Thank you for the kind words. I'm a fan of many but not all Lee products. Most of the brands have a thing or two they do better and I think the best setup is a mix.

They're both great presses to have. But the XL750 has a lot more capability. It's a fine machine.

They really are good.

Thanks, Cleatus. If you want the scoop, I would say just go ahead and buy a LoadMaster. You won't regret it. There are things I like about the ABLP, but It's just a more capable machine that runs smoothly. The ABLP has a really slick case feeder, but everything else about the LM is smoother in use, and a lot faster.

. Thank you . Are there other questions yet unanswered ?

One of the challenges I'm dealing with right now, is that I spend so much making videos, I don't really get to watch them. The new Lee press is something I've really, really wanted to check out, but honestly your total-cost-of-ownership comparison and feature list pretty much told me everything I need to know. I was totally one of those "Maybe I'll buy one of these, I've got a good feeling about it" people you mentioned, and now as you stated I have the information to make a decision based on information rather than 'feelings'. Traditionally I've been a Lee and Dillon man, but there are just so many other presses out there. Trying to figure out what you need, and what the total cost of ownership is when making decisions like this is tough. I wish you'd been making videos when I got started out fifteen years ago.

@@TATVCanada thank Eagle Eye . He sent me the press just to get this kind of information out. I have not been very subtle about it , but I still think the loadmaster is the purchase to recommend . They've gotten so cheap right now at about $260 US . you have dies already the only cost that you're really looking at would be priming systems shell plates and a few Turrets. even if you turn out to be one of those guys who prefers single stage reloading on the whole it's really nice to have either one of these presses for stuff like fast brass processing . That may be the one task that the ABLP has a slight edge at. the a BLP is designed to be a little bit deliberately looser clearances , so brass just slides right in and out smoothly . For something like large batch D priming in a hurry , or brass converting from one caliber to another such as 300 blackout the a BLP is just a little bit slicker . But if I was just getting one... loadmaster. @260 bucks even if you just set it up for one caliber that you shoot a lot of , it's pretty hard to lose.

That's a good deal.

It's a Lot faster, IMO, bit I'm glad you have something you like.

@@GunFunZS kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fKdxh9CHmpy6oGw.html @6:00 this guys setup is what ill be doing. i use all those on the loadmaster already. just tired of the fine-tuning

Thank you. KZfaq hid your comment in the spam folder, so it is fortunate that I noticed it.

I have a Lee Classic Turret and have no issues. I think Lee gets a lot of flack for little or no reason.

Hornady makes good stuff, but you are genuinely missing out. Lee does too.

Care to do an informal review video I'm sure there's a lot of us at the reloaders network would appreciate your thoughts

@@GunFunZS I have never made a video. But i will give it a spin. May take me some time to figure it out. I will let u know if I'm successful

@@travispowell2471 go for it . It's easier than you think . The other tips I would give is try to condense your thoughts to some bullet points rather than a hard script . Get as much light as you can in the area that you're gonna film. And turn off every noise source: fans air-conditioner... everything. you can upload straight from your phone if you using that as your camera . If you try editing later , the first skills that just be brutal and cut out anything that is boring redundant or a pause.

@@GunFunZS I too say "go for it". If you are a millenial, make sure to remember to hold your phone in "landscape mode" haha. Don't want the big black bars on either side :)

@@Ultimatereloader vertical video is much more of a boomer move.

You can do that too. A drop tube is recommended.

I can think of two reasons. one is I think they were trying to make the press more compact. That is actually a downside. The dies are so close together it really limits your options. reason I think the main one is that they are trying to sell this is an upgrade from their single stage and assume you already have the bushings . So it's viewed not as an upgrade from a turret press but as an alternative . The third of the two reasons is that their timing system requires a rigid mount point that doesn't change . Has to be in the center of the press . Their current turrets are designed for much of the opposite idea, and works be incompatible.

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@@EagleEyeShooting - I was going to say, "There is a guy on KZfaq" !!!

