Just to help others get this important advice I thought I'd repeat a tip commented by 'pipedoc fpv'. Don't charge your battery immediately after a ride! Wait at least an hour for it to cool down first. Giving it that break will increase battery life. Another tip I've seen on another site relates to the commented idea here of typically charging to just 75 or 80%. In the tip I saw it advised to do that but to charge to 100% every three or four charges. Apparently the occasional full charge further helps extend battery life by giving the individual cells that make up the battery a better opportunity to balance their charges more equally. (In normal use the cells can get out of balance with each cell having slightly different charges and that over time degrades the battery performance).

I have 2500 miles on my original XP. Battery is still going strong with no signs of breaking down. I ride in all weather conditions. The bike has seen 100+degrees and months of Zero degrees. I have easily hit the 800 cycles mark. I am looking for an aftermarket 20Amp battery for range.

I've worked on lithium ion batteries for over 20 years. Your advice is sound 👍

Thanks for the tips! My XP 3.0 just arrived a few days back. I'm happy with the bike but any extra knowledge is valuable to me since this is my first ebike experience. I love the bike! So I appreciate the tips! Thank you

Great info Chris. Thanks for posting.

That’s helpful Chris. Thanks for sharing your expertise!

Thank you. Such great and informative videos

Wow, thank you so much for this video. Especially the voltage=range. Bought the XP used and noticed the energy bar go way down as you go up a hill then go back up on the straight-aways. Really appreciate these videos. So mean that.

Fantastic video with great tips. Learned a lot. Many thanks.

I also use usually only PAS2 ((Aipas A2 Elite almost identical to Lectric XP3.0 step-thru e-bike) throwout my daily 8 mi ride, and frequently when flat cement surface pedal without el. assist, also no assist while coasting some downhills. I can go 3-5 days before the voltage display shows down to just above 50V battery charge left. We, e-bike riders learned from each other sharing experience. Lectric, its cousin, Aipas, and most of the other brands keep quite how to prolonged the life of the most expensive e-bike part, the battery. Purposely the e-bike brands are not disclosing all the good knowledge how to ride we the users share in order to save ourself maintenance cost, and prolong the life of our e-bikes battery.

Very informative video thank you Chris

There seems to be much advice on charging and discharging lithium batteries. Mostly seems like a personal opinion. As an old engineer, I like to see the physics and data behind any recommendation. Meanwhile, I will keep the battery fully charged using the proper charger and avoid deep discharge as much as possible. The best advice I have seen is from Battle Born, which builds RV Lithium batteries. Also, the purity of the components used for lithium batteries is the most important and is reflected in the price.

Also important for LI-ON cells to not deplete under 20%. Use the 80/20 rule. Charge no more than 80%, and don't deplete over 20%, and over time you'll have much more happier cells.

Thank you. I learned something new and it put it into practice tonight

Great video and good info on batteries

Nice video! Great analogy and explanation with the battery as the “gas tank”. You memorize those volt numbers fast when you are out riding and have range anxiety.

My friend didn’t even get a month out of his before it stopped turning on without being plugged in to the wall. He called and they sold him a new battery for hundreds of dollars. I ignored the “No Tear Off” sticker (LOL!) on the battery and found a fuse inside the flimsiest fuse holder I’d ever seen, but the 35A fuse was not blown. Turns out, the fuse holder itself is a

Great tips that are good to know, thank you.

Appreciate the information, thanks

This vid makes me want to tape over the bar graph on the display and just use the voltage readout because I gravitate to to bars left. But there is probably more useful info on the top of the screen that I can’t remember right now what it is. Thanks for the info.

Great and clear info.

This was very informative, thank you very much!

I just added the 20amp battery that Sunny Whitehurst has to my Lectric Xp 2.0 step thru. I was only getting maybe 20 miles on the 9.6 battery no more range anxiety.

Great tip...Thank you!

I have a lectric 2.0.. 240 miles... No power... I had just turn key off.. I used to turn power off first.. Then key to off position... I'm checking the connection from led display and power switch plus or minus minus . there are little wires in the connection.. Do they bend and not make connections ?

I don't know if you seen but lectric just came out with a new long range battery. Hopefully you'll have a review of it but I'll probably have it before then. Keep up the great work!!!

