I was lmao for the first few seconds. I just did exactly that. I bought m11-p justifying i was going to sell my m10. Immediately after i purchased, you know the rest.
@KariKumpulainen5 күн бұрын
I use the same focal lengths, but with different lenses. I changed summicron V5 to summilux ASPH because I’m also 50mm guy and use it nearly always so decided to spent a little more for that one extra stop of light. And I never liked the bokeh summicron made. For 28mm, I also have elmarit. Actually 2, the pre-ASPH v4 and my latest purchase, Elmarit-M ASPH. They both have unique place in my heart but for different reasons. For 90mm, I first started with Tele-Elmarit-M (thin), which I never liked. Sure it was small and light for travel, but for some reason it never felt right. I changed it to newer Elmarit-M which is totally different beast in IQ. That I would only change for APO Summicron.
@user-yp6in8nl9z7 күн бұрын
I think the Leica q3 is a much better value.
@devroombagchus746011 күн бұрын
It was in Havana on the second day that my Leica gave up. Not the place to find a Leica Shop. Not that it would have mattered. If I sent one of my Leicas for repair, it was always a lottery. The camera could be repaired for free or at a reasonable price, the camera could be repaired at an enormous cost, the camera could not be repaired. Whatever the outcome, it took a very long time. No more Leicas with electronics in them for me. I just have my mechanical MP. A beauty. And I don’t have to rely on a functioning light meter. I felt cheated that I paid so much money for junk electronics.
@forgottenamericana12 күн бұрын
Its nice to have two bodies..... No lens changes....
@jimmason850220 күн бұрын
Sell the Leica set up and buy a Fuji X100V and with the extra cash you can feed a Cuban family of 8 for at least two years...with no appreciable loss of image quality.
@devroombagchus746021 күн бұрын
I can’t show you any images of Havana, because the electronics of my Leica gave up the second day.
@adventure_photo22 күн бұрын
I enjoyed hearing your insights!
@wayneiam641925 күн бұрын
Lots of comments about the pricing. Although I love my Leica setup for the experience the Fujifilm x100V or X100VI are great choices on a lower budget. If you have a bit more, the Leica Q3 is great.
@barthonhoff554726 күн бұрын
A Leica M10-p owner: 28mm , 50mm V4 and 90mm Pre-Asph Summicrons as travel around kit. Or when I want really small I take the Leica CL with the 16mm, 30mm and 56mm Sigma’s with me.
@nickdual26 күн бұрын
I subscribed, you too
@stephenelliott707128 күн бұрын
Such a compact light travel photography setup. I think that's very important because the vacation/holiday and enjoying yourself is the priority, but it's also nice to capture some great images too! Every camera manufacturer has similar so just pick something similar...For me it's a Fujifilm X-Pro 3 with a 16 f2.8, 23 f2 and 50 f2 - in FF terms a 24mm, 35mm and 75mm.
@HJ-nh1wl29 күн бұрын
Excellent video and narrative! Totally agree with ‘One Camera, One Lens’ philosophy to photography! Identical to my thinking for the past 4 decades. I have approached my photography from composition value and concentrate on ‘understanding and seeing’ what a fixed-focal length lens (21, 28, 135mm etc.) can deliver in imaging terms. However, trying to convince the average photographer on the street or in a camera club, etc. …. IT’S IMPOSSIBLE!
@bernardkealey64498 күн бұрын
No one wants to be “convinced” of something that removes the “this shot would have worked better if I had <x>” reasons / excuses. Restricting choice means mastering and deeper thinking about capability of gear, but more painfully - personal capability… (For me, I’m looking at going fewer lenses but more film backs)
@frits146329 күн бұрын
An 11-P + lens is out of reach for me at this point. It's the best camera I could which for. In the meantime I have a Q3 which I love. other than the focal length it check's all the boxes in this video. I'm used to the 28mm and sometimes I which a 24mm though. My ideal setup would be an 11P with a 24mm, 35/40 and a 90mm.
@alexbenstead5922Ай бұрын
I’m having this very ‘crisis’ right now. I just can’t quite trade the 10r, but can’t afford to keep 2 Ms.
