Thanks, glad you liked the review. I think you make some good points there. I agree that a constant drone with less sudden changes to the sound are better for sleep. But still, I think it's good for people to know what kind of nature sounds they are - in this case, not the sound of an ocean that you might hear if you were actually next to an ocean. And with the battery, you're right in that there is the LectroFan Micro, which is probably better for travel because, well, it's pretty micro. But I think people like to know if a specific device has a battery operated option or rechargeable battery, so I've made it clear in this case. I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes to shipping costs compared to other devices of this size and comparable price to be honest though. Thanks again for your comments. You'll know from the review that I really like the Evo, so it's nice to hear some alternative thoughts on the very few criticisms I have of it.

You're welcome, and thanks for the compliment! I hope the Evo works out well for you.

You're very welcome! I don't think there's much difference at all. Maybe the manufacturer made changes to the speaker, but if they did, my ears are not sensitive enough to pick out the difference. Both versions seem to produce identical sound quality and smoothness to me, so I guess it comes down to choosing based on the new features and extra 2 ocean sounds, or sticking with the original.

Thanks! I appreciate the positive feedback:-)

Here are my thoughts on those questions - there may be longer answers, but these are my initial ideas: 1. The Evo has 2 ocean surf sounds extra. It has a headphone jack. And the shape/design is different. Otherwise, both sound very similar and are just as good if you only want white noise and fan sounds. 2. They are energy efficient enough not to cost a big jump in electricity bills. 3. Hard to say. Mine are still running fine, but people do sometimes complain they break in one way or another. It's the same for all white noise machines (and electronics in general) though, so an element of luck / bad luck is involved. But they at least feel well made and not from flimsy plastic like some other brands. The original lectrofan actually felt more robust to me, but I like the design of the Evo more.

It's a good choice, and I hope you like it. Let me know after you've had a chance to try it out!

@@nosleeplessnights1 Tried it last night & yes it seems to help but you need a headphone extension to stop the wires getting tangled and dragging everything off the bedside cabinet!

@@fenlandwildlifeclips ahh yes, if you use the headphone jack, you do need a decent length cable.

Is this machine also cancel vibration?

Hi axisludi. Well, I'm glad the review was enough to help you make a decision, even if the decision is not to buy it! It's important to me that my reviews also help people filter out products that aren't going to be right for them, so I appreciate you explaining why. It was also interesting to read your comment and see how you manage noise in your home. It sounds like you've thought about it a lot and have a pretty serious system going there! Incidentally, I'm pretty sure a 300 euro white noise machine doesn't exist, so you'd be better off spending your money on some amazing speakers if you fancy a change in the future.

Where did you find the brown noise track please?

Hi, I can also help answer this question, even though I know you asked people in general. In my opinion, no white noise machine is guaranteed to block out very loud sounds like barking dogs - especially if they are nearby. I think if it's more distant, and you put it near the window on a louder setting, you might have a chance of masking external noise. But if it's coming through your shared bedroom wall, for example, then putting the machine on a nightstand won't help much. Maybe if you use the headphone jack it will be better with decent noise-canceling headphones. But I wouldn't recommend listening to white noise loudly through headphones night after night. My advice is to try white noise on a phone App first, with and without headphones, to see if it helps before buying a dedicated machine. If anyone else is reading this, I'd love to hear if you agree with me, and what advice you have for mrnut123.

I called Animal Care & Control on my neighbor who would leave their dog in their house alone for hours to bark and bark and bark out of loneliness. The saddest, most mournful sound you’ve ever heard. And the dog was obviously barking loud enough to try to be heard by it’s “pack” - “Hey! I’m over here! Come get me!” Poor dog. Don’t get a dog if you are just gonna throw it into your $4.2 million dollar home and leave it alone all day, every day. At least get 2 dogs so they can keep eachother company. Or get one of those pet cams with audio and say something to it off site. In any case I called Animal Care & Control, who came out and fined them for leaving their dog alone every day, causing misery and suffering for the dog and the neighbors. And the noise stopped. As for the jerk who said to poison the dog if the noise continues, it’s not the dogs fault, it’s the owners fault. Call in a noise complaint. Anonymously.

I'm not sure Charlie as I'm not familiar with that purifier. Sorry!

You're welcome!

Hi, it can easily reach over 80 dB.

Hi, no there is no battery option. You could try the LectroFan Micro 2 which has a long rechargeable battery of up to 40 hours. But if you're away for several days with no power, you could try a battery operated device, of which there aren't really many very good ones. Perhaps try the Big Red Rooster, which takes 4xAA batteries. It's not as good quality as the LectroFan, but it's one of the few that take batteries. In terms of taking the Evo overseas, yes you can, but you might need to buy one with the international plug selection included (if they still make that version), or just use a standard power adaptor.

Just plug it into a USB battery power bank. These use very little power so will last days on a charged bank (I used one during the multi-day power outage in Texas). For the earlier LectroFan model, and I doubt they made the Evo use more power.

I'm not sure to be honest, but I suspect they are very similar. I only have the Evo at home right now, so I can't compare them for you - sorry!

