This one was a draining video to make, just because there was so much detail to capture, correlate and make function because the story was written by people who aren't military. That's not to put them down in any way, but it did mean that certain limitations have to be placed upon the universe in which the story operates to make it function, and by combining a host of different books together, I was able to come to what I feel are some very reasonable conclusions about how this all works and hopefully give you, the audience, a more reasonable understanding of way in which legions conduct war, at least if you go 'by the book'. If you like this, please let me know, because part 2 will come soon enough.

I've always been fascinated with applying logistics in fiction because it gives the universe a sense of "reality". Unfortunately it's seems a ever growing trend to simply ignore this type of thing. I have always wondered about the logistics of the horus heresy so this video is very educational.

As a USMC officer, this all feels *very* familiar to MAGTF operations . I've read some other 30k-era fan material that is similar. I much prefer the organization and tactics of the Great Crusade/Heresy-era Marines compared to the far more rigid and (IMO) unrealistically poorly-supported 40k Tactical Companies.

I'm gonna have to show this video to my LT next time he critiques our ammo usage 😅 Also an interesting point is that current Canadian Military doctrine is to only engage in an assault on a position when you outnumber the enemy force by a 3:1 ratio. Wild to think how increases in personal armor makes for an exponential increase in advantage for the defending force. Truly makes you shudder at the thought of how grueling marine vs marine engagements in a fully urban environment like Istavaan 3 would be. Scary stuff

I love this kind of video. The rough calculations on dislodging marines from cover really makes sense of why a lot of the time legionnaires charge at each other with sharpened sticks. It's a much more decisive action than engaging in a small arms duel and marines can take the incoming fire from their counterparts well.

As an Iron Warriors collector, I love this. I wish I could find a Thunderhawk Transporter for sale.

Fascinating video, mate- I can only imagine how long it took you to track down and analyze all that data, and put it in a cohesive and straightforward format. Excellent work, and very enjoyable to watch. My father, who was a tank driver and gunner in the US Army back in the early ‘60s, was a huge WWII enthusiast, and a collector of books on the weaponry, logistics, strategies, and battles of that era- and he was a big influence on my own interests in that field. This video was reminiscent of a lot of the more scholarly documentaries that we used to watch together, so it’s right up my alley- I’m really looking forward to seeing the next one. Again, great job on this one, and thanks for posting it.

Probably the best HH video I’ve seen, will be re-watching!

Anyone who thinks this kind of stuff is boring is not at true 40k fan. Or, even, I would say, 30k fan.

Easily one of your best videos. Fantastic stuff man

logistics and ballistics FTW!

This answers questions I've had for a while thanks for the video

absolutely great video. while i get that these types of videos are harder to make they are great and i would love to see more.

I’d kill for a 30k-40k version of “Supplying War”

You've been on a streak of pretty solid videos Macca,this one is very top notch too,man. Part 2's going to slap!

This couldn't have been easy.

I'm certainly looking forward to more of this stuff. Logistics is something never to be overlooked.

Boring? Far from it! I love this stuff, knowing how everything works.

I really appreciate the technical information/organizational minutiae. Thanks.

Extremely interesting and well done video, congrats mate

Might be your greatest video so far...

im super happy with this vid, finally you made a vid on somthing you like. its super informative and VERY well made. NJ

Great video; I have always wondered about a legion's command structure and their logistics. I look forward to the next video.

Looove iiit.🔥🔥🔥 Need more lore stuff like this macca!

Very nice video, this will boost my creation of crusade time space marine rp game

Good video, i like the stuff about Bolters towards the end, as someone else said, it now kinda makes sense why so many carry Swords! I feel that some major believability issues arise from the models, mainly the orbital insertion craft that have models, it's a wise choice that most of the larger Dropcraft are both ubiquitous in-fiction but never firmly detailed. Drop pods are a bit iffy due to various logistical issues but i can very easily believe that rapidly delivering 10 Astartes with pinpoint accuracy would be very useful in many scenarios, just not mass deployment. Thunderhawks make far more sense used in the other ways they are depicted, as multipurpose starcraft or close air support/medivac, as the Turbo Laser is a far more powerful weapon in fiction (low-orbit range, vital strategic planetary defence approved) than in game and 20 or so Space Marines are far more threatening as a boarding force or taxied around the Battlespace in VTOL tanks. However otherwise they are a complete joke, a craft of that size and seemingly low numbers could never be used to mass deploy troops from orbit.

Loved this. A joy to watch.

Fucking awesome video Macca! This is great!!! Can't wait for the next vid!

Very good and interesting video. Hope you do more of this, for me this background information is very useful as I am building Horus Heresy Army.

Cheers for putting this video together Macca. Been aiming to put a small Imperial Fist BFG force together and this has me chomping at the bit to look for proxy supply ships to include for what a campaign would entail.

One of the most interesting warhammer video I've seen since a long time, great work !

Well done. I enjoyed the TOE/TTP's for the planetary invasion.

