That is very true. We need to submit to God and everything His word says

Colby wants nothing to do with the God of Scripture which disqualifies him as a "pastor." In the end it will either be "Lord, thy will be done," or He will say to us "thy will be done."

@@mauigh89 Lord, let thy will be done. I dont mean to instigate😅

These are really hard issues. We want to love everyone. But the most loving thing to do is not to leave them in sin.

@@run4cmt your not wrong

Hey Jay Jay, Keep fighting the good fight. God is very happy with our pursuit of holiness and righteousness. One day we will all be walking in complete righteousness, when Jesus comes. I struggled for forty years, continuing to trust in God's forgiveness, continuing to trust the relationship we have with God, through Jesus, continuing to trust that I have a new identity in Jesus, believing God instead of my feelings. A month ago, God completely removed all same sex attraction and all of the bad habits that go with it, completely gone and vanished as if it had never been there. Strangely enough, it was forty years after I became a Christian, to the day. I didn't expect that. One thing I know. God is happy with us continuing to stand up, when we fall over, and for us to continue trusting. That is the race that is to be run. Our situation will not compare to the wonders we will realise when we are with Him. Bless you.

@@gregorrobertson2124 Praise God!!

❤PRAISE GOS'S LOVE 😢❤😢. HIS LOVE IS LIKE NO OTHER. HIS WILL IS TO BRING US BACK TO HIM; WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH. WE ARE MADE IN HIS IMAGE❤; ACT WITH JESUS CHRIST IN MIND,AND HEART SOO WE ARE PERFECTED + 💖 😍💖+ LIVING, BELIEVING, FEELING, BEING USED FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD 💓🕊️💓 ; IF WITHOUT HIM 🙌🙏🏽🙌* WHAT IS RIGHT* ? NOTHING?

@@gregorrobertson2124 thank you for this testimony

@@gregorrobertson2124 amen, lifelong struggle…. and special honours and blessings await those of us who are overcomers. Living a life that resists temptations of our flesh in seeking to live in accordance of God’s will is not easy, nor is anything else in life that is worth striving for. We are in a battle against the powers of darkness. If we give up and give in and base our “love” or what we think is love only on our feelings we base that love on shifting sand because feelings come and go. We need a more solid foundation than feelings and that foundation is found in Jesus, in sacrifice, in faithful obedience to what is truly holy and true.

Literally EVERYTHING! This is why people don’t accept Jesus. They want to do whatever they want to do.

Thanks. Got that one from Os Guinness.

@@SeanMcDowell There's a death toll associated with your rhetoric. I told you that like 5 years ago. And you still haven't cleaned up your activity. You're a piece of work.

You mean to say, the wages of sin is DEATH! Align your words with the word of God and you can never stray from righteousness 🙌

@@emartin9404 That's why I trust God and not the knowledge of good and evil. You can be born again.

@dansaber if that were true you would never attempt to draw an association of death tolls to a man reverberating the word of God Plainly described in the text of the Bible within the Scriptures

Sean has had my attention for a couple months now, with him trying to understand and explain peoples views, however it doesn't change my views whatsoever!!!! Go Sean

Yes of course if they will listen to. Colby is willing to listen to Sean

At least he tried. He still sticks to his far left delusions, but he tried.

Why are we calling it a traditional christian view? The ONLY view a Christian holds is that homosexuality is a sin. If you hold any other position you are living in sin and in rebellion of God and we need to call that out.

@@hoxiefam6731agree - we need to be careful with how we use language. Words matter. They shape our understanding in ways we don’t even realize. The far left knows this - that’s why they cover their ideas in euphemisms.

how is this guy even a pastor teaching the bible

Everything he says is emasculated. He is being led by his and other people's feelings.

@@inchristalone25 yeah we can't be led by our feelings our hearts are wicked.

Colby doesn’t seem to try to sympathize with God’s feeling on the matter. That’s a problem. It doesn’t matter what Sean or Colby “feels”. What matters is what God commands.

I agree. 1:23:12 "Thats a God I really want nothing to do with". That made my jaw drop and it is really sad.

That’s a great suggestion, thanks…

Let's be clear, it's just being spoken about more - the questioning of one's sexuality has never changed throughout history, people are just engaging and feeling more free to express their journey with others. Better this than what the Church did a bad job of in the past which was mired in hate and really caused a lot of harm. We can debate the puritanical (not historically consistent as Sean may be somewhat mistaken about) perspectives of marriage within the West, but we'd have to really expand out some concepts if we are to be truly honest about what marriage is and should be in and out of a "Christian" (which is itself broadly different) context.

