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​@@MashITTech When I saw the technically water cooling loop in a video, I laughed so hard my dog awoke.

haha, it even looks weedy. I did have hope it would have some effect but looks like a complete waste of time

me with my second-hand ThinkPad W530 from 2012: shifty eyes 👀 (but you're right; 11 years is not forever, and although it's still quite usable, I have lately been strongly considering upgrading it)

Well, a laptop is definitely something you can keep for a long time, especially if you take care of it. I'm upgrading from my 15 year old laptop

haha I did plan to do that one :)

@@MashITTech yess will be waiting for it then🤗

Thank you mate 😀

both m18 and legion 7 are great laptops but what is your main use case? if you want a desktop replacement then the m18 is a better pick. If you want a laptop that is portable then get the legion. Power wise they are both great performers there, there is literally nothing between them. With regards to price its actually been even cheaper than I paid for mine! Keep your eyes on hotukdeals, we always post when Lenovo drop a good discount code :)

Thanks for the reply. Going for the legion with an rtx 4080👍

you could get a 5i with a 4070 and i9 13900k for like 100$ less

Yes I have found that when gaming it cuts into my palm

@@MashITTech hey would you be able to review the Acer Predator Triton 17x (2023) model please it would be greatly appreciated and if you could compare it to the Legion 9i eventually that’d be amazing! Love your content!

yes, that is a standard RAID problem, Alienwares have the same issue. Fortunately a fresh install is easy with these

I'll bet u 20 bucks my Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 with 4090 outperforms your 9i... But, hope you're happy paying double for three quarters the performance! :)

⁠@@DJ-ru4imwould u recommend legion 7i or pro 7i

@@Nah_Id_Win4 depends on if you need top end performance or not. The Pro 7i is the newer generation and comes with the 40 series Nividia GPU rather than the older 30 series Nividia GPU. I personally prefer the design of the Pro 7i more as well. But both are extremely powerful computers

yeah, they are being overly generous there I think but also they have multiple panel manufacturers (the usual panel lottery) so maybe one has slightly better colour space.

I still need to do the 7 review so will try and add something in there for you 👍

I own a 7i with 4080. It's a beast! And awesome - I know there's some plastics but it feels really good.

Thanks for the tip guys. B&H has 4080 for $2149... not bad!!!

$1999 right now at B&H @@Jowersman

Got an ebay certified refurb for 2199. A 4090. It's a beast, im honestly impressed. I keep up somewhat with my friend with desktop 4080 .

Own a 4090 series 7i pro and was also impressed with the build quality. I've seen a lot of complaints about plastic. However, it has plenty of heft, feels robust, and the performance is outstanding.

I haven't had many Asus laptops this year, I guess if you are concerned about colours you may want to try and get an OLED laptop. If I am honest I always edit on my 38" ultra wide so the screen hasn't been an issue for me, it looks good and is very responsive but certainly not the most colour accurate. I would recommend calibrating it though if you plan on editing on it

@@MashITTech Thanks for taking the time. I have a pro 4k specs BENq 32 inch on my desktop but the idea with this laptop is when I'm on the road. Can I please ask one more question. I just got my Lenovo 7i intel 13900 pro laptop today. It's weird how the ram upgrade is. Like it's dirty secret. No one is sure. Leveno says 32 is max and plenty of people are using 64gb. As an editor I need more ram but is it a waste since it slow you down to 4800MHZ. I just bought and may return 2 32gb sticks of DDR5 5200MHZ. Is that ok. I know the one tech on youtube used 4800 but I can't get that delievered on time. I'm not tech so I want to ask you. What do you think? Still not sure I'll keep this laptop but so far it's pretty cool. One guy with a popular channel only got 2 percent more specs with adobe premiere. YIKES this is what made me wonder.

That’s possible but surely it would have been easier for them to keep the 2022 chassis with all those amazing features and put in the new motherboard, it’s the same power budget. Instead it’s like the out the legion 7 components in a legion 5 chassis

@@MashITTech I've heard the price of the 40 series GPUs are the what caused them to cut features on the 7i Pro.

@@MashITTech how do i recognize 2022 legion 7?

I would say the cooling is better on the GT77 over the legion 👍

yeah, as it should! I hate it when they make it difficult to upgrade them and soldered on components drive me insane

I ran them at 1600p so they were both the same

if the price is the same I would take the Legion 9. As much as I love the x16, the soldered ram, 300nit screen, worse CPU and power delivery makes it inferior to the legion 9

The 9i is better but I just got the x16 with a 4080 an i9 and 32g of ram (6000mhz) plus a qhd 240hz screen for $2600 at that price point the x16 is very compelling. The x16 also has better built in speakers and more of them. And a slightly better keyboard. Other then that the 9i wins

Unfortunately there isn’t the option to overclock the ryzen version. I am still looking for tools to do it manually

@@MashITTech sadly . thank you btw

I have been using the legions since 2020 and our original unit which Gary has been heavily using for editing has been severely abused and has no hinge or build issues 👍

