I just want to clarify and say I am VERY active on twitter. I saw an instagram reel about vcha not having to learn korean but Felix had to. Mind you most of the comments were defending the creator of the video and they liked a lot of the comments that were bashing vcha. That was already indicating to me that they are a vcha hater and their intention was to hate on them. I just now realized that my algorithm is probably f*cked up because those videos were from months ago. But the hate train continues guys…There’s stays on twitter now who are obviously bothered by vcha making it into the lollapalooza lineup. Like why are you mad over an American group being promoted in America? Anyways, this video is not a joke and I do have proof if you would like to see it then ask me x

I'm a Stay and a VLIGHTS, I'm so sorry for their behaviour 😭

Im not a vlight but I am a stay and this is so f*cked up.. I apologize for those stays😭

I'm a stay and I've never heard of this. If anything, stays are supportive of vcha. Idk where the hate is coming from

As a STAY, i apologise on behalf of others people who claim to be STAY and hates others. STAYs are always suppose to be respectful as chan always tells us not to downgrade others. So we try to be as much as possible. But u know, not everyone in a fandom is the same. There are different people with different mindsets. So not everyone listens to chan... Again, i am so sorry for the unnecessary hate VCHA got from this fandom. We'll try our best to Prevent this from happening

I think the fandom that's always hating on vcha is once, I've never heard of stays. At least on tt

As a vlight THANK YOU FOR THIS I thought I was one of the few ktubers to talk about this!!!

This is so true and stays should calm down and I am a stay myself and I am embarrassed about this behaviour and vcha has done nothing to stays or stray kids and I really appreciate this video

as a stay im sorry of the problems my fandom caused im really embarassed

As a stay I’m also a vlight so it’s kinda disappointing seeing stays hate vcha.. any fandom in general

I'm 200 feet deep into stayville on twt, tiktok, and instagram and I haven't once seen anyone say anything about this. I guess I'm lucky. Personally I'm a fan of Vcha and I watched the whole survival show and I'm so happy for them!

I've seen memes joking about the Felix having to learn English thing, but never in a malicious context. As a person who spends a ton of time in Stay spaces (youtube, reddit, instagram, fans, etc.) I haven't seen any of this hate. In fact when Chan showed support so did Stay. I'm gonna need some receipts

I know some stays that really love vcha and want interactions and collabs asap

I’m not a fan,but I watch their content sometimes and I acknowledge how freakin talented they actually are. Like,they put most groups to shame concerning vocals 😅

I got a new mic! Do yall like the sound quality?

I’ve never heard of this and I’m both stay and vlight ❤ I’m sure *hoping that no one said anything to them, their too young

Im a stay but i stan vcha tho...

omg stop im a huge stay and also a huge vlight, idk why some stays act like this :((

As a stay and vlight, literally what even is that reason for hate 😭 i hope these "stays" get out of doing whatever they're doing. it's just not practical.

Wait , you tellin' me some "Stays" hate these girls ??? I'm sorry but then they aren't worthy to be called stays because STAYs usually love all JYPE groups including vcha 😭🤦🏻‍♀️

Am i missing out orrr?? This is the first time i have heard of such controversy Luv vcha ❤ 😘

Vcha had to learn Korean I think they are all fluent and as you said "they are based on America not Korea" I am a stay but I am honestly disappointed in there behavior imagine being mad at minor that aren't even Korea based thanks for informing me of this information I think you just earned a new subscriber.

As a stay ( specifically a Felix ult) I had no idea about this! It's so easy to tell the difference between toxic and non-toxic stays. I love vcha and I really dont like how hating on idols for something completely beyond their control, and also COMPLETELY NOT THEIR FAULT is so normalised in Kpop nowadays. Felix got eliminated. Ok. That was really sad of course but people are acting like he didn't get added back and become incredibly popular after. Vcha are for a completely different audience to stray kids, and I think they absolutely DEVOURED any covers of skz songs they did on A2K. Toxic stays need to get over themselves. It's a shame that negative members of fandoms shine through so much more than positive ones, because stays can be so welcoming and lovely, but people hating on literally MINORS?? I apologise on behalf of them Im your 100th sub btw :)

this hate train is ridiculous. im a huge stay and also a vlight and there's rlly no reasonable reason to hate on vcha. toxic fandoms can really ruin both groups just like how toxic blinks have made all blinks look bad.

