Leica 25mm F1.4II -It's weather sealed now!

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Leica 25mm F1.4II -It's weather sealed now!
Leica DG Summilux 25mm F1.4 II APSH. is an update to one of the nicest lenses for MFT cameras. The new version is weather sealed, but still has the same beautiful rendering of the original.
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@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын

"It is not a pixel peepers lens, it is a photographers lens." Well said. That sentences made me curios. I want to test that lens sometime.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Sure thing, as soon as this chaos is over, you can test the lens.

@zbieraj 4 жыл бұрын

Please do. #teamOMD

@Mir1189 4 жыл бұрын

I was considering both Olympus 1.8 and 1.2. In terms of price and speed, Summilux sits 1/3 in terms of speed below PRO lens, but at half of price, half of size and its very light. 2 stops faster than both of my workhorse zooms, so it makes it perfect backup for low light scenarios, while still compact enough to be carried in a compact bag. And yeah, its water resistant now.

@hauke3644 3 жыл бұрын

Same consideration for me. I had the old Leica 25mm and replaced it with version II. For curiosity I made a quick comparison and found that the new version is visibly sharper in the outer areas wide open. Optically a very good lens, but the issue with the aperture remains. And I would prefer a round or tulip lens hood that can be reversed.

@robertromanelli9425 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for yet another great review. In your videos I learn about products but more importantly, I learn about philosophy of use and proper technique. Thank you Matti for taking the time to share your expertise with us.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for those kind words.

@Ws6er97 4 жыл бұрын

I bought the Mark i with my GH-3 way back when I started my photographic journey. It was a great investment. I'm gonna skip the Mark ii but I'd recommend either version to anyone learning photography. Shooting this prime forced me to think about composition, depth of field and the importance of the exposure triangle. Good on Panasonic for updating an oldy but good.

@FelipANadal Жыл бұрын

I just love this lens. I have owned the Lumix 25 1.7, Zuiko 25 1.8 and this one, I sold it some time ago and I regreted immediately, I just bought another unit this week and I am incredibly happy with it. With the weather sealing makes the perfect companion for my Em5 Mark III, and there is something about the contrast and colors this lens generates that really pleases me.

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@jeffslade1892 Жыл бұрын

I have never found "weather sealing" to be worth anything. I have used cameras a very long time and have never needed "weather sealing". Even an unsealed lens can take a few rain drops. I have taken photos on boats splashing about in the sea and on sea walls with the English Channel in a "bit of a blow" (force 10 complete hoolie, spray and spume everywhere, people and caravans being lifted and thrown). We take the photo and tuck the camera away again - under the rain jacket on the woolly jumper which dries the droplets off.

@user-rj1hx5jz1n 4 жыл бұрын

I have the mark 1 25mm and I love it for the reasons mentioned in the video review above.Using it on my Lumix GX9 for about 3 years.My favourite lens especially for street photography.Fast sharp and lovely colors.No noise is noticed. Recommended.The mark2 is even better in some aspects. GIDEON

@sumyeung101 4 жыл бұрын

Agree with you. I love this lens because of the different characteristics at 1.4 and about 2 to 2.8.

@starlord1177 3 жыл бұрын

i liked that intro with the dramatic montage of the lens haha , nice!

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😃

@HappyHappyJoyJoyCebu 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mr. Sulanto for the review. We appreciate your effort to risk yourself for the sake of Lumix users like me, despite the global pandemic crisis. Stay healthy, safe and God bless!

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@izuanalyahya5205 4 жыл бұрын

Aah, finally! Thank you for the review, Matti 😀 A lens with character is definitely on my list. Especially a 25mm that is missing from my bag.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks and your welcome.

@Princeton_James Жыл бұрын

Thanks. You saved me several hundred. I always liked the M1. While weather sealing is great I dont need it here in southern CA.

@tobiasdavid3096 4 жыл бұрын

Trank you for the video. I think this lens is a very usefull update of the predecessor. The Mk.I was already very good. Just a bit slow, loud focusing and not weathersealed. They fixed that. I think my version I is sharper than my m.zuiko 25mm f1.2 pro. Subjectivly seen I assume.

@harpsnake 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, mark I makes a very clear rattling noise during focusing on my both G85 and GM1. It's a little bit spooky first time you hear it, but after couple of months / a year you get used to it.

@jennifergrainger2480 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review of this lens. Really like the sound of it. I understand what you mean about character. I've a Olympus OMD Mark II and bought the Pro 25mm lense but I find it too heavy. I've been inclined to sell it and keep the 12-40. In some ways I find my images lack the soul of my old images taken on film. Which is why I picked up a X100F I'm loving it. When I can get out to a camera store I'm going to check the Leica 25mm. It might help me reconnect to my OMD.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@aengusmacnaughton1375 4 жыл бұрын

I like my Lumix 25mm f1.7 -- was very affordable, not weather sealed and no stabilization, but for my photo and video purposes the quality is fine. Yes, the Leica 25mm f1.4 grabs a little more light and is now weather sealed, but -- for me -- it's not worth the additional cost for the Leica. I do not see a specific improved spec on the Leica lens which I need (enough) to justify spending all of that additional money compared to the Lumix 25mm f1.7. But that is me specifically and my needs/budget. If I made a living from my photography and videography (don't I wish!!!) -- then moving up to the Leica lens would almost certainly happen -- in the long run the improved features over the 25mm f1.4 would definitely be worth the investment. But thank you for the time checking out that lens -- and considering the various types of "stay at home" orders across the world -- Finland is a beautiful country (even in the Lumi!), so if you are able to get out, and keep a distance from other people -- do it. I can still do that and it is helping keep me sane!