For VM support and hacking you would be better with either the 7 or the 9, the 7 would be better because of its better battery life

Yeah, its crazy, I used to only buy Alienware before starting this channel but I am not liking the direction Dell is taking atm, I mean where is the x18?? I have had the Legion 7 for about 4 months now and although I haven't reviewed it, I absolutely love it. I must do that review sometime 🤣

@@MashITTech so Blade 16 or Legion 7?? Quick - my return window for the Blade is almost done! :-)

I would keep the blade personally but the legion 7 is better value for money

Thanks for the advice! Keeping the blade. (I really can't justify it - but I DO like it). @@MashITTech

​@MashITTech I love everything about the X16 ergonomically and aesthetically - It's just a little ridiculous they couldn't give us competitive CPUs or a larger model to establish a desktop replacement. The X18 would be my ideal device at this time. I am quite interested in the 9i for several reasons too - but the keyboard being smashed into an awkward place for a redundant water cooler hurts me lol. Most likely buying a maxed out blade 18 in mercury white this year - but it's a shame. I need a desktop replacement for new travel requirements at my job, and I don't mind the extra money for premium build quality of the models I'm considering - but I would 100% prefer a Legion 9i done right or an Alienware X16 with a brighter screen and an HX Intel chip. The little details and luxury appearance in these items is what inspires me to continue using them - but it's almost unforgivable to overlook the larger details (such as screen and competition).

nice price, hope you enjoy it?

@@MashITTech at the start of the year i was eyeing up the Dell x16 but costs and lower performance vs the legion 7i pro from your reviews saved me from wasting money. the only other ones i was interested in was the MSI Vector GP68 and the asus scar 17.. while i use an external monitor, for those days i don't - the GP68 was a deal breaker, also came with less and slower memory for the same price as the legion. and the Scar 17 - just can't justify spending an extra £500 for an extra 10 fps... thank you for all your reviews, they've been super helpful and has helped me make a better decision. It arrives in 7 days, i'll let you know how it goes !

As amazing as the 9i is, it’s not worth £1500 more than the 7i for the screen and better build quality! I would get the 7i as it’s still a great machine and put the £1500 towards something else

@@MashITTech thanks for the reply 😊 the 7i seems like the sensible choice .. but the inner kid in me wants the shiny new thing. I'm going to think about it for a couple of weeks, I'm in no rush

use the price difference for a really good monitor.. or vacation

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Couldn’t have said it better.

I think you are going to love the mini LED, it is almost on par with OLED and was the most responsive mini LED I have tested. The screen and the build is the real highlight of the laptop, it is a shame the water lop was a bit of a gimmick but performance was still great regardless. Let me know what you think of yours.

Do you know about PWM from mini-LED? You gonna have eye strain because of PWM, it is on all brightness levels, while IPS is much safer for eyes, because it doesnt have or has the high frequency PWM at lower brightness levels

@@tima_net3289 I am well aware about PWM as I am someone that suffers severely with migraines if a low HZ PWM is used (such as in OLED phones and screens, and I just cannot buy OLED as much as I love the picture). This mini LED does have PWM but the frequency is very high and gives me no eye strain

I also had a lot of laptops this year. I had (and still have) razer blade 16 4090. And also Triton 17X. I was unhappy with triton QA and razer 4k is too taxing. I have legion 9i now, but I missed Scar 16. How is Scar 16 compared to legion 9i?

@@Dserebrakov do you prefer this legion 9 to your blade 16?

Yes for the better build quality and features

@@MashITTech I am trying my luck with discounts though I will have to wait till Monday. If not then I will have to settle for the Pro 7i.

I was able to get the 9i 4080 with coupons and before taxes, $2889, which is really only $500 more than the 7i 4080

Don’t forget the price 😂

I think it's worth the value with the discount, it has a very strong and nice built quality

which discount codes did you stack?

That was modern warfare 2 multiplayer

Same here 💯

It really doesnt feel cheap does it

It doesn't feel cheap at all. It feels super solid.

I think the closed loop is kind of gimmicky since it's a very closed loop system. If you got money to almost throw away and want the literal best, yes the 9i. But there's no way I could. The 7i with a 4080 was a stretch to convince the wife.

Haha well done mate 😀

wow that's a mental price, I recently bought a 4080 legion 7 Ryzen model (Review almost finished) a couple of weeks ago for 1900 and thought that was good 🤣

@@MashITTech Yeah good price for 4080. blackfriday discount code got sold out in hours. People gone mental for it. Now 4080 selling for 1900 with another code

yes mate it is. their CS have no clue and the same comes with the max SSDs they say you can install. I will do a guide soon

@@MashITTech I will keep an eye out. I ordered the 9i because I want to replace my desktop for gaming and photography. Not being able to upgrade the 7i to 64GB of RAM which is what pushed me to order the 9i. Sounds like the screen is good enough on the 7i for photography as well. Might cancel my order now 😕

in all honesty, I would take the 7 over the 9 at the current pricing. The screen on the 9 may sway you if you are using it for photography work but for twice the price!?!

