Nice! Congratulations.

Me too

I have a collection of Thinkpads... X61, X200, X220, X230, X250, T420s & T450 ... best laptops ever... The X200 is now with my GF... The X220 & X230 needs some parts to be replaced, all the others are fully working... Watching this video on my T450 :-)

Nice collection!

@@rolyrodriguez7424 wow, great! I am only have a X60T, X61 and T450s

Thinkception.

You're not noticing any limitations from the dual core ULV CPU? I used a T460 in 2018-2019 and the dual core just didn't cut it for my tab-heavy browsing and streaming video, among other productivity tasks.

Just curious, how much RAM was in your configuration?

@@LaptopRetrospective 16GB

Depends on the version you get and even then don't expect amazing things.

That's a lot. I hope they find second homes.

@@LaptopRetrospective Sadly they’re all going to e-waste :(

Nooooo!

@@LaptopRetrospective Sadly I can’t save all of them :(

👍

Nice setup Marco! That is a lot of RAM. 😁

Do you recommend this laptop for programming? Thanks!

@@Blure Absolutely, even though you shouldn't expect amazing compiling speeds...

@@LaptopRetrospective Yes indeed. It's actually an overkill for linux. I barely use 2,6 GB, with GNOME 40 and firefox running (with youtube).

@@neffscape6353 thanks for the quick reply! My aim is to use it with Ubuntu. I mostly do web programming and c++/rust, so this looks like a great candidate.

What an awesome story. Thanks for sharing!

Ha! me too. ive been using it at my university to study compsci as well. picked it up for around 250 on amazon. been programming a lot on it. recently i installed elementary os on it and have been loving it. however my work just gave me a new thinkpad carbon x1 do ive been using that. ironically enough im still in love with my t450!!

Still a great machine!

Very nice! Hope you land one in good shape.

That's awesome! It should serve you well.

There is an awful lot to like, especially those dual batteries and twin drives. You don't see that often anymore... What Dell did they move you to?

Dude, your getting a Dell! lol...

Our IT dept is upgrading us to the T490 or x1.. But I really like the T450 swappable battery. So I just asked them to give me 4 spare 72Wh batteries and I'm good. If only my T450 had the 1080p IPS display, it would be perfect.

The swappable battery is nice if you need it. Energy efficiency of newer CPUs also plays a factor in choosing a setup. But then again, swap when you need to.

@@LaptopRetrospective they gave me a latitude 7480 to replace my perfectly fine t450. It has a trackpoint that I seriously doubt Dell did any QC testing on during hardware development. It's truly absymal. The only good thing about it is the 1440p screen, but it doesn't have the CPU, ram or GPU to really take advantage of it. Everything runs noticeably slower than my t450. Can't wait until it breaks.

Very nice! What year of MBP did it replace?

The early 2011 model. I went through three logic board replacements and got sick of trying to fix it.

That's the era I had, well shortly after with their Retina line. Glad to hear you've already made it your own with since tasteful upgrades.

Glad to be off service.

Glad to be of help!

can I ask you, which one you bought and why? I'm in the same decision because my mum needs a new one. thank you

@@johnalea2158 Sorry for the delayed answer, I suggest every thinkpad from x250/t450 and above (if the price is reasonable) as they are more modern.

@@AntonisBaritakis ok thank you

Not all ThinkPads are created equal, that's for sure. I think this should have a spot with the good ones.

The time has come!

@@LaptopRetrospective Also a quick question: Do the S series models have the 2242 m.2 slot? Or is this exclusive to the regular models.

Check the PSREF for the model to see the specs. That's the best way. They can be found with a quick Google search.

Depending on what you need it to do, it should be fine.

@@LaptopRetrospective according to the listing when I bought it, it had some trackpad issues (that probably explains the low price) im hoping a new trackpad will fix this.

Fingers crossed. Fairly easy part to replace if needed.

@@LaptopRetrospective It should be arriving next week so we'll see!

@@cjuice9039 been thinking in buying one as well for college purposes, how is it holding up? Is it adequate enough for tasks of a collegiate student? Thank youu

Awesome. Thanks for watching and I hope your machine gives you plenty of years of service.

@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks bro

Awesome, I'm glad it is working well for you.

Cool! What happened/replaced it?

