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Too many people are missing how important being in the correct gear is for a mid drive. On that second test when JT was on the XPremium, he kept it in first gear the whole time. In 1st gear, you will only ever be able to reach comparatively low speeds. It had very little to do with JT's weight.

My wife has the 2.0 and when I ride up hills I use the gears the same as a normal bike as well. It allows me to help the electric motor to get me up the hills. I rarely use electric motor only.

A question about Lectric's recommendation to NOT use the throttle with gears 5, 6 or 7: don't they just mean when using the throttle to START from a stop when in those higher gears? I don't see why it would be a problem to use the throttle in gears 5, 6 and 7 while at high speeds. Something I remember Levi (the founder of Lectric) saying in an interview with ChrisCrossed, was that they purposely limited the peak power you can get from the throttle as a way to protect the drivetrain. Max power is only available in pedal assist.

The mid drive motor sounds like a lot more trouble than its worth. The hub motor is much easier and has less possibility of messing something up. The hub motor pulls just fine with much less headache

Thanks guys. I my self was never using the gears unless I was really in need. I’m at 600 kms.

Another worry with the Premium is the inability to turn off the battery like you can with the 2.0. Once the key is turned to activate the bike, with or without the key in, the bike will continue to function until both batteries are drained. I’ll need to double chain it to make sure it’s not stolen.

Great video. Very informative. Please record a video about range and riding on various road and trail surfaces.

I really like your video you guys get into everything you explain things really well you get into the knitty gritty thank you.

Super useful video.

I'm waiting for my bike to get delivered as we speak FedEx has passed me by one time I'm so freaking excited

There will be confusion surrounding how many chargers come with the bike. Other reviewers have said that the bike comes with 2. Having only one charger will be highly impractical. Being a low amp charger, it will already take long to charge one battery, and then you still have to remember to go plug in the other one. If they don't give you a second charger, you will likely have to buy a second one to make this work.

AFAIK neither of the riders in the speed and hill tests mentioned ever changing the PAS level when riding the XPremium. My guess is that the XPremium would have performed much better if it was being used in the highest PAS -- after all the XPremium has 5 PAS levels. The testers should have at least said which PAS level they were using.

I just ordered XP premium the date will be sometime in July and I paid around $2263 for a fully loaded bike all extras.

The bike came with slim put in. Can I add flat out on top ?

I still don't think this is a valid test. What gear was the heavier guy in when he was on the XPremium? I certainly won't be reordering an XPremium until a reviewer finds a hill that the 2.0 stalls out on, and sees what the new bike will do in this situation. This is the whole point of a mid drive, to climb the steeper hills a similarly powered hub drive struggles with. It is also my understanding that the XPremium will NOT deliver full power in throttle only mode, requiring some torque from the user before the motor will truly max out. Maybe you don't live near any mountains. I live in the mountains myself so it's pretty much all hills around here. I have found the 2.0 to be severely lacking and will probably be selling it. Using my driveway as an example, I gain about 150 feet in elevation over about 275 yards. My 2.0 is decked out with the full cargo package and a second battery running in parallel. It weighs in at over 90 pounds. I find myself essentially pedaling the bike up mostly under my own power. It just about kills me, usually to the point where I just get off and walk (mode) it up. It's actually easier on a regular non powered bike. What happens is the motor stalls out, only pulling about 4 amps while I am in PAS 5 with the throttle pegged for good measure. In this situation, I am in 1st gear with an 11-34t freewheel. I am not an athlete, but I am in reasonable shape and can handle huffing and puffing for a bit. I am guessing the motor is only pulling these amps because it isn't able to spin up fast enough, being that I am only doing about 3-4 mph. There's either a measure to prevent burning out the motor, or the motor just can't pull full amperage at low speeds. On my driveway, it certainly hasn't had the time to generate much heat, and it stalls out pretty quickly. I'd like to see the bikes compared in this situation.

The biggest questions people have are battery size.., Can a 20ah battery be placed in the back slot safely? If not, why have 2 batteries? Why not just make a bike with a single 18ah or 20ah battery? Why would anyone want 2 batteries with only 20ah?

what is the best solar generator for the XP premium 500w or 700w??

Great video, thank you both! I have the XP 2.0 and still on the fence about selling it and getting the XPremium. Te range is what is attracting me to it.

Although I have gotten some resistance in all fairness Drew from customer service is on we shall see I`ll keep you posted

I was very disappointed in the battery readout. I had both batteries fully charged and on the Premium it dropped two bars after 7 miles. My 2.0 battery doesn’t show depletion until 10 or 12 miles and that’s just a single battery. It’s worrisome and going long distance with that drop is scary.

Lectric does not give specs for handle bar reach. I am 5’ and still not sure if the premium will fit me.

Great video! Very helpful. Thank you!

