I just sent 300 pics I took yesterday of a flying bee next to a flower to the email address you provided, I expect compensation. And praise, of course

When Chris started saying "Welllllcommmme baaaaack..." I had to check to make sure I didn't have the playback speed set too low.

Thanks for the great reviews. I've never shot with an M, but sometimes I have a feeling that's where I'll end up. It's my density.

I feel like the majority of M users would prefer 24 megapixels with better low light. If low light is still great and Leica plans on using this sensor for more products, I guess it would make sense as an investment, but it kinda seems like they’re quickly jumping on the “more is better” bandwagon, when the M system has notoriously represented the opposite.

If you need EVF focusing on Leica M, you don’t need Leica M. It’s always funny how people trying to evaluate the fish by its ability to fly.

Some banging shots here Chris, specially the abstract ones like the puddle at 5:34. I have to say, the times I get jealous of you guys testing cameras is when you try the new Leicas and Hasselblads.

I greatly admire the analog Leica cameras (as I admire other analog/vintage/limited edition models), and if you really want to have a great camera and shoot film, maybe a limited edition that belonged to a photographer who inspired you, then a $8200 price may be justified, maybe - though I wouldn't pay it myself, but ok, to some people it might mean a lot and it is a piece of history. But when we're talking a digital mirrorless system in a retro camera body, let's see if we can justify an $8,2k price: The camera looks amazing when it's sitting on a table but has poor ergonomics when you hold it and almost no custom controls, which complicates its operation, a 1 million dot LCD and 2.4 million dot EVF that comes as a separate accessory - both of these are marketed as "high resolution" on their website, but honestly, I think we all know that almost any camera brand out there offers better LCD/EVF quality for how much less? The EVF accessory blacks out when taking photos which makes you wonder how does that work with a "burst" shot mode of 4.5 images/sec (are we serious?) I wouldn't even mention that - what is the rate of keeper frames on a rangefinder camera, and why would you even need a 4.5 frame a second feature, not to mention a rangefinder configuration limits the scenarios you could use a mirrorless system in, which makes you wonder how frustrating it can get when you realized how much you paid for a decidedly low rate of keeper frames. I'm also willing to bet Leica does not manufacture their sensors in-house so there is a good chance they have a custom-made and unbranded Sony sensor in the camera, that probably costs around the same price point as the sensor in the a7RIII or something. But there is no mention anywhere who manufactures Leica's sensors and Leica doesn't want you to start thinking about the electronics in their cameras because then you start doing the math and begin to realize that the price just doesn't add up. It's like they are the Apple of cameras. They'd much rather you thought of their $8200 camera as an ethereal entity descended from heaven, unmatched by competition, that will just make you a better photographer. That is simply not true. When you do the math, and add up the cost of the electronics in the camera, the cost of the camera body, the material, the paint, the lens and optics, I'm willing to bet you end up somewhere in the range of $1800 - $2000 if not slightly lower, not to mention that UHS-I on a camera of this price is simply insulting. Leica is piggybacking on their amazing analog legacy and adding a $6000 markup at minimum to their mirrorless lineup, but falls short to impress in my book. That is also not a very healthy long-term strategy. Just look at the swiss watch industry, which is now reeling as it begins to be replaced by smartwatches. History has taught us that you either adapt or pay the price. If Leica charged around $2000 for these cameras, that would be a really attractive value proposition for someone who wants to try something different. But $8200? I don't think so. To me this is a dishonest approach towards their target audience, who may have more money than the average consumer, but that still doesn't justify this practice. In my eyes at least, Leica's mirrorless cameras are a very confused offer, trying to cater to inexperienced but wealthy enthusiasts that care much more about the camera as a fashion statement, than what they can do with the camera, or what the camera can do for them. Also, what do you do with 40MP on a hand-held compact camera body? 40MP can be incredibly demanding on the lens, in terms of resolving details and can single out any issues with optical distortion or chromatic aberration, so that lens better be perfect. Who is this camera for again? Well paid lawyers from Switzerland who have no time to research cameras perhaps.

