I think that too tbh, if I had 70k saved up, I'd say fuck it and save a while longer or take out a small loan to step up to the LC. The carbon kit will date the car going down the line, and the LC is just sex to the eyes and ears.

It’s definitely more capable on a track than the LC500! - Lexus Fr if you wanted to track something you surely wouldn’t go for this

And if you really wanted to track you wouldn't get a lexus when there's at least ten other cars same price range that would destroy it.

@@stingerredshock3418 definitely true

They're not in the same category. Depends if you want a GT or a track car. Anyways for 105k I'm getting a new Lotus Emira v6.

Score bro! Was it CPO? I've had my RCF for years and daily drive it. Enjoy...

Damn, lucky! I bought my RCF when it just came out back in 2015. Yeah, it's paid off, but man i would've loved a 10th anniversary edition. 😣

@@Sarcastic_Asmodeus not me watching you rich aholes talk 😔

@@randysiggers5332yep was CPO

Kudos! same came from a Prior M car and was about to get a M4GTS but test drove and fell lin love with the RCF Fuji Edition...just a platform you fall in love with cannot wait to take it to the track!!

There's a brand new GX on the way too.

@@koichi.k1161 I'm not super thrilled about the turbo hybrid v6 though. I have to think Toyota's excellent 5 liter would be able to be retuned for a truck application.

You just love V8s my friend. But you probably knew that

@@revaholic guilty! I like 6 cylinders more, but a big vehicle needs a v8 or the poor engine will be overworked for no advantages in fuel efficiency.

​@@Arkeo36 you like six cylinders more? Get an IS350 then 😂

People start missing things when they are gone

That was a very well balanced car.

Same! The GS-F and IS-F was and still is their best versions.

@@v8_sami still can buy a used one

The good news is with Lexus reliability you can just go buy an old one. Not much goes wrong with these V8's. Reminds me of the somewhat boring but bulletproof M113 V8's in early 2000s Mercedes

or you could get is500 and Supra for the same money

@@floggyWM1 Or just get a LS swapped Miata cup car invest the rest in real estate. That list goes on and on. No real end to that lol.

Could probably get a V8 custom swap for the GR at roughly the same price lmao

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I see you goat 😅

Henlo Zack Pradel, welcome to the fun

They know this, these types of cars aren’t necessarily to make money but act as a “halo” product for other vehicles in the lineup. Could also say the LFA is another example

​@@worldofz00the LFA had an awesome chassis and engine, the trans was not even an afterthought. Debuting such an awesome car with a dated trans when dual clutches were dominating the market. Toyota/lexus make awesome engines but it's like the thinking stops there. They never have the trans to back up there product ( with exception to the 95 mr2 and supra turbo). If the RCF had a ZF trans that would solve a shit ton right there.

Hell yeah! Im between a c6 corvette or a first gen rcf as my first high performance car

What factory stereos have you heard?

@@drhassan6892 just about every single Volvo/Bmw Bowers & Wilkins, Audi Bang & Olufsen, and Mercedes Burmester. I will say the Mark Levinson in the LC500 just might be better than the one in the RCF, just recently heard that in person.

Scotty Kilmer will personally disembowel every member of your family if you speak ill of a Toyota product, it's chilling how he signs off every video with such a dire warning.

You were going to comment how you feel and then you thought about what scary people on the internet would think if they saw it? Good call man! Imagine how scary and permanently emotionally scarring it would have been to flip through the replies that say scary things like "i disagree with you" and "my peepee is bigger than yours"

I drove Las Vegas Speedway outside roadcourse at speed with Roberto as my instructor. Cool to drive with an Indy pole setter.

Yep. Lexus ISF already out of production

“Glad” it exists hu? Why?

@@yamabushi_nate7825 see above.

@@domteewhy52 It’s just the same exact car but left over from the ones they didn’t sell so put carbon on it and sound tubes. Charge $40k more. That’s it. Lol

@@yamabushi_nate7825 sounds like my car. Maybe that’s why it excites me so much. I don’t use price as a reference.

I remember when the LFA just came out and how many people on the internet hated it. Same with the GSF and ISF. Guess what? Now that the cars aren't made, people lust for them. Car enthusiasts are weird.

It doesn't do anything better than it's competition aside from comfort, and to that point if I'm buying a "track edition" then comfort isn't on my check list. Car is a dud

Lc500 is a better deal for the money

@@guycha0s380 Agree. This is really for another customer, say an M4 customer who wanted the Lexus reliability, etc. and the extra features (ex. CF brakes).

As much as I like the look and the engine... unfortunately the driving experience, the most important aspect, doesn't sound like it matches the price at all. Especially for something approaching six figures. I'd rather get the standard car and mod it and probably save 10-20k.

