The 2.0 is a great car! espacilly here in Europe i can really recommend it, with the elsd and the big breaks;)
@asgaming20193 жыл бұрын
Gas mileage
@imnotusingmyrealname45663 жыл бұрын
cough cough Alex on Autos
@krono77173 жыл бұрын
8:26 Girl advice with Tedward. Thanks for the heads up, I'll try and never say that LOL
@samholly31683 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I’m saying about the Supra. To shave off 219 lbs, while not reducing straight-line performance by much, is pretty impressive to me. Not to mention that you’re saving 8 grand if you’re buying one new. If power is such a necessity to you, there are plenty of tunes. It’s a B48 after all. For me, and for a lot of people in my opinion, the 2.0T is the way to go.
@Mcvalverte3 жыл бұрын
I know you won’t pay that much for 2 litre. Stop lying to yourself
@carboydorifutoparty39763 жыл бұрын
@@Mcvalverte car was sorta made to be a later/cheap and easy to get track car for people to get/2j swap.
@imnotusingmyrealname45663 жыл бұрын
In my country it's 20k cheaper.
@alekwhite55603 жыл бұрын
Or you can save 25k and get a Toyota 86
@alekwhite55603 жыл бұрын
In my opinion it's way overpriced and not worth the crap performance
@autonewstv863 жыл бұрын
So this supra has 3hp less than the GR Yaris? Never thought i would see the day where a yaris has more power than a supra
@thomastraicoff213 жыл бұрын
Bee Cars - INTERIOR Saw this comment on carwows vid too
@IEATU953 жыл бұрын
The car makes about 300 horsepower everyone with a dyno can attest to that. BMW underrated their engines from the factories.
@John-zs4fh3 жыл бұрын
I think it would've been a really interesting result if Toyota decided to use the LC 500 chassis for the new Supra, tbh
@scuckplexity3 жыл бұрын
I think it's because they don't want to lose money...
@jvanegas143 жыл бұрын
it would have been much too large and heavy to be honest. The LC500 is more of a luxury sport GT, on a par with the Aston Martin DB series or BMW 8 series. Also, that would have driven up the price substantially. I'm still a little disappointed at how little input Toyota had in making the MKV Supra though
@verdict11633 жыл бұрын
A lightened, short wheelbase LC500 with the V8 would have been magical.
@AriesUmbra3 жыл бұрын
@@jvanegas14 the lc500 is closer in length to the mkiv than the mkv is. Given the trend of cars becoming larger, the lc500 platform is pretty bang on dimension-wise as a supra.
@anthonywoodward20273 жыл бұрын
@@verdict1163 that’s basically the RC F, fine car, but it’s not flying off of the shelves, mostly because if you want RWD and V8, you may as well go American, you can even get a stick, which is no longer an option in any lexus
@LiamDrives3 жыл бұрын
Lighter is always better! I think a 6 speed manual would be the cherry on top.
@imnotusingmyrealname45663 жыл бұрын
BMW has one in the Z4! They really should give us that.
@Josh.Carnes Жыл бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 well this aged some what well, except the 2.0 doesn’t have one :(
@ichiroudesu_.3 жыл бұрын
I love the mk5, who cares about what fanboys say. Its an amazing, beautiful, and overall well balanced car.
@ddg22563 жыл бұрын
So interesting to see such a well known KZfaqr driving a Supra around the corner for me. Exit 1 southbound is pretty fun, I love to take it to 70 before getting off.
@jeremiah73863 жыл бұрын
I finally have a dream car. I load up the webpage for configuring the car a few times a week as I plot my path to buying one within the next year. A base model 2.0L Supra in Nitro Yellow with a few mods thrown into it. I intend on upgrading the turbocharger to a bigger model (one day) and replacing the plastic intake pipes with the aluminum aftermarket ones. I might mess with the exhaust, I might not…I prefer the deeper exhaust notes of the 3.0L but not the deeper price 😅
@TigsFerrariPeeks3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@wheisenberg61553 жыл бұрын
Lol same 😂
@DanielJW2473 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you don´t talk bad about the Supra. We got it, it shares parts with a BMW. But it´s soooo annoying to hear that all the time. People should just enjoy the driving pleasure and be happy.