Ephesians 6:12 “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” God love ALL humans, he loathes anti-humanity organizations (Romans 1:26-32) These organizations, such as Sodom, Nazi, CCP, drug cartels, human traffickers, organ harvesters, genocide performers, are the true meanings of “men committed shameful acts with other men.” Don’t take Romans 1:26-27 out of context and use it to attack gay people. It has nothing to do with gays. LGBTQ+ are humans. Churches attack them are anti-humanity organizations too. Don’t be fooled by Satan’s teachings and explanations. He wants to turn churches into anti-humanity organizations for sure.

@@desnock can you honestly say with a straight face that societal pressures do not influence someone's sexuality? That this absolutely rudderless, identity crisis we've been thrown into where biology itself is controversial, has no bearing on the 40% of Gen-z-ers who identify as LGBTQ?

@@Luke_Radiosmash I don't think I made that claim, Luke. Can you say with a straight face that the Bible is recounting historically cultural realities that have been used to confirm biases? The story of the OT is that humanity has always been rudderless, and the NT the rudderless were the Pharisees, to which the current Church is most aligned with theologically and illogically. The idea that gay people or trans people didn't exist in prior ages is a lack of historical research on your part and again a sense of confirmation bias that revels in not being quite up on what you are talking about. Again, those people existed from time immemorial. The only difference today is we are aware of it as the voices are more able to communicate in the public square. The identity crisis resorting to bigoted perspectives has been helped by a more honest conversation by those 40%ers who God loves as much as the bigots who hate them.

Well put!

Very true. It seems clear that Colby is a very thoughtful and deep man, and if he keeps honestly and earnestly searching, then he will find the truth.

Astute observation!

Perfectly said

Just because someone is more comfortable in public speaking and can articulate better, doesn't necessarily make him right. Take Jordan Peterson for example.

@jay pritchett wow, how did you get a spiritual adviser, and how do i reach her?

@jay pritchett Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now on the net

It sounds like you guys are discussing witch ( spiritual adviser healer caster) and witchcraft… be careful with that

When you think of her, pray for her. Pray for help in this situation. Pray for His will be done.

I know man... Was married 23+ years. And I've been single since the divorce she wanted and got. She wasnt in love with me anymore? Ahes been married and divorced two more times so I guess she is searching for happiness? Or possibly a better version of me? Idk... Divorce sucks for all parties involved. The kids, the couple, the families, the friends ... But I am okay but still broken about the whole ordeal. Good luck to you man.

Sure does.

Hes slippery like a snake.

Amen❤

Even your ignorance

Evangelical Christians have to use good manners, if you assholes actually revealed what fascist hatemongers you are then everyone would write you off as the garbage people you are. Evangelicals are the worst pieces of shit in America. You should all get in a boat and then sink it.

❤

So true. And we need to not make marriage an idol. Marriage is also really hard.

​@@daraharvey4519I wish I was married :(

Oh, you are soo right. Feelings can change like the weather. Mon u can "feel" one way, then Wed its something else. No foundation At all.

you can literally see the ego speaking in his eyes

The power of the Holy Spirt!

Yes! He is completely in tune with the Holy Spirit. 🙏🏽😊🌿🙆🏻‍♀️♥️

sounds like you're glorifying your own confirmation bias . gives me the warm and fuzzies ...

@@GypsyGirl317 sure, Gypsy. Cringe

There's more than one way of being Einstein

God doesn't have a gender

@formerfundienowfree4235 and seeing the eunuchs (homosexuals) were exempted from mf marriage by jesus as recorded in Matthew 19 this argument is more than stupid . It also presumes a definition of marriage was given , and an exhaustive one at that. 🤣 🤡🌍

@@formerfundienowfree4235Hod identify himself as He though.

@@camerong5513 Nobody said there wasn't more than one way of being. That's irrelevant. You can choose to live your life however you want, but if you're living contrary to God's word then you make yourself an enemy of God and those who do that will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

Yep!

One went to Christ's instruction and the other is coming to terms with rejecting the Pharisee's POV and seeing the good fruits that follow Jesus' commandments... May be you're confused. God Bless!