@idkanymore3382 Жыл бұрын

stop it, lmao. The Leica destroys the Vario. I own both and its not even a slight contest. You need some money bro

@walterzannoni 2 жыл бұрын

the best of best lens (for me)

@Began2011 4 жыл бұрын

I hope Leica makes the 42.5mm 1.2 or even lumix with the 1.7 with weather sealing.

@johannesgeenen4169 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that review. Now I know that (a) I don't need to replace my Mk I 25mm lens and (b) how to solve the lens hood flaw. I used a chinese generic 46mm lens hood, which works fine but looks ugly because of the unused bayonet mount. A spare H-ES045 lens hood is easy to get on the big river or the electronic bay. -- Best, Johannes

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Always happy if my videos help even a bit.

@JeevesTCW 2 жыл бұрын

Love the lens but agree 100% Matti about the hood. I don't have the 45mm macro to switch hoods so my work around with my street outfit bag is to leave the 25mm on my GX9 without the hood, and then place the 25mm hood over the bottom half of the Leica 15mm lens and put that in its pouch so it takes up almost no more space than having the 15mm with me.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing that tip.

@daysofgrace2934 9 ай бұрын

I think mk. 2 does video too. I pretty much use with E-M10 mk 1 90% of the time. I have the Oly pancake zoom & consumer zoom, both F2 Pro zooms & 45mm F1.8

@1fareast14 4 жыл бұрын

While I wish the optical formula had been revised, there are enough folks happy with it. My bigger hope is that more of the mft lineup gets revised with weather sealing. If the g90 and em5 bodies are sealed, there should be enough small primes to put on them, not just this lens and the oly 60mm macro.

@veganbodybuilding 4 жыл бұрын

I love the mk1, I use it enough I can justify checking out the mk2 😁

@mimstyle 2 жыл бұрын

Using the original since 2011 with the gx1 and upgrade for version two, I love this lens more now.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@davidcambon5115 4 жыл бұрын

I have been using version 1 of the 25mm F1.4 when I go bicycle touring. It's outdoors for weeks at a time but the weather does not seem to have affected it. I only take one lens with me on the bike so I have room to leave the hood on all the time. I did not notice the vignetting at F1.4 until you pointed it out. Now I think I am not good enough for this lens and I should probably have it taken away from me. I am also guilty of adding vignetting in Lightroom.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts, and don’t let anyone take the lens😀

@liutony4872 2 жыл бұрын

The corner sharpness issue: I first notice this problem when looking at the Fujifilm x100 series built-in f2 lens: at f2 the corners becomes a bit blurry, stop down to f2.8 the problem is gone. My guess is this problem happens when aperture is wide opened, some amount of light hitting the sensor at an angle instead of straight down. By stopping down even one stop the aperture cut off the angled light.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@D_L_J_83 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review! Does the Mark II lens have focus breathing? The Mark 1 had quite a bit of focus breathing, I’m hoping the new one fixes it so it’ll be much better for video

@philipbutler5934 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a used mark 1 and am finding it a sharp and interesting lens, though I haven't had a chance to take many photos with it yet. Now that the mark 2 is well established, the original version can be picked up at reasonable cost. I don't take many photos in the rain, and if I do I'm more likely to use the 12-60mm kit zoom, which is weather sealed and with that I don't need to change lenses. On the subject of noisy diaphragm, I have found this lens is quite noisy on my Panasonic GX8, but only in manual mode. Every time I focus, the lens goes to maximum aperture, with a click, then pressing the shutter button causes the aperture to close to the value I set with another click. I usually shoot in A mode though and it is not noticeable then, unless in silent shutter mode. Other lenses go through the same open/closed sequence with every shot, but their diaphragms are pretty much silent.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@adrianwhareham8921 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review Matti , for me the 25mm 1.7 is not only better value of money , and you can reverse the lens hood , I am finding it hard to find something that the 25mm 1.4 can do that I can't do with the 25mm 1.7 other than the weather sealing , that is a lot of money to shoot in the rain .

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's hard to say, if it's better or worse. It depends how you define better. If you are happy with your Lumix 25mm, which by the way is a great lens, keep on shooting on that. I have a comparison video of these two lenses on my channel, but there's no direct shot by shot comparison. If you are interested, please browse the channel.

@adrianwhareham8921 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto Hi Matti I have seen the video comparison , and all of the other M 4/3 videos .

@user-hp6lg3tm7d Жыл бұрын

Great video! I've been thinking about getting the Leica 25mm F1.4 II for my Lumix G9, which currently has the Olympus M.Zuiko 25mm F1.8 lens. Although a great lens, it unfortunately has no weather sealing. It is currently rainy season here in NYC, and this lens will definitely allow me to capture street photos in the rain.

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I hope you'll like the lens.

@photogenic2010 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't know about the MK ii, Thanks. (I am thinking buying 15 or 25 for film making).

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Panasonic didn't make much noise about the MkII.

@Caracalaba 4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping they would make it in the same style as the 15 f1.7

@belhamelschoten 4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, with an aperture ring.

