This game is pure fucking bliss. If it ends up dying then something is deeply wrong with the modern gaming community.

Been having the most fun I’ve had in a while in The Finals recently with my 3 stack. Get 2 friends and the game is so much fun

cheating isn't just a trending problem in videogames.....it's a really huge problem with humans in general right now

The Finals is doing bad with player retention. If you completed battle pass, you have 50lv career you have nothing to do at all. You can either grind weapon mastery, either play ranked with sweaty players and cheaters. Don’t get me wrong, I love this game to the bottom of my heart, I’ve never had that much joy playing FPS competitive shooter. We need to protect The Finals

The cheating situation is so bad overall now. People even cheat In Duolingo just to be on top of the leaderboard 💀

It’s the only game I’m excited to get on to play. Came from COD which is just anger inducing casual catering trash. I don’t think there’s anything fresh that can compete?

Tbh they just need solo modes. A lot of people dont have friends to play this game with and solo queue just keeps failing Solo bank it steal the spotlight was one of the best modes ever added. Good map. Great loadouts and cosmetics. Banger soundtrack

When a game like the finals dies it shows me to 100% the gaming community loves the standart bullshit like cod they complain the hell out of games nowadays but they want it like this they need the shit they need always the same if there is something new and fresh they dont want it for many reasons they need another cod clone they need another battle royale they need another extraction shooter oh boyyyy they really deserve the shit they get for me the finals is the best fps I played since years and of course there are problems like in every other game and I still have a lil bit of hope that the finals gets more hype I mean they dont need 1 million players but it really deserves a stable player base of 100k

Me and my friend were talking about the finals about a month ago about its state, about how the devs are actually awesome and idk why the community and streamers hate them when they're pushing updates and the seem very passionate. I've played games where theres issues that dont get fixed until a month into the new season, or the bugs will stay in the game for a year, and the devs just don't care, but Embark changed out majority of the issues the community complained about. We agreed the devs aren't the problem, the player-base just wants to complain and complain, Embark deserves a better community.

40:18 yes please, bring back my beloved unranked tournament

They should include patch notes in the game straight after the update so when returning players log back in or when active players log in they can see all the patch notes in the game rather than opening google or checking discord.

thats a fuck ton of tabs open your chrome is probaly using like 10 gbs lol

If this game dies I’m done with fps for a while, this is literally the only enjoyable one at the moment for me

Since the game's very recent release, they have dropped TONs of new content: new game modes, a new map, revamped ranking system, items, storefront, challenges, soundtrack, hotfixes and balancing, AND TWO battlepasses. Alongside keeping an active community and updates via their KZfaq channel. I find it wild when people say "they are doing bad with player retention"

If we need the finals to blow up we need ottr hes one of the main guys keeping it alive with his content!!

Laws change with the times and need to adapt. As gaming becomes and increasingly larger part of our society there needs to be legislation passed to reprimand cheat developers or consumers.

Idea of a game mode: Goal: reach $50,000 - 3 teams (of 5) - 1 kill earns $1,000 - 15 min per round - No respawn time Special features of the mode: Bonuses of $5,000 appear one by one (like cashboxes) during the game. The players have the choice or not to take them. If a player takes it he must survive 1 min with this bounty, and his position is revealed. However, if a player from an opposing team kills him, he recovers this bonus instantly and the 1 minute timer continues.

My point still stands if there isn’t 13 big ass streamers making tiktoks about this fucking game no one is interested, if it doesn’t have a super competitive esports team it doesn’t matter. if the player count is under 30k it’s dead. ppl complain about the same game but aren’t willing to try something new for more than a few days

L + ratio to haters gg

“It’s these damn kids” ottr’s age startin to show

We also need a duos 2v2v2 mode and new, smaller maps for 2v2v2 game modes.

I have been putting so many hours into the finals It’s been really fun I love the customization and earning and unlocking by just playing is great. I just hope the game doesn’t die it seems like it could be unbalanced but I love the chaos

One of the main problems for me with this game is the gun play. It just feels clunky an inaccurate. Not to mention that they keep nerfing the already hard to aim guns to the point where they are complete ass, or just leaving the unused guns to collect dust with no buffs. They need to adjust visual recoil and gunplay in general.

I love the heck out of this game

At 40:22 he talks about unranked tournaments and I completely agree i loved them id hop on do one or to then be wormed up for the real thing it was great

I believe that what is happening with The Finals will also happen with XDefiant, or any other new FPS. The point is that there are other FPS that are already consolidated on the market, and even though these games are not having a good time with their community, companies know how to bring them back. I'll use my example, I'm a Battlefield player, and EA/DICE knows that if it delivers at least a BF4 experience, the community will return to playing, and this example applies to COD, Warzone, Apex, etc. So I believe that Embark will need to be very cautious, and follow the plan so as not to spend money in the wrong way.