As a Stay I don't understand why? Like, the girls love SKZ one of them even took the guts to cover God's Menu which the choreography isn't easy to do.

girl I've been in stay side of social media since skz debut and all I've seen is support for vcha. If that's all you see then that means you engage with the posts of the little minority so you keep getting recommended it. Stan VCHA tho

Umm can I post it on TikTok I'll give credits💙

In the long run they will have to sing japanese and korean there's no getting around it, the fans are very misguided if they sing in English only then those fans will get angry but if they sing japanese and korean then those fans will get angry cannot satisfy anybody my advice to VCHA sing in japanese and korean in the future VLIGHT forever ❤❤❤

What on earth is this? How is that even a reason to hate? I've never heard of it for good even tho I'm a Stay & pretty active

Absolutely delusional. I am always on twitter and never seen this.😂

as a stay it’s not that I hate vcha like I have never publicly announced it “I HATE VCHA” no I haven’t I have seen not only stays but multiple fandoms doing stuff like this, but I don’t really like vcha but I don’t go on their videos or smth and leave hate comments the only reason I dont like them is they’re recent songs they just weren’t my cup of tea 😭😭

im just saying that not all stay are toxic it just some toxic stay ( btw i loved your mic )

Zero proof of this supposed stay hate is also insane. clearly the video is made with different intentions...

I didn't even know stays were hating on Vcha.. I haven't seen a stay hating Vcha? For the stays that ARE hating on Vcha, Felix debuted in a KOREAN GROUP, Vcha debuted as an AMERICAN GROUP, do they not understand?? Felix HAD to learn Korean for a reason to be apart of the group.. 😭???

Sorry Im late but yes I agree aiSorry Im late I saw a video saying thats it was unfair and said no hate but it was clearly hate towards Vcha

Bro VCHA isn’t a K-pop group guys why hating them for that💀💀💀 This is a girl group like One direction they just trained under K-pop training 💀 so stop that omg😭

I am a big stay don't really know abt this

I'm a stay, and I haven't' heard anything about this? tf?

Girl wtf I never seen any hate tho most of them was so supportive idk what have you seen on your side but treat me almost 90 percent are supportive some of the girls in vcha are literally stays why would others hate them lol

how many stays are actually hating on them tho?? bc i know i've seen a couple jokes about this, but no actual angry stays

But they did have to learn Korean..if we look at the evidence A2K and the BTS videos of the TWICE tour, they have to speak korean

No cus I'm glad someone finally mentioned it. Stays are the most self-centered fandom I've ever seen (and I'm saying this as a stay myself). Like, this was *never* about Felix, but somehow, they managed to bring him into this. Plus, it's not like Felix even said or acted like he was upset about Vcha debuting without being fluent in Korean, and if he did, he would be in the wrong, because him and Vcha had different standards to meet in order to debut.

This comment is not subjected to any hate so b4 someone attacks me for "defending" stays tone it down and actually read my comment. I have not seen not one video of a stay bashing Vcha. Most of these "hateful" video's comparing felix's situation to Vcha are most likey satire. I've seen a few of those video's and in every single video it's ben stated either IN the video or the CAPTION that it's purely a joke. Notice how the creator didn't even bother to put screenshots or examples of these "hateful" videos/comments "stays" are making towards Vcha. I personally really like Vcha so don't label me as a "hater". Maybe there might be a stay hating on Vcha but to say that it's a massive hate train targeted from stays is stretching it way too far. No offense to the video creator take it however you want but this comment was not made for the sole purpose of hating on the creator or to "defend" stays.

huh? I'm a stay and A HUGE JYP FAN thanks to skz and that was the reason I watched a2k in the first place. I watched every single a2k episodes and have been stanning Vcha from the day they were formed. why do you have to blame the stays like that?

i think you guys are really starting to generalise fandoms at this point because i’ve literally never heard of this, seeing 6 people yap about something on a twitter isn’t a hate train idk man 😭

vcha has haters? like of course there are salty people. but people hate them fr?? and they shouldnt call it kpop if its not korean imo.

VCHA has been getting so much unnecessary hate from not just stays but toxic kpop fans in general. They're extremely talented but they're a new type of group so everyone hates anything new unfortunately

Are they a new group? Never heard of them (Actually true)

I think youre making stuff up to start drama bc it wasn't stays hating on vcha

Please pin this "Protecting STRAYKIDS is the only thing you should do. Downgrading others is not something that u should do. Remember, when u downgrade others, u are also putting down our group (STRAYKIDS) and our fandom (STAY) as well. So, protecting STRAYKIDS is good, downgrading others is not good " -Bang Chan ( chan's room)

stays r always hating on sumthing tbh