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I don’t want to just repeat the obvious facts we alllllll know
@paulounia3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the supra with the 2L would make a LOT more sense with a manual, lighter and sportier vs bigger and GT'er! I keep wondering if these things will have Toyota OR BMW maintenance costs in 4-5 years
@jonah91653 жыл бұрын
Probably will have BMW maintenance costs
@jonah91653 жыл бұрын
And agreed this would make way more sense with a stick !
@connorkendrigan453 жыл бұрын
@@jonah9165 Not sure about that, Toyota improved the powertrain significantly. If you look into the development of this car, they updated certain parts of the powertrain to meet Toyota Reliability Standards
@Atthewgoop3 жыл бұрын
If it last 5 years
@39PSIOnTheDaily3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you and I are on the same page when it comes to weight over power. Give me high cornering speed and more stable playfulness vs. more straight line speed and corner instability via throttle.
@saucyp1233 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna say it... I've always liked the Mk5 supra and I feel like this one is just a different flavor of a good thing. What's not to like?
@chuckyfox92843 жыл бұрын
Now they just need to change the steering wheel and I might buy one...in 4 years
@baranhazar233 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s so basic. They should definitely change it
@eyubjj3 жыл бұрын
yeah not super big on the looks but at the same time i do like how simple and ergonomic it is
@JurgenDX3 жыл бұрын
It's the same steering wheel i had in my 1 Series back in 2011... It's the biggest weak point in this car imo
@jeremiah73863 жыл бұрын
The newest Altima has this flat bottom steering wheel that I’ve just fallen in love with. I never thought I’d like squared off steering wheels but it’s the shit honestly
@LeonMk4FR3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that the B48 sounds very, very similar to a Mini Cooper S and the rear drive nature means it's a driftable Mini 😂
@hubiflatoutx11643 жыл бұрын
Very similar? It is the same engine hahaha
@LeonMk4FR3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly the same, some internals have been upgraded to cope with the extra 60bhp over the Cooper S engine
@alolanstarboy3 жыл бұрын
The comments are already something lmao, Car guys really love to complain about everything huh?
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
It’s the most critical group of people beaten only by mothers in law
@teme55293 жыл бұрын
The celica ts is about 1300kg (2866 pounds), driver and full tank included. It has been a joy oh boy I tell you. The lightweightness always brings out the spark of fun.
@vaughanq3 жыл бұрын
Despite the fact that there is a lot of BMW parts on the MK 5, I still think it is a beautiful vehicle, and it seems to be a ton of fun to drive! I don't think all the hate is really deserved.
@EvanJohnsonthepckid3 жыл бұрын
This thing is kick ass idc what anyone thinks.
@IMSColoradoSpringsАй бұрын
I have the 2023 2.0. Much more power than I need. I get 42 MPG freeway. Other owners have reported the same.
@hiepphambui39413 жыл бұрын
This four cylinder sounds good though.
@supersecularboypants3 жыл бұрын
What you're hearing is LIES.
@Rory6952 жыл бұрын
this the engine that should be in the 86
@endlessdrive84213 жыл бұрын
This is how I look at the two variants Supra 2.0 = Touge weapon Supra 3.0 = Track weapon
@ryanmcfarland19003 жыл бұрын
The handling would have to be pretty special for me to pay $8k more than a Mustang GT for 205 less horsepower $7k more than a Type R. I know the car is way different than a mustang and type r, but I don't really understand what niche this fills. If you want a light, tossable sports car, get a Miata or BRZ. Once you pass 3000lbs, you may as well have some power to back it up.