@@desnock Completely agree. Sean went to Christ’s instruction. I see his guest has having a great heart but unfortunately Jesus did not call us to use our hearts to see His Word. The Bible actually calls our hearts wicked. He called us to let His Word determine our worldviews.

@@Brandoncannon No, you meant Colby went to Christ's instruction which you can see Sean struggling with to catch up with. Easy mistake as even Sean points out he's not relying on the Pharisee like legalism. Jesus does call us to discern and to love which is to rely on our hearts. If anyone misses this commandment, then that is a sad outcome indeed. I get the mistake. People are wicked, like the Pharisees who twist scripture and whom Christ called evildoer. The love Christ speaks to from our hearts is infused in his ministry. From the Samaritan, to the healing of the Roman who came to take him to the Cross, to again, the Greatest Commandments which were love. Even Paul points this out in his (albeit non authoritative) way when talking about faith hope and love. That you miss that saddens, but also proves the point Sean is struggling with in how many "believers" get it wrong. His whole reason for this was to point out the lack of compassion. He'll get there with the Holy Spirit work Colby is espousing to Sean, and you can see how it is changing his heart, which again I'm sad you see for yourself is wicked...but also likely just a method of espousing your dogma against Christ's teaching. That's meaningful, if you feel you should pray on it? HIS Word, not the Bible, which are two different things. You do realize that the Bible we know of wasn't written in His time? And that He didn't edit it? Not trying to be facetious, but the logic you are relying on is probably the start of yours, and Sean's, confusion.

Colby says God is love - Jesus is God, and Jesus said after forgiving to ‘go and sin no more’. Can’t really say He got it wrong. Other replies here seem to think love means leaving them in their sins.

mmaky

Evangelicals have taken over a lot of youtube religious conversations but they are very much in the minority. Mennonites I liked working with because I remember going to a church meeting once and they told me "we're building a group home this week, and thats what we're talking about in church". They get into NO theological arguments or discussions and go with "Jesus said do good works, lets do good works". That leaves NO time for judging others, something the evangelical faiths now seem to often ONLY do.

And then he compared him being wrong with Sean and said Sean would get judged more harshly. The arrogance and naivety showed strongly there .

So what's the difference between actions and works Einstein?

Faith without works is dead. Apparently folks seem to always forget that when they consider how they mistreat gays.

@@noblelies meaning what exactly?

So true 💯

I agree...I could not have done this.... honestly, it made my blood boil...so many people are pointing out that Colby wants God to bend to him and if He doesn't, Colby wants nothing to do with Him.. and yet he's a preacher, a preacher of what...yep, no way I could have done this conversation with him...but this only tells me that I have to work harder in the Lord to have patience with others...

@@donnar9864 Absolutely. I find myself yelling at my phone when listening to conversations like this - particularly when Progressive "Christians" are involved- I dont know that it can even be called Christianity, it's totally unorthodox and they've made God into their own image in order to support their lifestyle. I have never had a problem loving people, but I have a real problem when they're being led astray by someone who knows better. Colby even said at one point that he didnt want to be involved with the God Sean was describing. These Progressive Churches will someday answer for lying to their flocks- Pastors and teachers are held to a higher standard. I feel sorry for the people he is misleading. Truth is Objective. There is no relative Truth, only THE Truth, Jesus. Not MY truth, not YOUR truth, THE TRUTH. I hope Colby someday sees it. I'm glad there are leaders like Sean out there who are willing to tell The Truth in a loving way. I pray God gives me the grace to not get angry about those leaders who are misleading the public and using Gods word as an excuse.

What part did Sean got wrong? ( explain Biblically please)

@@ladillalegos 🤔I hold Sean’s view. I don’t think Sean got anything wrong. He did a great job!