@wolfgangsimon1056Ай бұрын
My three lens set-up: Dual-Hexanon 21/35mm, Summilux 1.4/50mm and Tele-Elmarit-M 2.8/90mm
@tonyhayes9827Ай бұрын
You need a back up camera anyway N'est pas? I have sold cameras and lenses in the past to upgrade but despite having a Nikon ZF now I've kept my D850. Just can't part with it. Great vid.
@RS-AmsterdamАй бұрын
Solid story 🎉 Thanks for sharing😊
@cornellouisАй бұрын
Yay that's the exact setup I just bought in Japan!
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
I've never been to Japan, my goal is to visit Tokyo and Kyoto sometime in the next few years.
@cornellouis29 күн бұрын
@@gregspov Tokyo is fantastic and huge and the exchange rate is awesome right now. My Leica gear was ~20% cheaper than in the U.S. I'm hoping to return in the next year or two.
@PatrickColpronАй бұрын
The M perspective control is great, not fond of the M11, I prefer the M10. The crop thing to get a 50 mil equivalent with a 35 is absolutely wrong, those focal length render completely differently
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
They do. My 50mm Summilux gives a completely different look. But when I want to travel light I don't mind the tradeoff.
@kentsoderstrom8378Ай бұрын
Sounds a lot like a modern Fujifilm X100VI 😂
@scholzineuropaАй бұрын
Thank you for your video! Could you tell which shutter is louder? The M10-R or the M11-P? Is it a big difference? For my work shutter sound is important.
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
The sound level is the same, it's just a different sound. But the advantage with the M11 series is that you can set it to only use the electronic shutter and be completely silent. This would work fine for most scenes as long as rolling shutter would not be an issue, for example if you were taking a picture of a golfer swinging a club then you need the mechanical shutter. But taking photos of a classical musician performing the electronic shutter would work great and be silent.
@forgiveness_deniedАй бұрын
sorry, I don't have extra $15k 🤩
@k4kafkaАй бұрын
So where’s that external battery link…? I see no “notes” in the description…
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
amzn.to/3Wlog2T
@emperorofratsАй бұрын
but nobody will use a 20K-Setup for a holiday in Havana.....
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
I did :) but then again I'm not normal. TBH if I even went back there I'd take only my trusty old Ricoh GRIII.
@wayneiam641925 күн бұрын
I would
@Vladimir-hd5nnАй бұрын
Great video and you made good points. Ultimately, I’ve settled on a different approach with an M11 paired with a 28mm Summicron v2 and 50mm Summilux ASPH. Yes, it does mean changing lenses, but I like the option of having two FOVs when travelling - with a wide angle and normal lens make for a dynamic combo. However, if you just want one lens then I think a 35mm Summilux is the way to go and 60mp gives you immense cropping power as you mentioned. I felt like I wanted a change after using 35mm as my go to for 10 years on Fujifilm X100 cameras and I’m pleased with this setup. But you can’t go wrong either way.
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
Yes, completely agree. I often switched between my 50 summicron and 28 elmarit when I was on vacation in Greece. The key to avoid doing too much lens switching is to decide ahead of time what is most appropriate, For example, the day we walked around the center of crowded Athens I kept the 28mm on the camera, versus walking along a ridge trail in Santorini with ocean views where 50mm was a better choice.
@gdonson4440Ай бұрын
With all due respect, you are going for the Elon, Jeff, Bill and Warren subscribers, good luck with that. The masses are looking for cheaper budget friendly cameras that will not deprive their families of a place to live
@jwanger142Ай бұрын
Haha yeah his setup here is close to $20,000 USD. Still has a good message about focal length anxiety that can be applied across platforms. One small body like an X-Pro2 with a 23 or 35mm 1.4 could be a perfect option around 1,200 dollars tho. Fake rangefinder style
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
You are right, Leica is not for everyone. I'm fortunate that at this point in my life I can play with Leica gear. But 30 years ago I was using a cheap Nikon 35mm film point and shoot, and it took great pictures, then for the past 20 years I've been using Canon digital. For a long time my primary camera was a Canon 5D Mark I that I bought used for $600, and again, it took great photos. Photography is all about the process and the experience. Expensive gear can enhance the experience, but is definitely not a substitute for taking good pictures.
