and then some. Great post dude.

Kain : Janos Audron... the Legendary Vampire of Ancient days? Pffft

Yea Kains kind of an asshole, that was established from the word go

Kain was and is still an asshole but I don't hate him.

Blood reaver

Funny he turns into a a dog

@@smoking1212 Its wolf form, kain could do it as well in the game.

@@Jordan-vr7ip Yeah, I think that's just typical vampire kit.

@@smoking1212 I think this was a jab, much like Drakula did- dogs, as in servants, while wolves are free predators... That kind of thing

A gruesome and terrifying death no doubt.

@@kuunami So long as it isn't you

Was he arrogant or angry? Best video game story ever. LOK and Resident Evil came out and there weren’t any other good games for almost a year.

@@keloebarnes3738 Definitely angry and maybe bitter at Moebius for altering his fate and tricking him but I think that helped to fuel his arrogance

Only thing that changed was whatever idealism he had left when Moebius used him as the catalyst for his genocide

Kain had absolutely no respect for Vorodor, ever. It's obvious in this scene what his thoughts were. He served only his ambition and throughout everything that never changed. When he's forced to kill Raziel is probably the most human you ever see him act in the entire series. Which is brilliant btw, when you look at his face in Sr1 intro 'cast him in' he clearly took no joy in that, a masterclass in framing

I always loved how that game finally showed us what kept Malek.

Moebius that time streaming rat.😠

Moebius is my favourite he was pretty badass and knew everything that was gonna happen like a thousand years before and even when he die he dies like a badass because he literally knows nothing can stop him but Raziel

He was the definition of "neutral", he himself says he only preys on humans to feed, and dont get in their business...and we learned in Soul Reaver 2 that the reason for him to kill the Circle was in revenge for what they did to Janos.

My philosophy also

ljklmoiaoklml ljkajksjdklfma if you know what’s going to happen that isn’t really bad ass. I don’t think he knew how he was going to die because Raziel was a variable couldn’t factor in.

looool @@SamuelBlack84

Even with Mobius's staff (which was able to hold down the legendary Janos), Vorador managed to kill a lot of his hunters when they fought him.

@@Jose-se9pu No wonder, they were nowhere near as good as Sarafan Knights. Hunters used much more technological advanced approach, while knights - inquisitors had to deal with vampires in close combat. And of course Vorador was one of the most powerful vampires, that walked the Nosgoth`s soil... And he was much older by the time of Ctizen Army. He trained and killed for thousands of years... I`d be pissed, if went down, like a punk :) like i was, when Witchking of Angmar and his pals did against first Aragorn, and then Eowyn... What the Hell were they doing in the time, they were Wraiths? Playing scrabbles?

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@@Shalkar Kain casts Spirit Death *The Elric Brothers have left the chat*

@@BestWayKilla 🤣🤣🤣

Indeed pure vampires like Janos look like angels(and propably behave like angels) and their enemy the Hylden look like demons and behave like demons. However Raziel as a vampire and an ex human is noble and is good and i have read a noteworthy comment that the fact that raziel grew wings makes a kind of relation to Janos because Janos had also wings and was noble and good. And in soul reaver 2 how did Janos know Raziel and told him "my child what they have done to you? " ?

Probably, the ancient vampires seem to be peaceful, refined and such, until their god betrayed them. The human vampires are more like children of violence, with human beings being their prey, the hunters, and the new circle wanting to take the pillars from them, they were forced to a less elegant life and thus a less benevolent behaviour.

@@powerincarnate6783 I think you're all overestimating how black and white the morality of the game is; The Vampires essentially sealed the Hylden in hell because they refused to die. Effectively, the Vampires were a bunch of religious zealots who would have killed the Hylden if they could, all in the name of their god (The Elder God). As for Raziel being good, remember that as a vampire, he probably committed untold cruelties while persecuting humans during his millenia of service to kain. Remember that the world was already covered in smoke, with humans tolerated for sport and as cattle. His awakening is less a case of "wow, we were evil" and more "fuck those guys, how dare they betray me." Not until SR2 does he begin to be motivated by more than vengeance, ironically both by the Elder God's prime tool - Mobeius - being such an obviously slimy bastard that it left Raziel questioning the righteousness of The Elder's cause, and by meeting his past self, in which Raziel realised that he was, and always has been, a 'self righteous fiend'. Really, Raziel is the tragic Greek hero, a creature who forces his way along his story, but one who, for all his powers, is undone by his shortcomings. His success comes in being, rather than undone by rage, or himself (the reaver), elevating himself beyond destiny by accepting it, and sacrificing himself willingly.