40mp sensors don't make sense on a rangefinder, which is a basic optical alignment device. If you have to resort to an EVF to nail focus, the analogue aspect is expensive decoration. Also, the examples look like every other digital camera file, no Leica magic there. It'll sell to people who think only Leica know how to make a camera, obviously.

I love how simple these cameras are. I hate how unobtainable these cameras are.

It’s not about the tech in The camera it’s how you actually shoot. I hate these videos that just complain about Leica’s lack of tech and sensors. Like I have so many ppl shooting leica Ms having no issue at all. We all shoot Manuel in campaigns or editorials with no problem I no what I’m doing and I know how to execute it. Same with any other camera.

All your reviews are so thorough and interesting at the same time. Thanks so much for all the effort you put in which in turn helps us select the camera that best suits us

I swear I laughed at that intro skit for 20 minutes.

$8300.00 for this camera? I'm been a pro for many years and the saying was that Leica was a rich amateurs camera. I don't think that's changed. But if you think spending close to 12K for a camera body and one semi wide angle lens that together are not all that great will make you a better photographer, go for it, it's your money.

Thanks for the photos and the overview of the new M. I have the M10 Monochrom and, as pointed out in the Red Dot Forum video on that camera, the high ISO performance of the new sensor (which was developed parallel to the one in the M10 R) allows you to set the camera to always use a faster shutter speed to avoid the effect of camera shake without giving up anything on image quality. I've tried that out on the Monochrom and it seems to work just fine. Also, as you noted, the sensor reflects the advances in technology since the previous 24 MP sensor was developed and that alone may be reason enough for some folks to want to upgrade to the new model. I agree the Visoflex is getting a little long in the tooth and I try to avoid using mine. I mainly use the rangefinder, which is kind of the point anyway. For walking-around photography I simply stop down and use either hyperfocal or zone focussing. Finally, it is also worth noticing that both the M10 Monochrom and M10-R are actually lower priced than the other models.

First. Nobody (unless doing commercial work) really needs 40Mp, I think with 24 we were just fine. Second. Stop complaining about the visoflex. These cameras are not conceive to shoot wit it. Just use the viewfinder or use a different camera. Third. Everything you complain about is because you really want the Leica M's to be a different camera. So go and use a different one! These cameras are not meant to photograph macro, sports, studio work, you name it .... You can, but they are not meant to be used for that. There is only one thing they are good at, and they are really good at it (probably the best camera for the job) ... Reportage. Yes there are photographers that use Leica M's for other than reportage, but we all know they are not really conceive for that. So, please, stop complaining. These cameras don't need to change. Please use the right tool for the job and don't pretend that all the camera manufacturers make the same cameras. Btw, big fan of you guys. Just not when you review a Leica M camera, LOL

Looking forward to the quiet shutter -off episode.

“Send your samples images to... “ *Nearly spits tea out*

I will be picking up My M10-R this weekend. By the way S1H output is real nice!

Awesome video! I laughed out-loud 3 times! You gents are such great reviewers!

That intro! :)

I want a Canadian citizenship so that I could live near such great guys. Beautiful country, beautiful Calgary.

Great camera. Shooting with a Leica is a unique experience. I've done it. Moved on. And the current price/value compared to the competition means I'll not be back that way again.

Dude don't not wear a mask inside, C'mon dude. Alberta's covid cases are up. Love your content keep it up.

Why I always like this feed; concise and a real honest appreciation of the pros and cons.

As usual, an honest and frank review. Well done.

Don't use a bloody evf on a m10 you Phillistine!

Excellent, and excellent !! If there was a Comedic Photography award, Hugh would get my vote ... edit that, YOU would get it, Chris !

Some very nice photos! No one else does reviews and takes nice pictures too. Love the M10-R, will be buying one. That 50mm APO-Summicron is ridiculously good, it's difficult to find a better lens in the world.

