Everyone mentions the lack of range on this car and I get it. When I heard Lexus first came out with an electric car; I was very interested until I found out the range was only 196 miles. At that time I dismissed it. Several months later a friend of mine and I went to test drive one. We were both very impressed. The sales person told us about the Lexus Reserve program that will give the purchaser a free loaner car for 3 years (up to 30 days). To me this was a "game changer". I ended up buying the car and LOVE it. After installing a level 2 charger at my residence, I only end up charging maybe once a week. For my driving needs, the car is perfect. For long trips, gas/hybrid cars are still the "way to go" until they come out with solid state batteries. If you drive around town most of the time, I don't think you will regret buying this car.

Great video mate

Good review, especially in relation to your points about range.

Toyota has some serious discrepancies between their claimed range and their actual range.

Your content, videos, mid week 180 and pod casts are brilliant. I don't know why you haven't got a lot more subscribers. Maybe you have a much more exclusive club ! The motorhome one was a great insite

If this were predominantly a ‘second’ car, the range is just about acceptable. But for the price, it would have to be the family’s principal mode of transport. The range kills it. I’m a Lexus owner and I so wanted this car to be amazing. In so many ways it is. But that range…. 😢

Because the range is low, and there's no place to go here, this one is right up our streets...in Hawai'i. By the time one sorts out the screens, one would already have arrived at one's destination...which is a huge tailback/traffic jam. I like the looks of the upholstery very, very much! No vinyl or leather lasts long here; the cloth in your tester is the way to go. A nice car in which to relax and spend time.

Good reviews thank you

Another great video, Ped. You are excellent at telling the "minuses" without upsetting the press office ... Like everyone else, I'm very disappointed by Toyota Group's position on EVs; it looks like they are trying to tell us that petrol hybrids are the best solution and propose "CAFE Compliance" vehicles on the range without really believing that people will buy them. I'm starting to think that the relevant channels (you, Transport Evolved, Carwow, Electrifying, Fully Charged) should use 3 performance indexes and emblazon each video with them: one is Miles/KWh (Km/KWh), two is a "real world range", three is a "value index" taking into account the MSRP/RRP of the car. Because until you mentioned the price, all was going well ... in fact, your one is level 3 out of 4, and it's the first one offering an electric tailback. At 69 grand! Note that, for example, there is no mention on the website of the air conditioning technology, but the Toyota offers a heat pump from the basic level ... 46k£. The other thing is that developing a car and systems is expensive, but the software on that screen reminds me a lot of the one in the 2022 Toyota CH-R I had as a courtesy car. I expect something exclusive at that price -- not a reconditioned Toyota Corolla dashboard. Like you, I would be disappointed that there aren't gaz lifters for the froot. On a size note: I'm not as tall as you. However, I tried to enter a BZ4X in which the seats and steering wheel don't retract automatically: because the floor is higher than expected, and the previous visitor had left the seat in a "smaller adult" position, my legs were stuck under the steering wheel, making my exit rather ungracious!

Hi Ped, great unbiased review as always, but seriously £69k and an abysmal range, who is going to buy this car new? SH they will struggle also I feel. Shame, because as you say it is a nice environment.☹️

I'm not sure you quoted the miles/kWh figure for this 71kW battery? As well as temp, I would also add speed and topography - we have found that these three elements really matter on longer runs. Our Zoe on a motorway run of 180 miles (238m summer range) at 60/65mph will easily handle our destination (30% remaining), but on the return journey, there are steeper and longer inclines, reducing the range and inducing the associated anxiety - we then travel max speed of 62mph until the range indicator settles down on the flatter sections , before picking up the speed with often 7% charge remaining. When it is colder, we need a return journey charge, limited by availability of charge stations. Incidently, we also need to maximise charge levels to 100% to do this, or a 3hr journey with destination charging becomes a 3hr 30min trip with a quick 20min recharge on route. You can't get that time back... Lexus price per usability is poor here.

Good review, and I too was disappointed by the range, and also the charging speed, which in real life is nowhere near the 150kW, the charging curve is really quite bad as well, so while it goes easy on the batteries, giving that 10 year 90% guarantee, it makes for much longer charging times. The best option Lexus do at the moment are the plug in 450h+ models, either the RX or NX if you don’t need the bigger size. Gives you that 30-40ish miles full EV mode for those “runaround” journeys, then the petrol engine to back it up on longer trips.