@@ladillalegos even Sean struggles with and respects he could be wrong. There is a reason beyond any legalism/literalism that underlies your perspective that this happens. The Holy Spirit is alive and well in Colby as he practices what Christ preached and doesn't rely on bad dogma. The bible as misapplied cannot be used as a standard for a number of reasons: most of you don't really understand the historicity and culture that created it. Second, you don't apply consistency to it as you make and infuse it with authority it doesn't possess (and doesn't pretend). And then there are the troubling scriptures that suggest a daughter to be sold to her rapist, the rules and regulations around slavery which IS all part of the Jewish Law. AND the fact that Jesus simply didn't state that homosexuality or even polygamy were sins as a matter of FACT, regardless of how folks want to imbue Paul with the authority of Christ (which would be idol worship, specifically pointed out by Christ as a sin against 1 of His 2 Commandments). So bearing false witness IS a sin, and making idols out of your own particular dogma/bias is another example of a lack of humility and ability to submit yourself to God's instruction IF you believe Christ was God. There is a reason HE said to deal with the log in your own eye (a large item) against a speck in another's (a small item). There is a reason He said that some would come in His name that HE would call evildoer. It's probably a good idea to meditate on those items than propagate a false dogma, which I see Sean is struggling with. He would admit he preached incorrectly when he was younger and you could see the struggle IN love that he had when confronted by a gay parishoner's struggle. If Sean, or you, continue to be honest and let the Holy Spirit work in you, it'll lift the veil from your eyes. I have faith that if YOU are ready to hear God's wisdom, someday you'll get there. Just have to get beyond the religion and dogma and childish/magical thinking, which even Sean struggles with. God Bless.

@@desnock with all due respect, and in kindness. I believe that Jesus talks about adultery very clearly, and defines it to greater extent even stating that those who divorce in order to be with others are adulterous. Matthew 5:27-32 But I think that just by reading Matthew chapter 5 in general gives sufficient basis on His moral compas regarding to Jewish law. God bless

@@adrianruiz6091 He does talk about adultery, that's my point Adrian. He doesn't talk about homosexuality or polygamy, so if He wanted to point out sins of marriage, wouldn't He have pointed them out? Both existed as relationships in His time. So even here Christ gives permission for divorce. And says one must give her a certificate for divorce. So where did I suggest His position on adultery? And in what way does this apply to His non-position on homosexuality or polygamy? The discussion revolves around people making up a sin Christ never spoke about, but He did talk about sexual sin. Thanks for the respect, we'll show each other the courtesy as we try to help each other see what Christ said and meant. Can you correlate that with Matt 22: 34-40? As the guiding principles of how we are to see anything HE says or how we'd interpret any Scripture based on HIS instruction?

I agree. While likeable, he seems to be all over the place. And he admits that he doesn’t answer questions directly.

I agree as well… it’s like this, if you want to do what you want, ok fine, but don’t say it’s not wrong. People just need to admit that they’re doing wrong and stop trying to make what is wrong, right!

Perfect summary! He says outloud he has "crooked theology" Likeable. Doesn't seem to have any roots in Scripture. Then mentioned his "out" is he's "following Jesus example"

Yes! Most people cave to the "feelings" department. They choose to forget God is perfect and he condemns all sin!

You stated it well! I was listening to learn how Colby defined scripture that allows and even accepts his ideas. He did not provide Bible facts on the subject, only his opinions.

Hi. I just wanted to say I think it's great what God has done for you as that doesn't always happen. Sometimes people cannot rid themselves of same sex attraction. But still, just like any miracle, they happen when and if God decides, not on our own timing. Blessings!

Colby wants you to believe him over the overwhelming scripture reference. He throws in “your hermeneutical approach” which implies the new approach of the liberal theological approach is better than the last 2000 years of Leviticus, Romans interpretation. Colby fails completely in trying to prescribe a new interpretation and I can only assume he is moved by the latest 20 years of lgbt movement without acknowledging the Bible’s condemnation of same sex marriage. He just blows past it and cannot give a biblical response. He looks at moments of time in heterosexual marriage and says “it’s sinful” as well and therefore what? God created the Union of man and women period. The purpose was to unify and become one body and therefore give a better understanding of God himself. Be fruitful and multiply was the command of God to mankind. So where does LGBT fit into this plan?

@@dyn-o-miteessentialoilteam7162 agreed!

i’m sorry that you are this delusional

PREACH!!!

All the civility in the world doesn't really prevent the endless splitting of the denominations and churches. The logical end to all of it will be that each individual will have his own religion and church. Imagine, a bunch of churches each with a congregation of one!

@@vgrof2315 very true brother.

That was seriously heart wrenching when he said that. I pray God's light and grace for anyone who believes that way. God's will and word is what is holy and just regardless, we can't judge it based on our feelings and Philosophy.

Sherry, Well said Thank You how you shared your heart. I feel like Wow God help me to be more like these men. Telling their truths to eachother. Do I condemn like the pharesees and not even realize it????

