Can you please compare the 14 in M3 pro 12/18 to the 14 in M3 max 14/30 to see if it throttles and if it’s worth the extra $400-$800?

When you say "partnered" you really mean sponsored by Intel x Lenovo. Yes? Because this is a rather unbalanced comparison, a compact 14" vs bulky 16" chassis and thermal dissipation capabilities. No mention whatsoever of package wattage consumption and battery life as you are so often of mentioning in Mac vs Mac reviews. Honest eh?

get that paper.. forget about showing full reviews.

It's Max.

sponsored. paid promotion.

What is the battery life like?

Battery life is not a big deal. I carry around a 100 ft extension cable.

Silent as the Mac in normal use hahahahaha

@@djutsum It has a huge battery so about 6-7 hours. The AMD is also quite powerful even on battery power so it is comparable to the M1 pro.

@@AndroidGamingApps with teams, outlook , Jupiter lab and tensor flow + some safari tabs the Mac fans spin at about 2500 rpm - the same as the legion but the Mac fans are less audible. Running games on the Mac is more noisy than the legion (warthunder)

Exactly! This review is paid and biased! Too bad, that’s not very objective!

Interestingly enough, there were no trackpad comparisons.

The slim is a gaming laptop of course it’s thick🤦‍♂️

As someone who uses both Macs and Windows computers I appreciated the raw power comparison for the buck. And, if you're a Mac user you should appreciate it as well. We need to keep Apple accountable for their pricing. It's already well established that Mac laptops are vastly more portable when it comes to battery life and often size/weight. I expect to pay a premium for that, but I don't expect a Windows laptop to wipe the floor with it in performance either and that's exactly what this video showed. Apple must do better on pricing to at least come somewhat closer in price/performance with its competition. This is no good.

@@Cowicide true. I just saw a Dell with 3.5K resolution , 32 GB DDR5 RAM, i9 13900H, RTX 4060 , 1 TB for $2199.

Obviously the Mac is much better un battery life. That's where it shines actually.

Intel laptop is definitely plugged in without it performance drops dramatically

Unplugged?

these things are important.... a code build project would be interesting to see - see how many builds it could do the same project, unplugged and on a full charge...

A MacBookPro does not need to be plugged in

And took the time to comment. You'll never get that time back you know....

sponsored.

the top of the description says everything. We honestly can't trust Max Tech. He's just a shill

Does he goes hard at MacBooks? Don't think so, there are tests that can humiliate MacBooks😅

"window snapping" first thing I always disable,.

No it´s not on par... Base model M3 Max GPU performance is a little slower than a 4070 and the 40core GPU version is a little slower than the 4080 mobile. So not even in the same league as the 4090. Maybe the M3 Ultra will be in that territory, for double the price of course.

In gaming performance it is not in the same galaxy 😅 only a handful of games work good on Mac, but no way near as good as on PC.

Can you confirm how's the performance of the laptop and if these test scores by Max are plugged-in or unplugged performance of Lenovo?

ever use windows trackpad it really worth using you can modify some of its functions

Almost like they didn't want to show that those stats are only achieved with a jet engine sound while plugged in vs a macbook that was on battery without even turning on the fans.

yep, after speding time on these new Macs, I cannot stand the feel of most other computers. I am so glad the butterfly keyboard is gone! That was terrible. The trackpad however is GLORIOUS!@@TheEfarfan

Yes we all know. This is a sponsored video from Intel and Lenovo, that’s most likely why he didn’t mention it

I noticed that too

It’s a gaming laptop, you’re supposed to use it plugged in😭

@@robfrost3789 It probably comes with complimentary blue screens and the incessant need to security update every ten to fifteen minutes as well! Those two things would mitigate any performance gains.

@@jimtipton8888 both OS have there pros and cons and anyone who says otherwise is a fan of that system. Both products are great, and both have their issues. I'm looking for a new computer to replace a 14 year old Dell i7. I'm using videos like this to help me choose a new one. I just find it amusing that when windows beats an Apple product in a few tests how apple fans bring battery life up. Yes they are better at that but windows laptops at similar prices are better at other things which is great as choice is great for consumers :-) Currently I'm 50/50 what to get, I'm looking to get something in the new year so the new M3 came at a good time for me, at least I don't have to wait and see what might come out in the future :-)

The Intel machine was plugged in

It's a MacBookPro. No need to plug it in

@@luxurybuzz3681 that’s my point. Intel has long had performance issues when unplugged. MacBook Pro has not.

obviously plugged in. comparing performances when the laptops aren't plugged in doesn't make sense because windows laptops are going to performance worse.