One of best cars you have featured on your channel even if it is electric 😂😂😂xx Lexus make great everyday cars xxx

Did you reset the computer (GOM guess-o-meter) when you finished charging? That would give you a more “accurate “ range..

Thanks for the video 👍🏻 I went for a BMW iX over this, simply preferred the interior, infotainment and more space.

Looks very nice

One road test found that on the mechanically similar Toyota bZ4X, the charge curve dropped off very sharply quite early on. But I'm uncertain if this was a pre-production model and if the issue has since been resolved.

Nice car but I agree with you. Range If I had that budget, I’d be looking for more range. Great review as always.

Interesting review! Thanks 👍. I have a BMW iX40 electric car with a 71.5 kwh battery, which looks to be a bigger vehicle. I just did a round trip to south London from Chester (250miles each way) over the august bank holiday weekend (yes, I know I must have been crazy, but it was to attend a function as I would never normally dream of this journey over a bank holiday). The weather on leaving was 17 degrees and cloudy plus rain on and off. It was warmer in London though). The car indicated 264 miles at 100% on leaving and I planned a stop a Banbury instavolt as it was over halfway, and I would need lunch and toilets by then anyway. I got to Banbury and around half of the 32 chargers were in use, but I got a 150kw charger no problem and at 140 miles in I was still at 50%. I had a sandwich and a coffee at the Costa (and a pee 😮) and got back to the car after 25 mins or so to find it at 98%. I drove to london 8 hours of traffic horror) parked up and drove home the next day stopping at Banbury again (loads of chargers available, repeated the previous days costa experience). The car was at 20% getting to Banbury again and my 25 minute stop showed 82% so I got home without further charge. The whole trip was as fast (if not faster) than my diesel X5 used to do, because instead of queuing for a pump and behind a checkout line, I plugged in and left the car. The drive home was 10 hours, I was cruising at 65 (when I could) and I defy anyone to sit 10 hours without needing a leg stretch and toilet break. The car did 3.7 mpkwh on the way down and 3.5 on the way back in comfort mode (not economy) with climate set at 19.5 the whole time. Lexus need to up their efficiency as if they could replicate the experience I just had with the iX40, it would be a consideration!

Good review. Too much money for too little range. It doesn't matter how "nice" , or luxurious it is.

You should come for a ride with me some day... and see how I drive - both when pushing and when taking it easy - WLPT is achievable and exceedable in every single car I've ever had....

If I may when you were playing g with the driving g miles what was your average miles per kwh?

Having driven a lot of EV’s and owned them, for me personally 300 mile (real world) is the minimum you need in order for the car not to be an inconvenience. Now for the most part you don’t need a lot of range for day to day but for those trips a few times a month, if I’m spending £40k+ on an EV I don’t want to be inconvenienced. The Tesla and the supercharger network works so well With real world range and performance it’s ruined my ability to enjoy other EVs currently. Still waiting for improvements in 3rd party charging in the UK so more people can benefit from having an EV should they want one (or be forced to have one at this rate)

A few things for me. I am inclined these days to ignore range to a certain degree, and look for the highest rapid charging level (without cold or rapid gating, of course). It’s not a case of a bigger battery pack but greater efficiency that gets my attention. With battery minerals the way they are (and likely to be in the foreseeable future) its up to battery and car manufacturers to find the break through. That is, stop putting such large packs in vehicles, but instead wringing the most efficiency out of whats is available. I’d gladly drive on less than 200miles per charge whilst on a longer range trip if I know I could rely on a charging point that gave me at least 80-90% charge in 15-12 minutes. A break every 160 miles is pretty well what is recommended anyway.

The rear seating position looked horrendous. The floor must be high in the back. Range is mediocre at best and undoubtedly compromised in colder weather. As always, fantastic content 👍

The range indicated when you showed the modes is correct. 74 Kw battery and about 3 miles per Kw.

Why do you need sport mode for normal driving??

What would be the weight penalty if an EV had a grille with mini eind turbines behind it to power things like the phone charger etc? Also, is there any chance you can get a Fisker Ocean to review?...they intrigue me.

When money is no obstacle the job is easy. What is more interesting is to see how they put a decent product out in the affordable category and even more so in the more basic range they want all of us in before 2030!

Check out a BMW i4. I’m constantly getting very close to WLTP rated range albeit that is warmer weather

The everlasting discussion about WLTP... I sometimes wonder if people even understand what it is. I have been driving a car with similar WLTP for 70000 km now and I find that when it is reasonably warm and I drive on swedish backroades, i.e. 70-90 km/h, I often exceed the WLTP. When you state that WLTP is wrong and doesn't work as a measurement, either you don't understand what it is based on, or the car manufacturer you are commenting on are bluffing (which I find hard to believe despite Dieselgate). Your comment about temperature is correct, but WLTP is based on 23 degrees Celcius.