@kentmemories 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review.. Unlike others, your review is not just about spec sheet, but also your opinions on lens, and I agree that this lens has a "character", not found on others.. I think it's better if you have more sample images and video output too, especially how much AF speed improve? This lens along with Leica DG 15 and 42.5 are one of the reasons I stick with m4/3. However, if I have a wish, I would ask Panasonic to make Leica DG quality lens in 20mm FL too..

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jordandunlop5629 7 ай бұрын

I am starting to get swayed by the fuji's consistent brand improvements........ but if there was a leica 20 mm in the mix for m43 I will certainly stay put!

@thomask.7863 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting review! I bought the lens two month ago and didn't regret it. Sharpness ist excellent for my taste. I couldn't see any real difference to my former 25 1.8 olympus. Also AF is silent compared to the first version of the lens which I borrowed from a friend. It's all subjective of course. And well it is pricy and I miss the aperture ring which other leica lenses got. Though I really enjoy using it for full portraits and street photography. I am still wondering why Panasonic didn't do any marketing for it. By the way, your tip using the 45mm macro lenshood works fine and it's much more convenient than the bulky original one! I just ordered it with the lens as an accessory. Thanks, Thomas

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@2Old4Toys 4 жыл бұрын

What is the equivalent to in F stop to full frame 50mm?

@jonlouis2582 4 жыл бұрын

If I could only have one lens, this would be it. Mine is old and I love it.

@MrJapanforce 4 жыл бұрын

great lens.it is a legendary lens in MFT system . bokeh is gorgeous. it is the king of 50mm (full frame eq.) for the MFT system. i own that lens and also the 15mm 1.7. i d like to carry only one lens for almost everything paired with my sigma 56mm 1.4.which one of the two would you suggest and why? thank you

@framefeels 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. I going to buy it next March in Japan. I actually worried about the rattle noise. :)

@mattisulanto 5 ай бұрын

As far as I know the rattle comes from the aperture and it's completely normal. It's a really nice lens.

@framefeels 5 ай бұрын

@@mattisulanto thank you so much. ☺️

@8thom00 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Matti, I'll add one more 'complaint' (not really a complaint, rather a disappointment) to the non-updated hood: the non-updated focus ring - I really don't enjoy much the rubber, and having had the 15mm and currently owning the 8-18mm, I'd definitely say Panasonic was lazy not to improve that, it really makes a lot of difference to me for what concerns the look and feel. Anyway, I'm really enjoying this lens and I hope a few more smallish weather-sealed primes will come :)

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you input. True, it's not a major update.

@8thom00 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto Thanks to you for all the useful info and kind opinions.

@stockholmgrapher 2 жыл бұрын

I recently got it second hand for a reasonable price. Even if like the build quality i still can see enough big difference comparing it to Lumix g 25. The AF reminds me on Lumix 20. 😅 However, I’ll keep it as it looks great in my bag, together with PL8-18 and PL12-60.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@yinwingwong290 4 жыл бұрын

good choice it is now below usd500 in Hong Kong now

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Not a bad price.

@aengusmacnaughton1375 4 жыл бұрын

Matti -- put the cap back on!!!!! :-)

@valdiskrebs566 4 жыл бұрын

Nice monochromes!

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

I've never considered weather sealing to be a huge plus point for this type of lens. Do we use it in the shower? During inclement weather do we want to be outside taking photos? We can get an "atmospheric" look but the light is usually poor. Unless they're gas tight vapour can get in and we get condensation. It is an old design and maybe Leica favoured a fine accurate focus rather than a fast one on the Mark 1. It's a lens I traded when I should have kept it. Perhaps Panasonic have improved the focus motors but it is the camera that does the auto-focusing not the lens. A very sharp lens stopped down a little, very good clarity.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

@lfcmarkeb7124 4 жыл бұрын

I think the G Vario version is more than good enough. (although is subject to focus shift)

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

That is an excellent and budget friendly option.

@mfreider 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Very nice review, review of photographer not 'spec examiner'. 100% with you on the hood but I still like it. I looks cool :) and protect lens absolutely well. Rendering is classical. I would say rangefinder era style. Love bokeh. You need sharpness? Set 2-2.8 and you got amazing sharpness which still keeps its character. But don't be afraid of f/1.4 just used it appropriately, matching your picture. Weather sealing - yes! yes! It works, main reason for me to get this one. It makes my OM EM5mkIII lightweight, all weather shooting machine. It works flawlessly there. If you like 50mm in FF, this is one is must to have.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment.

@boombalancehub6844 Жыл бұрын

Can you advise me how to reduce rattlesnake sounds of 25/1.4 leica on Em5 mark3

@mfreider Жыл бұрын

@@boombalancehub6844 There are few videos claiming a “fix” but I do not think it exist ;) it is just a feature of aperture motor in lens. Recently I upgraded firmware on lens to 1.2 version and it seems helps a little bit but not 100% cure :(

@boombalancehub6844 Жыл бұрын

@@mfreider Firmware update in lens is similar with firmware update in camera body right?

@mfreider Жыл бұрын

@@boombalancehub6844 If you have Panasonic body, yes it is exactly same process - camera will detect firmware and if it is for lens , it will run update. Honestly, I never tried to update Panasonic lens using Olympus body but I think it should be similar. Better to check Olympus manual.

@ezekielfernandez4077 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks... First youtube review ive seen of this lens... Im kinda looking for a 25mm that kinda is on the level of my 42.5 1.2 nocticron tho i feel spoiled by rhat lens.. I currently own the 25 1.7 and 15 1.7

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I really like the 25mm F1.4 and in my opinion it would be a good pair to the 42,5mm F1.2, but maybe quite not as sharp. They make similar kind of photos though, which is important.