@@LaptopRetrospective Nothing really, I just bought a Thinkpad X1 Tablet a few months ago and for my usecase this machine is doing everything as well as the T460p did, so I didn't really had any reason to keep it any longer. Though I do miss it now to be honest :D

Gotcha, thanks for the info!

That's awesome, congrats!

Thanks 😁

Nice, what do you plan on using it for?

programming and pentesting

Nice!

Yeah, they started with the regular ones in the previous gen. Industry liked thinner machines than socketted ones and to be fair, the CPU rarely fails and I suspect were not being upgraded often by their business customers, so it became a feature rarely used.

It's intel's fault. Lenovo made at least a few socketed Thinkpads each generation until Haswell, the last major Intel Core revision for which PGA CPUs have been made available. I have a T440p, the last one they ever made.

Glad I could help! I'd be really curious to hear your thoughts on the X250, that might be coming in a video near you.

@@LaptopRetrospective she got the i5-5300U, 8gb ram and 256GB SSD. It was bought from a store in Portugal, online because of the pandemic. 350€ (1 year warranty). It came without the trackpoint nipple and two of the bottom rubber pads are missing, the guys at the store said they'd mail us the trackpoint and see if they have rubber pads. These aren't expensive to get, but it's something that could happen. She's had the computer for 5 days, she's really really happy! She needs it for college and basic things. The things that really impressed me was how stable the performance is. The computer just runs really smooth, she absolutely loooves the keyboard (she loves the really shallow keyboards from Apple, butterfly and the iPad ones but she loves this keyboard a lot). It still has over 5 hours of battery life, but what really surprised me though was the webcam! I haven't tested the microphone, but the webcam, dear god, it's really good compared to basically every other laptop every made? I know some Surface's have a really good camera as well, but this one... It was something that I really wasn't even thinking about, it does make sense, being enterprise oriented, video conferencing is important! It's super light... I mean I could go on an on. The only "bad" things were the refurbisher's fault. I have a Legion Y530 and I want to steal her Thinkpad for my linux distro hopping and programming adventures. It's like... I understand now why Thinkpads are so highly desired by a lot of people. This comment is probably too big, but I also chose a 5th gen i5 because of the graphics, I want to play some games with her like Portal 2, or some other lighter game, ESO isn't very light, but it's still playable I would say, I think a lot of people underestimate the power of Intel graphics, it's not that good, but it's good enough for people to do light emulation, play some rocket league for example, league of legends, there's a loooot of games to play on these. Something that I would be super into is having her laptop and play my old games, Zeus + Poseidon, Homeworld, Starcraft Broodwar, Warcraft 3, I mean there's so many amazing games that will run on that little HD 5500, I think people underestimate the experiences it can give on the gaming side. And I think one of the main things as well, for people that think about a 5 year old laptop and think about it being stuck all the time etc, is that SSDs are super cheap now, before a thinkpad with an SSD would cost a pretty penny, even my Legion Y530 I had to get an SSD for (it was 630€ new though). I would say that even 4th gen, but 5th gen Intel with 8GB ram and 250GB of SSD at least (to not be so limited on space) is all most people really need. She has the worst screen, TN panel with the lower resolution, she's happy with it, and she has an iPad 7th gen which has a pretty decent display, but for what she needs she says it's fine. I think it is fine, but the IPS 1080p is a huge upgrade, but then games won't play well on native resolution. USB 3 is really important these days I think! If you have any questions about our unit feel free to ask, or if you want me to check something on it.

I was mainly curious to see how your experience is comparing with my own. ;-D Looks like we are equally impressed. I'll have to give the camera another look.

Yeah, in my experience those style of finger print scanners only capture a narrow sliver per swipe so you have to keep that in mind during the enrollment process. Your setup sounds like it's got lots of great features.

Awesome, what did you get for specs?

That's so much for your kind words! Glad you enjoyed it.

@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks to you I changed my mind and bought a T450 (heh) Just found one on ebay in fair condition for $143.08 total USD. Wanted some upgrade options for sure. Intel Core i5-5300U 8GB RAM 320GB HDD Windows 10 You think this was a good deal for the price? I'm gonna swap out the HDD for an SSD for sure, but I don't think I'll need many upgrades after that. However I really like how these laptops offer upgrade options certainly 1 tier above the rest.

Sounds like a good buy, an SSD for sure and be ready to buy a new battery, internal, external or both depending on health.