I mirror Colby's sadness for those who prefer an angry judgmental God that is on your side vs the side of unconditional love. I get his point 100pct. You've been inculcated with a God that you must feel punished by for being who God made you. And hate yourselves so much you must avoid the log in your own eye. It IS pretty sad.

@@desnock You so provoke me to rethink when God said we are all sinners saved by Grace. I've always thought God is a Loving God who understands why we choose what we do.I myself believed in things that when I studied out the word Bec my heart and head didn't match I shifted my point of view. God's word has brought me life and understanding that I could have never reached without him.

@@theresabriant6499Absolutely. Same is true of all who truly seek Him. I think you do, but unfortunately we both see some folks who CLAIM to be seeking Him who we can tell aren't really serious. That's as much reason to engage (or try to) with folks who are caught up in bad understandings of Christ, scripture, etc. Our minds should always be ready (and our hearts) to changes God tries to write in us. Remember, dogmas are from men, not God. And God gave us not only the will, but instruction to discern (test by the fruits). If the dogma isn't of love? Discard it. Try to reason with those Pharisees as Christ did, but also realize that Christ said some who claimed to be His followers were indeed "evildoers". So we must be ever vigilant, and I am certainly called to defend those who God has created that have suffered mightily under these religious biases that Christ cannot be happy with.

Thanks Kim. That’s my goal.

He believes there are guidelines. He just believes that the second greatest commandment is the guideline that trumps all the others. He believes loving people and not placing burdens on them that you wouldn't place on yourself (lifelong celibacy, marriage to someone you're repulsed by, etc.) is more important than rule-keeping. I disagree with some of the assumptions and cherry-picking behind that premise. But I understand why he feels that way. He truly believes he is defending God's love by rejecting what he sees as a legalistic God.

No idea why anyone bothers with the Bible any more. What’s the point? Life and nature work perfectly well without it.

@@scrumpymanjack The Bible is the revelation of all truth. Life and nature ''work'' without it sure, but you wouldn't know why it works, who makes it work, or what the meaning of life is in general.

@@scrumpymanjack does it? Seems to be falling apart and destroying itself. "Life and nature" being man left to himself is inherently selfish and with morals.

@@Masculai1z please prove to me that that is what the Bible is. If you do, I will go to church every week for the rest of my life. As the evidence stands, I prefer to look at the Bible as an historically fascinating but ultimately absurd attempt to explain the origins of life and the universe.

Agree as well. Even though I’m not married and have had sexual relationships I do think now as a Christian it’s unhealthy to let different souls enter you.

@@jennifer8929 but its interesting that only when gay people do this is it considrred a " lifestyle" but when straight people do it, its not called the " straight lifestyle". There is a segment of the straight population that hangs out in straight bars, hooking up for sex, drinking, engage in promiscuous sex, even sadomasochistic sex, yet this is never called the " straight lifestyle". Interesting.

@@christopherscheiber1439It's called fornication.

@@barbaraperales8663 the description of homosexuality as a lifestyle is a blatent oversimplification of human sexuality in general and homosexuality in particular. The reason that we never hear the term " heterosexual lifestyle" is because there is no need to catogorize heterosexuality with such inherent connotative oversimplification in order to subconciously justify contempt and hatred through subjective comparison.

@@christopherscheiber1439 Yes, that is true; I agree.

That would be awesome

The letter kills. The spirit gives life.

@@DIBBY40 Good thing Gods spirit never contradicts his word ☺️

When you say what the church has done in the past , what church are you talking about ?

That's absolutely true - we need to start that God and his word are the absolutes. We can then work from there - but we also need to respond to the LGBTQ community with love and compassion instead of taking the heavy hand right off the bat.

@@Elitynski I agree 100% We must show mercy and compassion for everyone and not just to the gay community. However, we should be direct and not be wishy washy with the word of God entertaining “progressive” thinking, which is contrary to the word. The commands are clear and not difficult to interpret. What did Jesus tell the prostitute after showing her mercy? - “Go and SIN NO MORE” [Jn 8:11] Repentance (turning away from sin and then turning to God’s commandments) should follow after we are forgiven. Peace and blessings.

@@vasignature Nice comments Victor, I hope some gay person benefits from your love and compassion. You are quite handsome too. :D Its not easy having SSA, living according to a traditional Christian ethic and not having support. Our faithful brothers and sisters need our help. It is true we need more compassion period, but this is a much neglected group--faithful LGBTQ Christians.

