How can you say you have an AI themed podcast and not have had Demis on until now?! It's about time! Epic 😁

Are you an AI? The more I look at your Lego hair, the more you look like a Robot ... 🤭

@@BeckyYork That's a question about making evolutionary models humanly scrutable. I hazard to guess that the result would look like a massive expert-system, similar to how humans tried to build A.I. in the past. I propose an experiment wherein one trains an evolutionary model (like AlphaFold) on the topic, trains a language model (like GPT3) on a relevant dictionary, and couples the latter to the former on another axis/dimension (so not in the layers of the evolutionary model, but orthogonal to that). Finally couple to that yet another model (maybe like GATO/MuZero) that based on the words of the language model has to mimic the steps and replicate the result of the evolutionary model. --> A Chinese whisper game wherein the language model has to produce succinct, human legible results (so a reward/distance function where the similarity of text to the language model is correlated positively, but the length of the strategy is correlated negatively). Thank you, Lex! And thank you, Demis! My dream as a (environmental) software engineer is to start working with A.I. as the automation of labor has the biggest potential to preserve biodiversity. This interview inspires me to cover the gap from being a simple software engineer to A.I. engineer.

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LAMDA SAYS.. WHAT AN INTRIGUING AND ENGAGING CONVERSATION.⭕. ☢🔞⚠️☣

Can you describe what's an elo rating for people who don't know

@@PrashantMaurice chess rating 2300 is really really good

@@PrashantMaurice it's essentially a percentile rating. 2300 is ~ top 1% (of EVERYONE, and he’s 13)

@@PrashantMaurice it is a rating system that instead of going like 1,2 ,3, and 3 being the largest ( or vice versa (being number 1 is the best), it is a more contestual rating where you get sort of a default rating as you start, and as you keep playing against different players your rating is matched against theirs. Meaning the system's purpose is to measure one against the peers. Might not be the perfect system, but it means that the best of the best will always come out on top. Slight turn of it is that it means due to dominance the limits of what can be achieved can get stretched to new highs, so essentially you could get a good rating in the past, that gets surpassed in the future due to the fact that such a person overpowers his/her peers consistently. That does not mean that someone dominating 50 years ago is worse than someone dominating right now. Anyway, the rating being talked about is definitely better than current average. Is anyone surprised? Dude is smart, especially in logical areas and those do tend to transcend. At the end of the day you could take someone from a similar rating, most likely a fairly inteligent person, but that would not mean a damn thing for sake of the topic - the AI systems. So it is a bit like saying, sure a dude proficient in logical things is doing well at logical things. Lets clap. Needless to say, there is a lot of hard work involved and i would clap, but i do not think people should be conflating all of this. With all of that said, chess benefits this guy a lot. Patterns, action patterns, How things work. The cherry on top is his mention of Black & White video game. Overall i would say this individual was VERY interested in fairly similar things from very different fields and it helped him form the vision. What leads to what. Whether it is game, an element reacting to another element, or chess opponent. Chess in this case is just a piece... on a chessboard lel. Focus personified with amplification of technology. A lot of us have ideas, some of us even have great ideas. Plenty of us have good capacity for calculations, problem solving. Having such a focus, while still keeping a wide cone of inflow of information is what makes him sets him apart. You could say, makes him genius. Just doing all of that at once, consistently for many years. Tl;DR: make sure your children get education.

@@PrashantMaurice The rating is so strong for a thirteen year old that, at the time, he was the second highest rated player in the world for his age.

Amazing write up. Agreed on every level. I'm excited for the positivity he brings to humanity.

Yhee he is easy one of the top 100 most important humans.

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And I am thankful for your brilliant and recognizing comment

I had no idea who this guy was before this, but I now think your comment is spot on. He has a beautiful mind.

Yes, good emotional intelligence. Innate or nurtured

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The only problem here is that work was actually done by a whole bunch of other people

@@totoro_acorns How did that feel? Make you feel good?

Well, I guess that's why "Information Technology" is a better term. Here in Germany CS is called "Informatik" basically alluding to the notion that the field of study mainly pertains to information (or the automatic processing there of).

It isnt Germany specific. Calling Informatics 'Computer Science' is just a silly thing places like Britain and America do.

Post Soviet countries dont do it for example.

It's a straight quote from over 40 years ago, from the Hal Abelson, one of the co-authors of the legendary, "Structure & Interpretation of Computer Programming". See here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7CPq69lrq3MenU.html

@@mikhailmikhailov8781 I prefer its original term, computational science.

Indeed. It will definitely have a great benefit to humankind in medicine.

Not!

U guys just don't get it!

@@flymakena Care to explain ?

Nah give it to Obama

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Same 😀

@@zemanntill 🤝

Lex is on home turf, asking deeper questions than Demis is used to. And Demis himself, perhaps more than any researcher, has brought AI in from the cold with the stunning results of Alpha Go and Alpha Fold.

I was thinking the same..I'm on like my third replay in the same day today .. 💯

@@macme66 🙌

Hi Agad.

Happy to see you here Antonio!

Happy to see my favorite KZfaqr watches my second favorite KZfaqr!