@@LaptopRetrospective Oh ya man, gonna give her some much needed upgrades. Thanks again for the info dude, really helps a lot!

Anytime 😁

Nice, let me know how your project goes.

Very cool indeed!

What did the s model bring to the table? I cannot remember the differences.

@@LaptopRetrospective Super Slim! slightly smaller all around. 337.82 mm vs 330 mm (S). 233.68 vs 226 (S) and 20.3 vs 22.8 (S) - slightly thicker due to the touchscreen.

Gotcha. Anything soldered on that wasn't in this version?

@@LaptopRetrospective I think the T450s had 4GB of ram soldered on and one dimm slot.

They are great machines from this generation.

Yep, awesome machines.

Does it have Backlight keyboard?

If I remember right it was optional.

@@LaptopRetrospective thank u very much

No problem.

Nice! Glad to hear it's working for your needs.

Fair point.

If you want light, go X1 Carbon.

Fantastic find and great price. Well done.

@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks! It's such a solid machine!

Hey I’m also in the UK. Does this guy still sell them?

@@pl1917 Yeah mate, but he only sells local not online sorry

Yes, a p variant is out there, the one hiding under the battery is only there if the SmartCard reader is absent correct?

@@LaptopRetrospective I worke with the T450's at a job and they had the 1600x900 displays. They all had the m.2 under the battery and I think they had a smart card reader too, but I could be mistaken.

I could also be mistaken but what I've read that second m.2 bay was only present if the SC wasn't. The T450 has gone away or I'd check.

Please, what can the SmartCard reader be used for?

The Smart Card reader is used for reading Smart Cards which is a form of physical security that used to be popular with some businesses.

I'd love to, but I am limited on what I can get my hands on. I'll keep my eyes out for one if they price is right.

That's awesome!

5-6 hrs battery, that's insane.. Mine only lasted for 2-3 hours

Mine also last 2-3hrs lol

Battery life will depend on the health of the battery and how hard the laptop is being run. It can very an exceptional amount.

Very nice!

@@LaptopRetrospective I bought it off a seller on e-bay (which i know was risky and had my doubts before hand) but apart from a couple of light marks on the casing the inside looked good as new with an upgraded hard drive/RAM/graphics not bad for £350

ThinkPads are easier to buy online because they are tough. I would feel quite differently about other units.

@@LaptopRetrospective Exactly, they are built to last unlike most alternatives, easy to upgrade and look good too which is a bonus

Wholeheartedly agree.

You're welcome! Good luck!

@@LaptopRetrospective Do you've any suggestion for upgrade component? Like add an M2 2242 SSD or change the 2.5 HDD to 2.5 SSD. And does it have any compabilities to upgrade the onboard graphic card?

No onboard graphics upgrades, you get what you get. Swap out the HDD for an SSD, that will be huge and then 16GB of RAM would be some suggestions. That and make sure both batteries are healthy.

@@LaptopRetrospective I see... what do you prefer T440p or T450? the T440p have 2nd GPU and can upgrade CPU, but only in 4th gen intel CPU.

I think I'd still go for the T450. Dual batteries is really nice.

These T450's were on their way out the door. Gone hours after I filmed them. There are some upgrades a person can do, but I'm not sure they have the same moddable background as the older models. That's one of the reason the older units are still so desirable.

You can add USB PD charging capability, there is even ready made ones available.

Yep, totally understand how crazy different they look once you lift the hood. Regarding some of your comments, especially around Linux, stay tuned.

If you can't wait, make a live USB of stone distros like Mint, elementary or Fedora. All work great.

@@LaptopRetrospective I can wait! I already have lots of projects to whittle away on, including scanning all my photos, etc. All those things I never got around to doing and now there's a pandemic, so now I have no excuse not to tackle them :-)

I'd grab a copy of Rufus (rufus.ie/) and a few ISOs for a USB key and try some live versions. A lot of it will come down to how you want your user interface to look at and feel. I've featured elementary OS as its own video on the channel and my X220 runs Mint (great place to start because it is very similar to Windows in look and daily function) and now Lenovo has announced a partnership with Fedora. But the bottom line is, ThinkPads and Linux get along famously. Feel free to reach out to me if you have questions or want to chat. Email and Twitter are open.