Such a good review as yours always are and it’s very honest. It’s obviously very good, it’s a Lexus. However personally it’s definitely not for me, that range is an issue for the price. Just my take on this but find the top of the dashboard looks messy, over fussy, Well built with many excellent touches but there’s a lot on the market to tempt buyers away.

As always Lexus come up with a striking looking car. You can tell a Lexus from a mile off (wether that’s a good or bad thing is down to personal taste of course), but they stand out. My perception of them has always been the luxury side of the market, and that they clearly do in bucket loads, but as everyone is saying, that range is a killer. I wonder if they’d be better to go the Mirai route and use a hydrogen fuel cell rather than full ev???

Range isn't the be all and end all with EVs. The charging curve is almost as important. I know you don't really have time to cover off that in your time with the car but it's something that may be worth mentioning. If others have already done some testing of it.

That's a LOT of money, mate! BTW, I've been wondering about aero on EVs. They all seem to have front ends that are really blunt/large (including the Lexus). Surely a more aerodynamic front end would aid range or am I missing something?

When a Tesla Model Y Long Range is £52,990 with a range of over 300 miles, 4.8 seconds 0 to 60 and 135 miles top speed Toyota are going to have a tough time selling this for £20k more than the worlds best selling car. Then there’s the Supercharger network and it’s integration with the navigation that is a reason to buy a Tesla by itself. The Model 3 costs less if you prefer a saloon. As a Model 3 owner I’ve found range on the RWD stable at around 250 to 300 miles. The heater/ac is always running. I’ve owned Toyota’s in the past, a Prius and an Auris hybrid before I went EV with a Leaf. They were brilliant cars. It’s such a shame Toyota/Lexus have let themselves fall behind in the EV market. It doesn’t look good for them at the moment.

I'm amazed by how little range some of these brand new EV cars are getting. I have a 2018 BMW i3 and it manages 110-120 miles on a charge, has a frunk and a trunk and is perfect for around the city, for me that makes a brand new, relatively big car (so lots of space to fit the batteries and all the gubbins) feel rather embarrassing if they can only (in the real world) get around 200 miles . It seems that most of the major car manufacturers are having a hard time building an EV with decent range. Especially when you compare them with the dedicated EV companies like Rivian, Lucid or Tesla who are getting in the 4-500 mile range out of their cars.

Evening my friend, bring on the Veyron review I say 🙂🙂🤜🤛🤣👍🇬🇧

Lovely looking car beautiful inside but range not acceptable

A foldaway boot cover! How was folding along the width never explored by other manufacturers? V good.

I may be incorrect, but I believe that Akio Toyoda (Toyota's Chairman) has in the past indicated that EV is not the way to go for planet sustainability, and so despite producing the first hybrids, they have been slow on pure EV development, they do seem to be leading the way on other sustainability approaches (fuel cell for example).

Looks great but agree the range is bad for the price. We've got a Model Y in our (extended) family, and that will do 4m/kWh easily, on motorways at this time of year. Decent size frunk too. I'm not a Tesla fanboy, but I continue to be amazed/dismayed that no other manufacturer seems able to match their electrical or space efficiency. They must have pulled enough apart by now to see how they tick!

EV’s are still some way from practical. That rear seating position with typical EV knees up looks really uncomfortable for any long distance travel and the range (real world) is abysmal for that price point. Great review as always Ped 👍

It's certainly a striking looking car and those seats look sooo comfy that you'd want to just cruise for miles and miles..... As long as you could ignore the bongs till the range runs out... Surely as the bettery technology improves the range will improve as well.....??

You didn’t mention whether the car had a heat pump. I would expect it on such a expensive EV and it might help mitigate the loss of range in the winter. I think on many EVs their range is compromised by their weight. The Lexus may sit on a specific EV platform but I suspect it is more an adaption of an ICE platform - hence the lack of frunk. I guess this may have been a bit of a dilemma for Lexus as their buyers would be very reluctant to accept Tesla levels of minimalism. Until battery technology improves it is very difficult to have it both ways.