@damienbrooks98642 жыл бұрын
I like this guy cuz he is always so positive towards a car no matter what it is
@gavcom40603 жыл бұрын
people are literally complaining about the car just because it’s a BMW. if Toyota made the exact same car with the exact engine and chassis, y’all wouldn’t even complain
@Skeppyberry3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the roads I dive daily in a video is pretty cool not gonna lie
@azrzgaming3 жыл бұрын
Great video Ted! This car just looks & sounds awesome
@tomycont3 жыл бұрын
Tedward: "Try to be original on your comment section" Me: "It's a BMW"
@rokmulec4983 жыл бұрын
Although it's a smaller exhaust, this sounds pretty nice. Only... gosh, I miss manual transmission. Musically, it develops revs too quickly for my liking (yes, only my liking, I'm not complaining in general). The change in the sound piped into the cabin while changing modes is pretty obvious.
@diegoalvarez68613 жыл бұрын
What a way to start the morning
@andreweastwood30423 жыл бұрын
It makes a lot of sense to have a lighter, slightly slower car makes more sense to me. I'm not going for speed, I just want a fun drive.
@carlosorozco47863 жыл бұрын
Great video Tedward! It does look like it's a lot of fun to drive!
@QuizzyV3 жыл бұрын
Do you find this to be noticeably better or different than the 2.0 Z4? Because I personally felt super disappointed by that one. Dead at the top of the rev range, quick but completely disconnected steering, a synthetic and almost lifeless driving experience, and no manual to even try to bring some mechanical feel back to some aspect of the car. I will say that it did feel light compared to other BMWs I drove that day, making even the 2.0 feel very capable and the whole car feel...tossable? makes me wonder how the Supra would be, with any engine config. super bummed about the trans though.
@Trochanus3 жыл бұрын
Steering is way better then in the Z4;) The power is very flat in the top, but thats not a bad thing, if you are going to have fun on backroads(atleast for me)
@tylers_173 жыл бұрын
welp i didn’t need to wait that long for the bmw comments
@highc99773 жыл бұрын
Ayyy, tedward!
@DriversSide3 жыл бұрын
I personally really love the new supra. I feel like I would be happy with either engine. I just wish there was at least a 6 speed manual option. I'm sure the paddles are great, but this car should have three pedals as an option at least. Also, you can turn lane keep assist off right??
@traxxas5253 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can disable lane keep, really the first thing that needs to be done
@Paul-ot8qu3 жыл бұрын
So much for the break in period 😂
@TranceFur3 жыл бұрын
Unnecessary for most modern engines.
@Fordguy19973 жыл бұрын
Man I can relate to that smoking truck comment. One time I was driving across the state with a fucked exhaust- couldn't bear to go over 65 except on downhill because it was too damn loud. Started smelling burning brakes/clutch - thinking wtf is wrong now, is my car on fire?! Pull off the highway, look underneath, look under the hood, no smell. Shrugged and got back on the highway (possibly the slowest 0-63). Started smelling it again, started freaking out again. Finally I see a truck on the side of the road, pretty sure a trailer tire was on fire. Poor guy, but man I was so happy
@yungg80153 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video king!
@skylinesandro3 жыл бұрын
i'm glad you stopped being lazy and started taking fresh IG screenshots
@mpa19313 жыл бұрын
People - "BRZ NEEDS TO BE TURBO!!!" Me - "Supra 2.0 yo"
@NoHope_3 жыл бұрын
im sure its very hard to tell on the street and not on track, but hows the bump steer, that and the buffeting with the windows rolled down have really kept me away from this car especially cause i can get basically the same drive train in any 30i bmw and f56 mini, and not have those downfalls.
@Trochanus3 жыл бұрын
mini is way different with a non longitudunal engine. Yeah it is the same engine, but another transmission and just fwd
@NoHope_3 жыл бұрын
@@Trochanus and a quarter of the price
@Trochanus3 жыл бұрын
@@NoHope_ Still you cant compare it by any means. The one is a sports car the other just a stupid hot hatch.
@NoHope_3 жыл бұрын
@@Trochanus yet the mini would run that supra on a track, the supra is a horribly handling car at speed, the mini is one of the best track cars you can buy for under 20k
@Trochanus3 жыл бұрын
@@NoHope_ I actually dont know what you are talking about, yes there is bumpsteer, and yes thats a huge engineering fail. But the car is still a great sports car. On backroads is damn fast and fun. Mine got 4000km on it right now, most on backroads even in snowy conditions and on winter tyres real fun. Not even comparable to a mini or another hot hatch and yes i drove these roads with many cars already. There are better cars sure, but at this price level new? No. But in europe we get the 2.0 with the big breaks and the eLSD.