64gb works fine in the 7i.

96gb of ram seems to be the max on the legion 7i

I am good thank you mate, incredibly busy as I have a ton of laptops stacked up and not enough time to review them all 🤣 How are you? Glad you are still enjoying the 7, last years 7 was the pinnacle of value, performance and premium from a legion laptop IMHO

​@@MashITTechare you going to review the amd Legion 7?

I am assuming you are talking about last years AMD model as there is no AMD this year, and if so I already reviewed it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNGJoKya0L68dqs.html

@@MashITTech there is this year's model, with 7945hx and 4090

Oh strange, I have not seen that release in the U.K.! I will go and have another look in case I missed it

talking of lol since when has a minute had more than 60 seconds 🤣

Lol😂

Good idea

Alienware m16 vs razer blade 16 vs 9

I haven't got the m16 in the studio atm as I got rid of my intel model to get the new AMD model which isn't here yet :(

so so true

How because I can't get it lowered then $3,700 not including tax.

@@user-ut7vi6mr5dif you have ID ie first responder, nurse, or military discount combined w/ the current available discounts- pre tax $3212.72 and after tax $3437.62, this was my order total w/ a 4090

@@user-ut7vi6mr5d GAMINGCTO code + CELEBRATE2023 code gets you to $3,465.84, then you get another 6-10% cash back with Rakuten.

I got my 7i for 2199 4090. extra 1k for fake water cooling and miniled not worth it

@@joshuam4993 Thank you for providing your input. I must agree with your logic.

where? I missed that

@@MashITTech in Australia

Nice! Hope you enjoy it!

with the fact it seems to offer no real benefit at this point its more of a gimmick and if it ran dry would probably perform the same

2080? 🤣

@@Legitti That's the premium one from 2 years ago.

​@@alangabrielnietosaavedra3639no way man paid 2k for it now

​@@alangabrielnietosaavedra3639no way he paid 2k for it

Slim 5 has a better CPU then what ? The legion 7i/9i?lol

@@invoked5114 In terms of OpenCL and Radeon HIP support for CPU and iGPU, i agree that AMD 7840HS is bad CPU. Most of my older builds of LuxCoreRender OpenCL, they don't work. All this hardware accelerated image, video, CGI is no go until AMD starts supporting RDNA3 APU'S with ROCm.

it can be configured with 4070, 4080 and 4090. I just chose 4080 as I think its the best bang for the buck

Haha yeah maybe. I must admit I didn’t like it in the pictures but the look and feel in person was much better than I was expecting and I did really like it. I still would swap my blade 16 for this though that’s for sure

Yeah, I get that. Some things just look better in person. That being said some designs you just dislike straight out the gate and for me this is one of them. Did you mean to say you wouldn't swap your blade for this or you would? Same Lenovo couldn't make a nice looking high end laptop as the legion family of laptops have a lot of appealing qualities from a performance standpoint. @@MashITTech

@@furnitureandbedding776 oops sorry that was a typo, I wouldn't swap its for my blade, Much prefer the Blades more compact chassis, better speakers, windows hello and better balanced performance than the legion 9s

@@MashITTech I’m with you. I had the x16 and blade back to back and just preferred the AW x16 as I had problems with multiple mercury edition blades. I think going forward every new cycle I’ll either be looking at an aw or blade. Make sure to not accidentally chop and carrots or Celery on your legion lol.

Hey Mash, Serious question I wanted to ask you. I remember awhile back you mentioned something about not overdoing a monitor purchase for a laptop-based desk top setup. I think I know what you mean now. I have the AW 2723DF (same monitor you have) as well as the OLED PG27AQDM by Asus. For some reason when I game on the Asus monitor in HDR the fan-noise is non-stop even in balanced mode with the X16. With the AW monitor fan-noise is basically non-existent while gaming in balanced mode. Can you clarify if a 4k,OLED or HDR display can tax a laptop's performance and increase heat and thus fan-noise? The Asus has a slight edge over the AW but it's a close race and the AW cost me $440.00 after discounts vs the 1,250 I paid for the asus. I dont run the AW in HDR since it looks better for the games I play in SDR( I only play RTS Games) so it's a non-issue with the AW. While the Asus only looks good in HDR@@MashITTech

why wouldn't it? they are both the 175w TGP, the 4090 is just a little more powerful, it will still act in a similar way thermally which is the point of the comparison

yeah, but when you are paying this much should they be cost cutting on anything?

lol you have got to love auto generated captions 😂

@@MashITTech after this yeah 🤪🤣

BTW, the INTERNAL liquid cooling makes no difference with a heat pipe but making more noise. I'd say it is just for more price but not more pleasant.

The 7 has really been stripped back this year which is a real shame

i7 + 4090 every time

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No RTX 4080 tho