@@EagleEyeShooting yep, and that would add ~$30 ish of parts and shipping to your initial setup, plus whatever it costs to make a little bracket for the primer feeder, but save $15 with each caliber you add. You still have the reduced # of stations to use, wonky ergonomics, and rattly shell plates, but you do gain priming on the downstroke and the shell feeder.

I've had one. Now if i can i type and print big text.

The Pro3000 kit ,or whatever they call it is basically this press with a bundle. Still not the best deal IMO.

@@GunFunZS I got the base press not the pro4k kit

@@XvREByrd3vX ditto. This came as you described.

They sell all the components by part number. furthermore I frequently see just a bear press or two of them as a lot on eBay for about 70 bucks

@@GunFunZS might have to check periodically then. Best I've found so far is a base press but no turret for 179 bucks

@@desertratedc9596 prices must be coming up. IMO the kit is a bargain though.

@Michael Wolff I ended up finding a buddy that had a 550 setup and he just gave it to me since he upgraded recently to a 1150

I should add that I much prefer recently made Lee dies to the older RCBS dies that I have or had. If you got a set with dies that are redundant, you will probably find that you want them anyway. I had a set of 9mm dies, then got the 9mm package of load master, and I use the dies from the old set I had for other things. One is only seating, one is used as a powder through die for .357/38, One is handy for just keeping as a decapper, or for using over the primer station with decapping pin removed.

Avoid unless it is nearly free.

I think that is an unrealistic way to use this press and throws away most of the advantages of it . It is possible . You can also be very sure of your speed and location if you push a car rather than drive it but I don't advise it .

A second point: I also disagree with your assertion about it forcing you pay more attention... Your suggested method forces you to pay attention to more things . However you have a finite amount of attention so really you are dividing your attention . One of the advantages of a press like a loadmaster is that you can ignore everything except the primer feeds , but there is a powder charge, and how straight the bullet is . Moreover all of those things are in a straight visual line from each other . Your attention is focused not spread

danietkissenle I think most people are interested in the way he goes over it

Thanks for the input. I'm not sure I agree that the learning curve overall is shorter with the ABLP though. I think the case feeder is certainly easier, but fighting the excessive play in the shell plates and all the wobble that induces to the cartridges in progress, IMO makes this press a lot more of a hassle. The float of the tool head is predictable, and I stamp numbers into mine for repeat positioning. However the bushings tend to back out at the threads rather than the rings, or a little bit of both. This undermines the repeatibility of positioning and is another little niggly thing to overlook. IMO that leads to more potential errors and at least as steep an overall learning curve. Plus there is the whole issue of keeping track of the extra operations like cycling the primer feed, and not partially stroking the machine to partly index.

Just like any press you get into groove after learning the ins and outs. The priming is just as easy with fingers as with the safety prime in my opinion but doesn't really slow you down compared to the safety. The good thing for the ablp is that some of us have had a breech lock for a while and already have a pile of the bushings. Which in my case I already had bushings and 2 auto drums already. The case feeder is a must have and I added the bullet feeder which I enjoy for pistol. My output was for the press and a shell plate, case feeder, bullet feeder. It was about 160ish in my head for the complete set up. no brainer for a progressive press

@@bradchandler6849 certainly believe you can achieve a relatively productive rhythm with ABLP, you slow down by having another manual operation . If you're doing good you're half as fast as a relaxed pace on a true progressive .

yes I agree but the safety prime is still a manual operation just the same. I would like to get a loadmaster but the cost is prohibitive to me as a retiree with a mortgage. The thing I didn't like was doing 380 and 9mm on a turret especialy the bullets with my fat fingers. The ablp has cured that and is a lot faster than a turret with the same prime feature. I agree with your assessment as far as price if you don't already have some of the equipment. But having all of it already the press price is very attractive and is an upgrade from a turret or a single stage. Funny how my fingers don't mind the primers but hate the small bullets lol. I still use the turret for large rifle applications and the ablp for 223. I definitely DO like my ablp. one pull one complete bullet.

@@bradchandler6849 you are probably a good candidate for the Lee bullet feeder system.