@frozenpete7883 жыл бұрын
Probably an interesting chassis to drive for someone who doesn't care about the inline 6 (although it's the major point of the supra but why not afterall) or who might be still learning rwd. Better balance, I'm sure it has plenty enough poke to do some oopsy moments, 30 years ago we had no choice, inline 6 heavy nose but smooth and torquey, or inline 4, mostly na, great chassis but unless you rev the crap out of it (if you could because with a Bmw M40 ... you know).
@bossykxngtahzai163 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the inline 6 but that four banger good make a good track car
@johnvaldez40443 жыл бұрын
This review reminds me of your preference for the manual 228i to the m235i in the past. It would be interesting to see your thoughts between the bmw 230i and this 2.0 Supra.
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
incredible memory for those videos
@chessvodkaopera3 жыл бұрын
Toyota sport: Lets partner up with BMW Toyota reliability: left the room
@juanignaciovelazcogezscheg31763 жыл бұрын
Without manual transmission... :-S
@bickleyjonas61453 жыл бұрын
Never liked the feeling of the hood being that long in any automobile. Feels like you're too far away from the front almost like you're driving from a back seat 😅
@39PSIOnTheDaily3 жыл бұрын
Oof, I wonder how you’d feel about being in a first or second generation Viper then!
@bickleyjonas61453 жыл бұрын
@@39PSIOnTheDaily Probably like I'm driving a limo backwards.
@AbsInABox3 жыл бұрын
waiting for the day drive and discuss the new RF Miatas, nice video
@sieg73753 жыл бұрын
Love the content brother
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RagShop13 жыл бұрын
I'm enthusiastic about this but a recent Car and Driver test at the Virginia International Raceway exposed the brakes as a weakness. Fade was progressive on this tough track compared to the Supra 3.0's much better brakes and Toyota should upgrade the 2.0's brakes.
@NEMotoGuy3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly quick, wasn’t expecting that. Probably a much better daily over the 3.0.
@papa_pt3 жыл бұрын
straight 6 is a much more enjoyable experience than a 4 on all points
@NEMotoGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@papa_pt Oh believe me I know. I wouldn't trade my 3.0 for this, but as a daily I can see the desirability of the 2.0.
@ocbtyga32383 жыл бұрын
3:06 Thats sick! Theres another supr....oh..wait...
@p-o-r_m_a41603 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure no one thought your joke was funny.
@TheMafyoz3 жыл бұрын
The mk3 mk4 supras where gt cars, noone cares about a light Gt car...smh
@n.d.43173 жыл бұрын
So thats why they made the mk4 lighter than the mk3! Genius !
@supersecularboypants3 жыл бұрын
I will never forgive Toyota for doing this shit. Supra is the quintessential Toyota car. Instead of a Toyota you get a BMW Z4 with 5 less horsepower. Moneygrab tactics
@zeroyon45623 жыл бұрын
megaman mooshrom Corolla is the quintessential Toyota, Supra is just an overweight gt car.
@supersecularboypants3 жыл бұрын
@@zeroyon4562 Quintessential enthusiast car is what I was trying to say. Most people don't care much about their corolla. It's made for transport of people, the Supra on the other hand, has become much more than an "overweight gt car" over the years. And Toyota knows that, but they have chosen money instead.
@LazyYoumu3 жыл бұрын
@@supersecularboypants "Quintessential enthusiast car" The Toyobaru wants to have a little chat
@kristoKR-zj8oi3 жыл бұрын
0:46 damn.. that's one clean exhaust
@majbabovic53643 жыл бұрын
This car needs a manual transmission. Would seriously consider it if they put a manual in it at some moment. Z4 with this engine has it as an option here in Europe.
@carboydorifutoparty39763 жыл бұрын
It's either they're waiting for the right moment to do it or they're trying to get the 6 speed that'll be in the new M3/M4 and will do their own changes to it.
