What's Up With Error Correcting Memory on AM5 in 2024?

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Level1Techs

Level1Techs

17 күн бұрын

Wendell lays out everything that's going on with ECC on AM5 as of June 2024!
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@Level1Techs
@Level1Techs 14 күн бұрын
SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE: gigabyte aorus elite ax working now with f30 bios, see wendells tweet. Go team!!
@abavariannormiepleb9470
@abavariannormiepleb9470 14 күн бұрын
I hope that complete ECC memory support will someday become a standard feature everywhere.
@_emh
@_emh 14 күн бұрын
Registered ECC should be the standard for all computing today. The fact that JEDEC member companies still view security and data integrity as premium features for only certain classes of consumers is a total ethical failure.
@andljoy
@andljoy 14 күн бұрын
Why in 2024 is all memory not ECC? I mean its not that much extra cost to have un buffered ECC.
@FrenziedManbeast
@FrenziedManbeast 14 күн бұрын
I love that all of these combinations are possible in 2024. However the reality of the ECC UDIMM market is that any savings you make, you pay for in ridiculous sticker shock and compromised halfway features like only half your DIMM slots populated, etc. I went with a used Milan CPU and a new RomeD8-2T mobo last year, and I'm still pretty tickled with it. I got 256GB of 3200 DDR4 RDIMMs for $381. I can barely get 64GB of DDR5 ECC UDIMMS for that price...
@LackofFaithify
@LackofFaithify 14 күн бұрын
You may be the first to directly say: these are renamed ryzens. While it seems a bit obvious, it has been surprising how many either just ignore that or tip toe their way around the issue. See tech tech potato, geerling, etc... Also, the low end epyc 8004, though a bit of a pain to get a hold of, isn't a massive amount more than a ryzen/epyc 4004 setup, except it has all the pcie lanes and other server must haves you could want. Also lower power depending on the chip.
@binaryguru
@binaryguru 12 сағат бұрын
I will not be buying another PC without ECC. It's too risky with the amount of RAM these days. Memory corruption is very real and the more RAM you have the higher chance for a bit flip to happen.
@gustersongusterson4120
@gustersongusterson4120 14 күн бұрын
So in short ECC on a Ryzen platform is still hit or miss. Disappointing
@espi742
@espi742 2 сағат бұрын
DDR5 should have enforced full end-to-end ECC and 1 DIMM per channel. JEDEC seems to think consumers don't care about the integrity of their data and stability of their machines.
@kettusnuhveli341
@kettusnuhveli341 14 күн бұрын
Us consumers will forever be second class citizens to hyperscalers and the like…
@cuteraptor42
@cuteraptor42 Күн бұрын
Is a memtest86 enough to tell you if ECC work? I've tried this and it's showing as enabled and my system shows 72bits too with dmidecode
@NickAmes0
@NickAmes0 14 күн бұрын
Slight error at
@abavariannormiepleb9470
@abavariannormiepleb9470 14 күн бұрын
13:10
@NetBandit70
@NetBandit70 14 күн бұрын
Memory on AM5 is such a pain in the ass.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 14 күн бұрын
15:01
@jja2000
@jja2000 14 күн бұрын
I got the X570D4i second hand some years ago, while the firmware and bmc are kinda buggy, I've never had better customer support for something I don't even have the receipt for. They've walked me through testing my ECC SODIMMs (even sending them to Taiwan for me) and talking to kingston to add a note that some specific model didn't work on Zen 2. I highly recommend them! Only sad thing is that the APU models (useful for lower power consumption) need to be the PRO version, otherwise the Unregistered DIMMs don't work...
@shanent5793
@shanent5793 Күн бұрын
One other shortcoming of on-die ECC is that it is only single-error correcting (SEC) and not dual-error detecting (not DED).
@MrMarshmallowable
@MrMarshmallowable 14 күн бұрын
love the classic OD Green motherboards! Glad to hear about AM5 and ECC. I'm still rocking DDR3 ECC on my old 4th gen Intel fileserver
@sp00k1es
@sp00k1es 14 күн бұрын
Thank you! I've been trying to figure this stuff out, and it had all been such scattered info I had given up.
@fimbulvntr
@fimbulvntr 14 күн бұрын
> Yes, you can get 64 gig DIMMs
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