Build that collection baby!

Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate it.

Long branch my favorite 303

That sounds like a nice piece. Matching mag is a nice find.

Sure are.....

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

@@MilsurpGarage just got my first No4 Mk1 last week and waiting on a No4 MkI (T)...watched your tutorial on cleaning up the stripper clips...looks like I have my work cut out for me.

Not all magazines left the arsenal number stamped; that was often done by the receiving regiment - or not done at all. I can't say whether any British arsenal ALWAYS serialized the magazines to the rifles, whether they ALL did that (I don't think they did), or some variation of that with the British arsenals. As the practice during the war was to leave the magazine in place and charge with stripper clips, there was no reason to serialize the magazine to the rifle. But when that was done, it sure helped stop somebody who lost their magazine stealing the magazine from somebody else's rifle during barracks life periods. In war there would have been rifles from the wounded or dead to take a magazine from. I used to ask WWII veterans if they ever picked up and kept magazines from the rifles of casualties loaded and ready at hand. Never had anyone say they did, and eventually I just quit asking. Furthermore, during WWII, it was a regular occurrence for arsenals that were near each other to send shipments of parts to each other when one had a shortage. The Savage plant in Chicopee isn't all that far from the Long Branch plant - about 450 miles or something like that.

Interesting, is it still there? Post a little video of the spot and link it here.

@@MilsurpGarage There is a large pictoral history online for viewing if you're curious. I recently read that the last of the buildings were demolished a few years ago to make way for a new business development or something similar. Choices made by the city government, not provincial or federal. Just the photos remain as I've read. Think of it as giving Long Branch the Obama/Biden leave them for destruction treatment kind of like Baghdad and Afghanistan.

I’ve read that it did not matter for accuracy, 2 groove or 5 groove. What have you heard?

@@MilsurpGarage a lot over the years actually but no one has ever been able to substantiate a practical accuracy difference. Now there was one thing I read that said most (if not all) the actual T models were made on BSA rifles because they did have the five grooves. The two No 4 snipers that I have personally seen in the wild I didn't handle though so don't know the makers, I knew I couldn't afford the price of admission so I just admired from a couple feet away.

Ive seen them but only once or twice for sale. They were super expensive and totally trashed.

That mad minute technique always seemed kind of interesting to me. I’ll take a look.

Will Holly Nice, I love theirs.

Correct on the zeroing process; straight out of the Canadian pam "Shoot To Live" published when Canada started issuing troops the No.4. I am not sure about that stock being maple, given the appearance. I have had a lot of Long Branch rifles in my hands at the range; those have very good walnut stocks. But rifle parts flowed back and forth between the manufacturing arsenals.

Nice.

Not the easiest place to buy from......very strict and procedural.....BUT when he gets in a bunch of Enfields they are usually amazing. Get on the mailing list and follow the directions for already having your favorite FFL in his files and save the necessary emails you have to send in a template....then be fast and lucky. www.empirearms.com/ One (atleast) is posted right now...... www.empirearms.com/60L2466.jpg

I still see nice clean examples around from time to time, good luck. Thanks for tuning in.

The only thing more unpleasant than firing it is having it fired at you.

Exactly.

FYI, PPU just released a batch and pricing at the major online ammo retailers is fairly reasonable.

@@MilsurpGarage just seen that $269 for 200 rounds and they did a lot of the milsurp calibers too !!

@@crazy4milsurps Always thinking of my viewers!

@@MilsurpGarage about time they imported again. Ppu brass is my favorite

Parade sling. A gesture of sympathy to the troops, freeing them of having to blanco the standard sling until it was an acceptable white for ceremonial parades. Still seen today in Commonwealth nations with some infantry regiments, when the Colour Guard for the Colours carry the Lee Enfield with bayonet fixed in ceremonies like Freedom Of The City parades.

Yeah, mine is smooth as silk. Satin finish. Definitely worked on with some sanding.

Good question......IDK. Anyone?

No some have different out side ends

@@MilsurpGarage No, not even close to being the same. I'm a user/shooter/competitor, not a collector, but as one example I think the cocking piece on the first No.4 rifles was quickly changed to later versions. Button shape to the slab shape on your rifle.

Thanks.....didn't know what to call that "cheaper" sight.