Where's the nikon z5 review? can't wait for Jordan's comprehensive review on that :P

I’ve been watching (and loving) you guys from early TCS days, and other than the Leica Monochrome review, it’s obvious that neither you nor dpreview enjoy shooting with Leica. And that’s fine. Most people don’t. But for those who do (like me), I’d love to get the perspective of a Leica expert so we can learn whether this camera has value for those already invested in the M system. What I would have loved to see is a shot for shot comparison of the M10 vs M10R, including the post-processing (because it looks like the M10R files are a bit flat SOOC). Maybe next time.

Jordan everytime I see the S1H, I want one. IC its your fav vid camera. I gotta get one.

"There are things that I dont "like as well..... (Leica's well....)" Small joke. Great review. Thansk.

I do hope the introduction of M10R means cheaper M10s on the second hand market

Continuous shots ? Really ? Look elsewhere if you want to run and gun around....

Actualy, Leica were the FIRST to remove the low pass filter with the M9.

Jordan, are you testing us again like you did with 90d episode? This episodes was far below your usual standards. The walk and talk section was rather choppy, the background noises sometimes quite pronounced and the editing not super coherent. Big fan usually, but this felt a bit rushed.

Don’t waste your money to change if you have the M10 unless so have plenty money and want 40mp which I don’t think that worth . 24mp is equivalent to film that is plenty , plus not all your Leica lens are good for this camera or old Leica lens .

Thanks Chris. Another good review.

Nice review. Love the honesty and humor. Keep it up 👍

what you call „the stupid foto“ is the best one. when will you have your coming out as an artist-photographer and leave behind you documentaryphotographie? also the flower picture reminds me Wolfgang Tillmanns. you do allready fotos but you dont want to think/feel them.

Despite whatever one says about Leica you gotta give points to Chris and his great camera fashion sense! Super digging the ultra minimalist style and rockin a camera slinger. Pew pew pew! Lol Just enough hipster vibe as to not be over the top! Well done

Overall vibe of this episode was wonderful, I hope you enjoy your Leica “unaware person, trash, graffiti Wall Street Photography” award

Without the in body stabilization or similar, these high megapixels will never see the lights unless we got a proper triple or very high shutter speed. Well... Maybe my M-P 240 will last for another 5 years now :D

I picked up a M10 "Betriebskamera" and a Leitz Canada 50mm f2 Summicron-M at the beginning of the year. I'm happy without IBIS's cost and complexity. Leica probably would have to introduce a new lens mount to avoid vignetting: I don't mind a bit of vignetting, but I don't want it randomly located because of where the sensor happened to be when I released the shutter. I let ISO be what it needs to be to give me minimum shutter speed 1/50 or I put marksmanship training to use to control breath and movement. Or I use a tripod. Or a brick wall (got a lovely nighttime shot of the Port of Oakland that way, at Jack London Square a few years ago, with a Fujifilm X100s. My wife wanted to know why I didn't include her in the composition: "You can't hold completely still for 3-secs., babe"). Or...

Thanks Chris for slowing down the intro. After all these videos it still took me a few repeats to figure out what you were saying. lol

Just let Leica M being it itself It might be lack in some "technical" aspects but it still is Leica M, which is the single most legendary camera line that has been consistent since the 50s.

If you don't win a Pulitzer for that photo I will eat my hat. LOL

Great Job Chris and Jordan. I'm shooting an old Leica iiif and it has a separate magnified focusing window like a telescope for critical focus but that feature was removed from the M cameras, real shame it was perfect.

Did I hear that right 40mp with only a UHS-I card!? For $8300, at least update the card slot. Lol

Nice CosySpeed bag you're rocking there Chris Nichols....... 📷👍

Excellent review. I had no less than 9 Leica’s at one time with 4 being digital. However the M9-P and Monochrom had sensor issues and even though the M9-P had no signs of degration the value plummeted. my Leica Q is with Leica for dust cleaning off the sensor - a design fault but I had to pay. So that’s going the same way as the M9-P and mono0chrom and I will have the X1 only. That and 5 Leica film cameras which have never let me down. So for over £7,000 for the Leica M10-R, I will give it a miss. Great review though.

Great review! you guys just saved me 20,000 Dollars that I didn't have anyway.

