded with crystals/stones, to represent the tribes of Israel, so that’s all right then! What a shame to hijack God’s beauty. I actually healed myself. using crystals, and I watched a whopping bruise mature through purple to brown and disappear in 40 minutes. I fell in the shower and bashed my shin. That injury hurt like crazy and should have hurt me for ages, but the pain went. I was very impressed and thought I’d found something wonderful! So please don’t say these things don’t work. Ask rather what or who’s using crystals to convince you, what demonic power? Do not go there. Do not. I repented and got rid of them.
@mystrength5640
@mystrength5640 2 жыл бұрын
Gods love and Blessings to you! ✝️
@lolasimmons9152
@lolasimmons9152 Жыл бұрын
When someone says that someone they know or someone they know about is their spirit animal. Are they opening a door for demons to their life?
@JewandGreek
@JewandGreek 2 жыл бұрын
Melissa is terribly confused. Word of Faith has nothing to do with New Thought. We don't believe that "like attracts like" based on energy, vibrations, and frequencies. We believe that God responds to faith in His Word, and there's a ton of Scripture to support that view. In fact, that's how you get saved. (Rom. 10:9,10) I've done numerous videos on these issues. I would welcome a dialogue with Sean on what we believe.
@jamestrotter3162
@jamestrotter3162 2 жыл бұрын
"New Age" is really nothing more than old age mysticism.
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 2 жыл бұрын
FIRST COMMENT I'M EARLY ASFLIP AGAIN 👊. AMEN brother McDowell and sister Dougherty I really appreciate your Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏❤️👊. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@kellyschroeder2210
@kellyschroeder2210 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you that I’m not God. Thank you Jesus Christ ✝️🙌🏻
@bevmelban4997
@bevmelban4997 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on the Rapture and your thoughts about it? I am very interested to know. Thanks
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t, sorry!
@margaret3785
@margaret3785 Жыл бұрын
@Bev Melban Read Revealing Revelation by Amir Tsarfati. Very helpful.
@ruthtirado2750
@ruthtirado2750 3 ай бұрын
I really can’t understand why any believer would not embrace the word of faith! Although I certainly do see how New Age would twist those beautiful faith scriptures. It all boils down to following and obeying the Holy Spirit. But why desire to live a life without embracing and believing Gods great and precious promises and the price Christ paid for our healing, forgiveness, and abundant life??? God’s sovereignity ends with our free will. Otherwise, how could He ever have the fulfillment of our choosing to love Him? Hence, in His sovereignity, He gave us free will.
@csmoviles
@csmoviles 2 жыл бұрын
💖🙏💖🙏💖
@kellyschroeder2210
@kellyschroeder2210 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and great conversation. Wow, yoga and enneagram !! ?? Can be Christian and mistaken 👍🏻. So, on this kinda subject. Would be good to have convo or discussion about Halloween. After reading about SA and individuals stories I will choose to honor these peeps and not ever celebrate Halloween even “innocently” or put up decorations or hand out candy. Please look into it and have discussion down the line ….. 💞💙🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️🙌🏻👍🏻
@punchbowlhaircut
@punchbowlhaircut 2 жыл бұрын
Go Go Gadget Conversion!!
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, yep!
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 2 жыл бұрын
Why would a protestant become Catholic or Orthodox for that matter
@peterfox7663
@peterfox7663 2 жыл бұрын
"The law of attraction" taken to the new age lengths is absurd. But the general idea that we tend to see what we focus on is true.
@ruthtirado2750
@ruthtirado2750 3 ай бұрын
Apprehending Gods promises is in NO WAY CONTROLLING GOD!
@bella-bee
@bella-bee 2 жыл бұрын
Letting go of access to spiritual power…… the Bible tells us that the spiritual realm is his and the revealed is ours. I understand that to be the physical. The occult is the hidden. “The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law." (Deuteronomy 29:29) That told me yes it’s all real, but I’ve no business messing with it. I let it go, and trust the Lord that it’s his business. It has left me very worried about some of the things that spiritual Christians want to do, and I’m not good at discerning what’s really the Holy Spirit, because I don’t want to go into the spiritual realm without the Holy Spirit with me, and so far he’s not shown me, so I stay firmly in the physical, the ordinary. And Jesus is enough! To reiterate, you can have spiritual experiences without God, but don’t go there, it’s dangerous, and he tells us not to for a very good reason - he loves us. It’s all for our good. He also rates obedience highly!
@m76353
@m76353 2 жыл бұрын
its weird, i never actually knew anyone actually believed this stuff. thought it was just random stuff hippies and drug addicts mumble before they ask you for a cigarette. didn't know there was an actual entire belief system around it. weird
@joeypchajek
@joeypchajek 2 жыл бұрын
It's literally being used as part of the NWO, the UN basis many of their philosophies off of the New Age. People like Alice Bailey and Madame Blavatsky. p.s. Drug addicts are human beings, not drug addicts. Many of em are very smart and have huge hearts but got led astray. Many of em are less lost than rich sophisticated folk.
@m76353
@m76353 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeypchajek i'm not saying anyone is a bad person. i just didn't know drug addicts and hippies actually believed that stuff and thought it was just part of their hustle. and lol idk about that with the UN, lol. i have a feeling most people with money and power don't actually believe in anything except money and power
@John-Christchurch-NZ
@John-Christchurch-NZ Жыл бұрын
The lens you come to scripture with will determine what you see in it. The Word of God is not some magic incantation that gets you saved or gets you what you want, or even need. It is a description of a reality that exists - which is why Christian faith is about relationship. A live relationship with a living God. Nothing wrong with positive confession, but it changes us. It doesn't effect God.