@@dillonhughes1417 keep the hate, I find these comments hilarious , U just do t know what a special car is lolll I doesn’t have to do anything better lolllll

Exactly what I was thinking. Its no ordinary car after all.

Ah yes, pay for a titanium exhaust and then replace it

@@zenkoz3158 pretty sure they just meant it needs headers which are the biggest gains on F cars and make the sound much better.

@@valdaviper1 "full exhaust" doesn't really sound like just headers lol 🤷

They sound absolutely nasty with headers

I picked up a 23 IS500 last week. I looked at a LC500. I thought they were small. The interior space was not tight. Really nice cabin.

They do the hood is 10k 😂😂😂😂

@@jdmbren13💀

This car is in no way shape or form a Black Series competitor. Reliable and bulletproof is about it. Not fast or tunable compared to the Germans.

I went from an IS250 to an M3 Competition & every single person I know said “oh you’ll regret it those German brands are terrible!!” ..needless to say not a single issue to report, currently at 60k miles & been tuned since day 1. Haven’t even done ignition coils or spark plugs yet.

@@Enthusiastlist what are your oil filters intervals

@@Enthusiastlist 60k is not worth talking about that is low mileage in USA, come back when you hit 120k and report your issues

​@@MrMittenshasatophat there are F80s that have passed 100k easily. They're pretty reliable ws long as they're taken care of like any car.

@@MrMittenshasatophat plenty of examples closing on 150k. I can’t speak for every BMW engine but I’ve owned an S55 & B58. Both are very stout closed deck with forged internals & mechanical pump plus auxiliary pump for turbo(s) I haven’t owned a BMW V8 though & those seem to be the troublesome engines.

Well i think people that buy this car probably make enough where that price isn't really shocking jsut saying :)

Lexus is a strage company. All people want is an ISF. The is500 is such a letdown with a shitty trans, no coolers etc

Same, as I said above. I'd rather own an LC500. I think this car is destined to be a waste of money; it's not desirable. At least there are a fairly large group of people who desire LC500s, it's also a limited run car, there are a group of people who find the looks intoxicating, and it has a modern transmission. I don't know a single person who wants this trim(at a 30-40k premium) of the RCF.

Apparently it handles poorly for track car standards too

LFA is pushing boundaries. This is the exact opposite. The RC was Lexus's way to enter this segment with minimal investment. They cobbled together existing platforms (GS front, IS convertible mid-section, IS sedan rear) and existing parts. It was uncompetitive when it launched in 2015 (see Chris Harris comparison to F82 M4 years ago). I appreciate reliability but that shouldn't be the main reason to buy a performance car IMO.

Or perhaps I missed the sarcasm here 😅

@@The_Stanman lol I would like the imagine he was being sarcastic with the "pushing boundaries" because this vehicle absolutely does NOT do that... but the way he wrote the comment, I think he was serious, lmao

They’re already scheduled to go full EV 2030 and beyond so this is indeed the last gen. They do have an EV prototype that looks very cool though.

Pushing the boundaries of scamming your customers?

Would be if it weren’t for the price holly jumpin!! Competition at 70-100 gs yeah I’m getting something else.

THAT'S what luxury means to me. Something like a Rolex. I don't understand spending a ton on something that only lasts a few years.

You can literally make this same argument for any car with a higher spec than its base model equivalent lol. Thing is, most of them aren't over $100k lol

@@JacesOwnWorld I don't think there are any Mercedes anymore that will be passed down to grandchildren lol

That's called a RAV4. Same platform. What we NEED is a Camry Prime.

I doubt this will become that collectible. It's not much different than the RC-F, it doesn't do anything better than its competition. It's not even more engaging, other than engine sound, which you can get in a much cheaper Mustang GT. Cars that become collectibles always have something special about them, even if they're objectively worse in performance. If this had a proper manual, it would stand a better chance, IMO. In fact, the transmission is going to be a hurdle for collectible status. The price will probably have a floor, but you likely won't see them fetching a premium...ever.

@@KamikazeSOF2 It's a V8. The last of Japanese V8. That's why. What makes the LFA special when there's so many V10s in the streets? I know it's not the sound, it's the rarity of the model.

@@brianm5753 The LFA is almost unrivaled in its sound. It's widely regarded as probably the top two in the sound department, along with the Carrera GT. It was also a very exclusive vehicle. The RC-F doesn't have any of that going for it. It sounds great, but it's really close to the Coyote, a car that is much cheaper. It being Japanese only makes a difference to a very tiny minority, and not enough to make it collectible, IMO. The track edition of the RC-F isn't that much different, as I said before.

This is the goal right here.

the LCs transmission is slower and worse from a performance perspective FYI. It only sounds and gives the emotion and character in my view. If it had the LCs Transmission it would actually overheat since the LC has no trans cooler. They dont have that 10 speed in a setup thats comparable to robust nature of the 8 Speed Asin of of yet. One of the many reasons the LC is not a F car. LC is a great car it's just a different tool designed for a different purpose and there's a reason it doesn't have a F on it in its current config. That is all.