11:07 - Mostly correct. Even I noticed this trend, and I asked a few people I know in my village about the effects of Covid on public nighttime, and they told me a lot of people stopped coming outside and it changed the state of the village at night. So many people started staying inside instead of going outside. Though, to be honest, I was never really social prior to Covid as well, because I'm very much fine not talking to people for months if I pursue some cool new hobby, so this was new for me to hear. But anyways, I was thankful for them giving me information about the effects of Covid that I have been researching in my village.

The only frustrating thing I found in the Final is matchmaking. I don't play tournaments, I don't care about rating or whatever - I play videogames to get portion of adrenaline and dopamine after boring or stressing working day. I expect the game will give me competitive environment, I expect my teammates and opponents will have close levels, I expect "close" game. But instead, it drops me to absolutely non-competitive games when one single team dominates on the battlefield and crushes the rest teams. And the game keeps doing this each time, 10-20 in a row, I keep getting smashed. This demotivates, so I deleted the finals after over 100 hours of playing, maybe one day I will try again, but not now

the absolute best anti-cheat that doesnt need industry leading developments is a goddamn price tag, make it 10 bones, and you make cheating way more of a hassle I dont like brining up the boogieman, but i have more experience with this, Overwatch 1 barely had cheater problems, even when it went heavily on sale for multiple times in its lifespan just say'in

ottr: i go gym also ottr: hardstyle playlist in recommended damn straight he goes gym

Just came to check and I can confirm The Chocolate Incident of April 20th 2024 has been omitted. Good job Ottr's editor. (seriously tho the fuck were you thinking lmao)

i think the biggest problem is solo q being hell, you literally need friends to play this game (which many fps nerds probably don't)

what do you think of the medium revolver? I've been finding a lot of success with it in diamond, headshots are nasty.

i love this game, but i like more dark and realistic (sort of like war or special ops) shooters, so i've just been playing r6. it helps when someone like jynxzi provides r6 stuff everyday and maybe u could revive this game like he did to r6

Responding to your gym thing I am a kid, yes I am but this will give you input from a kids perspective I swim 9 times a week and am a medalist in qld swimming. I just do light PT once or twice a week to keep my body fit I’m not strong but I’m light. I a can do more pull ups / push ups than anyone else in my grade. I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THE GYM. All my friends have but not me. I have 1 jacked friend that is being scouted for the Australian rugby team, and he goes to the gym 4 times a week. I see these jacked kids on tic tock that can only be on steroids or be going to the gym to much, while the kids do not understanding the side effects on your body from working out and taking steroids at a young age. My jacked friend sees the physio every week to make sure he is ok. It’s just stupid that these kids think it’s healthy. Also another thing is the fact that the gym influencers post these things. Bet you most know that they are influencing kids. They are almost encouraging kids to take these medications work out way too much and damage their body. Now being a swimmer I may know more about the long therm effects of over the top working out. But gym influencers know way better and they still make these videos showing how jacked they are probably knowing that kids will try and copy them. It’s annoying that the influencers doing this is trying to attract attention but the kids don’t know the side effects of doing what they are doing.

That’s because heavies are kinda made for teamplay they need other character movement options because there so slow so if your team isn’t playing around you your always behind the fight but if your played around you become a powerhouse that entire fights have to revolve around

I'm a young adult in a university and The Finals is my go-to chaotic game.

Sounds like the finals is going through want tf2 went through, but it doesnt have the die hard fanbase to back up the lack of replayability

Man I love this game so much, it’s been an absolute blast to play these past few months, hopefully it doesn’t die but the first pvp game I loved was Evolve and it died horribly due to it requiring communication and this game really does need a trio, don’t necessarily have to talk, but u gotta compliment each other to really hit that sweet spot of fun

Does anyone know how to complete/any tips on the blast Caster Achievement with the nerf/carriable nerfs

Can you post link to the original video?

One of the best games I have played and the most fun I have had in some time. Hope it gets the attention it deserves

If you can see people at all ranges with invis on, what is the point of the invisibility? It's in a fine state right now, and if anything the last nerf was too harsh, especially for anyone running light in ranked.