@@MilsurpGarage Isn't it stamped right on the sight? The Milsurps forum is your friend if you want to know every single detail about the Lee Enfield rifles. It was indeed less expensive to make, but there are advantages as well. The earlier Singer still sight that were "click adjustable" by turning the knob were much quickly to adjust from one range to the other. Another point, if you use verniers to check the repeatability/backlash between clicks in moving from, say, 300 yards to 500 yards, you'll see that the movement per click varies. And if you're in a hurry (like maybe somebody is shooting at you), you might come up a few clicks short of aligning the lines for a specific range... or run a bunch of clicks over because you're in a hurry. These days, it is less and less important. Unless things change, quality military ball Mk VII ammunition has pretty much dried up. I weep that I didn't buy a lifetime supply of that wonderful Greek military HXP military ball when it was dirt cheap. I have about 500 rounds of it left (480 to the box in stripper clips), but that won't take long to burn through. I should offer to sell it in ten round lots to serious LE owners who want to know what their rifle is actually capable of when shooting high quality military ball... lets them have a standard to try and achieve with handloads, changes they make stocking their rifle up, etc. Anyways, there is no commercial load or bullet available for handloading that matches the ballistics of military Mark VII ball. Which means after sighting in at any given range with your sights set for that range, the trajectory of your ammunition is going to be off at the other range settings. Maybe not enough to bother you, and maybe enough to bother you a lot. So the best you can do (unless somebody has a better idea and they've never mentioned it to the LE world) is choose the distance that is most important to you for sighting in, then take your chosen/favorite LE load, commercial or handload, and sight in to POA=POI as your zero distance. When the front sight you have still leaves your elevation a little off at that range, put in the next taller front sight, and then slowly and carefully file down the front sight until you do have POA=POI. Refinish the filed areas with Oxpho Blue or a similar product to get them back to being black again on the top. For my uses, when original sights are required, I have my 1950 Long Branch set up so the rear sight is truly zeroed at 400 yards. The rest of the distances I know how much I will be low/high. Other guys choose a different range to zero for various reasons that I might or might not agree with - some of them score better than I do, some worse. If you love shooting at longer distances with your Long Branch, you can track down and buy one of the rear aperture micrometer adjustment rear sights that allow you repeatable sight settings for both range and clicks of windage to compensate for wind. Some are completely drop in i.e. remove the pin that secures the bolt mounting the factory rear sight, put the competition sight in place, and then replace the bolt and pin. Takes less than a minute. BUTTT... when you find one, it is really going to cost you to buy that accuracy. My Parker Hale Model 4 rear sight cost me $80 back thirty years ago; the last one I saw for sale was asking $400 USD for. A.J. Parker rear sights can be just as and more expensive... damned collectors (and my fellow competitors...). www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2015/06/IMG_0015_zps84866f61-1.jpg

good info Pat.....thanks

@@MilsurpGarage You're welcome :-D

@Superdude70 PPu makes a very slight rounding but no way near the original stuff...

@Superdude70 I actually use 50/50 on my rifles (S&B and PPu) it works for me but i mostly try to remember what rifle does best with one of two said ammunition .

Like the rifle in my Golden State Arms No 5 video?

Wrong. Not all Long Branch rifles have the top grooves. Many don't. And back 30 years, I bought a crate (ten rifles... ten rifles=one infantry section) of unissued Long Branch rifles. 93L through 95L serial numbers. Not a single groove in any of the handguards.

Got it. Thanks.

Otherwise known as the "crow's foot".

Long....branch?

It’s a five groove I believe.

Wrong. Six groove Long Branches are rare as unicorn foreskins. If you have a hard time accepting that, tell your source of that information to go over to the Milsurps forum to tell the collectors and former arsenal gun plumbers that hang out there that every Long Branch from 1949 onward had a six groove barrel. I purchased a crate of ten Long Branch Rifles 30 years ago, all 1950 manufacture with 93L through 95L serial numbers. Not a single six groove barrel among them. All five groove barrels.

@@MilsurpGarage Six grooves are rare, and don't go with any specific manufacturing year as your misguided advisor believes they were. Five grooves were the most common as best I remember, and lots of two groove. During the War, the arsenals building the No. 4 rifles regularly sent shipments of parts back and forth of some of the parts. Barrel shipments were among the most common. Long Branch shipped a lot of parts to Savage who build the Lend Lease No. 4 rifles, probably because they were close in location and it's hard to torpedo a rail car loaded with parts moving between cities that aren't an ocean apart.