Watt hours is the energy or gas in the tank. If you are comparing similar voltage batteries then Amp hours is a good comparison. Some bikes are only 36V while 52V is also becoming more common. Using the voltage at rest is a pretty good estimate of “fuel gage” level but its pretty close to empty below 3V/cell or 39V. You should not discharge to this level hence the 43V recommendation of this video. If you discharge the battery hard (I.e. use mostly full throttle or assist 5) then both the range and the life will be reduced. As the voltage goes down your top speed or amount of assist will also be noticeably less. I'm seeing the battery greatly diminished after a couple of years.

Thanks for info!

Thanks. I was curious of full on my expedition. I had only hit them to 50.v before heading out for 25 miles. Back at 47v. With using pas 3 with some throttle out of traffic lights. Also unlocked. Was hitting over 30 at some points. I could out pedal in pas 3 if I wanted and really not much coast she slows down quick. Where the contral pad lies it's real easy to place your hand an not knowingly drop your pas lol. Otherwise I'm pretty happy. I'm in limbo waiting on the rest of items to ship too. Should mention I'm rolling the large delivery bag on the back atm.

All good info, thanks! I’d like to add if anyone out there is noticing their batteries won’t charge to 54.6v exactly it may be the screen, not the battery or charger. Both our bikes only charge to 53.6 but I checked at the battery terminals and it was 54.6 there. One person in a group I’m in was showing his screen at 55v even. I’m in warranty so I’ll prob call Lectric about mine. Another thing I’d add, and this just comes from several years experience with RC lipo batteries, is to wait at least an hour or two after riding for the cells to cool before charging as it shortens the life. This may not apply to li-ion but I’m thinking it prob does. Anyway thanks again!

Thanks for video. Thinking about getting these bikes . I’m 6’8”.

Thanks for this, very informative. One request, can you tell me the battry end connection type, and where I can purchase one of my own, in case I want to build my own battery pack for my bike, Thanks!

Great info thanks 🙏.

Great video, very informative. I will use this info on my Aventon Level. Why does the voltage reading drop and then build back when coasting. How do you know how juice is left in that case?

Very helpful, thank you

Good , good info bro....thanks

Are you able to use the spare battery after the main one is done? To get more range?

Thanks for the great fast info easy to digest. The link to Ali says battery no longer available . I just bought the step over 2.0 and am very excited with that said do you have suggestions as to which Chinese company would be best to buy from in terms of the max output?

Thanks man, I thought my battery was bad, turns out the readout sucks. Also important for LI-ON cells to not deplete under 20%. Use the 80/20 rule. Charge no more than 80%, and don't deplete over 20%, and over time you'll have much more happier cells.

Thanks for the information. I do have a question for you. Is there a charger out there that you can purchase that shows what the voltage is? I can not charge mine on the bike because of no electricity in my shed, and getting closer to winter here in the north. I know I could use a extension cord but not safe for as long of an extension I need.

EXCELLENT

Thanks for the info, what brand are the cells in your aftermarket battery? Thanks again stay safe.

Thank you!

Got a display cover that has volt numbers on left side 54 down to 42 and % numbers on the right side from 100% to 0....from etsy for Lectric ebikes. Once the warranty runs out on my ebike I will be adding a second battery just in front on the rear wheel area sitting low.....probably an extra 10Ah battery.

Great video...thanks

Manufacturers say usually the number of full charges, BUT afterwards the battery is just below 80%. Happened with my Prius. At 292,232 I had some battery but very little usable amps. It needed to officially be replaced. At 43V the graph of available volts drops like a brick. Prior, there is a smooth downward line of the slope of voltage. Remember, do not charge the battery below ⬇️freezing. Messes it up!