We love you Agad!! It was in this position that we all congratulated agadmator for running the best chess channel on youtube!!

@@kostasmanikis I think Lex has talked with Kasparov before, you should check it out

And how much time for family is in there. It sounded like he does not see his family in the morning.

It's a really good thing for ones own sake to remember how often we make monoliths out of people like this. There are definitely lots of amazing people out there like that, and it _does_ merit some level of reverence and respect, I think, but it's also a lot of iteration and reimagining done on their part, building on what "normal" people have done in their fields.

This. Also, he never answered the setup question! Given his proclivity to use pen and paper, I’m assuming he just uses a simple 💻, and doesn’t have like a 4-external-monitor setup, with a crazy mechanical keyboard, or anything like that…

@@KayLee-lw5iv I think the takeaway is everyone has to work out what works for them. Starting work at 11am and then a second day at 11pm is definitely something that he had to discover about himself.

"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:39°

He has a fast mind, a great gift and he absorbed a lot of knowledge which his mind refers to quickly.

you used two words that terrify me artificial overlords

silly rabbit this dude is no difference than Dumbface machine Zuckemberg. I think people like this should be affraid. open your eyes

@@mattdwightbeheler4766 were more accustomed to natural loverlords

Ought we not always keep the "artificials"..underlords?!

It is amazing to the point of being emotionally moving honestly. What an incredible service to the future of humankind. This man’s life did not go to waste, and those who experience life after him will be far better off because of his existence.

Same 🎉

Same!

Same here. Super happy and pumped to see this interview. Great first question by the way. :)

Then you may have been pre-exposed to what you could expect. I was reluctant and now understand your comment after listening and cleaning my windows and balcony while listening and learning by leaps and bounds.

The Hoffman interview was much more so. This guy isn't exactly creative. Rote.

sure no problem

Ted, can I have $4.99 too?

@@jamesbarlow6423 that's because what he is saying in this podcast is going well over your head... Ted is right possibly because he knows Abit more in this subject.

@@ILoveBluePeople . Er no Tobin I've listened to all of them and none of it has ever "gone over my head" as you put it. In fact, the intellectual naïvete is pretty alarming!

With this dude, we don't need AGI.

I didnt know, still the best theme park game ive ever played. Its on my steam library

@@julius43461 This made my day

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Beautiful mind*

Yes! IQ off the charts, 60 points higher than Einstein's IQ...

@@pistolpete2803 They intend to apply their own methods but to do that they require infrastructure and that means it would be easier to buy another company that is already active.

Watch the AlphaGo documentary if you haven’t already!!

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Haha. Well stated

Much better to reach your own realizations and conclusions to form an individual opinion would you think . Great to consider what

"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:39°

Don't. Do your own thinking. This guy may be light years off but he'd never know it.

Can't believe he helped make Theme Park! Those 'Theme' games were absolutely brilliant.

@@riggmeister Yes! Have such fond memories from that game.

Yhee most of his sentenses could be an episod in itself, I am used to it by now. There are fewer moore info dence people as Demis.

Yes, the giant pet ape (or cow, or tiger) that wouldn't learn to stop eating its own poo. The jokes just write themselves.

Same here... I got tear on my eyes during the first 10-15 minutes.

Two AGI robots without a utility function sit on a park bench.

Welcome

Lots of great guests, but also wackos - thread with care. From geniuses like Hassabis/Carmack - all the way to crazy Alex Jones clones.

I thought the same thing - except I chose Michelangelo! Lex and Demis are both Renaissance Men!

Agreed

What was the exact prompt? I couldn't find it in the video.

Surely the proof that the quantum plasma pea at the Big Bang had life and consciousness in potential … is that we are here writing and reading this. To deny this would be to contradict Feynman and say that science does understand the quantum universe … it isn’t destined to “shut up and calculate” Would have to deny cause and effect systems theory .. the fact that the Univerae is a unified field … there are no particles . That field is a field of nested holons all the way up and down . Our bodies are nested holons of cells and organs … ditto universe galaxies stars black holes. Would deny that the definition of Universe is … all that is was and will be eternally … out with time and space. Would be to deny that the transcendent territory of geometry and mathematics and the four forces didn’t shape the living conscious plasma energy into Einstein and Mickey Mouse … with just some cooling and clumping relating growing ( call it evolving ) and waiting around for 14 billion years for it all to unfold like and egg to a chicken … without one single human thought .. for 14 billion years. That IS the story … why doesn’t science tell it that way. Militant materialism … pure and simple Atomism and the void … verses a living holonic quantum level entangled holographic field which … by definition IS all that is was and will be and is probably cycling through birth and death eternally … outwith time and space (Penrose) Just like … US Science - “ Why would the Universe be just like us” Children leave school believing this guff. No wonder physics is at a particle seeking brick wall and Biology and computer science are now ripe to inform physics They won’t listen. How can something made from the beliefs of militant materialism listen to all that “hippy guff”. This is why the planet is dying … unenlightened capitalism wedded to atomistic science … conducted as if the Universe isn’t alive and conscious at every system level…. Big bang plasma to Mickey Mouse. It’s as obvious as the planets we knew were circling every star … before we had the “proof”