@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks, that's very kind of you! I will grab Rufus, and check out your elementary OS video. I mostly use my laptop to browse, send email, use LibreOffice, and watch Netflix, so there's really no reason for me to stick with Windows and it seems to me there are real performance and privacy improvements to be had by switching to Linux-based OS. My only real concern was making sure drivers existed for the X240, so the hardware would work properly.

Lots to like!

Can you play game on it? T450S. Like GTA V? Or call of duty?

@@naiemracer5075 If you get one with the GeForce 940M I'd say it will do okay, but the integrated chip might not be up to the task.

Good job getting a great deal. 👍

@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks I since learned about the IPS display option after watching your video. Mine is just the TFT. But I guess it's a great price for what it is. I'm sure it will serve my electronics needs well enough.

Yeah at that price, I'd still be quite pleased.

@@jenniferw8963 hi can I use it for programming languages I want to get it for school

@@jenniferw8963 thanks It's more like I'm learning on my own

There was also a used T460 for about ~$260, I know it has a better screen and newer internals but couldn't afford it. So I gone with the T450 just to have something to use at uni that isn't too bad in battery life unlike the significantly cheaper 2nd and 3rd gen ThinkPads that go for about half what I got the T450 for but are surely more worn out and have less efficient processors. Going dual SSD with the SATA + M.2 2242 SATA is interesting, but the only one from a reputable brand costs like ~$72 USD (Transcend MTS420S 480gb) and everything else is generic Chinese crap SSDs that I wouldn't trust.

Interesting! Thanks for sharing your journey with your purchase.

@@LaptopRetrospective Haha thank you for the response. The journey continues for me as I discovered the reason for the right USB problem (sadly just after the 1 week return window closed), that the D- pin was broken so I won't be able to use for anything but powering something. Touchpad sticker still feels weird but I won't be replacing it just yet and I found directly underneath it is the conductive/capacitive layer of the touchpad. The there's Linux power management not being as power efficient as how Windows handles it, which I find odd. I may try the bios modding first before doing any more upgrades like internal battery and Soft Rim TrackPoint cap sinve there would be no point if I screw up there and threw more money at a thing that could be dead by the end of the process. Though the bios chip could be replaced if I can find one and find someone with a hot air rework station to replace it. I'll have to find some help on figuring out which version of the CH341a flasher would work fine as I've read people frying their bios chip because their flasher sent 5v instead of 3.3v or 1.8v (still not sure which of those two I need). And some help on the how to clip onto the bios chip (orientation and setting up the flasher), the bios dumping process, bios modding process and the guide (in a forum people are referring to) that doesn't exist anymore due to the website shutting down, and more related things to do that. I'll be looking into reaching out to the r/Thinkpad subreddit as I've read some people there trying it and having success, though I've also seen failure from accidentally knocking off nearby components on the board while clipping the bios chip. I do hope to be able to do it within the next month or so with hopefully success as I learned over the past few days of testing the T450 is that I would probably need to go use Windows if I would use it as a portable daily driver because of software necessary. At this point I'm just rambling on my thoughts LOL.

Appreciate you sharing your ramblings. 😁

@@LaptopRetrospective I am happy to report in removing the screen whitelist my ThinkPad T450. I gone ahead and got a CH341a flasher for about $5 USD and done it the other night and was successful. Brightness on Windows works now. I also tried to get a pack of SoftRim TrackPoint caps but had a problem where they're too tall and pop off when moving diagonally and press on the screen more than the Soft Dome my T450 came with so I'm in the process of returning them. I upgraded the SSD to a 512GB one while I was inside to flash the bios and installed Windows 10 LTSC 2021 on it. Next thing for my T450 would probably be getting an internal battery to boost the battery life. Something quite unfortunate is the ethernet port is a bit loose and looses connection when nudged even a little bit, particularly when done vertically. I found some T450 owners also have this issue and I may get a USB 3 to ethernet adapter dongle if I really need to use ethernet, but I tend to use wifi on portable devices so it ain't too bad. Though I may also find a solution where I'll just add spacers so the ethernet jack doesn't move.

Thanks for the additional information.

how about t450s?

That will be quite an upgrade.

Nice!

Yeah there is something to be said for a cool running laptop.

I put an ssd in my t440 and always found it to be a bit slow. Not sure why.

Could be a variety of factors. Not all SSDs are created equal.