@majbabovic53643 жыл бұрын
I agree, but from Toyota's perspective that doesn't make any sense. They have a working transmission from BMW which they need just to bolt on. I'm not sure they are developing their own manual for this car, for like 5% of us who would buy it, other 95% would buy auto box anyway 😂
@carboydorifutoparty39763 жыл бұрын
@@majbabovic5364 well they probably were waiting till the Z was announced so its possible they'll do it with the 22 model mk5. If anything knowing them any change they make with any car is just them being extra with it and doing a bunch of other changes around the car like they always do.
@longbowdt3 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Drive a slow car fast = more fun!
@justme-ks1qr3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you are not the Brad
@kennysun99903 жыл бұрын
Look at my Supra 🔥 Nice BMW bruh 🌝
@konstantintomilin18263 жыл бұрын
If I ever buy one of these, I'll swap the badges to BMW ones
@kroneyt14933 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm like 99% sure this is right down the road from the dealership I work at
@j.38543 жыл бұрын
That car would be many times more enjoyable with a manual. I realize everyone says that. But give us an option Toyota. I mean the car is like 45 grand.
@carboydorifutoparty39763 жыл бұрын
Wait a few years. 2.0s were specifically made to either become later on easy to get track cars or 2j swap cars for those who don't like whats in the 3.0 mk5.
@Tanstin13 жыл бұрын
Supra 2.0 at 3200lbs: "Weight Reduction LIFE, baby!" 86/BRZ at 2800lbs : "Am I a joke to you?"
@carboydorifutoparty39763 жыл бұрын
2.0 actually weights just under 3100lbs actually.
@tscook103 жыл бұрын
I think this sounds better than the implementation in that M235i.
@abdalgondal3153 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've last seen a BoMoWa Supra
@jamespark6132 Жыл бұрын
I just don't like automatic/parking button thing. Can't really say it is reliable if you don't own it more than 10yrs plus. Don't forget 2023 Nissan Z has to stop production on the automatic because the parking did not engage and people car was rolling downhill.
@SourDisc3 жыл бұрын
The sound reminds me a little bit of those old Nissan SR20/18 engines. Its not quite as throaty, but it has the same kind of frequencies at high RPM I think.
@skip741x33 жыл бұрын
Dude, that thing is plenty fast! people are spoiled these days, not u per se, but most reviewers...try driving a 27yr old probe gt and then hop into that thing... it would feel like a missle... that motor sounds fantastic for a 4 banger
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
welcome to the internet...They'd critique a Michelin Star chef while eating a microwave burrito from the gas station
@Skeppyberry3 жыл бұрын
I was just at Toyota of nashua
@hussaingahlot23183 жыл бұрын
I hate how some new sport sedan and coupe weighs like 1800-1900 kgs and more than 2000 for electric cars
@21335186z3 жыл бұрын
Injectors, blasting caps, spark plugs, fuel pump, electric water pump, carbon buildup. Oh boy reliability is not going to be up to Toyotas standard XD
@endlessdrive84213 жыл бұрын
You can always tell who hasn't owned a modern bmw when they still refer to age old complaints that have largely been addressed in the latest generations. Don't get me wrong, I used to say the same shit, but after owning a '17 430i I know that it isn't true nowadays. I also used to give Jaguar shit for being unreliable, but I've never owned one so I don't have the right to make that judgment even if it has some historical merit.
@abdelrahmannajjar84083 жыл бұрын
can you please start saying the msprs of each car you review. thanks
@rickyrobertson27363 жыл бұрын
Everyone complains about it being bmw inspired but there are many exotic cars with other engines Lamborghini truck has an Audi engine a Maserati has a Ferrari engine and nobody complains
@kurtisevans13143 жыл бұрын
Whilst I am ok with a 2.0L Supra (remember, its only the more recent Supra's that had 3.0L engines) I don't think that swapping to a 4 cylinder engine really helps. If it were a 2.0L 6 cylinder then it would be a bit more ... Well, more Supra. Lets be honest, we all know that the 3.0L doesn't actually produce 335hp, its much more than that. So it's difficult to really compare them without laptimes and quarter mile times
@Poorschedriver3 жыл бұрын
Sounds much better than I was expecting, but given that it's actually a BMW, I'm guessing that sound is significantly fake or modified. Otherwise it seems like it could be a good enthusiast offering, especially with a tune, but damn the transmission sounds kinda slow.... I think if they made the 4cyl in a manual then it would be an intriguing proposition.