Well, yes. The ancient vampires were noble and probably many of them were very peaceful and wise (but I still think Janos was probably just incredibly good and kind for any race). But remember, the vampires started the war instigated by their god who hates the Hylden for their refusal of the wheel. The Hylden only became very Deakin like after eons in the demon dimension where the vampires sent them, and, in turn, the vampires became monsters because of the blood thirst the Hylden gave them. The turned vampires always had the blood thirst, so unlike the elders they knew nothing else. But they weren't all so bad either. Most of Vorador'a vampires (pretty much like himself) only approach humans to eat and mostly left them alone. Vorador hates mankind for all they have done. In words of Janos "he has suffered much. He cannot forgive them". And even then, Vorador only attacks the circle after the seraphan killed not only his vampire children, but his master, Janos Audron. And tell me, don't you enjoy their deaths after seeing how the seraphan took down Janos?

@@alessandroguarrera2203 the Elder God was the real villain because he manipulated the Hylden and Vampires into conflict, plus he was also a false, selfish god who lied about his relationship to the souls, pretending that he was purifying them, when he was only feeding on them, and "wiping" them so they would remain in perpetual ignorance of what he was actually doing. Both the Vampires and the Hylden were actually a threat to him, because their longevity allowed for the possibility of them figuring out the ruse and coming after him. The Elder God is in essence, an extra-dimensional apex predator that farms lower life-forms, thus limiting their potential. It is telling that the Elder Gid gets "bigger," thus betraying its lack of divinity, and as it does, Nosgoth decays.

"What did you do with this...? OH MY GOD...!!!"

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Dude has acute sensors - he smelled that the ring was made from tooth and blood mixed. I'd say Kain is a genius of explanation.

Kind of makes it even creepier that the elder Kain wears it as his earring.

@@markgresch9944 BDSMVorador was his ideological daddy, ofc he would wear it as an earring.

Skyrim Dawnguard vampires can't even touch the ones from Morrowind let alone from other series.

Amen brother! And these ones best of all don't sparkle! I always did fin the way they suck blood from like 6 feet away tho

Ugh, don't fucking get me started on Vampirisim and the Elder Scrolls. I can, and have, ranted about that particular brand of mediocrity ad nauseam.

@@FilthyNobeard yea, and not to mention the part of a half-vampire or a full fledged by birth. In LOK Vampire can't reproduce by fertility because they're cursed with not only bloodthirst, but also Sterility, and the only way they can create vampire children is by spreading their blood in the victims of their choosing.

@@CamSiv996 Vampires in Legacy of Kain use necromancy to make vampires.

yeah he's like patrick bateman from american psycho in the card scene

It's wonderful how Kain later realises the depth of consequence that the killing of the guardians unleashed, when at the time he first learned about it he was bored and not paying attention

@@josephmueller3752 "Let's see Paul Allen's revenge on the circle of 9"

Agreed

have you seen the sarafan from soul reaver 2?

gooby pls

"CALL YOUR DOGS! They can feast on your corpses!" Great character and line.

@@wildebur "(...) I`ll hack you from crotch to gizzard, and feed what`s left to your brides!"- part of me wishes, he did :) that line was pretty badass as well, and shame it was wasted. I am still looking for a way to include it in my life XD

we did see Raz kill them in the past after that kain just raided their tombs and vamped tier corpses.

It would be a short game. All that happened was Kain raided a Serafan tomb and raised himself some lieutenants.

There was a fan game called Prodigal Sons showing the fledgling Raziel and his brothers fighting a war against Vorador and his vampire army for control over Nosgoth

as a pillar guardian he is no ordinary human warrior.

indeed hes quite the accomplished paladin. and with his soul fused to that armor he "almost" invulnerable.

@@MrSeanqueef late reply, he he. in the first scene hes still human. its in the next one where he is fused.

Remasters re shitty. To many mediocre publishers and programmers look what happened to Warcraft 3 T.T

The game is too old for a remaster. The assets aged way too much, merely upscaling them ain't gonna do jack. The game would need a full on remake treatment to look presentable in 2020 and beyond, and remaking this game from scratch would cost as much as any other modern open world game. That's a lot of money Square-Enix ain't gonna take a risk with.

@@TheKain202, unfortunately you're correct. All of these companies now a days don't wanna take the chance on new I.P., but if there's any chance at all it'll fail they won't touch that either. So big, but so scared

@@Shalkar Also Blood omen 1 is in copyright hell which is why all the others are on steam and GOG but not it.