@ezekielfernandez4077 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto thanks! I hope u can review also the 12mm 1.4

@rafaelabarca5597 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Matti, I have this lens MK2 in a GH5., It is normal to have a rattling sound when changing the aperture? and focus? Thank you for your comments about this issue.

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

The aperture mechanism can make a rattling sound and it's normal.

@LyndonPatrickSmith 4 жыл бұрын

Really interesting comment about how this lens is like a vintage lens with a MFT mount and autofocus. I totally agree. I used to use version 1 of this lens with an Olympus EM5ii, and there was aperture chatter like crazy. Now I use it on a GX85 with no aperture chatter problems. Interesting. Another interesting thing about version 1 of this lens is that it has never seen a firmware update: it’s still 1.0. That either means it was perfect the first time - or more likely - the lens is incapable of firmware updates. No matter - I like it and it’s staying in my camera bag.

@mufathur4 4 жыл бұрын

I have the mk1 version and use it on my GH5. The rattling noise is there, especially when changing aperture in video mode. I can hear it clearly

@erstereiheTV 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for letting me know, I have a Sigma 30 1.4 - no noise at all, so I better stick to that.

@charleyb4424 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mr Sulanto for another great video. I always enjoy your informative videos. I also enjoy Mr Forsgard's videos. I use mostly Oly primes and 2 Pan zoom lenses on my Oly EM10ii camera. I also own and use Pan Leica 15mm. I would also like to see videos about using Panasonic lenses Olympus bodies, and I'm sure others would like to see videos about using Oly lenses on Pan bodies. Those kind of cross brand videos are rare, but are very useful to micro 4/3 users. Perhaps you and Mr Forsgard could pool your resources to make some videos like that? Regarding "rattlesnaking" aka rattling of aperature blades of Pan Leica 25mm Mark 1 when used on Olympus bodies... I have not personally used that lens camera combination, but I know other photographers who use Pan Leica 25mm older and newer Oly cameras. They told me that a firmware update fixed that in older Olympus cameras with Pan lenses, and that newer Oly cameras don't have that issue. From what they told me, it sounds like a camera firmware update is the cure for older cameras. If I had that issue, I'd try updating firmware of camera and lens.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

We have been working on the topic for some time, but just not managed to pull it together. Right now it's difficult to make any content that requires physical contact, but we'll figure out something.

@kkcheng1402 4 жыл бұрын

Great review! One question, compare with lumix 20mm 1.7, which one is sharper ?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! There are so many possible comparisons😀

@mimstyle 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same lens version 2, all bottom is in metal you maybe not notice it 😁 Still version 1.0 not working well in AF video with olympus bodies (only em1x and e-m1 mark iii work great) even e-m5 mark III can't handle AF in video. It's a shame panasonic do nothing for video and other bodies. Using this lens sinds 2011 for photography is very good (olympus 17mm 1.8 beat it in colors reproduction) the 25mm it's a bit fade but my second choice. I have no problem with sharpness in the center I found the DOF is slightly stronger than the previous version (I said slightly) Thank you for the video!

@Jaymino_ 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, does the 25mm version II still have loud aperture?

@mimstyle 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jaymino_ yes but in certain condition I don't understand yet (since 2011 using it) never happend with my om-1

@Jaymino_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@mimstyle Thank you so much for the reply.

@whipsnadepoacher 5 ай бұрын

Olympus has had the 25mm f1.2, weather sealed, for years.

@Mir1189 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I hope my last photo set was at least a bit of inspiration. 2. The rattling noise - definitely NOT a lens issue: a) I came around a video of a fellow Olympus user who reported the issue on Mark I of this lens. He had to disable Flicker Reduction, and the rattling noise was gone. b) I was able to replicate this issue on M.Zuiko 75mm f1.8 and M.Zuiko 45m f1.8 on my M10 and M5 Mark III bodies. Again, disabling Flicker Reduction fixed the issue. I dont have any Lumix body to test it, but as far I can tell, its not a lens issue. I cant wait until my Summilux 25mm F1.4 arrives, however it was delayed :D

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that info. I have to try if the flicker reduction makes any difference. If I can hear the rattle, that is. I still think the sound comes from the aperture that is opening and closing rapidly.

@Mir1189 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto It is aperture, but it behaves that way only when Flicker reduction was enabled.

@hauke3644 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! I was always annoyed be the rattling. I can confirm that it is present with all my Olympus bodies,but not with Lumix. Turning off flicker reduction reduces the effect on my PEN-F, but not completely. I think that the older Olympus cameras haven’t that option, at least I can’t find it. The AF is slow with these cameras, definitely slower than with the M.Zuiko 25mm that I had before. Seems that this is a Lumix-only lens - which is a pity, because I love the bokeh. (That’s why I traded the M.Zuiko in.)

@gofros8052 4 жыл бұрын

Hello I got this lens (25mm f1. 4 mkII) one week ago with a Lumix DC-G9 and the first thing that surprised me it's the rattling noise. The aperture makes an awful sound wh en the light suddenly changes. Ex: indoor you spot a dark area and then the window. Panasonic support told me this is normal. I thought about returning this lens but I really want this focal and aperture.

