I have been following Ethan for a while. Whatever he is doing is of so much help to aspiring leaders and people who want to grow their careers. It is always good to get perspective from someone who has been there done that.
@EthanEvansVP7 ай бұрын
Thank you, kind words! I'm glad my advice is helpful to you!
@user-rp6mc7sw9y7 ай бұрын
Thank you Lenny! This is exactly what was needed in the podcast space. Your choice of people is unique and you are able to deliver a vibrant energy through your podcasts. Thanks man! Kudos to you
@LennysPodcast7 ай бұрын
I really appreaciate that!
@talktosavjani7 ай бұрын
@LennysPodcast - You are raising the bar of each podcast higher and higher. Thanks for bringing leaders who are not just great at what they do, but have good frameworks, and recipes to help others. I hope, pray and wish this podcast doesn't stop and you continue to bring new leaders with new learnings and unique perspectives.
@hcubill16 күн бұрын
Wow what a podcast! Loved every second!
@yoongjason7 ай бұрын
Terrific advice on how to own your career mixed with fun Jeff Bezos / Amazon stories (lessons). A career growth masterclass.
@piyatiwari7 ай бұрын
Great video! I’ve been a fan of Ethan’s LinkedIn content for a while. (Also realized that he looks way younger on video, now need a podcast on his skincare routine too 😂). Great podcast!
@yoongjason7 ай бұрын
Due to popular demand, the next episode…skincare with Lenny and Ethan haha!
@EthanEvansVP7 ай бұрын
You can't see me blushing, thank you. I am honest though - I recognize appearance matters so I good lighting and a touch of skin makeup under the eyes, courtesy of my wife. So I guess you could say my skin routine is in part recognizing that I wanted to look nice to the camera and I'm not too proud to break out the foundation 🙂
@mhauzeur7 ай бұрын
Without knowing it I have been implementing the magic loop but something was missing, thanks to bringing this up because now I know the route to keep growing.
@EthanEvansVP7 ай бұрын
Fantastic. @mhauzeur I would love to know what you were missing?
@mhauzeur7 ай бұрын
Thanks for replying @@EthanEvansVP! Regarding the 5 steps, I think I have been implementing them for a while, but regarding the process of growth, when you start by asking how I can help you, then by identifying issues, then by identifying the issues and fixing them, etc. I am in the process of making the complete jump to just keep in the loop with my leader. I thought that keeping him in the loop was something wrong, but not, is part of the process and seniority. Now, I wonder, what comes next after keeping in the loop? Should I focus on Innovation and strategy? On the other hand, I am using your framework to apply to my team, so thanks for sharing.
@MarkSimithraaratchy7 ай бұрын
Stellar discussion. I’ve learned something useful each time I’ve listened to Ethan. It was helpful to hear more nuance on the Magic Loop. This is an especially great interview given Lenny’s interview skills and the research he always does. Would also recommend his discussion with Will Larson. Looking forward to the next time Ethan and Lenny sit down together.
@Purnang_Borah6 ай бұрын
Thanks to Lenny for the podcast. It's fascinating to hear from Ethan, whom I recently discovered on LinkedIn. I've been tuning into various podcasts, and Ethan's explanations are exceptional and worth listening to.
@rva5487 ай бұрын
Great podcast. Thank you Lenny and Ethan
@Techie-in-Cloud6 ай бұрын
Great show...Listening to this conversation with Ethan Evans made me come out of the effect of past. Thanks a ton.
@user-dc3ij7lo9m6 ай бұрын
Loved this podcast! Honestly, this was the very first podcast that I listened through. Although I have just recently started listening to all the episodes but this one was definitely my favorite. Maybe, because I resonate it to my own professional life somewhere. Thanks for doing all the good work. Great job!
@silverchairsg6 ай бұрын
This is the best and most useful career advice interview I've ever come across!
@mimkusss4e4 ай бұрын
Great conversation!!
@precious.goziemba6 ай бұрын
Thank you Lenny and Ethan. This was super valuable.
@jeffs84636 ай бұрын
Incredible episode! I've always enjoyed Ethan's point of view and advice, however I believe I was previously within the "loop" yet was released without cause shortly after returning from my wedding due to jeopardizing my bosses job security as my results moved me up the chain pretty quickly within 2 years. It's been incredibly difficult to get back in the groove as of late as the job industry where I am is limited, so do be cautious as I feel like I missed a few obvious comments and/or questionable actions that suggested I should've lessened my productivity as my KPI's were putting others to shame.
@RS-vu5um6 ай бұрын
Great Interview. Very informative. I like the flow.