Hi Ped Interested as always to see what’s new in the block with EV’s, and whilst I have has a sneaking admiration for the Lexus brand, this does not do it. 75k almost a joke. Rear seat room does not look comfortable, I can imagine complaints from passengers relegated to the rear. Numerous other foibles would have to say a definite NO😥

On the face of it the latest I-Pace would be better. Would be interesting to see a head to head with the Jag

Dude those nats are just waiting for you to get into the car 😂

Nice 👍 pp it’s a Lexus nine i like them

I live in the north west my street has no chargers at all, everyone parks on the street. If we all swapped to electric vehicles it would be a nightmare. My nearest slow charger is 4 streets away and there is one charger on that street. With all that in mind when I swapped my car a few months ago I went petrol, I do 40k a year.

The range is show stopper for me. Too bad. Was looking to upgrade my Y version…

Another useful video. WLTP.... I know the industry uses this standard so that every manufacturer uses the same methods and criteria to show a mileage range so customers can compare different vehicles. But and this is a massive but, as you mentioned, there are no cars that get anywhere near WLTP range so the figures are meaningless and cause a real issue for anyone trying to buy an EV based on range being an important factor. I can see why manufacturers are not allowed to show what the 'real world' range is as knowing how manufacturers bend the truth, figures would be so varied it would be impossible to know if what they are saying is accurate. Tesla is a perfect example as it's already widely known they show range figures that are exaggerated even using WLTP or EPA criteria. I think we just have to take the WLTP figure and take about 30/40%? Anyway, the Lexus, it looks a nice car with a great interior but overall a little disappointing, especially with the cost. it comes across as too complicated and too many driving options with a range that is just disappointing.

Hi ped another great video from you real reviews from you are great no fluffy clouds I am not getting the eV vibe to be honest poor range unrealistic quotes on actual real world mileage shame I don't feel even vehicles are the answer ❤

I am a huge Lexus fan and have had many. Actually still do. However they can’t get their head around EVs. It’s a Toyota problem. The shame is they build great high quality cars but are a long way behind the pack. 😢😢

Great video! I’m more worried about how those seats would be with dog hair, I’m considering trading my Range Rover in. My hubby won’t allow me to get a Tesla as he’s not an Elon Musk fan. I wonder if the over the speed limit and attention beeping can be switched off? That would drive me bonkers also!

it seems like the manufacturers are wanting EVs to appear better than they really are. If only they would give 'real world driving ' figures instead of plucking them out of thin air. it's just like the petrol cars and MPG figures they all lied about, in the past. And for 75 grand for what seems to be a modest family car, I'd need it to go at least 300 miles on one charge. Air con in a car does use extra fuel, I agree. However the percentage is very minimal in fossil fueled vehicles, but an increase of 40 miles range by turning it off, seems to be excessive., IMHO. Good and honest review thanks Ped. 🙂

Ive just done 2 weeks of bigger than average daily commute (for 99% most people) of 120 per day. No issues for me on a car that only does 210 miles..... this anxiety that some people have is laughable. Yes SOME (Read very few) thats not enough, but my normal commute of 62 will be a doddle

I don't think Lexus is serious about selling this car. It's almost as though they offer it to tick a box. Small range big cost. We have the 450h PHEV and a GS, but wouldn't pay £70k+ for 200 miles range, because at that price it's got to be our primary car, not a second car for local trips.

I was expecting the price to be about £50k since it looks like a Model 3 competitor, albeit with range between the Model 3 RWD and LR so somewhat under £50k, but it's £75k????? :D :D :D

As the owner of an MG5 sr that's two and a bit years old and cost me just over 30k, I agree with comments about re-sale value (are all car dealers very greedy??) I was offered 13.5 k in part exchange, I could just see the dealer rubbing his hands in glee as he puts a sticker price of 19 - 21k forecourt price!!! But I digress. 70k for a car with such a poor range, sub ton top speed, I can't remember if a 0 - 60 time was mentioned, but what ever it was I think that Lexus are just taking the pee or just cannot be bothered or their management thinks we should still be driving ICE cars!! 😢 My MG5 is my only car, long runs, short runs, holidays, it handles all with ease, for those doubters and dinosaurs who trumpet expensive fossil fuel cars do the maths, ie fuel + maintenance + insurance!! My car insurance went DOWN last year, did yours?? 😮 If you drive two hours or a hundred miles the stop for a comfort break recharging is not even on the agenda. Ped, your reviews are excellent and concise, but honestly would YOU buy an EV with such poor specs??

Interesting test Ped. I'm afraid for me what this car is like is totally irrelevant because the range is so poor. It would be utterly useless on the motorway or autoroute.