Thank you for this video^^

the only solution is making cheating websites inaccessible. It needs to be extremely monitored and VERY punishable - even jail time for compromising a business’s success. people should be TERRIFIED to download hacks in any form

@Ottr, you say the issue is that it isnt fun to play heavy at one point in the video 27:30 (and I personally agree because I am a light main) but I wonder if the more underlying issue is that heavy requires support to be good, aka teamwork and team coordination. And that doesnt exist in casual. I think heavy would be very enjoyable to play with a healer and a team that actually worked around my utility.

I feel a good option would honestly be to just make this game a $40 purchase. Anything to help fund this incredible About the balancing topic, l think that Embark could lean into the whole game show aspect by having two divisions: the first where it’s only ranked tournament with that initial week 1 balancing for the whole season, and another that’s more casual and gets the weekly updates to shake it up

I think its also the fact that its not available on xbox one or ps4

I want the finals to have a proper free for all mode for all the solos out there

It would be great if they added a quick match that puts you in a random mode. I know it's useless but this way you play a variety to chill and if you like a mode then you choose that

I think adding 6v6 game modes would help a lot, imo. Know a lot of people who don't play games like Apex cause it means a friend or friends can't play

They needa add badges we can grind like apex. Kill 20/30 people in one game etc.

I played light in the first and second beta along with the movement ability it use to feel so good but now all i can do is do some damage amd hide

The finals is not an adhd game yes a lot happens during the matches from game to game but because of the immense amount of things going on it’s easy to be distracted in a setting where the objective matters above all as well as in order to have a better chance of winning you need a good tactics book one you can stick to

I play light, never use the stun gun or camo, and am in diamond. The dash is the most fun to be had in this game

Just started playing a week ago and it is my favorite FPS since Apex Legends. Just a shame that I am totally miserable solo queueing and I really wish Lights had more viable ways to play. Other classes have a couple weapon and gadget setups they can use but Lights are pretty railroaded

@ 57:00 talking about the buckets. Wouldn't it be neat if there was a matchmaking option in quickplay either - 1. match players better than me or 2. Match players worst than me. if your looking to have fun and dominate you can, if you are looking to challenge your skills and play with those worst you can.

Its literally impossible to find ranked on South america... Its just insane how quickly it the player count went downhill... I LOVED playing the finals, but I gave up

Add more social features like lobby and match text chat and team chat

Just want a causal mode with out worrying about having a bad teammate and the unnecessary buff and nerfs where they change a guns damage by 1 point or reload speed is longer by .05 seconds. Its unnoticed and doesn’t make a difference

I'd love a short video with you and your thoughts about the game ottr

I dont think I agree with the respawn time being an issue in competitive (look at most comp games like val/league) but in casual I wouldnt complain if they were shortened.

World tour maps per season 🗣️🗣️🗣️

regarding balancing: You can't logically argue with people whom have already made up their mind emotionally, they'll keep inventing new evidence to back their emotional decision.

I just think the finals needs more casual modes. Cash out & bank it are more on the competitive side, push is more casual & easier to jump into. Adding CTF,oddball, domination,ect would help keep players.

Honestly they should give us notification system that shows us any changes they made to the game, so casual players can catch up to those that are well informed.🐱

That's really great that you're giving even more visibility to THiiXY's video ! 😊 Thank you so much for that and for giving your thoughts about this topic. 😉 Much love ! 😘 Oh and as I already said below THiiXY's video, much strength to the devs ! You're doing good guys. 🥰

My #1 complaint: They nerf the fun away (and not even really add any fun).... I wish they would stop nerfing S-tier completely and instead simply BUFF the non-meta stuff. That way nobody is sad and we have more viable options to choose from. I have quit some games due to my playstyle being nerfed, then I learned a new one, and it got nerfed too, etc. The Finals has zero chance of me quitting (cuz its the best 3 man team shooter out there) but ffs the nerfs are annoying as hell!!! 💀

I really want this game to do well and have a lot more content. Because damn I am goated at this one specific fps. No other fps has clicked in with me. Sucks that there are cheaters every other round though. I played apex for ~600h over the span of two years, and since release of the finals I already have 250h in it.

Most teams with a heavy on them are usually premade

Clocked in almost 400 hours in the first season and only a couple of hours in season 2 just to complete the battle pass I still love the game and I really hope I can play ranked again in season 3 without facing a blatant cheater every other tourney Also CS2 ingame matchmaking is literally HvH once you go above a certain ELO. It will be 4 cheaters + you VS 5 cheaters and the 4 cheaters will just kick you immediately

The finals definitely need a deathmatch.

