OK. I live on the prairies so we really don’t have any hills to speak of, think flat land for as far as you can see in every direction.

​@@InternetDude yeah "prairies" are not that often here in germany ... :-) lol

Absolutely! I traded my LS500 in for a 2022 ES300h Ultra Luxury in Canada. Love it, wonderful ride, quiet, smooth, etc.

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I now own a 2022 ES300h that I've had for 2 years. I never use the paddle shifters at all. I press the brake pedal slightly to get regen.

Thanks for the comment. I’m a fan of the hybrid system in the car it makes the car so quiet and fuel efficient. With that said, I’ve been driving my Town Car this week. I changed a few parts on it and I’m almost done all repairs it has needed.

The difference is very small in terms of comfort and ride quality. Truly. I think the ES is a much better value, it's like 80% of the LS car but at 50% of the price. I traded my 2018 LS500 in for a new 2022 ES300h. LOVE it, go for the ES hybrid. It's the better buy. The only thing I miss from the LS was the massaging seat. The ES hybrid powertrain is smoother albeit with less overall power. The ES hybrid is very quiet, it does not idle under most circumstances. You get the touchscreen, full warranty, app for your phone, etc. Many benefits to a new ES hybrid. I went for the top spec Ultra Luxury trim that has an extra damper on the suspension to give a smoother ride.

Yes, thanks for the comment.

Heh heh it was time to change my profile pic.

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Yep. For double the price, it should be.

If they made a PHEV of this, I would buy it instantly.

Hi I really don’t use the thigh extender. Loving the new ES, so quiet, smooth and efficient. And has extras that my LS500 didn’t have. I’m thinking about finally making a video on it 😉

Well.... I traded my LS500 for a brand new ES300h... they are both ridiculously quiet and comfy. I prefer the ES but I miss the massaging seat from the LS. In my personal opinion the LS is a great highway car but not as good around town (city driving). The ES is great around town and on the highway.

@@InternetDude isn't that a down grade?

@@barbecuetechtips6024 not really

Hi Rachel, what a coincidence... I don't know if you know but I drove Teslas for over 6 years. I am in the market for a new car and guess what I just ordered? Yup, a 2022 ES300h. I've driven the 3 too but let me tell you the build quality, support, features, value, longevity, ride, premium looks, etc the ES300h wins hands down. There is no comparison. To me the reason to buy a Tesla is for that 0-60 acceleration and to show how cool you are to your friends LOL. For everyday driving and road tripping, the ES is absolutely the better long term car. It rides wonderfully and gets amazing fuel economy for a luxury sedan. Also, for 2022 they have a touchscreen in the ES. I ordered the Ultimate Luxury package with Palamino interior, so I have heated and ventilated seats, auto levelling headlights, etc. Many more features with the ES than a Model 3. I had considered a number of cars before deciding including the 3, BMW, Genesis, and Lexus. If you have more questions on any of those cars let me know because I just went through this myself.

@@InternetDude OMG, I chose the 2022 ES300H for the same reasons, including over the BMW, Polestar and others. Solid track record, beautiful, comfortable and acceleration that is more than necessary for holding your own on NJ turnpike.

There is more difference inside for sure. LS interior is nicer overall. The front end is nearly identical 2020/2018

Yes. I traded my LS500 in for a new '22 ES300h hybrid, love it. The ride is really pretty comparable. In some situations the air suspension of the LS was a bit better, but for the majority of day to day driving they are almost identical in ride. I have the Ultra Luxury package.

I haven’t personally seen the S class but I’m going to say no. Lexus’ strong point is dependability, quality, and resale value. Mercedes tends to beat on luxury, features, tech, etc.

I’m beginning to think that also… 🤔

10 year warranty on the battery so not something I'd worry about.

@@InternetDude wow. That's impressive. Is it the same for all lexus/Toyota hybrids?

@@blackice7408 yes

@@blackice7408 p.s. I bought a new ES hybrid recently.

I’m not sure

I will be surprised if you don't. The ES is one of the more spacious midsize luxury sedan in its segment. If you wanted bigger, you have to go LWB S-class or just go get a full sized SUV.

Depends. Are you 6-2, or 7-2

@@luptonpittman6520 6.8

@@simonscowled9925 I would think so

EPA rating is 44 MPG US.

Ha ha I do feel kind of old for owning an LS and liking an ES... did you know I also have a Lincoln Town Car? LOL

@@InternetDude as NYer, I approve of the Lincoln Town, just for being a RWD car 😉.

Avalon is going away next year. It’s gotten too close to the ES that Toyota decided to concentrate on the ES. The ES is available worldwide like the Camry but the Avalon is only found in select markets like US/Canada/China. Plus the low sedan sales in the US don’t justify the need for that many sedan models.

Thanks for the warning 😉

I’ve seen lots of earlier es300hs with over 250k, a lot of people use them for ridesharing/delivery services. Not sure why you think they have problems

Are you sure you're not talking about Mercedes?

I disagree. Sitting in one is night and day difference.

@@barbecuetechtips6024 I genuinely feel like tech ruined the interior, they used to engineer visibility, button placement and wrap everything in leather. They used thick carpets and lot's of insulation. I took a ride in a new LS500 and was greatly put off by the lack of everything. They cheapened it all out. I think the seats shrunk too. They're too short..

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 Here's a test. Go look at a ls460 and compare it to the ls500 or es 350. Not even close. Might as well go back to the ls400 or 1980s Mercedes if you think that honestly.

@@barbecuetechtips6024 if I could find a low mileage 80s S class or LS400 I would scoop it up.

The LS430 was the absolute pinnacle of all the LS's. Lexus has lost their way with the LS500, tried too hard to compete with the Germans, bumpier ride, more tech (not in a good way either), laggy turbo engine, etc. I hope they make the LS better with the next generation but I don't think that will happen.