@@bdm1019 Yeah something is not right. SSD works well.

Thanks for the offer but these machines moved on to their next home already. 😁

@@LaptopRetrospective ok, the docks are universal for the t440 line through the t460 so if you get one of those and want to borrow a dock let me know

@@Gartral Noted, thanks!

Can i play Fortnite and gta online on Lenovo t450?

@@JackFrezza I couldn't comment one way or the other on fortnite, GTA however... well.. yes.. it works, but the experience isn't great. 20-30 fps with the lowest settings and 720p.

Nice.

Subgenius.

Very nice!

It would do alright. Remember that video editing demands are tied to the resolution, frames and complexity of the project. The T450 is a nice machine that isn't too crazy on the budget.

That would be a nice gift.

👍

Increased risk of component damage if the battery discharges into the components. etc.

It's possible to an extent but not for the common individual. The Nvidia GPU because of the PCI Express lane used by the dock connector would be especially fun. Would be easier to swap the boards and bottom case.

Yeah, it's a strange situation as sockets usually only let you upgrade within the same generation, maybe sometimes two with the older CPUs but it definitely went out of style.

@@LaptopRetrospective I would love to upgrade my i5 with an i7 but don't know I should solder or try and get a new motherboard with it already on altogether. Then again I'm not really suffering any perfomance issues. Have you ever seen a new CPU successfully soldered onto a T450?

You'd be safer swapping motherboards. Theoretically it could happen but I haven't heard of anyone trying it.

@@LaptopRetrospective Ok thanks!!

You're welcome 🙂

It was sad to see the socketted CPU go, but I feel more people liked the idea of it than actually used it.

Yes, it is an option. They also shipped with a keyboard that isn't backlit. The pictogram present on the spacebar indicates which is which.

The GPU will vary depending on your specific one. If you have a serial number you can look it up.

Great little collection of Education models. The X140e I looked at was impressive for the price point and was crazy durable.

@@LaptopRetrospective The X140e, and X131e are indeed both eduseries models, and fairly durable, and the X140e even had a few color options for the lids like mine which is almost a Crimson red, but the X120e, and despite the e on the end the X120e was marketed as a lightweight business class notebook since it came with the option to have the now defunked WiMAX mobile connection standard, and no nothing else will work in that slot, as the BIOS has it black listed for just that, and same with the 2.4Ghz WiFi card, where only a select 1/2 a dozen or so white listed cards will work(all 2.4Ghz from my research), as I learned after trying to update it to 5Ghz with no luck, and it's not near as durable as the other 2, and runs much hotter overall, but still good for a Chromium OS machine if you can snag it for under $60 USD with a working battery like I did.

@@CommodoreFan64 I'm sure you've heard of this, but just in case you haven't, there are modded BIOS' for the X120e to allow a Centrino card. www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/npweb/that_feel_when_you_flash_your_x120e_with_a/

@@LaptopRetrospectiveI don't do much on Reddit, so I've not seen that, but now I'll have to look into that one, thanks much.

I don't frequent there much myself but Google led me to there.

I'm not familiar what external GPU options you have, that would be my first problem to solve.

Laptop Retrospective I haven’t received the laptop yet, and don’t have experience with external GPU. Just curious really. I would like to buy one, but I don’t know if it would be good enough to live stream or not. I want to connect the laptop to an external monitor, webcam, headphones keyboard and mouse

These machines really aren't designed with gaming in mind so you might want to temper your expectations. Streaming depends heavily on your internet connection as I'm sure you know.

Laptop Retrospective just a quick update I’ve been using the t450p to live stream on twitch and it runs very well! Both pc games and using a capture card the system is amazing! There is even a sale right now on the ultra dock on amazon right now! I bought one for less than $30 (usually $200+) it arrived and works great! It even had original Lenovo packing! I’ll leave a link in case you’re interested: www.amazon.com/Lenovo-USA-ThinkPad-40A20090US-Thinkpads/dp/B00E0E2DIE

Great news. Glad to hear it's working out so well. Nice buy on the dock.

Haven't done my homework on the S variant yet... Mike Dancy I think has.

S it's a bit smaller, lacks a few features and configurations

Fingers crossed you find a deal.

32 GB should be possible.

ThinkPads love Linux. I've tried all sorts of distros with no issues. Older ThinkPads have also been used in Hackintosh builds.