OK, so I have this video pulled up and a notepad open so that I can address each point. Starting with the voltage of a fully charged battery. According to this video my display should show 54.6v when fully charged. I have never seen that voltage. The highest mine ever gets is 54.3v and that is on a brand new battery using the stock charger. On the low side you say 43v is the base, but I have gotten my battery down to 41.4v on a ride and still had power. Granted not much, but I still had it. The energy bar. When your battery starts to fall below 48v you will see that the energy bar will start decreasing. So, if your voltage is at 48.1 volts (without pedaling... known as the idle voltage) you will show full bars. Once your idle voltage falls below 48v that is when that bar starts to lose blocks. Cycles of the battery vary widely depending on the amount of riding that a person does. Someone who commutes 15 miles twice a day will be charging their battery more than someone who rides 3-4 times a week and goes less than 10 miles on each ride. Finally something I can agree with. The more amp hours the more distance you can get... depending on several factors. As for what Lectric recommends they hardly know much about how their bikes work. Most of the time turning to the various Facebook Lectric sites is the best way to learn anything. I have a Lectric XP 1.0 that I use as my daily commuter, and as such I have experimented with various PAS settings, cruise, and here is what I have been able to determine. PAS 2 is the best level to be in for all riding. Seriously. My morning commute is 15 miles with in increase in elevation of 340ft. Using PAS and cruise control I can get the entire way to work on surface streets, and at the end my battery is around 47.4 volts. On my return trip 85% of my trip is on a paved public bike trail and obviously I am going down in elevation by 340ft. Today I used a combination of PAS 1, 2, and 3 in various areas of my ride, and when I got home my battery was at 48.6 volts. I know that if I did my ride in PAS 1 the entire way that my voltage would probably not drop below 50, and I could probably travel the mythical 45 miles that Lectric claims. I vary rarely use PAS 4 or 5 as they literally suck your battery dry. One point that I would like to make is watching the current. This is better when it comes to conserving battery life. In fact it was someone on one of the Facebook groups that pointed it out. Keeping your current below ten extends your ride. I actually try to keep my current below 5, and it has made all the difference when it comes to distance. In PAS 1 from a dead stand still your current will jump up to 8-9, but as you start to build speed and a cadence it will drop to 1-3. In PAS 2 from a dead stand still your current will jump up to 12-13, but as you start to build speed and a cadence it will drop to 2-4. In PAS 3 this is where it gets a bit tricky. From a dead stand still your current will jump up to 19 (which is the max), but as you start to build speed and a cadence it will drop to 3-4. In PAS 4 and 5 it jumps straight to 19 and you really have to be pedaling to get it down below 10, and this is why they take up so much of your battery life. Another trick is when going down hill do not pedal. Coast and save battery.

Chris, can you use any charger to give power or is the actual one from Lectric better ?

also, the closer you come to emptying your battery, the more stress you put on it. it's good to run these down to around 25% and then charge fully. kinda the opposite of what you were saying here. it is true however that charging from 80-100% takes more time than charging than the same 20% at lower ranges. Anyway, try to keep your batter above 20% and it is 100% okay to charge it fully even tho that may take slighty longer.

Hello Thanks for great info Couple questions. How do you know when you charge battery that it’s at 75% when it’s on charger ? Also does the battery from ally express come with a key as well … Thank you for your info , appreciate it very much …

Really curious how many battery types does the xp 3.0 come with ? I purchased my first bike it came with the wrong battery 48v 9.4 ah that doesn’t even go with that bike . So they send me one to replace the wrong one and controller . And it’s a different battery than the first . So prob persists they sent me a new bike and again a different battery. So how many does the xp 3.0 actually come with

im upset at lectric. i thought the bms was suposed to take into account leaving extra charge automatically even though meter shows as empty so batteries dont drop below chargeable threshold. well mine didnt even last a year before battery started dying off earlier and earlier till it died off at 3 miles. that bike is not the easiest to pedal without power at all. wish i would have known what you just explained from day one about the voltage cutoff. thanks for your great video.

Great info. Thanks

Chris- I appreciate your videos and information. I have a question/observation about third party batteries- with my Nikon and Canon cameras my batteries last about 2 years. I bought off brand batteries which cost half as much but they only lasted about a year; therefore the name brand batteries are a smarter buy. What do you think about the batteries you mentioned- has anyone had long term experience with them?

What do you recommend for transporting a spare Lectric battery on a trip? Backpacks specifically designed for ebike batteries may have an adverse impact on one's lower back. Panniers on the rear rack may work- but it is hard to find one with the right fit specifications that is also waterproof. One would also think that a hard case would be preferable. No panniers have any sort of fire resistance. Manufacturers sell spare batteries- but provide little support in helping the bike rider safely transport it.