@The_Hero_Is_Back2 күн бұрын
I was out yesterday with a Nikon D2x (2005) and a 24mm f/2.8D (35mm lens equivalent on an APS-C camera). Much of what Greg says about one lens applies to any camera with a 35mm equivalent lens. Not worrying about which lens to use and being able to shoot at f/2.8 was enjoyable. And the D2x is a heavy old thing, so having a small light lens on it was a help. Very little stealthy about a D2x though. Thanks for some of the ideas here.
@David-my3uuАй бұрын
Thanks! Absolutely a great combination but until Leica adds image stabilization, it's not my "ideal". A stabilizing feature would certainly expand the capability for those the low light and close in shots you mentioned without taking away from the old-school mechanical operation (like autofocus would). Is there something about the camera's styling or internals that argues against it?
@gregspovАй бұрын
I agree. If Ricoh put stabilization in the tiny GRIII years ago I don’t see why not in the much larger M body.
@toothzombieАй бұрын
I have the Q2...can't imagine getting any other camera.
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I've been tempted, basically every time I walk into a Leica store.
@EricAdeleyeАй бұрын
Excellent video.
@BeareTubeАй бұрын
Enjoyed this video. Thanks Greg.
@zemmikАй бұрын
yes you are right, but you have 8k? 12k? combination in your hand??
@jwanger142Ай бұрын
It’s true the buy in price to Leica is insane, only saving grace is that the value holds historically. So I guess I can do mental gymnastics when I bought my QP that if I ever need the cash back I can mooooost likely recover that 3k. That being said digital Leica bodies probably won’t last as long as the film era bodies. Still the M11P with that Lux - I would have extreme anxiety walking around ANYWHERE unless it was fully insured.
@gregspov29 күн бұрын
Yep, buy-in is insane. But I am considering finally selling my M10-R to fund some new lenses and right now the used M10-Rs are selling for more than what I paid for mine two years ago.
@StevenScholtenАй бұрын
Yeah I agree. Same background. Also own the R5. I use a Q3 though. Manual focus is not for me
@RikMaxSpeedАй бұрын
Can we see your photos of Cuba? 😊
@RikMaxSpeedАй бұрын
Completely agree with you said, but I can do all of that (and more) for way less money with a Sony A7CR and Voigtländer lenses.
@gregspovАй бұрын
Yes, you can. People often confuse good photography with good/expensive equipment. I am fortunate to be able to afford a Leica system, but I can take just as good photos with my Canon kit. For me it is about the process and other factors. But at the end of the day it is a personal choice. There are plenty of artists who create amazing work with a Holga.
@peterfritzphotoАй бұрын
Very interesting video, Greg. Sadly, Australian prices are around triple what you’re paying in the US.
@gregspovАй бұрын
Ouch! Yeah, sometimes in the United States we take for granted how affordable things are compared to the rest of the world, especially people who live in states with no or very low sales tax compared to the high VAT in Europe.
@peterfritzphotoАй бұрын
Loved this, Greg. Have subscribed, and will be looking at more videos from your catalog.
@GastonShuttersАй бұрын
Great breakdown man. Agreed that’s a setup I rollout with or the Voigtlander 35 f1.5 close focus 0.5m half the weight of the Lux and similar cars image
@gregspovАй бұрын
Thanks! I tried a Voigtlander 35mm when I bought my first Leica rangefinder. They really are great lenses at a great price. I decided to go with Leica glass (barely was able to afford it) but that is a strictly personal preference. At the end of the day either lens is capable of amazing photos.
@lonniegroves4670Ай бұрын
Are you running the 38” or the 47” artisan and artist strap?
@gregspovАй бұрын
48" I'm over six feet tall so it's the only option. Really like it though.