Probably a car that the wife would be happy with to go shopping in although unashamedly we can't afford it.

Hi Peds

Looks like lousy thigh support in the rear, hope the hamstrings hold up Ped…?

To each their own. I think there are better choices worth more.

Subaru: Massive demand for new EV - doesn't care about Chinese competition The Electric Viking

I have a kia soul ev. Official range is 280 miles. During the summer i get 320 miles on a full charge. Winter is 270 ish. If you drive any car hard your mpg will suffer and EV's are no different.

Thanks for this one. Definitely a bit marmite. I like the look but the range is an issue as if often the case with EVs. For any EV to be a realistic proposition it needs to do 250 miles in my view

It all looks a lot like our 11 year old 450 just a bit more modern... No bad thing

Toyota and Lexus make great hybrids . And like any EV non will become classic cars and most models all look the same inside

I’ve ‘ranted’ about the efficiency of my 2020 Hyundai Ioniq 38kWh on here before, so please don’t ban me, but have we gone backwards in technology rather than forwards ? It’s double the price and double the battery size, but less range……. and I can have the climate control on. I think manufacturer’s have a lot work to do ween society off vehicle size and brick shaped and put more emphasis onto efficiency instead. As for looks, looks a bit cheap for the outside, maybe different in the flesh and the two tone paint looks nasty, inside looks great though. Another great EV video. Thanks.

I’d buy one when it’s about 5 years old

what's a quid?

Looks nice. Good honest review. For the money, not being able to go over 100 miles from home without wasting hours to find a charger and recharge is a nonsense. EVs just not for me.

Just came here to read the ‘ooooo not enough range’ comments, from the eeejits who do 100 miles a week :D

Good video Pete, but as others have said, this car doesn’t work really. In a family touring wagon like that, a 200 mile range (or less) just isn’t really practical. I do like EVs and currently own a Tesla M3 (which does get around its WLTP range, especially in summer months), which is a fantastic daily. This just doesn’t work for me at all though. If I wanted an SUV EV, it would be a Tesla MY or MX, or something like a BMW iX.

Eh Pardon £75k ? BMW I4 would be better but I know that is not a SUV

Yep, under the bonnet, full of "we can't be bothered to do a better job of using space".

Very nice car but I will keep my 2022 Volvo C40 all electric thanks Pete.

At the point where you mentioned the suspension the road you were on is very uneven and in need of resurfacing , so full marks for the car. For my usage, not being a dog owner, my boot space needs to accept a large outboard motor and an inflatable dinghy. The idea of putting the charge leads under the load floor is simply poor design, it means that you will need to unload the boot to access the leads for an overnight stop with a destination charger. It would be helpful for a mention of Miles per KwH to give some idea of fuel economy. That 'Range' setting shows that Toyota are not yet committed to EVs, on my LEAF the Aircon/Heater is permanently ON, whilst I still get a good range.

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! Do you remember in the 2000's when no matter what diesel you bought it was "around 50mpg"? It's the same thing all over again

Beautiful motor, spoilt by being an EV. Lexus/Toyota's Hybrids are fantastic, but like with all EV's, just are not good enough to take the reins of the good ol' ICE - in my opinion. I know at least 4 people now who have had EV's and have gone back to ICE or hybrids because of the pitfalls of EV. On of the biggest, being the monumental depreciation in comparison to a more conventional car. Great, honest review!

As I understand it Toyota is also limiting fast charging to only one per day.

Can't lie, I think it looks horrible. Thanks for the review Pete, as always quality content.

Have to say I lost interest when you needed to use that Twiglet to prop the bonnet up 🙄

my model Y reaches its wltp range, AWD 330 miles, 4 miles per kwh. love Lexus reliability and quality, but .... years and years behind Tesla in EV's

EVs need to work out how to give the floor-to-seat base height in the back, it may mean a taller roof space, for having knees folded in Z shape is not good really, it is cramping and has no under-thigh support.

Like a lot of cars from Lexus, a lot going on styling wise. For me, too many sharp angles, slashes, creases and folds…and on this one what on earth are those horns where a rear spoiler would usually be found? Plus those black embellishers around the wheel arches look like an afterthought. Not for me but I’m sure the reliability and quality reputation of the brand will convince many.

Maybe when iam old and retired but not yet 😂

I test drove the Subaru EV witch is a Toyota with a Subaru badge. the driver alert beep was very annoying. I couldn't live with that. Being a farmer always looking out the side window in the countryside, and the girls in the towns, I like the regen paddles like my wife's Kona but its not strong enough and no 1 peddle driving. so its a no likey from mee.