@@LaptopRetrospective Awesome feels great reading your reply. Appreciate your prompt response :)

You're most welcome. Let me know how it goes and what distro you choose.

The sunk cost thing is because spending on anything on my T450 feels wrong as I could spend that money elsewhere or even save up for a more powerful laptop since the i5 5300U is quite inadquate for me since the processing demand of what I do on my computer has increased. And there's the laptop being of use in my time in uni being about at less than a year remaining. The current battery being non rechargable due to the bios is still not great though and feels like using a computer that's hooked up to a UPS that runs on disposable batteries. A bit unfortunate since I get 6hrs on it on a charge when it was working correctly.

It's pretty rare to have batteries, even third party not work due to a whitelist. Buying from a reputable seller is super important.

If I remember right, it is built into the display near the web camera.

@@LaptopRetrospective Thank you so much for your swift reply. There are two ultra-tiny holes on either side of the webcam but it does not seem to be it. What do you think?

One of those should be it. support.lenovo.com/at/en/solutions/ht504454 You can check the hardware maintenance manual to be certain.

@@LaptopRetrospective Thank you for pointing me in the right direction and you take care.

You're welcome!

Yes, that chassis redesign started with the T431 and 440.

Yep, it should be able to handle PowerPoint no problem.

I haven't had the chance to play with one of those yet. Some light Google work should give you some leads.

If you want details then I suggest you watch the videos I have on the T450 here and T470. The bottom line is you need to know your most demanding system requirements and ensure whatever machine you choose meets them.

If it is in good physical shape, sounds good. Be prepared to replace the batteries depending on wear and how much life you need it to have. If it isn't running an SSD, that's also a must in my books.

Sounds like a plan, salvage what you can.

@@LaptopRetrospective The 450s is so nice it. But I had to replace the fan, it was making a terrible noise. Im using linux and I'm not completely sure the fan problem was mechanical, any experience with linux on these? could it have been the firmware? I love your channel dude.

T470 gets my vote but if you can find a T480 that would be the better jump.

@@LaptopRetrospective wow! I didn't expect you could help your viewer that fast! Thanks! You earned a sub.

@@LaptopRetrospective I saw t480 but the buyer's rating is not great, also found a used A475, E470. they all have the same price. I'm so confused because they all look the same and the minimalistic design is very eye catching 🤤

Helping is what I do! The x80 means 8th gen Intel and that's very desirable for longevity for official Windows 11 support. T480, E480 and X280 for example. If you want to save up, the T450 is not a slouch and has PowerBridge. Let me know if you have any other questions.

If I remember right, its the sliding plastic bracket that helps for easier docking. Some people remove it but if you are running your ThinkPad that hot then the dock isn't going to make much of a difference.

@@LaptopRetrospective oof, I should proceed with caution then, thanks for the reply

@danielhandika8767 That depends. If you're going to push it hard, a small piece of plastic isn't going to change the name of the game. 😂

Depends on what you want. The X1 is lighter by far, but not quite as upgradable.

@@LaptopRetrospective thanks a bunch. Guess I'll look at the t450 then. Gotta keep it for a couple of years at least, so yeah, makes sense going by your logic to upgrade ram etc later on if needed. Great reviews btw, I've subscribed to your channel. Love from India!

Thanks for your support and I am glad I was able to help.

Pretty sure that the connector is different?

Just the touch models.

Using a T450s with IPS and not a touch screen.

Nice!

It's just low resolution and brightness. Most want the nicest display possible.

@@LaptopRetrospective Thank you!

You're welcome!

@@LaptopRetrospective can it output to projector at 1920x1080?

Answered your question on your other comment.

Then I'd suggest you check the system requirements for each game carefully. ThinkPads aren't gaming laptops first.

As long as one battery is connected it shouldn't?

Like all video editing, it will depend on how complex your project is and the resolution of your footage.

I assume you've tried every driver out there? Also have you tried it under Linux to see if it's hardware or software?

​@@LaptopRetrospective It ran Windows when I first got it, but I daily drive Linux. So yea, not a driver issue, because the exact same thing happens in both.

Noted. Might need to be replaced at some point or further diagnosis of the TrackPoint which I can't say I know much about never having to do it myself.