@@Lunarice98 I didn't realize that. Oh God. Now I'll wait to Google that until I need something to help me work out lol

Great Helm explain?

eh. Vorador toyed with malek. He defeated malek later on with his powered up armor form. raziel being there to stall malek only meant vorador could mop up the other 6 much quicker.

wuffy ah understood. Defiance explains malek being delayed?

soul reaver 2. In BO1 vorador defeats malek 2x and has no trouble doing so. malek gets 1 shot in, and after that vorador becomes a wolf and defeats him. If malek was able to over power vorador, then moebius wouldn't have been required later.

Gumba Gumba, Raziel opened the entrance to the Sarafan Keep using the Reaver, killed most of the Sarafan guard on duty, and stalled Malek from protecting the six Circle guardians.

True it looks rough in comparison to what the kids are used to today. But what the kids of today don't have is the kind of amazing storytelling that we had in games.

Back in the day, we knew it was cgi was ugly as heck, but we were also aware of the consoles ´ limitations, and we were thankful for at least having games in 3D. So we put up with all the ugliness for the sake of playability and /or compelling stories.

It was the beginning of 3D games, what ya expect? Didn’t take them long to improve it.

@@RamenReignss it wasnt a complaint, my guy. it was a nostalgic comment.

@@namekman01 yeah I know. I didn’t mean any disrespect.

Vorador is such hot shit that all things fall before him.

I figured that perhaps they needed time to prepare their spells and couldn't react fast enough to face Vorador. I imagine the circle was more effective while all 9 were present so that might be one reason why they couldn't handle Vorador. Especilly since their most powerful, Mortanius, wasn't there. Still, Vorador was stated to being able to kill any of Kain's mutated sons without use of the enviourment(like Raziel did) so it's not that inconceivable if you think about it.

very late answer, but the LOK franchise is one big time traveling menace. when vorador was attacking the circle, raziel was taking on his former self and his sarafan brothers. malek was preoccupied by moebius at that same time. moebius ofcourse having raziel troubles. so basically, vorador was incredibly lucky that raziel was doing the dirty work by taking out the defense line of the circle; the elite sarafan members. and no, the circle was not comprised of strong warriors at all. their vurnerability was the reason why they were forced to sponsor the sarafan war; the sarafan promised them protection.

Vorador is much older than the Circle of Nine. He was a swordsmith to the Ancients. He was apprenticed to those who wrote the book on the magic the human guardians were using. It makes sense that he could take them to the cleaners.

Antichrist2000 Remember Moebius' Staff, that disabled any kind of vampire, even one as old and powerful as Janos.

After Soul Reaver 2, I actually felt bad for him...another victim of Mobius.

Malek had such a fucking awesome voice. Total badass. Reminds me of the voice of shang tsung from mk defenders of the realm if anyone watched it

@@Jose-se9pu He still murdered innocent vampires at Moebius' say so.

I hate him, yes. But not nearly as much as I hate Moebius

@@KatherinaBathory Funny thing is that Mobius was manipulated in a way he was manipulating others. Great storytelling ngl.

Would you say so long that you've forgotten how many times you've flipped that very same coin?

if it weren't for spells, moebius would have been strung up like a weasel in about three seconds

infernalone666 Yea I know, but it would have been interesting to see, it seems vorador didn’t want to risk it which was why he resorted to spells against malek.

Close combat was Malek`s forte after all- he lived to kill enemies with his glavie and sword, he was chosen as a Conflict Pillar Guardian for a reason. But while we can scream "unfair"- and i would understand that- we have to remember, that vampires went with their change into monster EXACTLY because they wanted to be able to do more than humans... What would be the point, if you`d still limit yourself? Still, i tip my hat to Malek. He was a fanatic, but still capable knight, beyond imagination...

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i wonder if the in-game textures and graphics can be also upscaled, and call it remaster.

Ost = Original SoundTrack, basically music that is unchanged in the original game.

This track was never released

It was never stated. He was defeated. The end.

He only defeated him. Literally had Malek on his feet but suddenly Vorador choose to teleport away.... Leaving him lying there, defeated and shamed.

@@GanteSpruce watch 5:20-5:48

no vorador doesnt wield the reaver but his sword has a very reaver like design

Konoko2000 thank you for the answer

Konoko2000 thats because Vorador was the one who forged the Reaver in the first place. For that, Janos gifted him with inmortality. Maybe he wanted a very similar sword for himself

Vorador forged the Reaver. He was merely wielding a sword that resembled the reaver. Vorador likes to forge wavy swords.

oh wow and here im thinking he actually had the real blade. i was wondering how kain and vorador had the same blade, but they didnt. wow now the story is much less confusing hah.

Not just your opinion. It is my opinion as well. I wondered if someone felt the same about that time traveling.