I agree, the range is not enough and the cost is ridicules. I’d rather spend £35,000 ish on the new long range MG4 and I will still have a smile on my face from the handling, performance and range.

To be honest 'Ped, although you indicated that there was satisfactory room in the rear seating area, I don't think the way you were sitting would be sustainable over a medium-to-long journey. In other words, I observed that your upper legs were in an inclined position that wod not be comfortable over time.

Thoughts: is this a press car? If so range will be based on recent average miles per kw im sure you're aware. ...... our sales manager said he easily had 250 miles not driving like a twat or Miss daisy?

This shape of car has a high frontal area and as an electric car, suffers from excessive weight. In other words the dynamic problems of most 4WD cars without the advantage of being able to tow a race car. Predictably with these disadvantages, the range confines this - as with most EVs - to suburban use. To be fair, much of GB is suburban and in current or future ULEZ zones. In other words, areas where you should be using a bike or public transport. It would be fair to say that low CDA unimportant for school run, suburban use (say 35 mph average), but this type of "SUV" is frankly dangerous for other road users and pedestrians. I have a lot of time for Lexus' products but hybrid still makes more sense.

Three to four years ago you could buy a car with switches on the dash or central console to disable stop/start, lane assist etc. Now the manufactures are burying these in menu systems so if you want to turn these off you have to turn them off in a menu system every time you start to drive the car. Why when cars are costing so much more today, yet they are taking away the control we used to have easy access too. Plus, who the hell asked for these annoying interventional sounds and vibrating controls when the speed limit is exceeded? Quite frankly, I think we should vote with our wallets and not buy such cars until the car manufacturers give us, the drivers, easy access to the controls without having to drill down through menu systems. The very least that could be done is a user selectable setting, like your memory seats and mirror setting, only for the controls you want to have on or have off. This setting should remember your setting for your next journey. Too much in cars now is reliant on computers, meaning this will reduce the life of the car significantly, meaning that many will be in landfill in less than 10 years, which is far from green and saving the planet...

Another average milk float……..£75k is just daylight robbery.

Think I'll get a kia ev6 😅😅😅

We're not gong to see 250+ real world miles as the mainstream for large SUVs until the battery tech improves. Tesla eak out more range due to very efficient motors, advanced battery managements systems/software, and unique chassis construction like no other. Buy they are the only ones designing from the ground-up and MAKING them differently... legacy motor companies are applying the same manufacturing processes that they've used for decades with ICE cars. To them it's a car like any other with batteries and motors where the engine and fuel tank used to be. The real gain will be when energy density per Kg goes up a gear. Newer batteries are becoming more eco-firnedly, or have 100% charging cyckles, or great life expentancy etc... but no real energy-density increase (sometimes a slight decrease for LFP). 77Kwh battery is about as big as you stuff in without the weight-to-range benefits being totally lost with current batteries. The Jaguar i-pace has a 90kwh battery, and it's one of the least effeicnet EVs on the market in miles/kwh terms, so it's range is mediocre. Conversely the VW e-up has a small 38Kwh battery, but can do 5 miles/kwh easily so 150-180 miles, making it's real-world range similar to 50Kwh EV like the 208/Corsa-e. I drive a Skoda Enyaq 60Kwh (probably 56Kwh usable) - and the WLTP is 247 miles... so not that far short of the Lexus estimate, and it's much bigger than the RX450e. I get around 200-210 in the summer and 160-180 in winter - with normal driving., non-motorway. I use aircon, heates seats, whatever i need to.... imo those have little effect on range compared to outside temperature, motoroy speeds, and night driving. There's really only a few ways to get more range from here: less weight, greater battery density, and/or dramatically more efficient motors (but they're already very efficient anyway). We may have to wait for sold-state batteries from the likes of Quantumscape before the next seachange in range. But they've been at it for years and years, and nothing production ready yet.

Lexus ie Toyta make the most comfortable reliable and cost efficient cars oh and the dealers are fantastic. Look at volkswizards channel about how a Porsche cost him £19k in less than 2 years 😂😂😂😂

Tbh I struggle to see much difference between all of these EVs you test, they all seem to do a pretty good job, not enough range and all very expensive. And with all those gadgets and gizmos, you just know, after the first couple of months you're not going to touch them. Like a washing machine or microwave you'll just use the settings you know. Still not a convert I'm afraid.