@@LaptopRetrospective ...and I did replace it, only to find the issue is still there in the same form. At least I have a backlit keyboard now :D

So strange. Nice consolation prize though.

Oh, I've heard about this error. Here is something to try: "During the BIOS update, it can happen that the computer no longer starts up and gives only five beeps as an error message. After a few hours without power (remove battery and power cord), it should start again and then have the BIOS updated without errors."

Other possibility is its overheating?

It is not overheating, fan is spooky quiet, and I replaced thermal paste not to long back. Could not get it to go over 75C.

You meant removing the cmos battery, both batteries, and the power adapter? I did that and left it overnight. There isn't a difference.

@@No-vh7yq Throw it in the bin.

It isn't pictured often as the configuration isn't that common due to the limit on the single-sided drives, but I've also seen some crazy mods to fit larger drives. www.laptopultra.com/guide/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T450s-Disassembly-17.jpg

Might also have been a typo. You can always reach out to them.

@@LaptopRetrospective they told me they ran out of i5-5300u. what a bummerrr. anw T450 is good and lovely My pain is alleviated by your video!

I'm happy to help any way I can. You've still got a nice laptop.

Still a great laptop for a large variety of tasks. Ultimately it depends on your needs.

The 470 is much newer in terms of CPU and other specs. Both are excellent machines mind you. Both run Windows 10 or Linux well. Neither officially supports Windows 11 but it can still be put on them.

@@LaptopRetrospective ok thanks for your fast answer

You're welcome! Let us know what you get/decide.

Check your system requirements but CAD isn't super demanding IIRC. i5 cpu?

Yeah the i5 2.6ghz version.

Looks like SolidWorks, or at least current versions are very, very resource demanding: www.solidworks.com/sw/support/SystemRequirements.html

There a typo on the CPU? The S variant is a bit different and doesn't have all the same features this one does. Even so, I think you'd enjoy it more than your idea pad, maybe with the exception of the screen, that's the worst panel they came with...

@@LaptopRetrospective ooh I did make a typo *N4100 my bad, figured that out kinda late, the little s at the end never came to mind but yeah I do think I might enjoy it compared to this idea pad especially with it's potential, maybe even the T440. Just really intrigued by these thinkpads in general even tho my PC knowledge not really the best. Never really cared too much about screen resolution, just more interested with performance. But a screen has some aspects to how a laptop will perform also so I'm probably saying it too soon. Anyways appreciate the feedback!

Happy to help in any way I can.

I know many people with T450's and they are enjoying them very much.

Which X1 Carbon?

@@LaptopRetrospective 7th gen

Quite the upgrade. I won't be able to weigh in since the newest one I've handled is the 3rd generation.

If I understand you correctly, you have 16GB between two 8GB sticks and want to go up to 32GB or two sticks of 16GB? That's easily done if you can get a good deal on the RAM.

@@LaptopRetrospective i think max RAM acceptable for this model is 16 GB, or 8 GB for each of two slots. Memory is DDR3. I never have seen for laptoos DDR3 Memory grater than 8 GB per module. I cannot find the 16GB or 32GB DDR3 laptop memory modules anywhere on web. Where have you seen such modules ? There are available DDR4 16GB capacity memory for purchase. But DDR4 may not be compatable.

Looks to be possible. www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/3kmlzv/people_keep_saying_the_t450_supports_32gb_of_ram/?

Not sure, haven't got experience with that model yet. Not sure if there would be a difference.

both FHD panels are disappointing. The best 1080p IPs panel is either the T490s' low-power 400nit IPS panel, or the OEM 1080p AUO panel in the T450s

Thanks Ranen!

Yep, all depends on what you need.

@@LaptopRetrospective The T450 to the T470 are all very similar even in performance. I think the main difference is USB-c or the screen to a degree. So a T450s is a choice to consider if your budget is without a quad core that is in the T480. T460s are pretty cheap these days also but you don't get the removable battery.

For me, a big draw for these models is PowerBridge.

@@LaptopRetrospective I agree. I know most don't like this but I prefer a TN panel because a lot of people don't know TN panel response time is way faster than IPS. I used both and you can tell that the IPS screen mouse scrolling lags. Plus TN panel provides better battery life. TN downside is aint good for people that do media work or watch media.

Yeah, tradeoffs depending on what you truly need/value. Nice to have options.

No. It would only go back as far as the Tx40 era.