@Mir1189 4 жыл бұрын

@@gofros8052 Mine arrived just today, i want to test it tomorrow (its Mark II version btw). 1. To fix rattling noise, disable Flicker Reduction. 2. This is rather a new experience i got with this lens, but i realized it was similar with Vario 35-100 F2,8... Shortly after i started to test it, the lens wasnt so good at focusing and focusing might be a bit noisy at first. After some using the noise was gone and the focusing was much more smooth. You know after manufacturing and lying at the shop for months, some mechanical parts might be dry. After a while the old will get to all mechanical parts and its ok.

@MasterFangus Жыл бұрын

Hi Matti, thanks for the video! Is the AF of this lens quiet enough?

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

The aperture makes some noise, but it has never been distracting to me.

@vicibox 4 жыл бұрын

A great review but, the chromatic aberration is a deal breaker; its the reason I never bought the MkI. I guess it was silly to expect them to correct this without changing the fundamental optical design. I will stay with my Lumix 25mm f1.7 which is a fantastic lens. I have to say you are the only person I have seen raise this problem in a lens review along with Hugh Brownstone and that hybrid chap. Gosh I so hate modern lens designs, what is wrong with these people that they think increasing sharpness and lens speed compensates for chromatic aberration and bending corrections into firmware. No I dont think I will happily remove this in post, I edit it with my credit card; I dont buy uncorrected lenses. I no longer buy Zeiss lenses as chromatic aberration seems to be a hallmark of their design process. Frankly it stinks. I even had this problem on a brand new Leica Summicron and sold it at once. Its time photographers understood that if they don't make a stand against this rubbish in optical design that we will soon only be able to buy uncorrected lenses that are dependent on firmware to provide a usable image, thus tying the lens to the camera body; when they change the system basics you will have to buy new glass. You have been warned ;-)

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your well rationalized opinion.

@ruuddirks5565 4 жыл бұрын

The square lens hood is indeed a nuisance for travel. But at least it is a real lens hood, not an airy butterfly model, one size fits all focal lengths.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Sure, it's not all bad. Just not a very good design.

@renaissance6745 4 жыл бұрын

I prefer to travel as light as possible; I'm currently using a GH4 camera and one lens (50mm Leica Summilux f 1.4). The 50mm lens is a wonderful lens, and its field of view is virtually what humans see. I really don't see the necessitity to carry lots of different focal length lenses . If I want telephoto I simply walk closer If I require wide angle, I walk further away. Another point I would like to take you up on this lens is I have never ever experienced any chromatic aberration with this lens, also is I have never experienced any Moray likewise also absolutely no vignette , this lens is absolutely superb and optically I would hold it up to a German made 50 mm any day , at f1.4 wide open the optical quality is amazing

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience.

@eagleeyephoto8715 4 жыл бұрын

As Olympus user I remember that MK1 lens has horrible fringing (purple) and boekeh fringing on Olympus body's where this lens is not corrected. Other thing is the stepper motor,does it still grinding?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

My answers are in the video, please watch it.

@SirKober 3 жыл бұрын

Does this the mk2 version come with a linear manual focus as most other Leica branded lenses or does it have the jumpy one known from the lumix ones?

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know Lumix lenses had jumpy MF, I have never experienced that. All my lenses have smooth MF.

@SirKober 3 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto With the term jumpy I mean that the distance the focus travels depends on the speed you're moving it... which makes it almost impossible to use for video. The Leica branded lenses however don't do that. At least all newer ones.

@fansofER 4 жыл бұрын

Great review! I have the mark I. I was wondering your thoughts on the performance of the 25/1.4 mark II vs. the 10-25/1.7 at 25mm

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

I may have something coming up for you. Not a full comparison, but something😀 Stay tuned.

@bosamuelsson5814 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It is big different betwin this lens and Lumix 25mm F1,7?

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I guess it's a matter of taste if the difference is big or small. I think they have a different look that you can see.

@GPadugan 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I agree 100% about sharpness and pixel peeping etc. However, for the sake of argument, what would be the lens to try if you were interested in pixel peeping and sharpness? I say this because I have the Pana Leica, 15mm, 42.5mm, and 50-200mm. I also have the 12-35 f2.8 & the 20mm f1.7 The images are great, but they are not to be pixel peeped. I always thought this was a M43 thing and not lens thing. Interested in your thoughts.

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I suppose high megapixel photos shot on a good lens are most satisfying, if you want to pixel peep.

@GPadugan 3 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto I just thought the Leica lenses for Panasonic were the best lenses in M43. Is there a lens that is "the best" in terms of corner to corner sharpness?

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

@@GPadugan I have not tested that, but I'm sure someone has, if you google😀

@MrGoodcat1 4 жыл бұрын

Is there any difference in image quality between Mark I and Mark II ?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

No, as far as I know.

@nore8141 2 жыл бұрын

I like the lens but on the fence. The Sigma 30mm is a really nice lens. What do you think I should buy? Great video and commentary as usual.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I can't decide for you. If you don't know what to buy, don't buy anything😀

@seyedmahdiamiri4924 2 жыл бұрын

I already have the Mark 1 and am not sure if I should upgrade to the Mark 2. The weatherproofing is not that important to me! As long as the image quality is the same, I'll stick with my Mark 1.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

No need to upgrade.