If you push MacBooks hard - battery indicator drops in real time 😅😅😅 maybe it won't even survive the whole testing 😅 MacBook battery is only great when you do easy work ( non power hungry stuff like browsing and etc)

Lenovo is coming with Qualcomm's Oryon CPU in 2024, then see who is battery king!

we all know how the results turn out

Your comment history is telling

That's why I don't have a grill. I just use a windows laptop to cook myself BBQ

Who even uses their laptop in battery mode? Most of the time you can plug it in the office, home, or even a car😅 Battery mode is for non demanding work only. Even a MacBook in battery mode will drain its battery in no time, if you push it hard ( rendering or gaming)

I mean we all know battery is going to be better on the MacBook. What I'm interested in is were these tests on Lenovo performed unplugged or plugged?? Because if that is unplugged performance then it's amazing. If not, then we all know the performance is going to decrease by about 40% on the Lenovo when unplugged.

@@ibraheem1224 thats likely plugged in frankly. the gpu wouldn't ramp up like that unplugged but as you can see if you need absolute performance this is what you need. As someone that was sick of windows laptops and went to macbooks in 2019. I'm feeling more and more like going back to windows for gaming purposes. But man macbooks are so nice to use and so easy to just go "im getting a macbook, I need all the performance, I'll take THAT one". I really see windows laptops as better in 1. Games 2. AI. 3. 3d rendering software an things that aren't mac compatible. Ugh frustrating. Wish we could get AMD, NVIDIA, and Apple in a room to make the perfect laptop for us. (ROFL)

apple is already working on a battery than can last 50-60 hours... that is the future... look how much battery you get on the M3 MBP (22 hours battery life) @@hhkk6155

@@zt9233just get a steam deck if you want to game. You’ll be happier that way

It's not a review.

alright, in that case compare a core i9 desktop 14900k with whatever M3 ultra pro max max max, and that would be much more fair comparison, watch apple silicon getting smacked by intel. As far as battery and performance balance is concerned, I will give it to Apple.

no RISC chips, they are ARM chips.

@@yenjun0204 Apple silicon is RISC.

same viruses should be a thing of the past!

With an Intel CPU...it's gonna be rubbish. He didn't really need to test that......

​@@sercan272727this laptop with amd 7940 can run 9 hrs.

@@sercan272727 Better user interface? That's very subjective. Battery life should be important to anyone considering a laptop. What other software options are out there that aren't on a Mac and don't say games because nobody in their right mind buys a laptop for gaming.

Obviously the results are plugged in and with Mac You Will keep the performance unplugged. But if You value RAW power and speed and have a graphic intesive workflow like VFX, you'll be better off with a Gaming Laptop with dedicated RTX GPU, it Will be cheaper to max out un RAM and Storage and the tradeoff is battery life but not missing much in other things either.

sponsored. paid promotion.

Battery life is nice, but if the Windows machine can wipe the floor with the Mac and finish some tasks in half the time for the same price with a bigger screen then it doesn't look as compelling for the Mac at all. Spending double the time wastes both time and battery. This is not good for Apple. They need to make their pricing more competitive.

I’ve owned a MacBook Pro M1 Pro before having owning a Lenovo Legion Slim. Besides battery and Display quality, MacBook Pros are overpriced rips offs compared to Windows laptops, and I’m saying this as an Apple fan. Windows laptops can pack more performance with decent battery life for the price than MacBooks.

@@marcreginvea328decent battery life like 2 hours?😂 performance only while plugged in?

No dude, windows latops these days have a battery of 6+ hours. You may lose some performance but still more powerful for the price to performance than MacBooks. @@MaxMustermann-vy7ur

That because y’all don’t do any heavy on Mac’s lmaooo

Exactly, some argue that the M3 Pro is a downgrade from the M2 Pro due to the additional E core, resulting in 6 P Cores and 6 E Cores, whereas the M2 had 8 P Cores and 4 E Cores. I believe there might be more to it than just a battery life improvement of the M3 Pro.