@@nosleeplessnights1 That's ok, I'll do more research on it, thanks for the reply.

@@nosleeplessnights1 Would this be good for loud stomping from piece of s##t neighbors?

It's very hard to say. It might help mask some sound, but upstairs stomping neighbors are notoriously hard to totally block out. Perhaps try with headphones too - if you don't find them uncomfortable.

@@cindyrogofsky251 On the darkest white noise and some fan settings, this can put out a good amount of bass. Put it in a corner or next to a wall near you and it will put out bass to mask the bass from people walking above.

I have never noticed a break in the sound.

They don't. I'm very sensitive and have looked for loops in a multi-hour recording in a sound editor and found none. The chip doesn't even have the memory (16K total!) to store any sample loops.

@@gblargg that is some serious dedication. Also, that sells me on the product.

@@ryanjohnson4565 I used a Marpac Marsona for decades (true white noise generated with analog electronics) so it's an accomplishment for this LectroFan being better. BTW I use the full LectroFan (not the Evo) since it has a beefier speaker with more bass. I have an Evo and it's got weaker sound in comparison.

That does seem to be an issue with some white noise machines unfortunately. I haven't had any problems with any of the LectroFan range though, and they seem to be more robust than some of the cheaper ones.

@@nosleeplessnights1 ok thanks for replying. hopefully it'll last a long time, just bought it a week ago

Let me know how you get on with it!

Unfortunately not. I have a dog, so I know how hard it is to block the sound of barking. Maybe if it were further away or not so loud, a machine would do the trick. But not if the dog is in the room next door and barking like crazy. Your best bet is to either try it with headphones, or just use headphones or earplugs. Or...find a way to stop the dog barking, which worked for me. It took a couple of weeks to teach my dog the 'quiet' command, but I got him when he was young.

@Doomsday Signals I have the same problem with neighbours! 😩 I've been using the classic Lectrofan and it's the loudest white noise machine you can buy because I've had a few living in an apartment with annoying neighbours and thin walls! I find it's effective in drowning out noise. We have a leaf blower guy come and I turn it up way loud to drown out the fucker!!! I have to replace the cord in my Lectrofan and wondering I should get an Evo one?? Any white noise machine is better than none. Lectrofan is the loudest though.

@@monikavarro2020 This sounds perfect for us then. Our neighbour is a Pisshead Twat that drinks from 10PM and plays TV or talks on his phone till 2AM. I'll definitely be getting the Evo unit as it has a few more options than the normal one (my wife if is the biggest barrier as she believes she wont be able to sleep with any noise, so having as much possible options to sell this to her is necessary). Thanks for the help!

@@DoomsDaySignals I've just ordered a new LectroFan from E-Bay after spending the entire night awake! 😫 You get used to the noise from the white noise machine so your brain doesn't get annoyed by it. The cable went frayed on my old one and since then I hardly slept. I get a LOT of noise where I live. I haven't had the EVO one. I got the classic one again because it's louder. I read it 85 DB! I need that for where I live! I sympathise with your noise situation!

@@DoomsDaySignals Let me know how you go with the EVO model. I was considering buying one. Because the noise the white noise machine makes is constant, it's not annoying and after a while you don't notice it. Maybe you can tell your wife! I've never regretted buying one ever! I wonder how I ever lived without it! I get easily irritated by noise! I have neighbours who won't shut up! 😡 I ordered the classic model just because it's louder in decibels and my living situation is that bad! 😫

@@monikavarro2020 I am still convincing my wife. I plan on getting it anyway and even if i don't use it at night, i can use it during the day/early evening when I just want to relax in my room. I'll try and keep you posted though. Thanks for your help!

Hi, yes it has 10 different fan sounds, so hopefully one might be similar to your real fan, though it won't sound as natural. And the maximum volume is very loud.

Thanks!

yes, but people would hear it when you spoke.

I don't think it has an auto-off if you don't set a timer, so it will just keep going.

No, it's not possible. I don't know of any white noise machine that allows a speaker to be plugged in. I imagine the manufacturers do that on purpose as it's generally advised that it's safer not to play white noise too loudly.

Yes, it is possible. From the amazon listing: "...and a 3.5mm connector for headphones or a portable speaker to match your environment and sleep style"

@@lokanoda I stand corrected! Just checked the user manual, and you're absolutely right - you can connect it to another speaker. I think I must have been too excited by the addition of the headphone jack to notice that point. It's also something I've never used personally with other machines that offer that functionality, so it passed me by. Thanks for correcting me:-)

Yes it will stay on all night if you don't select a timer.

Yes that's possible. I don't know if all power banks will work, but I managed once.

It's rare to find them with timers for that long. But if you don't set a timer, it will play continuously, which then lasts for 10 hours.

No problem! It's just as important that my reviews help people decide if a product is not right for them:-)

Well, it's not for everyone. Some people just find it's relaxing and helps block out random sounds or sounds they don't like - that's the concept. And yes, alcohol also disrupts my sleep, along with irregular sleep patterns.