I really like the carrier on your bike in the background. What make/model is that? Did it fit the rack perfectly?

Chris, I have a Lectric 2.0 XP and would like to upgrade the battery to the 14Ah, will the Lectric XP Step-Thru Spare Battery 48V 14Ah work? Great channel! Also what seat are you using on your ebike?

Can I take the battery out of the bike and charge the battery indoors if it's cold outside?

I’m thinking for buying a Lectric Lite e-bike. It’s a smaller battery AH as you know. But, the bike is much lighter to compensate. I’m also thinking of buying a spare battery to carry with on longer trips on the e-bike. Do you recommend alternating use of both batteries during my normal riding. Or, just using one battery for normal trips all of the time but, and then bringing along a charged spare only when doing longer trips? If it’s the second choice is there any special maintenance to keep the second battery in good health when or in use?

I just ordered mine will be delivered this week (December in Western NY). We won’t get ride time most likely until spring. Should we charge the batteries? Where do you recommend storing them for the winter? Thank you! Awesome video!

Get information also if in live where there cold weather do not leave or store outside

I have a question when you bought the 14.v battery off aliexpress one was it worth buying the battery two what’s the longest rang for pedaling and using power only without deal what’s the max rang do u recommend buying the 14.v battery

Great video! Question, do you find cold weather affects your battery when you are out riding?? Does it drain faster? Wintertime, we are bringing the battery's inside for storage.

My bike died out at after 12 miles today . Riding in 39 degree weather . Could it have been the cold? I started with a full battery to. And my batt said 48 or about . So is something wrong !? And is there a way after the battery is dead where you can ride it like a standard bike ? I had to push it home. Seems like my battery doesn’t ever hold a good charge and I don’t ride everyday at all.

Ok. What happened ? Will not lite up led power screen.. ? Quick connection plugs dont hardly disconnect..

54.6 ------> 43.0 Good info

I have my lectric ebike put up. I charged battery to full charge. I can not ride it in these icy weather conditions. So how would one go about using up battery to store it at 75%? Thanks for the great video.

How is voltage determined where the bike has 2 batteries like an XPremium?

Great video. What is the seat you have got?

Regarding your spare battery. How often should it be charged if unused, weekly, monthly?

As a new owner Good battery info. Also what's the advantages of wearing fingerless gloves ? My many years of motorcycle riding on and off road , I know if you go down your fingers are usually the first thing to hit the ground , along with your head.

Apologies if this question has already been asked, I hope you can help me. I did a lot of extensive research before deciding to purchase the xp step thru, and you should see my spreadsheet! I have never owned an ebike, but it's a big spend, and I wanted to be sure I thought of everything, but after receiving the bike today (yay!), it appears that I didn't think of everything. I noticed there is not a car charger available, and my sole intention for this bike is to take weekend camping trips. So, I checked their accessories options on the website and they do not even offer a car charger adapter, which makes me think it's not recommended. It is not mentioned anywhere in the manual, either. Can I use an adapter and charge this battery with my car charger? I've pulled up a few articles about ebike batteries and they say yes, as long as I have a 12-volt cigarette lighter, which I do, but I just want to be sure this will work with the lectric battery. Thanks for anything you can share!

I was wondering if there's a way of hooking low voltage light to the battery. Something you can trust.

@chris crossed question: Am I correct in thinking that all lithium ion batteries we see in electric bikes, cell phones, electric skateboards, etc... that after 1-2 years, even if you dont ride them often but made sure they stay charged... do lithium ion batteries age in some way that after 1-2 yrs, they lose about 10% of say their power, and you notice 10% drop in top speed, ie: instead of 22mph you might see only 20mph? Same similar question for cell phones, a new phone might say have 10hours battery life but after 1-2 yrs it loses something, like 10% so you might only see 9hours battery life after 1-2 yrs?

Hi Chris great 👍 info on ebike batteries 🔋 do you know what brand of battery 🔋 cells Lectric uses? Are they Samsung or China generic? I read the best brands Samsung ,LG , Sanyo last longer and are more long term reliable.