@grammym8262
@grammym8262 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I pray for God's wisdom because it could be so confusing, so we can fall for the lies of Satan. He does appear as a angel of light to guide us away from the one true God.
@paulc7190
@paulc7190 2 жыл бұрын
are these apologists baptised in the Holy Spirit?
@lolasimmons9152
@lolasimmons9152 Жыл бұрын
When you have Jesus as your Lord and Savior, the Holy Spirit is given to you and lives in your spirit. God seals you by the Holy Spirit and there's no such thing as being baptized in the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is given to you the moment you say yes to Jesus Christ.
@jace76ful
@jace76ful 2 жыл бұрын
Ya satan even appealed with "you will be like gods." Notty satan. Bible is the key to exposing lies and falsehoods. I love it.
@jamestrotter3162
@jamestrotter3162 2 жыл бұрын
Joel Osteen = New Age teacher- " Your Best Life Now?
@JewandGreek
@JewandGreek 2 жыл бұрын
No. Joel Osteen is mainstream on all the essentials. Most of the people who attack him based on that haven't even read the book.
@FiveNineO
@FiveNineO Жыл бұрын
Reincarnation is real. Up to judgement day it's possible to reincarnate and "try again". But at judgement day time's up and the souls will be divided and only one group will go to the new Heaven and the new Earth. It's of course not at all necessary to believe this, hence the forgetting
@FiveNineO
@FiveNineO Жыл бұрын
Hell is still real. Some souls stay there, others dwell there for a while before they come to their senses. After judgement day, or the harvest of souls, if you are a hellish person you'll go to hell and stay there permanently. Just as there are many heavens there are many hells. Btw, there's no comfort in this for the harvest of souls is now
@JoshuaK537
@JoshuaK537 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a lot of emotionalism is running new age
@Mymle
@Mymle 10 ай бұрын
That’s so true, it could be past trauma that pulls people into it. I was in the new age / alternative world.
@YenkammaNe
@YenkammaNe 2 жыл бұрын
aBrahamic logic , Moses/Jesus/Mohammed believing. (Judaism Christianity Islam) is based on messiah hero worship. They constantly over hype their 'son of god ' to market themselves since there is no God in aBrahamic logic. Brahmic logic ,SELF believing (Sanaathan Dharma, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism) is based on Cosmic laws, Nature laws/worship, knowledge gathering, defining divinity as symbolism thru images, Stone dietes..etc Worshipping Nature's forces, elements, animals birds plants is a core part of Faith....combined with individual Self consciousness, self inquiry , self realization.. Nature/Universe around is manifestation of God
@sarahlaslett3279
@sarahlaslett3279 2 жыл бұрын
I think by your list of various religious figures, following on with various natural elements and finally "self realisation, self inquiry, consciousness etc you have come full circle to favouring/endorsing New Age beliefs. Aspects of nature do reflect God's glory but they are not God. They are creations not the Creator and as such should not be worshipped. I may have a fabulous dress on that does something for me but the dress is not me. We are to worship the Creator not the things the creator made. You set Jesus in a line along with Mohammed, Moses, Brahmin logic. But Jesus does not belong there. Jesus was God manifest. No other in the line were that or claimed to be that. The gospel of John begins with "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the word was God. All things were made through Him. And without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life and the life was the light of men." The Word of God is Jesus. If you are really interested in finding out the truth about Jesus please read chapter 1 verses 15 - 20 in the book of Colossians ( in the New Testament) whoch gives a powerful description of Jesus. Jesus said "I am the way, the life and the truth" You need to give serious consideration as to whether Jesus was speaking the truth or not. And whether you are going to follow your ideas or Him. Please consider this that there will come a day when you will stand before Him in ration to the truth.
@ruthtirado2750
@ruthtirado2750 3 ай бұрын
Yet you said you would have wished to know the truth at your church. Why would you want to talk more about the lies you were living? Speaking the lie just reinforces it every time.
@gimmeboobes
@gimmeboobes Жыл бұрын
That was one of the central realizations that helped me, as a Christian, to fully rip the mask off the New Age for myself and realize its true demonic nature. When you look at Scripture and its strong sanctions against such practices, when verses emphasize surrendering your self, your mind, to the authority of God, to put on the mind of Christ and allow the Holy Spirit to make us more like him, the message from all those things, those practices, make it about YOU. And when you go back to the original sin, and that was a key part of the first temptation, it all adds up. Also, as you dig into these practices and their world views, all of them not only seemingly focus on you, they not only take focus away from the Lord, but take on a dismissive, contemptuous view of Jesus, denying his divinity, his centrality and his personhood. And add to that, they all eventually get around to talking some kind of coming new world order, where humanity will shake off these old beliefs (specifically Christ) and elevate/evolve/transcend to a new reality/consciousness/etc. I think, in these times in which we live, those forces are becoming more blatant and open in how they operate "For he knows his time is short." I thank the Lord for never giving up on me. Though I gave my profession of faith at 13, by far the most of my life I was maybe the soles of my feet deep in my faith. And did not do much about it. But I had deeply faithful parents and others who never stopped praying for me. When I went to college, the LOrd brought some great Christian figures into my life and took my faith to a whole new level. But even then, there would be much work to do, some of which culminated in the last few years with some events in my life and encounters with the Lord. God never gives up on us and His timing is perfect. And gives us what we need when we need it, to draw us closer to Him. Praise God. Thank you, Lord Jesus.
@francinemeeks3911
@francinemeeks3911 2 жыл бұрын
Albuquerque-WOW, I’m in Rio Rancho. Love both of you! Now, I’m going to keep my eyes open for you, Melissa!🤣
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