Holy fucking tabs ottr and I thought I was bad

Weird opinion. They need to build more on the movement. Give people more options in terms of movement and i think that would help alot. Make the game more about different things than teamplay and aim yknow. Give a net speedboost to slides. Maybe walljumps, maybe being able to strafe more agressivly etc.

I really been enjoying the game

The biggest improvement they could make for Finals right now is getting rid of loading animations and sequences. Between searching, loading, animations sequence, more loading, more animation, game live. It's like 3-8 minutes. You need to be able to tap search and get in a game within 2 minutes max

Pretty much everyone I know on Xbox that I'm either friends with or have just played a few rounds with all Miss unranked tournament.I can't think of one person that I know who plays the finals who didn't enjoy unring tournament

It's hard to play the finals as a casual player because they broke the in game voice chat

Let invisibility stay invisible, and make every 5 step glow up a hologram briefly 1,5 seconds after passing,l. That way u know the player passed but not exactly where the player is. Can be used against other players if u add a timer as well. And thia is not me saying do this, just think about 5 options before choosing one and let the community vote during a longer periods without adding patches and a longer investigation time for the developers so they can focus. Or as u say, buff everything els.😅

There are more people playing "Bee Swarm Simulator" on roblox than the finals right now

Also having 3 rounds in a full tournament would be nicer, it would firstly make a full tourney go for less time it would help queue times and i am oce so i suffer like other oce players that have to queue into asia or na, having 3 rounds would mean that it requires less plasyers to start a tourny and could revive oce, i also think that having 4 rounds looks silly seeing 48 players so tiny having 3 rounds we can see each player more clearly and would just be nicer to look at tbh.

The big issue is if there is a problem with the finals that is keeping me from playing the game, what do you really do? 1) voice the opinion, maybe something would happen 2) stop playing the game, not every game is meant for everyone. 3) try not get irritated and continue playing. I want the game to succeed, as it is a fun game. But frequent balance changes among many others typically ruin the fun I'm having, rather than bringing a new avenue to have fun.

How do you guys feel about x defiant so far ? Think it might help the genre out ?

On the topic of weekly patches, they're pushing 2.6 back at least one week, maybe two

This game has become medium heavy heavy heal handhold whole game😂

Brother, not a 59-min video, I have some life to live

I miss unranked tournaments

I gate kept out of diamond by cheaters who shoot through sheild or the game force disconnects me and doesn't let me rejoin and I lose a bunch of fp

Man it's almost like forcing the same medium meta for 6 months straight and nerfing every playstyle that doesn't include a scar into the ground isn't conducive to a healthy game environment

“Everything feels weak” FR this is the problem. They need to buff weapons to feel good, not endless nerfs towards different style pea shooters.

DONT LET "THE FINALS" DIEEEEEE! SAME THING HAPPENED TO "dIRTY BOMB" TITLED GAME COUPLE YEARS BACK,THAT GAME WAS THE BEST FPS I COULD ASK FOR,ID EVEN PLACE IT GREATER THAN CSGO EVEN THOUGH IVE PLAYED CSGO FOR THOUSANDS OF HRS,AND I STILL MISS THAT GAME FFS.PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE FINALS

Limited time mode where explosives dont do damage, but push you around. Like rocket jumping!! Would be really chaotic and fun! Would be interesting to see how it would balance

What I love about this game almost everything is viable and everything has a managable counter. Everything is op and fun to play so nothing is just boring to play. Chaos is everywhere and thats why this game is fun for me. I'm playing the game sinse the closed betas and other than some tweaks and balances that are not that hardcore always can keep things fresh.

The game came out like 2 months ago or something 😭

My crew and I gave up after 3 weeks of absolutely getting shat on by no life Chinese sweats. I'd like to think im good at fps, not a god, but I've definitely had 100+ kill games in BF and more than enough chicken dinners, but this game is loco

This video is so long the Finals died before I could finish watching it.

I feel like the matchmaking in this game is kinda screwed, the thing that attracted me the most when I started playing was the wide variety of weapons and gadgets, you could run around with throwing knives, daggers, sledgehammers and still have a great time. Now if you don't use the best weapons with the best specialties and the best gadgets, well... Prepare to be dead weight for your team and have 0 fun.

12:18 "And then they post that on tik... succ"

The Finals is like a few months old tbh, the weapons that has crosshairs are too good compared to ones that don't and people will use monitor crosshairs that gets advantage. Most weapons are useless and some are situational obviously, cheaters are for some reason everywhere.

In the first season, I really enjoyed the gameplay. But after the release of the second season, I simply could no longer tolerate sweaters in almost every game. I quit the game for two weeks. First game and I immediately come across a cheater. And the situation is not changing at all