@raydoherty54193 жыл бұрын
Give it a manual and this is a great sports car for the money, really nothing else would compete
@xxcar_loverxxplaysgames66633 жыл бұрын
Rearview mirror hopefully is different
@nevertrustbob12912 жыл бұрын
Thinking of getting one used saw some near me that are pretty nice looking. This I think will drop in price with the new Z coming out. The Z is just as nice looking and has plenty of tech and with it coming with a manual and 400 HP its going to be hard to sell these at 40k for a 4 banger for much longer I can see these around 35k soon.
@ayserg3 ай бұрын
bro was here before the markups
@candycornpeeps3 жыл бұрын
I hope the next toyota partnership is with lotus and brings back the MR2.
@federalbureauofindigestion40843 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that I actually don't mind the manual transmission not being there. I think I am used to the idea of an auto being in these cars, and also come to accept these new fangled high speed autos.
@_Graves3 жыл бұрын
Dang now I have to buy one
@HaramiSalami4202 жыл бұрын
Just imagine they would put a beefer version of the GR Yaris Engine in this 😳
@dvdlbck3 жыл бұрын
Sounds exactly the same as my 2015 Mini Cooper S, except I’ve got hundreds of less pounds, a manual transmission, and 300 hp tune! Supra looks way better though
@ManualFlying3 жыл бұрын
Thank god they still have buttons in the interior...
@confidentlocal86003 жыл бұрын
Hate to be "that guy" but this looks like it would be a blast with a 6-speed manual, like the Mazda RX-8 used to be, or the current BRZ/86, especially for those who value handling and fun over raw speed. Maybe put one of those new 7-speed manuals into it for better economy.
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
haha no you're not wrong. A manual would add a lot of life to the car
@Kev7in.3 жыл бұрын
Everyone has their own opinion
@samuelrodriguez66843 жыл бұрын
A BMW with attitude :)
@kenjkbs3 жыл бұрын
But with same reliability
@Col_Crunch3 жыл бұрын
Of course pretty much the only Toyota interior that I like turns out to be a BMW interior. [Insert Suprised Pikachu meme here]
@yes80323 жыл бұрын
Idc wether this is a bmw or not I still like it I even uploaded a video about this car
@abde46453 жыл бұрын
*IS THAT A SUPRA* Sorry😔
@yes80323 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry 👍I liked your comment
@nissanz58223 жыл бұрын
No, its a BMW... lol
@stephen300o63 жыл бұрын
Well, the old supras were horrible, so.. what's to lose?
@arjunsai83893 жыл бұрын
They should made this bmw Manual
@namelessflat67113 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t sound bad tho
@I53-6243 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think a 2.0 is a little boring, but the points on weight and what not makes a lot of sense.
@jonah91653 жыл бұрын
Im sure they'll start building these engines and slapping giant turbos on them in no time lmao
@juzy84703 жыл бұрын
Nice BMW supra!
@scuckplexity3 жыл бұрын
you got the whole squad laughing............................
@Real_Turismo3 жыл бұрын
🤡
@chrisej59873 жыл бұрын
I mean how hard would it have been to replace the chime in the infotainment with their usual one?... 🤷
@RyanRoadReaper3 жыл бұрын
How's the turbo lag from that tiny engine with a giant turbo strapped onto it?
@BySixa3 жыл бұрын
Modern turbo's especially ball bearing spool super quick anyway
@Japplesnap3 жыл бұрын
Giant turbo? You think the turbo is big? Really?
@lotsofcurveslover3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much used ones will be in 4 to 5 years.
@DennyBalance3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed it’s always people that couldn’t afford the car that complain about said car(s)
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
I see it as people being let down by something they would have aspired to own