I liked to be teased that way in the first 7 seconds 👍

"Photography Bingo" LOL

Just heard the other comment where you say Leica is always generations behind in image quality. 😱 omg.... are you f.... kidding me.

I've never had my hands on a Leica M10. Does it really worth all those money or it is just a status symbol? I have a Nikon Z6 and it seems to me already a pretty solid camera, can anyone give me some clues on were those money go (apart from the brand)?

I've owned 4 Leica M's over the years. M8 (with IR Filter) amazing colours and I could focus more consistently then the AF on Fuji X cameras. M9 FF, even better colours, M240 terrible skin tones. but it had video, which was what my wife carried about me shotting our kids doing stuff. (so I didn't get, all that money and it can't shot video). And M3, still have it, it's such an amazing thing in that hand and fun to shot and nostalgic to shot with. (I bought this used in 1989). But now today Im kinda stoked by the EOS R5/6, that focus speed and the lens line up means I can get shots I could never of got before and can't get excited by this anymore. Though if the M11 has a Fuji Xpro3 hybrid VF and IBIS I'll be excited.

This $10,000 kit shines brighter than my future.

Gotta get the Panasonics in there on the silent shutter shoot-off. Love my G80's soft thud, coming from an X-T1 (satisfying but not quiet) and D600 (..I mean it's an SLR).

*DPReview* Love and respect

Chris is become one of "those" angry old man.

I'm ashamed to say that I never thought about a higher rez sensor being negated by a lack of ability to handhold it super still. Suddenly I'm far less interested in owning a 40+MP camera.

Thanks for the review.

So while this camera lacks the H and Q keys it makes up for it in the exquisite tactile feel of the F and Y keys where the travel and smoothness has been refined by no less than 69%. Decades of research have culminated in space age technologies like the new bottom und TTL bung also known as the Buttplug, a second coming for the history and knuckle skin filled film loading doors of our heritage cameras. In homage to our heritage we have unveiled a bountiful ISO range of 374 to 452, more than enough to photograph newly polished dental chair rails in the morning light. Our new Givesnofux viewer attachment is a cable to nowhere and represents the zen state that Cartier Bresson achieved after a heavy cream brunch. While this camera has no actual price, we suggest reserving your place in line with a monthly contribution of one first born child and the blood of several sinners.

Excellent review

Sorry to be this person but plz wear a mask when in close proximity to others in doors.

Everytime there is a Lecia review.. The comment section turns really sour and hateful. The worst part is.. Most of the people whom comment are adults. lol..

Is the shadow booster built-in to the body or a software adjustment in post production? If built-in, is it variable adjusted. Thankyou for your insightful review. John

I really don’t think Chris likes photography anymore.

Waiting for the Made In Portugal version. 😂

the sample photo make me feel like i have myopia suddenly having perfect eyesight

Man, Chris is spicy this video.

Cool Review, but curious, does he actually like the camera at all ? (More flower shots please ….)

Sounded like a honest review.

I hope they’ll still release 24mp Ms. I think that’s the sweet spot for day to day photography which is still a huge part of the Leica user base.

You didn’t mention the autofocus performan... oh wait

Hi did the M10R Can Recording video. Tks

In Australia its $13500 wow. Not worth it.

Chris, can you please repeat the address i can send my leica bee photos? 🤣🤣🤣

Dope Jared impression

Lol that intro 😂

So you spent 8000$ on a Leica m and shoot in EVF. Brilliant.

It's like Chris lost a bet and begrudgingly had to do a Leica camera review. So much sass

I am surprised by the quality of Lumix S1H, that's incredible

I have a bee in flight and in focus photo from a Leica M. Challenge accepted.

I love how much he’s always disliked Leica. It’s like the concept of something that is built for second, third-hand or even lifetime usage is irrelevant and not worthy of mention. Technicals are the only comparisons.