Do you support slavery then? Because passages like "47 “And a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn’t prepared and doesn’t carry out those instructions, will be severely punished." Indicate that the Bible is ok with it, if you are not willing to use nuance and context. If it is the case that someone is only willing to use nuance and context for passages that support a personal dislike of homosexuality then then they are arguably being inconsistent and cherry picking God's words to suit a personal agenda, which of course is the same thing you have highlighted.

This and that’s what progressive Christianity thrives on is ambiguity. The more lost you are the more enlightened you appear in their circles

I agree.Colby wants to justify this lgbtq way of living

Alternatively, Colby knows that a God who creates people’s natural sexual orientation just to reject their natural state isn’t very loving at all

There was little Biblical truth discussed here, just two men's opinions on things.

@@mads597 God is more than love. God is also justice and truth. Some things are true whether we as humans like it or not. He is the creator. We are the created. We get to decide if we want to follow God, but it's on His terms, not ours. You cannot pick and choose what you're going to follow in the scripture. JESUS said in the last days, many would cray out to Him and He would not acknowledge them by saying, he never knew them. Imagine that. Manipulating scripture to fit and justify your lifestyle and making God a liar because you don't like what His "rules" are. If you continue to sin without repentance (this goes for all of us and all of sin) then we're really just liars in general. The light is not in us. But we are all sinners, we should at least TRY not to sin and when we do repent-earnestly repent. We certainly don't throw ourselves parades and claim we are proud of it.

Alternatively, Colby’s idea of God loves all people, not just the ones like you and me. Scary, I know.

Your truth is not someone else's. This is the mistake of the dogma that is promoted against the metaphor that was meant.

@Mike Hammer worshipping dogma against Christ IS a choice. Presuming that dogma is correct is not a valid argument to the validity of any dogma, otherwise others who claim superiority based on them saying God is on their team are equally valid. Problem is the claim is equally invalid.

Lifestyle? Articulate

@@coreyshaffer3903 the description of homosexuality as a lifestyle is a blatent oversimplification of human sexuality in general, and homosexuality in particular. Such indoctrination of the collective societal psyche is paramount to the self validating delusion of heterosexuality possessing moral validity. The reason that we never hear the term " heterosexual lifestyle "( even though one cannot describe homosexuality as a lifestyle without also describing heterosexuality as a lifestyle) is because there is no need to catogorize heterosexuality in order to subconciously justify contempt and hatred through subjective comparison.

@@christopherscheiber1439 👏🏽👏🏽 He didn't take the bait lol. I like to think of homosexuality as a love style versus the pejorative notion "life style"

Why is it contentious? Ever read Deut. 18? God says a man lying with a man as with a woman is an abomination. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for its depravity. Why is this open to discussion? Sin is sin. I never ask God to approve MY sins. I REPENT. Daily.

yea yea. 'k

Exactly👏🏾

Yeah he missed our sinful nature

Hi Colby Respectfully Why did GOD make woman if HE did not want marriage to be just a man and a woman

Well put. ❤️ 🙏🏽 😊 🌿 🙆🏻‍♀️

🤣 I don’t know who any of those people are , but I do like hair (and I cut my own!)

Unfortunately, not a very charitable comment, Ruslan KD. I don't see the need to dig at a person's appearance. If it matters to you at all, Colby, I think you look sharp.

@@mrcolbymartin Very nice job with the hair. Hairdressing might be your second calling.

@@tinahochstetler2189 or his first calling.

@@BlueWambat I guess you were standing behind the door when they handed out irony? Eh?

You don't know that they no longer desire it though, do you. If they live in fear then of course they have a reason to claim that they are 'fixed'

I assume you are female. I'm a male who experiences with SSA. I thank God you have been able to find peace and able to reconcile your faith and sexuality. I feel my journey has been rewarding. I no longer consider this a struggle and I've found much peace, love and happiness. May God continue to grant you the same in abundance.

@@angelinadesanto672 That's true, as long as one's image of jesus isn't a projected narcissism. It's a kenotic experience rather than a projected self-image. maturity is easier the older one gets lol.

Same.

Exactly! Either you believe in the Bible’s TRUTH,or not. You can’t pick and choose the word of GOD.God destroyed Sodom and G.

my heart is burdened for your detachment from reality

Sean keeps returning to the bible for truth. Colby keeps returning to his feelings. We should feel love and compassion towards LGBT persons, but we need to gently nudge them towards God's loving and perfect truth.