I just ordered a lectric xp lite bike, should be here next week. What do you think about this brand of bikes?

I want to replace the factory disc brakes and disc on my electric 2.0 XP. What would you suggest for those? The ones I have are so out of round and not true. Any help appreciated

I am concerned about these batteries not being UL certified. Lectric says they do pass "Lectric eBikes' batteries pass the ISO 4210 and UN 38.3 standards for safety" Can someone tell me if this is equivalent to UL certification.

Just purchased a 3.0 step thru with long range battery. No issues with battery, but how can you check the battery with a voltage meter? Me and electricity are like a rattler in a sleeping bag. Thx for the info....

I plan to buy this for my daily commute. Will the battery be ok plugged in for 9 hours while I'm out working? does it not automatically stop charging?

Hey Chris, where can you get the 14ah. ER Battery at a better price than the 500$ that lectric charges?

Any new recommendations on the step thru battery? Always says unavailable, wondering if u know any others please

... I have a question pls, do I have to remove the battery after each ride or is that if the bike sits for a long period ot time do that? Thank you

If I leave the key in the On or Power position and leave it overnight . does this drain the Battery. Thank you

People saying it doesn't matter if you charge to 100% and that it's more important not to discharge past a certain point don't know much. Those people shouldn't buy an EV car. They would be very unhappy having to replace a 15k battery after repeatedly charging to 100 all the time. That's definitely a battery killer. Simply read the forums of people putting hundreds of thousands of miles on car batteries every day. State of charge should not exceed 80% daily with occasional charge to 100. Depletion is definitely a concern but not nearly as much as the damage done by charging to 100% every day. Best rule is charge normally to 80% and do your best not to drop too low in general. I have a year and a half of driving 20k miles on my Ford Lightning with zero degradation to the battery pack.

Hello. Would you happen to know where I can get a new battery for the new XP 3.0 step through?

Is there an easy way to see what the charge is when the battery is not on the bike? Maybe which pins to use with a multi-meter?

This isn't being properly explained; he is using a 13S (13 cells in series) lithium ion battery bank. Voltage for a battery is listed as the median voltage of each cell (3.7V for this chemistry) multiplied by the number of cells in series (13S). This is a 48.1V battery. Each cell may not go below 3.3V (42.9V whole battery), this varies depending on the specific cells used, or above 4.2V (54.6V whole battery). If you are using a 14S battery (51.8V, often rounded to 52V) or are using a different chemistry battery like lithium iron phosphate then these numbers will be drastically different. For a large battery, like the ones found on e-bikes, applying too much voltage during charging (like charging his battery at 58.8V) or allowing the battery to discharge below it's limit will destroy the battery and may cause it to burst into flames. Make sure you don't mess this up

I have a question would it be possible to ride the bike with the battery on and charge it with an external Power storage ?

I'm very new to ebikes. If you have 10 seconds I have a quick question sir; if someone was running 2 hub motors and their combined max current from the controllers was 60 amps, and you used a battery with 50amp BMS (52v 20ah), what would happen? If you ran WOT you may trip the BMS of the battery and it come back on after a few seconds? Or something worse? Thank you!

So it's recommended to store at around 80% capacity, right? So what voltage would that be approximately?

Hey where did you get the bike gloves that match?

How would you charge it to 75% with the stock charger? Anyone have a video on how to make a correct harness and, what settings to use, to use with a SKYRC iMAX B6 charger?

Is there a faster charger that you can buy for a lectric xp 2.0

I live in Texas. Hot and humid summers. Is it safe to keep my battery in bike parked in the garage?

I bike 14 miles every weekday for commuting (3.5 miles one way * 4 (lunch at home and head back to work) and there are some sections that I use PAS 5 and try to keep my bike above 25 MPH to keep up with traffic on a 25 MPH road. On weekends, I average about 30-40 miles and mostly use PAS 2 on bike trails. Lectric said that PAS 5 was hard on batteries and could shorten the battery life. Is that true?

The seller is not longer there. Do you have a similar battery to recommend? Thanks for all the info

What brand riding gloves are you wearing?

Are the packs interchangeable across xp bikes

does the aftermarket battery give you more range?