@Leptospirosi 4 жыл бұрын

Honest review as always. I think this lens excells at portrait, when you need the full figure in the frame with a controlled background, and it has some use as a compact night lens for the wide aperture it allows. Other then that, it is a perfectly fin e lens once stopped down. There problem is how good the f1.7 and f1.8 25mm are wide open for a fraction of the price. Here you get half a stop more light and weather sealing still in a relatively compact lens without getting into the huge f1.2 playground. Color fringing is not good through especially if noticeable with all the in body correction that modern lumix already perform it is a potty they did not upgrade the optics to match the quality of the 15mm, which also has some color fringing problems, but not to those extent

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you comment.

@keithholland4322 4 жыл бұрын

How do the sharpness and chromatic aberration compare to other 25 and 30 mm lenses for micro four thirds? Is there any "normal" or "standard" lens for micro four thirds that produces sharp images without green or purple fringing at an aperture brighter than f/2.8? Also, is the chromatic aberration from this lens only produced in the extreme corners as the DXOMARK tests would suggest or do you see that throughout the frame?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what to say. I think all MFT standard lenses, that I have tried, make sharp and good looking pictures. Some pixel peep more than others, some think a lens is soft and some think the same lens is sharp.

@keithholland4322 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto That's what I've been noticing. I wonder if it's a quality control issue. For example, dxomark.com shows the 25mm f/1.7 lens to be very soft throughout most of the frame until it is stopped down a LOT. On the other hand, imaging-resource.com is just gushing with praise for the sharpness of that lens! So far, I have found it to be adequate for my purposes. In fact, the only lens I've sold so far because of problems with the image quality was the Olympus 45mm f/1.8. The chromatic aberration was just making for a lot of extra work in post production, so I traded it for a Panasonic 42.5mm f/1.7 and I've had no issues with that lens. While there are a few micro four thirds lenses, such as the Olympus 75mm f/1.8 and Sigma 56mm f/1.4 that everyone seems to agree have impeccable optics, with the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7, Olympus 25mm f/1.8, Panasonic/Leica 25mm f/1.4, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, and Olympus 25mm f/1.2, it seems to depend on who you ask and none of them seem to be anything particularly remarkable.

@sandywilliams3948 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Matti, I have been watching your videos for some time. I noticed you saying that Leica DG 1.4 version one or two are not the sharpest lenses in the Lumix library. Which lens is sharper than Leica 25mm 1.4? Aren't prime lenses the best option for sharp pictures?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Well, it's a sharp lens, but not in a modern way. Like I said in the video it makes beautiful photos, which is much more important than sharpness. When people ask for the sharpest lens, I like say, that if the lack of sharpness is your biggest problem in photography, you are lucky. My biggest problem has always been how do I find an interesting story to tell, how to find interesting content.

@sandywilliams3948 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto Well said Matti, but you still don't answer the question of which lens is sharper in a modern way than Leica 25mm 1.4? Does something prevent you from answering the question?

@androidgameplays4every13 Жыл бұрын

How would you compare this 25mm F1.4II lens against the Panasonic 20mm F1.7II (which I already own) in terms of sharpness, color and speed? would you consider it an upgrade? or should I seek elsewhere? thank you.

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

I have both lenses but have not tested them side by side. You can find lab tests on both lenses, if you want scientific proof. My opinion is that the 20mm is slightly sharper wide open, but that evens out stopped down. The 25mm AF is superior to the 20mm. I have no opinion on the color. I like both lenses and I don't think they are alternatives, because they are so different.

@AkaiMiso 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, It looks like it's still a solid lens, but is the weather sealing reliable on Olympus bodies? Has Olympus, Panasonic or any other maker of M43 lenses made an official comment on cross compatibility when it comes to weather sealing? I have seen an * in the specs, on some sites next to the weather sealing where it says, "When used on Panasonic bodies". Would someone please create a video, or would you please discuss it in the upcoming Live chat?

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

I think that is just a normal disclaimer, they can't be responsible for other than their own products. It's the same lens whether it's mounted on Panasonic or Olympus.

@AkaiMiso 2 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto Thank you for the reply. They have a separate disclaimer that they do not guarantee that the lens will not be damaged even on Panasonic bodies, so why would they need a footnote that says it is weather sealed IF it is on a Panasonic body? Could it be related to the reports of gaskets problems while mounted to Olympus mounts? I've been reading about it since 2016, but have never heard or read anything officially from the makers. I have accepted that it is a best effort scenario, and am impressed with my Olympus weather sealed pro lenses while on Olympus weather sealed bodies. I think that the PL 25 F1.4II is a great deal considering the cost of the Olympus 25 F1.2, but wish that there were at least assurances of compatibility for physical attributes such as the gasket at the mount which is the key component for weather sealing. So what it really boils down to is to continue improving the standard moving forward. Thanks again for so many wonderful videos.

@jeromedelaune9789 3 жыл бұрын

Hope Panasonic, weather-sealing the whole prime lenses range

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

That would be nice.

@yourtallness 4 жыл бұрын

Panasonic's marketing strategy is baffling: let's not make any money on this lens

@spinninghirmu2966 4 жыл бұрын

Matti, I have a Mki, without the silver ring. So the ring is removed from production even before the Mkii . Br Tommi

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, didn't know that. Thanks.

@gsansoucie 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. I couldn’t agree more about concerns for sharpness and vignetting. I’m looking to possibly replace my OM 28mm f/2.8 for my OM-10 and OM-1 that I use on my E-M5 Mk2 with an adapter. I’d like something a little faster, and this f/1.4 looks like it would fit the bill. The Olympus 50mm f/1.2 Pro looks to be too big and too expensive for my use.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! This lens could be the one for you.