@@cathyphillips9120 that’s ironic because you have no access to truth. the bible isn’t truth. you believe in the bible because of your feelings and wishful thinking nothing more

@@Obscuredbywinds No. We believe the bible despite our feelings, because it is the word of God.

He totally is Very impressive

Love to hear it, thanks!

No, no I am not.

@@mrcolbymartin It's what pedophiles have renamed themselves. MAPs - Minor Attracted Persons. they say the word 'pedophile' is too stigmatized, so they gave themselves a new name. Because apparently that makes it all better. They use all the same arguments that are used to justify same sex marriage. They say they are born that way and it's an unchangeable sex orientation, and isn't it sad that they'll never be able to experience love with the only people they are attracted to. There are already academics painting them in a sympathetic light, and agreeing with them that their attraction to children is a fixed sexual orientation that they are born with and can not change. The MAP groups, pedophile groups, whatever they like to be called have been trying to have the age of consent lowered, citing the fact that it varies from one part of the world to another. So they see no justification for it. They also fight their battle based on their 'concern for the sexual autonomy of children.' They think of themselves as a children's rights group that way.

@@mrcolbymartin Thanks for having these convos, Colby. Much respect for that. Curious, how would you define 'woman' in a way that includes 'trans women'? Is there anyway to define that besides: 'anyone who identifies as a woman". and if so, isn't that a bit incoherent?

@@mrcolbymartin Why does no one ever talk about gay sex and heterosexual sex when you have multiple partners? Can we not talk about the damaging health effects of these behaviours? The only reason heterosexual and homosexual promiscuity’s can happen I this post modern era is because of medical advancement. You can practice abominations because of aids and and STI treatments and of course the elimination of preborn children (abortion) … why does no one ever broach these issues? It seems so obvious that if you have to make medicine to practice something that is apparently completely “natural” , isn’t this a red flag? Isn’t it obvious on a purely natural observation that nature (Gods design) of one man and one women to commit for the longevity of their lives preserves an individual from sexual infections and extramarital unwanted children) that can lead to suffering, illness and death? I’m sorry to be vulgar , but there is a lot of prep work that goes into having gay sex… not saying heterosexual individuals don’t wanna be clean before the act, but… come on!…… think about it… this is not natural… even though it might feel good and right… think about the purely practical and biological processes… it ain’t right… Also in the 90s a-lot of gay men died from aids virus… this is not flourishing… why don’t we talk about these elephants 🐘 Pretty sure also we have waves of illness and death in heterosexual promiscuity like syphillis chlamydia ect which have horrible effects on the body! This should be such an obvious reason we should I abstain from sexual immorality…

I was thinking about this towards the end of the video. I had recently watched your video on m.a.p 👍

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It doesn't matter if we are compassionate because if we are promoting ideas that are contrary to God's word then we are an enemy of God! No amount of compassion in one's heart can change that. Colby is leading people to hell and he will have to answer for it

I have said this many times in comments, the bible has been translated thousands of times. The word gay or homosexual did not even exist in those times. And was not even put into our Bibles until 1946. I have spent years translating the bible. My family is from Greece. The original word used by Paul was(I will spell them in English not Greek for you) " arsenokitai." This word has been compared to many writings before and after the bible was written. In all those writings when arsenokitai is used it is not referring to homosexuality, it's referring to molestation, sexual assault, abuse of some form. For example, you can find the word used in ancient Greek writings about the sins of the Gods, like when they talk about Zeus raping a young boy. We have many ancient texts using this word, non of them refer to the word as it was translated into English thousands of years later. Historically the original word "arsenokitai" never meant homosexual, it meant forced upon, assault of a sexual nature. Back in the days Paul was writing, young boys were being sold to people, most of them had power of some sort, or money, to be used for sexual purposes. It was a huge problem that Paul was addressing and condemning. This is the truth, and something Paul clearly would have felt strong about, and would have been against. So Cody is not leading anyone astray, he has done his homework, and obviously spent the time translating the bible as I have. It's actually an amazing thing to do for yourself. Finding out what the bible actually says, not just trusting one of the thousands of translations. Over all, the translations we use today are mostly accurate, but some things were clearly translated wrong, and changed the meanings of the original writings, this being one of those things, and a big thing in my opinion.