@stayuntilforeverАй бұрын
Skip the Leica setup and go cuba 10 more times😂 for the same price
@SourPlanetАй бұрын
Provided you're in a position to take the leap, once you ditch the variable length mentality there's no going back. Photography becomes so clear. You literally see the shot before taking it. And with a Leica, the OVF keeps your reality.. and the camera is always ready for any shot. The 35 is definitely my island lens, but I'm happy with just the M240, 35/2, and 90/4. Don't even need a bag, they're both back pocket sized 👌
@gregspovАй бұрын
100% well said!
@damienphotographeАй бұрын
Hello, Thanks for your experience. About the battery Pack, it does not charge the battery if you are using the camera, only when it's off, so if you're on an Event, you will still need another battery
@gregspovАй бұрын
Good point. But for commercial work I’ll be using my R5 anyway. The Leica, for me, is only for personal work.
@scotttucker9613Ай бұрын
Counterpoint: just about any modern camera can take shots that have the same impact as these examples. I'm not pimping any particular alternative, but you can buy a 35mm alternative such as an X100, ZF with CV APO, etc and have enough money left over for two international trips. I'm sure the Leica kit is nice, but it's not something exclusive that gets you wildly different results than any other kit.
@gregspovАй бұрын
I actually agree with you. My all time favorite photo I took with a used Canon TX that I bought on eBay for $45. However, there are a lot of other reasons why I like to shoot wit the Leica rangefinder. I tried the Fuji X100 but it just didn't work for me. When I bought my first Leica rangefinder it brought back joy to the process of photography that had been dulled by the auto-everything of modern cameras. At the end of the day these are all personal decisions. Similarly, a used Toyota Tundra pickup will do the same job as a $100K King Ranch, but some people like to drive nice trucks. Photography is a big tent and there is no "best" or "right" way to do things, we all have our own journeys.
@scotttucker9613Ай бұрын
@@gregspov Yep, totally agree, and funny how car analogies work their way into photography time after time. I'm not advocating in any particular direction because my own gear cabinet is a madman's collection. Sometimes it's just as important to leave the house and experience life than what gear you have.
@thinkpadx60Ай бұрын
It's a great kit and I enjoy using it as well.
@dhaugАй бұрын
Agree with all of your points here, except my 35 'Lux is the prior version. I remember a time when I'd to carry 3 or 4 lenses, two cameras and their unique battery chargers, all while wondering why my neck, back and shoulders would ache. Thankfully, that's no longer the case with my M11-P and two small lenses. I now have the freedom to travel lightly, be more creative and am no longer afflicted by range anxiety!
@gregspovАй бұрын
20 years ago I carried a ThinkTank photo backpack stuffed with pro DSLRs and zoom lenses over a mountain pass in the Andes. There is no way I could physically ever do that again. So I'm grateful for the smaller lighter kit.
@streetinvertphoto963Ай бұрын
Great video. No doubt your channel will grow in the future. I’m planning to go to Cuba as well with the 35mm FLE II and 50 Noct
@gregspovАй бұрын
Have a great trip to Cuba. After decades of communist rule and sanctions the poverty is astonishing, but the people we met were all super friendly. Best to stay in a group or with a knowledgeable guide. And make sure to do a lot of research before leaving, the modern conveniences we take for granted such as cell coverage and wi-fi, and even consistent electricity, are spotty at best. And you can't just run down to the convenience store to get toothpaste if you forget to bring some. We were on a humanitarian mission and brought a lot of daily essentials such as Tylenol, toothbrushes, etc to distribute to those in need.
@streetinvertphoto963Ай бұрын
@@gregspov thank you very much for the information. I’m still learning as much as possible before the trip. Will take notes and be mindful on this trip.
@gregspovАй бұрын
@@streetinvertphoto963 I added some more Cuba travel tips to the blog entry that I wrote to accompany this video. You can read it at www.gregspov.com/articles/cuba-with-one-leica-camera-and-lens
@stevendente3686Ай бұрын
Great video. The M11 35mm ASPH FLE II is also my primary system. It accounts for around 80% of my images. I just spent a Month in Europe and only took the M11, the 21mm SEM, and the 90mm APO. never felt I missed a shot because of limited lens selection.