@artistjoh 3 жыл бұрын

There are several good AF alternatives from both Panasonic and Olympus. The Panny 1.7 and Oly 1.8 focus a little closer, which is useful, but this Panasonic Leica 1.4 has always produced very likeable images and is my first choice. Of course for manual focus it is hard to go past the Voigtländer 0.95, and that has even more character. Love that old style character.

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment.

@andrewkunyev5243 Жыл бұрын

Looking to buy this lens for my Olympus em1 m2. But some reviewers say that it may not maintain weather sealing on Olympus due to different sizes of the rubber rings. Do you know anything about this? Thank you

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

I have never heard of this problem. The mount is exactly the same on both Olympus and Panasonic, so it would be weird if there is a problem regarding the seal.

@andrewkunyev5243 Жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto Here is what I found on the internet. "The position of the screws holding the mount to the camera are further away from the centre on Oly cameras than Panasonic cameras. As a result, the weather-sealing ring on some Panasonic lenses sits on top of the screws meaning that the seal is not effective."

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

@@andrewkunyev5243 Someone says the seal is not effective. Is that a fact or is it speculation? Has someone tested the seal and compared to Olympus and then arrived to that conclusion? All I can say that if you think the seal is a dealbreaker for you then look elsewhere. If you think that the seal probably does the job in your shooting conditions, go for it.

@wqwave 4 жыл бұрын

Really nice review. Is there difference in performance or focusing between this and M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 25mm F1.2 PRO? Thinking of getting either with Panasonic G9. Thank you!

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have not used the Zuiko and therefore can't comment, unfortunately.

@wqwave 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto no problem. Thank you for your reply!

@wqwave 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto would you recommend this or another lens for landscape type photos? 😁

@georgemohring5348 Жыл бұрын

If I have the pany 1.7 is thus worth the upgrade?

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

I guess it depends on what you value in your photography, what you shoot and what your budget is. It's another lens, a bit different rendering etc. Your photos are not going to look dramatically different, but you'll see subtle changes depending on your shooting style.

@NathenDanforth Жыл бұрын

Matti, can you please tell me about the hand strap?

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

The strap is a one off made by my daughter long time ago.

@NathenDanforth Жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto thanks for the reply! Very cool, and talented daughter.

@mrbranch 4 жыл бұрын

How much would be a good pice for the 1st gen if i buy preowned?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

I think it’s better to look at ebay or other stores that sell used cameras.

@edwardmaddocks2779 3 жыл бұрын

Does it have inbuilt stabilisation?

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

In the video at 5:44, please watch😀

@jinjiang3875 Жыл бұрын

does is have noise when focusing

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

No.

@khrisevangelista 4 жыл бұрын

That lens hood looks waaay better than the original!!

@khrisevangelista 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto overall, the lens looks better with the lens hood from your macro lens. The picture quality as you said, remained the same. I've been contemplating on this lens for quite sometime and it seems that I can now get the Mk 1 version for a cheaper price.

@kevinrodrigues5974 4 жыл бұрын

It looks like a Leica g with the hood on

@LegendaryGauntlet 4 жыл бұрын

The LOCA is annoying for color photography. I usually tend to prefer apochromatic lenses that offer an out-of-camera picture that needs almost no work apart from the usual levels and white balance... I do like this lens compactness though and i've been doing "run and gun" style with it during events and such, and it's a pleasure to carry it around it's so light and well made.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment and opinion.

@user-iu7lw2hd6x Жыл бұрын

Hello! I have a question regarding the panasonic leica 25mm f.14 lens. I have just bought the version 2 of it and experiencing this weird and strange grinding autofocus noise when the camera tends to hunt for focus. It I set it to AFS or let the camera do the autofocus by itself it does not make this noise. But if I set it to AFF or AFC and when I keep the shutter halfway pressed in order for it to aquire focus and if it hunts it makes a noise like it is grinding 2 pieces of metal. I am curious if someone else has this issue or it is normal behaviour of this lens. Thanks!

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

It's difficult to say what your problem is without handling the lens, but it should not hunt or make grinding noise.

@user-iu7lw2hd6x Жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto If I could find another lens from a shop in my country I would have bought another one to compare, but I cannot find another one, that's why I asked here :) Thanks again for your time!

@user-iu7lw2hd6x Жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto And also I forgot to mention that it only hunts in low light situation, like indoor with semi low light from the normal light bulbs.

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

@@user-iu7lw2hd6x I hope you'll eventually find out what it was or get a replacement. I'm not a brand ambassador any more and therefore don't have any better recourses regarding Lumix than anyone else.

@user-iu7lw2hd6x Жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto Thanks again! I asked here because I hope that somebody has the lens and can help with a test on their camera with this lens with the settings I have mentioned to see if they have the same sound.

@lfcfanatic 4 жыл бұрын

Annoyed Panasonic didn't bother to add power O.I.S and/or aperture ring. Sigh.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

When you say ”didn’t bother” it sounds like you think adding IS and aperture ring are some minor add ons. I agree, that those would be very nice, but it would have required a complete new lens design.

@ArnFilmmaker 3 жыл бұрын

How good the autofocus with this lens for video?

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

I have not used it much for video, but based on my experience the AF works fine.

@ArnFilmmaker 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@Weider63 4 жыл бұрын

That's a good portrait lense, why you are not showing us some good portraits?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Because it's kind of not a good idea right now to arrange a portrait shoot. I'm trying not get too close to anyone right now. When this virus situation is over, maybe I'll make some portraits.