These LC comparisons are ridiculous...The only thing in common is the price point. It's unfortunate not many drivers will be able to experience a Fuji/TE and it's full potential. But you and I know the real deal... @@RandenMontalvo

@@kwikfilmsTV Agreed its an odd thing. But it mostly comes from folks that dont know these cars or have not driven them and just going by ambiance or impressions. In reality you throw that 10SPD in a RCF and it would not only be slower than a on temp Aisin it would overheat doing heavy track duty in its highest setting. If i were to state an upgrade for the F cars which are actually designed for duel purpose use, unlike a LC...it would be a new DCT/ZF that would be an upgrade to the Aisin. Both are great cars but have different purposes and should be celebrated for what their lanes are because of their damn good at their intent. Folks dont know but this is still relatively early with Lexus with full F cars. Only less than an handful of cars have earned that designation and with time it will grow. I think we have at least 1 more generation of possibly new F cars with ICE engines or hybrid-assisted engines before we sadly venture into electric performance cars. I love Lexus for what they did with the TEs/Fujis ..truly a treat that even me as a M car lover had to experience and glad to say....totally get it now and just love the car. Its in my view how it should've came originally but thats just me ( I personally was not a fan of the heavier TVD iterations coming from M Diffs this combo was perfect with weight balance, aero and stopping power ). Like yourself its just a car you have to drive for a long session to be like...wow this is a damn good car. Found myself saying that more than test driving M4GTS and a Gen 1 R8 to my utter shock and thats when i had to cut the check. Its an underrated great machine that puts a huge smile on your face.

Toyota made a proper sportscar once in its entire existence (LFA)

What they be saying?

@@interviewtime1170 that it's sluggish

I didn't clarify in the vid enough, but other cars feel more tactile, have more sense of occasion (even Lexus has the LC which is more exciting on track), or are more practical and usable at the same price or lower. The regular RC-F is 98% of this car for significantly cheaper, but it's just not suited for this role (track) between how disconnected it feels and how slow and disruptive the trans is. My personal pick for this price would be a ZL1 1LE and a hefty insurance policy, or an M3/M4 comp and a stack of paper bags, but I find even the GR86 more fun to be honest, if not as special.

If you are looking at an impractical coupe - just go buy a Supra and be done with it.

@MisterSkizzels I hear ya', but nah. I'll wait and hope against hope that in 2024 or 2025 Lexus will do just what I described.

Next gen (if it goes on sale) will probably come with a TTV6. We’ll see what the GT3 version powerplant is and if Lexus will offer a street version.

These Aisin trans shift quick and will last forever. Doesn't need a ZF in the slightest

@@nickadkins7765 Last forever yes Shift quick no. Compared to its German cousin the supra, supra will beat the "best" RCF out the water

@@Careover it is a quick shifting trans. Is it Porsche PDK fast? Absolutely not, but it is quick. When I had my ISF I was very impressed with the trans. Stock for stock a Supra would win. A stock Supra is not beating a FBO RCF. Idk if that's what you meant by "best" RCF was a FBO one, or just referring to the stock Fuji edition in particular?

@@nickadkins7765 The price to performance for this model is not worth it. The issue is that mechanically speaking, the Track Edition has the same reliable 8 speed as the ISF, GSF, regular RCF and new IS500. The only difference is the software tuning, so this track edition and its differential setup should be the fastest in a straight line, but its still mechanically slow. Remember when the ISF was called the "M3 Killer" back in 2008? fast forward to now and its slow

@@Careover I'm not defending the price. It's purely a collector car in my eyes. I know the ZF is faster shifting, but 1/10th of a second for the Aisin is fast and I will die on that hill. Like I said I owned an ISF and I still consider it fast to this day. Fastest? No. But fast nonetheless.

While the Guilia quadrifoglio is way cooler, this Lexus is miles more reliable.

It's not Germany and infamous for being the next most unreliable car brand in the world right after FIAT (same company)

Because you can’t in good faith recommend it to someone because of how much they break down

With Alfa Romeo's not so stellar reliability history in America, people have a right not to include it. Lexus has earned its right to be America's darling with its superb reliability and quality.

Hopefully we can get a proper SG technical review once the refresh Quadrifoglio comes out.

100%. You see so many battleship grey cars now, and I think it's a boring color. The flat black wheels look like some teenager bought a few cans of PlastiKote or hot rod primer black and went to town. A set of CF rims would look amazing and lose some unsprung weight.

@@dougrobinson8602 I need to get two RCs. An F in red, and probably black 350. I want the V6 and chrome trim too. There's a 350 in my area in black with factory-crhomed wheels and it is so damn sexy.