Question is just thought of. Maybe you can ask the guys at Lectric. I'm a big believer in charging to 80% to prolong battery life. On my current ebike, I can do this easily. I can see the battery voltage and and I know how much my charger inputs per hour. So I just use a timer. Now, you can use this method on the XP 2.0 since you are able to see the voltage. But on the XPremium, how will this work since there are 2 batteries that may have 2 very different voltage levels? Isn't the screen only set up to display voltage for one battery? How can I know the voltage of each individual battery to then be able to charge by timer?

I have the XPREMIUM on order. I’ve ridden both and can’t stand the jerkiness of the on-off of the hub motor rigs. Annoying!! Too late for the Q n A session here, but curious if the Truck run has the same mount pattern as the Bafang M620. Asking for a friend 😈

Thanks!

Nice demo on the hill guys. I think the Xpremium is a great deal with 2 batteries and mid drive. The disappointing part to me is the 4 inch rims and tires on it. One of the big advantages with a mid drive is getting to have lightweight wheels that are much more efficient. Putting the heavy wheels on it seems like a poor decision. Still looks like a good bike to me though and many people prefer the fat tires since they do smooth things out a little. I think the ideal solution is to have two bikes if you can. Ride a lighter weight mid drive when you want to feel like a cyclist. Use a hub motor wide tire bike with a rack and basket for errands around town.

I have x premium the pedal assist is not working even the throttle too when put p 5 it’s like 0

Does it use a threaded stem or a quill stem and what size is the headset tube would be my questions. Thanks fellas for the excellent presentation.

I’m interested in the Biria S3… any chance you could do a review of that bike? Thanks! Great channel!

So, I get my xpremium but the crank arm is bent...new part comes in but they sent the wrong part (for an xp2.0) so they are sending yet another part and I have to take it to a bike shop for installation. So after a month and a half...no ride. BUT, I can not get the throttle to work at all. I put it into 1st and start walking it, but no throttle. It's dead. Do you have to activate one of the numbers (1 thru 12 or whatever) to activate the throttle.

Just received my Xpremium 3 days ago August 12th, 22. It operates normal with only the rear battery in and the front out. Maybe they made changes recently to this.

What's the weight without the batteries? I need something to check in on a greyhound. I can put batteries in a backpack

Bro, update your accesories list, almost all the suspension seatpost on amazon are unavailable... Thanks for your dedication!

I believe that the XPremium comes with two chargers. Actually I'm more than certain it does.

What is the % of the hill? Why last time the mid drive was slower than the 2.0 on the 8.2% hill? How can it be completely the opposite this time when they were both on 3rd gear? Can the heavier rider on XPremium beat or be similar to the lighter rider on 2.0 when both are on first gear on hill? It looks like the XPremium is getting its ass kicked again by the 2.0.

Will the 2.0 be good enough for delivery jobs like Uber eats?

Flatout is a better product to install in the tires.

not true you can run it on the spare battery only

What is bike index and how do I sign up for it? I ordered an Xp lite last nite I can’t wait till it gets here!

tried 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 nothing. yet another malfunction on this thing.

I am just learning the mid-drive bike, I heard you say that you were shifting as you were going up the hill but you were in full throttle so I'm a little bit confused if you're not peddling why are you shifting Now that's really going to sound stupid lol

Call me crazy, but I prefer the XP lite with an extra battery.

Is that the same hill you took the Aventon Sinch on?

Beware, I ordered mine back on May 8th. Still hasn't even shipped. They got my money 💰 for over two month. After a half a dozen emails, they still can't give me a shipping date. Time or even were I am in line. Very upset with lectric right now. 😡

Hardly a fair or meaningful test when one rider weighs a whopping 75 pounds more than the other. Man, it's like Laurel and Hardy or Spade & Farley there. One's a beanpole and the other is a linebacker. Sheesh! You need to either get a couple riders who weigh at least _roughly_ the same, or add a 75-lb weight to whichever bike Ryan is riding.

How to turn the headlights on?

How much is premium?

Did the premium eliminate ghost pedaling

what happens when you race up the hill peddling

Hey there I just picked up my 2.0 with cargo crates to start a delivery routine. Is the battery meant to be charged while in the bike ?

cool

Is there any baby seat options

Lesson learned - I don't need a bigger motor or better battery I just need to lose 50lbs and then any bike will climb hills.

From what i've learn about "slime" used on car tire is that its a sticky situation when it comes to changing tires off the rim and its a big clean up job to scrape that stuff off before you even put new tires on that rim. But looking at the bike wheel situation, i'm assuming that the slime is basically in the inner tube, now what if you say ran over a nail and it punctures that tube, wouldn't the slime be leaking inside your tire and rim?

You know what that new electric bike doesn't impress me much you would think with two batteries it would be able to help perform the old bike no matter what your weight is but it looks like to me if you're a lighter in weight the old bike outperforms the new one so really is it worth the money I don't think so

Did you ever get to 28 mph on either bike

For my wife this bike seems too complicated .

Starting out in first gear? Really?

YOUR AUDIO IS TOO LOUD

What you should know is ALL SALES ARE FINAL if anything goes wrong you are screwed DONT BUY THIS BIKE