@celestema25067 ай бұрын
What if the manager uses you to do the dirty work they're supposed to do but incompetent of doing? Like asking you to ask someone to do work or have a performance talk. And because you don't have the title, the recipients start to resent you.
@EthanEvansVP7 ай бұрын
Great question. I think in a case like this you do need to push back on the work, explaining that these are management tasks and inappropriate for you to do. While I think there are fewer "bad" managers than people think, they absolutely do exist, and if your manager is asking you to perform personnel tasks, then you need to go find a better manager.
@adama77527 ай бұрын
As always, it depends on the connections this manager has. First, smooth it over with the fellow employee. Inform the manager's boss of the work your are doing that should be your managers role. Obviously it places a relationship strain because of titles/roles. Because of politics, your manager may not be moved. You need to develop a backup plan. Always having an exit strategy, in any business situation. I understand it feels uncomfortable, however I'm sure your Manager's Boss needs 'ammo' like this to get things changed.
@celestema25066 ай бұрын
Thanks for the answers. It's good to know I'm not the only one who thinks changes need to be made in these situations.
@TheRealTommyR7 ай бұрын
Excellent information. I wish that I could buy Ethan coffee and pick his brain further.
@EthanEvansVP7 ай бұрын
I wish you could too. Sadly, I get requests for several coffee chats per day. The way I scale my time is to do live events for my (paid) Substack newsletter subscribers. It costs a bit more than a coffee, but it gives you more access, too.
@TheRealTommyR6 ай бұрын
@@EthanEvansVP Thank you for responding; I certainly did not expect you to. I quickly signed up for the free version of your sub-stack today, however, I will check it out in more detail and might subscribe.
@ReasonableHuman14 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@PeterOrlovacz7 ай бұрын
Is there another pre-requisite for this to work, (if the goal is a promotion) namely that the company has to be growing? You can do whatever, if there’s just not enough space in wherever you are trying to go, at your current company.
@EthanEvansVP7 ай бұрын
Hi Peter. Growth is absolutely helpful but is not the only way up. People leave. People are fired. In the current economy, the way I see leaders I coach growing is that their peers are laid off and they are given the pieces of teams that are left. They have hard jobs (picking up the pieces), but they get both more responsibility and somewhat more people in the changes. There is no doubt that the most fun thing is what I call "riding the elevator," where the company is growing and you ride up with that growth. But it is not the only way, and it is not one you can count on. I will say, if you find yourself at what I call "the post office," which is a place where no one ever leaves and there is very little movement, all based on tenure, then it is very hard. Your best option there is switch companies.
@PeterOrlovacz6 ай бұрын
Thank you Ethan! I just left such a post office a few months ago.
@SanRob03025 ай бұрын
Lenny - this episode was fantastic. I heard you were interviewing B2B product leaders, have you considered Evan Goldberg who was the founder of NetSuite? One of the first OG SaaS companies along with Salesforce. He is a super brilliant guy with a lot of deep perspectives and would love to see you interview him.
@LennysPodcast5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip, will look into him.
@TheJapfanboy6 ай бұрын
Subscribed. Absolutely amazing content.
@TheMissyyyyАй бұрын
Thanks Lenny, I was aspired and i am pretty sure the stories and aspiration and lessons are truly a life time lessons to be remembered. however i got held upwas to the point of such an important launch where it is surprise launch and secret launch which jeff bezos was loosing sleep over it and then a college student wrote codes? how odd is that kind of story. unless that college drop out kid of mark Zuch of genius of some sort.😶🌫
@MarkCicero7 ай бұрын
I dont think number of patents is a good measure of inventiveness as it is highly dependent on available capital. Surely, working at Amazon would allow you to file many patients.
@EthanEvansVP7 ай бұрын
Mark, I actually agree with you. The challenge is that there is no great agreed measurement of inventiveness. We have things like the SAT for math and writing, and the GPA for college performance, but I am unaware of an easy metric for invention. Thus, I used the best proxy that is available. What I can tell you is that I had more patents than most people at Amazon, often 10x more. There were also a few people with more than me. Those people had access to the same resources; a few of them did more, most did less, at least on this one dimension.
@Falcon88566 ай бұрын
When you develop an idea while working at a company, doesn't the employer gain the rights to it? How do you create and have ownership over 70 patents then?
@eugene_dudnyk7 ай бұрын
“Magic Loop” == “Favoritism”. Let’s give up on tabooing favoritism in our code of conduct, and call it “magic”. Let’s not hire competent grownups as managers who can express what they expect from employees, let’s make it employees’ competitive ass-leaking practice to figure out what their wordless manager needs. Hahahaha