@Weider63 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto but you can make a self-portrait using the lumix app 🤔

@kleinkurti 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like the Sigma 30mm is still the better lense, except for the extra 5mm

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

It all depends what you are looking for.

@hauke3644 3 жыл бұрын

Right, I have both and don’t find a relevant difference in the optical performance. The Sigma has a much more attractive price, but it’s somewhat bulky and not weather-sealed.

@patricklarcebal2827 4 жыл бұрын

Bonjour. Y a t'il d'autres différences que la tropicalisation avec la première version ? Je vous remercie

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

Like I said in the video, I'm not sure, but it looks like that.

@mrinsaf 4 жыл бұрын

When is lumix going to release gx10

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

That's a good question, but I don't have the answer.

@WhoIsSerafin 4 жыл бұрын

Well be lucky if the world doesn’t come out of this in a Great Depression so I think new cameras will be a awhile

@octavioquintana1153 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe on 2021

@bamsemh1 4 жыл бұрын

Does it work smoothly on olympus?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

My answer is in the video, please watch it.

@bamsemh1 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto I saw it costs almost the same as the Olympus 25mm 1.2 here. I was wondering if it would be more like the 25mm 1.8 in price.

@wyeunghk 3 жыл бұрын

4:32 Len hood from 45mm F2.8 (H-ESO45)...buy and good fit ....thanks !

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Always happy to help😀

@pauldby1479 4 жыл бұрын

I cant believe they kept that crappy lens hood on MK2!

@nurbeckistan 4 жыл бұрын

25mm in Micro 4/3 its a 50mm?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

It's a 25mm lens, that has approximately the same angle of view as a 50mm full frame lens.

@nurbeckistan 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto and F1.4 must be 2.8 ?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

No, it’s F1.4, but the depth of field is approximately the same as F2.8 on a 50mm full frame lens.

@ralfpieper1290 3 жыл бұрын

Trank you for this Test. I know that you are Panasonic Ambassador and still I find the test statements neutral. Best regards

@mattisulanto 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@Varillah 2 жыл бұрын

Bro I know your video is old, but the lens literally tells you which is MK1 and MK2 by the product code H-X025 is MK1 and H-XA025 is MK2 🤣

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

So? Of course there is a code.

@Varillah 2 жыл бұрын

@@mattisulanto yes but the code helps you tell them apart when buying, which helps to spot their year of manufacturing easy than trying to look for something like a sliver ring.

@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын

The ring is much easier to see than the code, but of course you also check the code before you buy.

@vermontmike9800 4 жыл бұрын

Its a photographers lens? What does that mean? That’s the type of M43 apologist excuse that Robin Wong and Peter Forsgard use all the time. If sharpness doesn’t matter, then why bother paying a premium price for this lens? Just get the Panny f1.7 or Oly f1.8 instead. Same as Fuji X-photographers say about the Xpro3. “If you don’t like the new back flip screen, don’t buy it, It’s a photographers camera anyway,”. Brand loyalists who will follow loyally and not call a spade a spade. Simply say, “while this Panny Leica is a nice lens, it’s not worth the extra cash compared to the existing 25mm lenses in the system”.

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

I knew this comment was coming, but like I said, this lens is not for everyone. I made it very clear that if you are a pixel peeper, do not buy this. Had I recommened this lens without any reservations would have been "brand loyalism". I also made it clear that is one choice among the super sharp contemporary designs. I really like this lens and use it a lot and I wouldn't use it, if I didn't like it. Not everyone understands the difference between a sharp photo and a beautiful photo and there is nothing wrong with that. We all look at photography from so many different angles. Like I've said many times before, there is no right or wrong in photography. So, keep up the good work and choose the best lens for you.

@vermontmike9800 4 жыл бұрын

sulantoblog don’t get me wrong, I get some of what you’re saying. It’s the reason I still use M43 gear and haven’t bought into another system. Some of the best photos in the would weren’t pin sharp, but when Olympus or Panny release a lens or camera just for the sake of releasing something new, it irks me. They put a rubber seal on this thing and said, voila. Be bold (taking about M43 in general) or go home.

@soundknight Жыл бұрын

@@vermontmike9800 I took it to mean that the lens produces a pleasing image aesthetic but it has technical issues that people who prefer sharpness, cool strategic looking images wouldn't care too much for. These leica lenses by Panasonic are well known for microcontrast (portrait qualities).

@hammingdistance 4 жыл бұрын

The CAs on this lens are really bad. Like in "I don't want to pay a premium for this quality"-bad. It took me some minutes to get rid of the CAs in post, when using this lens even in not soooo difficult light situations. Absolutely not recommended and for what it delivers at 1.4 definitely overpriced. Of course you can stop it down, but isn't the whole point of a wide aperture to use it?

@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын

I understand, some can't stand LoCA.

@upstairsatleseks7777 Жыл бұрын

Does it weathersealed when using on Olympus body? 🥹 I have no data about it.

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

Well, it's the same lens whether you mount it on Olympus or Panasonic and therefore the weather sealing is also the same.

@upstairsatleseks7777 Жыл бұрын

I asked this because I have some concern about changing from 12-40 2.8 to 10-25 1.7 I know that vario-summilux have WS but not quite sure the usability of WS when cross-using with OM body. now I have more confidence here, Thanks!

@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын

All weather sealed Lumix/Leica lenses have a gasket around the mount.