Thanks for the update, though the prices fluctuate on sites like Amazon, so it's not guaranteed to stay at 35.

Cheaper than the original somehow

CamelCamelCamel will track Amazon item prices etc.

Thanks for sharing your experience - sorry to hear it was a bad one though. It may be that you got a defective one as the sounds should neither be muffled nor the same. Out of interest, when you watch my video and I play all the sounds, do they still sound the same to you? That would be one way of telling if the problem was your device, because mine was definitely not defective. What was the other device you bought and also sent back? If you're not happy with the white noise machines, and are worried about wasting money and/or time on them, perhaps you could try a normal Bluetooth speaker connected to your phone instead and use a free App or KZfaq to play white noise. It might give you more options and control over the sound you hear. You might also find a white noise machine with an internal fan more pleasant to listen to. However, if it's giving you ringing ears and terrible headaches, perhaps white noise just isn't right for you - and certainly not loud white noise. Do you get the same negative reaction when you listen to recordings of natural sounds like rivers, rain, or waterfalls? If not, maybe a machine, or App, which focuses more on natural sounds than intense white noise could suit you better.

@@nosleeplessnights1 The Bluetooth speaker option is not feasible for me as I need something to play all day long, or at least for many hours at a time. And I don't have a good phone or battery for that. My neighbors across the street got a dog and they let it stand there and bark for hours. It stands at their front door and barks while they are out in their front yard with their kids gardening. It doesn't stop when they go in the house. It still barks while they are in the house and they say and do nothing about it. It is a Beegle or Bassett Hound type dog and the bark is shrill and howling. It's terrible. I am fine with white nose, or most I have listened to online and even the first machine I bought the white noise was ok (just not loud enough). It was just this particular model (Lectrofan). The white noise sounded harsh, no matter what setting it was on (besides the very first setting) and the fans sounded too factory like. I just don't think the sound quality of this machine is good. And yes it did sound similar when you played the sounds. It may have been more muffled because I played it on the highest volume, but still at lower settings it just did not sound good to me. I read other reviews on Amazon that supported my feelings on this as well. I found some reviews to say the Classic had much better sound than this Evo, and some felt the company "cheaped" out when making this newer model. I enjoy the nature sounds, but I found they are just not loud enough to drown out a barking dog. I am leaning towards just getting an Amazon Alexa Echo speaker, however when looking into reviews on those who had used it for white noise - some complained of Alexa chiming in at 2am constantly to leave a review and hounding people to upgrade to the paid version of the app. I am now hesitant to order one. I have looked into the Adaptive Sound Technologies machine you reviewed, but it is rather pricey. And negative reviews seem to indicate there was or is a problem with the machine breaking down after only a couple months. Would you say the Adaptive Sound machine gets as loud as the Lectrofan? Thanks for your feedback.

I understand - dogs are notoriously difficult to block out. I also have the LectroFan classic, but didn't think the sound quality was that different. But at the end of the day, the speakers on these little devices are always going to struggle to provide as rich and full a sound as we might hear naturally from real noise like a heavy waterfall. The Sound+Sleep device (I believe you mean this one - Adaptive Sound Technologies is the company who made that one and then bought out LectroFan a while back) is good, but not as loud as the LectroFan. So if it's volume you want, it won't be better. Did you see my latest video in which I test the volume of different machines? I didn't include that one, but you might find it interesting anyway. I also included an Echo Dot in it, and I like the speaker quality. But yes, if you rely on Apps, you might get a rude awakening if you haven't paid for the full version. Even if you don't have a good phone, you could perhaps connect a speaker to it and use KZfaq instead to play white noise. You can find videos with an advert at the start, but then many hours of continuous white noise. Just another option for you:-)

@@nosleeplessnights1 Yes. I don't see how anyone could stand to have their dog barking for hours. And it must be rather loud because I am across the street and it sounds like he is in my front yard. I like dogs, but I dislike owners who do not train their pets accordingly. No, I did not see the video with the Echo Dot, and I did watch several videos that you made, just not sure which ones at this point. I have watched so many on different channels that my head is spinning. Lol I had considered using my tablet and setting it on the bookcase with white noise from YT, but my phone nor my tablet get loud enough. I may just go ahead and get the Echo speaker. I feel it would be the loudest, and maybe I can just pay for the app. I will look for your video on the Echo, thank you for taking the time to chat and trying to help me with this. Oh, the other machine I purchased was the newest model of Letsfit. It has the alarm clock on it. I liked the sound of this machine better, but it was not loud enough. I forgot to add that in my prior comment.

The first one I got had a speaker issue that caused it to crackle and be quieter, but they replaced that promptly. I've since found several more at thrift stores and they're all quite loud when at maximum volume (this is their LectroFan model, but I imagine this Evo has at least as beefy a speaker as the older one).

Hi! Everyone has their own opinion of the sounds, and I can understand if you only like one of them. I agree that some of the fan sounds are very industrial, and I wouldn't use them for sleep either (some people would though). For the sake of accuracy, while some of the fan sounds do sound industrial, none of the white noise sounds do, because they are simply white noise sounds.