@@AirborneMOC031 the 6 groove barrels aren’t rare at all. I had two 1950 C No.4 Mk1* rifles, and both had the 6 groove barrels. The local rangers had a quite a few 1949 and 1950 dated rifles, which I was fortunate enough to examine. Probably around one in three were 6 groove, with most of them being from 1950.

@@jusportel I bought two cases of Long Branches from Districorp in the early 1990's, about 1992; that's 20 rifles in all. They were all 1950 manufacture, new and unissued, 93L and 95L serial numbers. Not one of them had a six groove barrel; the s/n's were random through that range. I have seen very, very few six groove Long Branch rifles in 50 years of DCRA competition. We did some exercises with the Rangers, but I never bothered checking out the grooves in their barrels. I don't go looking for them, but I am always mindful about them because they are talked about as though a six groove barrel is the epitomy of grouping ability. The Long Branch Unicorn. If any of that were true, the really serious competitors at the top of the ladder would have all sourced and be using six groove barreled rifles. All the rifles I purchased turned out to have five groove barrels, neither two groove or six groove barrels were found. This (and what I have heard, for whatever that second hand information is worth) is why I believe they are relatively rare. Collectors prize them because... well, they're hard to find to collect. I mostly pay attention to how well the rifle groups. Or not. That doesn't seem to have any relevance to how many grooves are in the barrel as I've found so far.

If my comments about the rifle offended you then Trudeau must REALLY be on the shit list! He wants to melt them all.

You will certainly be able to find one out there, but be aware it might need some minor fitting. May have to get a professional involved.

You will certainly be able to find one out there, but be aware it might need some minor fitting. May have to get a professional involved.

Savage Steven's built their own No 4 rifles for UK lend lease, they did not build No4's for Canada, Long Branch Arsenal in Toronto built No 4 rifles in Canada for UK and Canada. Around early 1943 Savage completed the UK contract and many of the remaining components and parts were shipped to Long Branch for assembly into Canadian manufactured rifles.

Long Branch Arsenal is in Canada where the C No4 Mk1* were built. Savage built rifles were all marked US Proprty!

The latter two comments are quite correct. In addition mk7 ball ammunition charged with ball powder as opposed to cordite was manufactured in Canada. Although this was toward the end of ww2.

How far is 900 meters in yards?

My Canadian history is definitely fuzzy……real fuzzy.

Cadillac was not Rolls Royce. They were gas guzzling, big, heavy, plastic fake wood dashed, couch bench seat GM overindulgence. That's the No. 4

@@MilsurpGarage 🤣 100% right!!

It's almost like the opinion of the Kraut losers who carried the dilettante prissy rifle and prissy caliber that lost to Lee Enfield rifles in not just one, but TWO world wars! The one that barely changed in design from 1900 to the last war it finished last in. Last place in the Boer War to last place in WWII... yet again. And while the .303 British cartridge and No.4 continued to serve well after the Heinies were defeated yet again in WWII, well into the Gulf War and beyond in some countries, the Kraut 8mm got kicked to the curb... after being dropped in surrender. Say there Fritze, remember when the surrendering/retreating Boche told their commanders that they were stopped by massed machine gun fire? Except it wasn't automatic fire: it was superior soldiers with a superior rifle and superior caliber, that could put 22+ rounds on an 8" square target in one minute at 200 yards, standing. Ever see a Boche who could put 22 rounds on target in one minute using the Kraut's prissy rifle and cartridge, Fritz? (Not counting shooting unarmed civilians lined up in front of a trench from a few feet away, of course, as "reprisals") No, you haven't. And nobody else has seen a Kraut soldier and Kraut rifle able to match Brit soldiers with those rifles either. Nice of you to take the special effort you did to come here to remind us of who the winners and the pathetic losers are.

I bought a wireless mic since this video so you will be happy to know my mumbling is much louder now. Doesn't help with the boring factor unfortunately. Seriously, some of my videos are more mumbling and boring than others. Try another before writing my channel off......

Aren't you such a special waste of skin and rations that you believe that the entire world was just sitting here waiting for you to make that pronouncement. Tell us "dude"/Birthing Person, where can we find your KZfaq videos on these or any other rifles that you want to share besides that magnificent expression of your opinion?

@@MilsurpGarage I would suggest that you write off that oxygen thief of a viewer off instead.