Many photographers criticize Leica (it doesnt do or doesnt have this or that for the price they charge etc). I was one of them. Then while trying to change Leica, Leica ended up changing ME as a photographer. Where other brands accommodated my ignorance Leica made me realize how bad I was at photography. I have used pretty much every brand for the last 20 years shooting magazine covers etc. so im not new to this. And Leica made me realize I know nothing about photography. Thats my story. ;) thank you

Long time crop Fuji user - just picked up my first real rangefinder a Leica M9. It's so fun to shoot, no live view is a huge learning curve for me, I've always had a preview of what I was going to get before the shot. M9 sensor has a pretty cool look to it.

I can't sell my older cameras to purchase a new unit, I fall in love with each camera.

Thanks for this video. I feel exactly the same way about the same situation. Love my black M11’s lightweight body and the larger battery but I too decided to hold onto my M10r as a backup and second camera body; the M10r has been 100% reliable, makes wonderful images, it’s rangefinder is spot on, and it’s been my companion for a number of years. Battery life with my M10r can be its weakest point but after buying/selling a few M10* cameras over the years, I’ve ended up with 8 batteries for my R so I’m should be good for now. Thanks again!

Stick to one camera, the one you feel most connected to.

Thanks for the video. I would love the M11P but if I can find the 10R for a good deal I'll spring for that.

I love that-I understand completely!

I did not sell my SL2 when I purchased the SL3. I am keeping my M10M even though I am buying the M11M. This way I always have backup.

Smart move! I bought a new M4 brand back in 1974 and I still use it today. Last year, I bought an M11 and I'm using it more. I love both cameras though..

Excellent video.

The shutter sound is what I am gonna miss once Leica goes with global shutter sensor in a M12 or M12P. Gonna be a boom for on camera flash though. Till then I keep on shooting M10 with available light and do local exposure adjustments in post.

That’s what i told my wife and she never knew i m keeping both in the end, seamlessly

I feel the same way about my M8, despite having an M10 (and an SL2) I can't bring myself to get rid of what is technically a much lesser camera. But that M8 sensor does have some magic and it was my first M

7:08 Agree 100%

Great discussion 👍 I like your review

Base plate of m 10 series is so good. Bring it back! So durable and worry free for ports

Could you share about the process to send your M10R to get CLA’d? Was that thru Leica USA (NJ)? How much did it cost? What was the turn around time? Purchased mine second hand from a Leica store at excellent condition and registered it for the 12 month warranty. I’ve been loving it so far and it does feel like an instant classic! A few weeks ago, realised there is a small bit of dust only noticeable at f11/f16, so I am interested in sending it prior to the 12 month expiry window. Superb video btw!

well if i was you ill just keep M10-R and let go M11 because... 1) M11 still keep freezing with app connection 2) M11 discard traditional leica metering and i think because of that M11 image looks like just from a random modern mirrorless cameras 3) my M10-R is BP lol

Same can be said for the Fuji x100V and x100vi. I thought I would be able to sell the sixth after I got the five, however, the five generates value in its lower megapixels, less complexity(no IBS moving parts), and it’s robustness. The six represents new technology, new possibilities with the IBS, more cropping options with the higher megapixels, some quality of life changes, and it’s new film simulations. I’m also still sporting a Fuji XT three from 2018 and a canon EOSM5 for supportability and unique 11 to 22 mm wide angle lens. I think the problem with today’s cameras is a rapid turnover, as well as the digital rot that plagues any digital camera, regardless of brand. This is why I think the only true viable heirloom Leica is a film like a camera. You will not be chasing after compatible, batteries, sensor issues or electronic obsolescence for example, the Leica FOTOS app. This is the problem that will plague any digital camera. However, it’s interesting to see today’s youth embracing the Digital when 20 years ago. Great nonetheless

What phone do you use, iPhone or Android, which one if android, is there some features and things you can only do on one platform for you as a photographer and just as a person?

Well said, I'm looking to purchase my first Leica after wanting one since the 1980s. I have a deposit on a Q3 but the M still calls me and I almost bought an m10r but decided to hold off to give more thought to the m11 line. I currently shoot with an a7rv and I love the flexibility of that 60mp sensor so I'm leaning towards the m11, but that price just makes me pause. Although I realize that I'd most likely keep it much longer then I would cameras of the past, and as a street photographer who travels all around the world, the Leica just makes sense to me.

Great video! Any problems with M11 freezing ? And easy scratch on the black color?

Thanks for the video. M10R user here and I was offered a M11P with display set at reasonable discount. Difficult decision as I was thinking to sell my M10R after I get the P but I am lost again after watched your video.. ha.. I could ended up have two M camera 🤣

That’s why Leica M is considered a classic while SL and Q are not. However, I am keeping my TL2 because it is such a beautiful and unique camera.

Thanks for the sharing! I found that some of the people said the M11 AWB is not accuracy and M10R color is better than M11, is it? Thanks!

You should sell both and buy a Nikon 1 V3. Much better camera.

Did your wife agree with your justification to retain the old one? Personally, I would put the same strap on each and black masking over the M10r's red dot so that she would think it was the same camera.

What you could be saying is that your Leica dealer won't give you - for your M10R - what you think the camera is worth. Why GIVE him your M10-R for an expensive M11 which isn't that much better? I've been through that process.