Have an x pro 3...not sure if this is worth the price difference. Huge respect for leica build quality, but frankly the fuji is just about equal.....just not the "lable" or "status" ..... sort of an old story. But funds are not infinite for many of us. I wanted to switch but this camera is simply too expensive. That simple. If 2000 or 3000 dollars.....then it would be a fair fight...and Leica would win. But not by much.

The Leica M series are interesting beasts for sure. I keep lusting after one, even though when the M10 came out and I demo'd one from the NYC store during PhotoPlus in 2017 (finally being able to afford the body and three lenses). I made the decision to stick with my Pen-F's and small M Zuiko Premium primes for my walkabout kit because I am so spoiled by autofocus. The M10R continues to psychologically tug at my heart, which confuses my analytical brain. I think Hugh Brownstone said it best (summarizing & paraphrasing here) "I want one, but it makes no sense". Maybe it's time to sell a bunch of the old medium format film stuff and at least pick up a used first gen M10 and a used 50 just to scratch that itch... I knew I shouldn't have watched your video, Chris :-p (actually, thank you, it was well done!)

Is this another camera with the same price as a golden house with a lawn of diamonds that I have to water with champagne?

If you weren't discouraged from buying or dreaming of a Leica M10R after watching this video then Chris failed.

Whenever someone says "Leica" i just think of a posh french dude with a beret, smoking and taking black and white street photos.

Not for me, the ergonomics is clearly targeted for lawyers and doctors

High resolution range finder camera is just so contradictory schizophrenic practically. You will need EVF to precisely focus to get the benefits of the resolution, especially wide open. But why should one buy a range in that case then?

I'm still curious to this days on why Leica shooters always hunt for unaware persons on street.

You guy are really the best....

I became a fan at 3:00. I’m off to see if that domain is spoken for.

It would be great if you could add this camera and the q2 to your Studio Shot Comparison !

i used to remember how stoked i am with dslrs and stuff then i realized how much phone camera technology has improved such a shame seeing something that was commonplace a couple of years ago being an old art that only hipsters are seen doing

There will be probably very few people watching your video nowadays, being that the M10-R is now old news as even the M11 is; however I had to come here to see what I'll be getting by an upgrade from M10 (purchased used in 2019 but received until late 2021 thanks to some Ch***se that released a bioweapon) to a now _"accessible"_ for me "pre-owned" M10-R. As things stand in lookout I'll be chucking out ~$800 on the upgrade. So far, having neither received my _"excellent-plus"_ M10-R with all boxes and accessories plus an extra batttery, nor having yet put on the block my 2018-ish M10 is likewise condition, I feel -after watching your clip- that the upgrade price is reasonable. Certainly the humongous 40mp files that will come out of it will be superfluous 99% of the time, and only serve as storage hogs; but maybe -just maybe- that 1% of the files will allow me to reframe, or even crop and resize, and get a usable 11x17 out of 50% of the file. Kudos to you for your frank opinions! I was pretty much born into Leica with my father's IIIf which he reluctantly loaned to me for a trip to Europe when I finished college. I returned it unscathed six weeks later swearing I would get me a modern camera, which I did by buying a Spotmatic with a 50mm/1.4 Super-Takumar that soon expanded into a full system. However, at my father's demise in '96 his IIIf was given to me by my mother (nobody else knew what to do with it nor wanted to) and I got hooked on the concept. In 2001 I got an M6 and from there it was a black downhill track to where I stand now. So far I don't print wet anymore, almost never shoot MF film, and the little 35mm film I shoot with my Leicas and Nikons (just for spleen, probably) get prompt process (RA4 & B&W) so they can be converted to pixels and printed digitally or shared in the net. It's good to see DPReview including hybrid workflows. Film, specially RA4 and B&W well processed and archivally stored doesn't suffer from the fragility of the digital media. With 50 years of darkroom experience, both B&W and color, I have a huge legacy of memories and beautiful images that will reach my grand-grandchildren. It's a pity that the much better (technically) digital images probably won't. Will be sure to comment on the M10-R here when it finally arrives. Thanks for the good work!

Did anyone noticed 8:31. It looks like a IR filter has been put on a Leica 35mm f2. Why did they do that?