Chaos gate 1998 is a good analog to determine the loadout and standards of what a space marine is armed and equipped with. A standard boltgun has sixteen shots in the shortest banana shaped magazine which you carry four, two frag grenades, two Krak grenades, two field medics and the standard issue knife. Depending on the mission they could take more supplies or less if needed, or different grenade types, like plasma grenades, blind grenades, melt bombs, agent orange, or haywire grenades, or rad grenades (Some of these special grenade types are not likely to be given to squad.) The standard is four magazines of extra ammo whether its bolter ammo, plasma cells, etc. Then a missile launcher can take one rack of five missiles in it of which they could take four extra racks either with the same type (e.g Frag, Krak, Plasma, Melta-missiles, or agent orange.) and add more which in this context could be carried by the rest of the squad or in the rhino or drop pod. Heavy bolters get four chambers for belted ammo with varying amounts but the minimum twenty shots (Heavy bolters have nasty habit of jamming so proper care is important.) Each plasma cell for a plasma gun can fire eight shots before needing to be reloaded which you have four cells, (plasma pistols can fire six shots before needing a reload, and plasma cannons have a built-in recharge system, but if you don't let the weapon recharge fully after a shot then it will only fire like a plasma gun (provided it doesn't explode in your face. Las cannons have sixteen shot per cells before a replace of the cell is required. A properly maintained Melta-gun can fire twelve times before the cell needs to be replaced, and a Multi-Melta double that so 24 shots. By the way just for fun each magazine on a a storm bolter can contain fifty rounds so a hundred bolts per storm bolter. (combi Bolters get around the fifty rounds.) limit by using clips and the gatling cannon has two thousand rounds. Just to note terminators don't get extra ammo as they can't reload their weapons in terminator armor, that stuff would stay in the land raider or such.

I love these kinds of videos! Endlessly facinating and great to think about! Would love to see a similar style of video for other Imperial factions too :)

Hu... that drop pod assault timeline sounds a lot like the airfield seizure operational timeline I learned in my time as a Paratrooper. Also the whole ammunition issue is one of the things that has always kinda bugged me about Warhammer minitures. Maybe with the prominence of 3D printing within the hobby we as a community can remedy that in a way that doesn't look... well ridiculous lol.

New wave every 40min has the problem that, the strike cruiser would be on the other side of the planet at that point, for the thunderhawks to return to. The international space station is on about 90min orbit.

I'm thinking if Guilliman would turn to chaos during heresy, imperial would lose

So good! Love content like this!!! Keep it up man!

Very good vid.i had no idea

This is really well done mate!

The fact there isn't a landspeeder with a flatbed to carry ammo is tragic

Awesome info 👌

excellent can't wait

Warhammer logistics... Arch will love this I'm sure. I know I do

Cool af Macca! Thanks to fulfill my ocds 🤟

Looking at the description of a Legionstructure between 2:00 and 6:50 I would say that the Codex Astastes of Roboute Guilliman was a huge mistake (at least from a gaming perspective). Seeing this graphic makes way more sense playing for example a company of Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Imperial Fists or whatever when their are maybe 100 or maybe even 1000 companies inside the how many chapters of a Legion (and not the "the most famous chapter has 4 Battle companies at the same time, so building one of them would be a lore break). With a structure like the legions it acutally makes sense to sell people Ultramarines because if you don't play Roboute Guilliman himself (or one of the other named charakters there is really enough room to play your own company or even Battalion (or maybe even have your own chapter in the Legion).

This might have been a pain in the arse but this was a great video as I'm a fan of the nitty gritty details like this. Makes the fiction feel more lived in

The Outer Circle x The Operations Room collab when?

Interesting, that you used Jeddah for the map explanation. :D

I’ve always noticed that there are subalterns in the Vexillarius at the Legion, Chapter, and Battalion levels. I’m guessing they’re the executive officers at their respective unit levels or do they fill some other role since they’re listed under the Vexillarius?

Hello, I've been struggling very specifically with a legion org. You see, the imperial fists mention echelons, households, and companies from 1st to 422nd. I was wondering how this all works together. For instance, is the first assault echelon a series of companies specialising in assault formations like phalanax warders and assault marines? Are they numbered from one to so on, or is every single company unique and simply attached to large formations like battalions, echelons and chapters.

How exactly do second and third wave Drop Pod work in the lore? Are the same tubes reloaded with more Drop Pods or do they simply save some tubes for later drops?

this must have been taxing, tried doing somehing simuler and i couldn't even get close

Not sure when P2 is coming out, but I'm curious how realistic is to deploy that much (or little) resources to a ~70mx100m battlefield, which is roughly the standard 6x4 scaled down to 1:64. Why even drive tanks...

Would you be willing to do one for skitarii ?

Is there a part 2?

Someone can writte how are spelled the titles that compose the vexiliaris

You mentioned ancients with the primarch, thats the dreadnoughts right? I feel like a lot of sources just put stuff in this section with the praetorate if they are a but unsure how to fit them in

You are my kind of nerd 😅

Its funny comparing this to a similar video about the star wars clone army. The clone army is a complete and utter mess xD