The video says it has the 13980H which does not exist. There is a 13980HX which has indeed 8 performance core and 16 energy core, but looking on. Lenovo web site, this does not seem to be available for the legion slim 7 16 inch.

@@jeanjasinczuk7543 oh yes I saw 13980H as 13900H. 13980H doesn't exist

@@jeanjasinczuk7543 it's probably a typo.

Yeah advertised reviews video is just pointless, it looks like he make us watch 10 minute ads for free 😂

They are the same price - it's not his problem that apple is 2" less, and 256gb less, and 50% of performance less😅😅😅

@@hhkk6155 GPU maybe but Mac beats PC in CPU as usual

@@Epicgamer_Mac you didn't watch the test? PC CPU is more powerful in real world applications, and that is not even a shocker 😔 but getting 2x of GPU performance is

@@hhkk6155 Please keep in mind that the M3 Max gets nearly twice the CPU performance of the M3 Pro and well over twice the GPU. Since this is an i9 laptop it should have been compared to the M3 Max and there would have been no competition. The M3 Max is not just objectively the fastest laptop CPU out there, but it holds its own against high-end desktop chips from Intel and AMD. For example, Cinebench - 1721 on my M3 Max vs 1907 on the i9 13900K in my liquid-cooled gaming PC. Yes obviously the i9 is overclocked. Let me just say if it weren't that I still need Windows for some of my games, I'd have sold the PC after getting this M3 Max.

sponsored. paid promotion.

And MacBook will drain its battery really fast, when you do heavy work. Like you will see a real-time battery indicator drop 😂

I have very old Macs and Windows machines humming away using them as Plex servers and other esoteric tasks. Neither is "dying" except the Macs because of known graphics card issues so I had to run firmware hacks to disable the faulty card. Apple needs to get a handle on their pricing. No reason to make excuses for them.

Older macs are more reliable, newer Macs die all the time - SSD, keyboards, displays and other stuff. Years go bye and apple laptops have the same old problems. And even apples warranty is bad nowadays - their water sensors trip from humidity and they deny you warranty repair.

Lol wait until one of their soldered components fail, total garbage!

More mid tier

there the same price though

Doesn't the max cost much more than the legion?

It does. I’d love to see the comparison. The max is more expensive but the legion had a much more powerful gpu. Would love to see them compared regardless of cost.

@@CowicideIt also gives you: Way better screen (accuracy, contrast, HDR, P3 gamut etc) Way better build quality Way better speakers and not Microsoft ads in your start menu. Windows 11 basically is a sponsored billboard. The M3 Max also is more than twice as fast as the M3 Pro and more in line with the RTX4080.

@@DennisSchmitz There will never be MS ads on my Windows machine. I eliminate them same as I do with auto-updates as well. I barely interface with an OS anyway. For example on macOS I use apps like Alfred/Launchbar - same type of apps on Windows I utilize means I rarely see the start menu in the first place. Way better screen is debatable. Build quality. What does that even mean? And, who caress? I'm not trying to impress anyone with my laptop's "shine". It's not going to fall apart. I've never had a Mac or Windows machine fail due to "build quality". I run ancient machines for Plex servers, etc. and none of them are failing whether they are Wintel or Mac. Well, except some older Macbook Pros where I had to hack them to kill graphics cards that failed. The ones Apple was sued for and finally recalled after tremendous pressure. But, I digress... Speakers? Why would I use speakers on a laptop for music? I use quality headphones w/noise cancellation or actual, real speakers with a subwoofer if I want to share music. Modern Apple Silicon Macbook Pros are great for these things - Amazing battery life. Arguably better Operating System depending upon what your needs are (and how you use it). Typically thinner and lighter. One of the best trackpads. I do expect to pay a premium for those advantages, but getting destroyed in price/performance to THIS degree is revolting and has me looking towards hackintoshes.

​@@DennisSchmitzapple laptops are not "better quality " they have all kinds of problems: keyboards die, SSD die, to name a few😅 and 105°bon CPU is bonkers

😂

Yep I agree and it’s not like other youtube channels where the company sends it for review and it’s not biased like this😢

No wonder there was no battery test and no mention the Lenovo was plugged in during the test.

real same here lmao

I realized there is also the thumb down button which i haven’t used for ages 😂