You're right God does know our hearts and colbys couldn't be further from God if he tried. He's just admitted that he doesn't want to serve a God with the values that God has given us . Why because it doesn't fit with his worldy life style .

@@laughsalot6847 it clearly states that man shall not lay with man as he would a woman . Same meaning but like you said there was no such words in those days

@@michaelmarshall9132 Exactly! He's more concerned with not wanting to give up the sinful desires of the flesh. And I don't think it's compassionate or loving at all to affirm someone's sin, especially someone who's supposed to be a pastor.

The little boy suffering in a closet of self hatred and shame may not agree with your conclusion here.

@@cliffcarbone555 Lies are never the right way to handle things.

@@cliffcarbone555 It is a sad state that of self oppression. Come all who are weary and you will find rest. Culture is more accepting to LGBT community than the what the Bible truly states because it is an issue of pride. If the Lord touches your heart, he will transform you for HIS GLORY. Not to be made socially acceptable. The first step in following Christ is repentance and then follows baptism for the forgiveness of your sins to be made a new creature... the burial of the old man. You must recognize that you are fallen from grace before reaching towards it. Then comes the most beautiful confirmation of your existence in Christ. Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Hallelujah! He radically transforms you and what you used to be a slave to and like you begin to detest and rebuke. And then you live your life in an ever growing relationship with the Lord. Rejoice for he is near! God bless

@@adrianruiz6091 60 years ago people were using the Bible to justify segregation and condemn interracial marriage. How many Christians still hold this view? How many people will still hold the anti-LGBT view in another 60 years? Jesus was all about sticking up for the oppressed and overthrowing religious authority and rigid interpretation of scripture. I would be careful not to become a modern day pharisee.

@@CJ-oc2ff Who is talking about segregation? Who is is stating that anyone isn't welcome? The Bible is the foundation of our faith. Either you believe in the whole of it or not at all, no nitpicking and personalizing allowed. Hot or cold... As far as I am concerned, taking a stance for what is right in the precepts given by God almighty in his word is always going to cause discomfort to the flesh. We are meant to be witnesses and be persecuted for speaking the truth. I know that this is a "progressive" age for all sorts of thinking and philosophy. My argument is simply to surrender to what scripture says about everything. Period. I didn't write the Bible. But I do believe in all of it. People can come with all sorts of distortion to justify their Ego. That's why we are so divided. If I saw you on the street I wouldn't treat you any differently, I would hang eat and talk. Pray for each other and move on.. But don't impose human philosophy on the word of God and try to sell it. Don't be deceived for in the last days everything good shall be called wicked and vice versa. The fact that people pay more attention to apologetics instead of reading the word and letting Him transform every aspect of your life is a clear indication of prideful thinking. Well you could state all sorts of arguments against fascist, genocidal, hypocritical concepts in the Bible but when the Truth reveals Himself in your life through the Holy Spirit, you realize that your pride gets in the way of surrender to Christ. We all fall short. So, READ the word (not just verses), and whatever frustrations and battles you you have with his word, talk to Him about and let Him reveal it to you. That's what millions of people have experienced when they surrender. -whoever CHOOSES to hold on to their life will lose it, but for those who give up their life will sure gain it. Jesus God bless and much love,

Well put

Great analogy!

Well said! I often wonder why the conversation doesn’t include a look at the consequences related to any activity that contradicts instructions in the Bible. 🤔

what might be interesting is applying it to your pride and arrogance that you've got the experience with the gift. when you use it to lord it over others, you've lost the point.

​@@desnock What would you tell me if I said the following? _"I want to marry my sister, and if you don´t affirm my incestuos marriage, then you are intolerant and un-loving and an incestuo-phobe and go against my incestuos-rights"_

I agree 100% with you Bryan.🙏🏼🙌🏽😇

Agree! Very well stated

Load off rubbish. If we stuck with biblical teachings from 2000 years ago we’d be stoning women and keeping slaves.

Bryan, all of us resolve answers strictly based on our feelings of what we feel the Bible says. That's not a valid argument. The question is why and he DID provide Scripture in that he relies on Christ - because he's a Christian, not a Pharisee (whom Christ criticized for the very argument you are making, all due respect). If he has an honest love and concern, and is called through and by Christ through the Holy Spirit to his ministry, who exactly are you? On what principle (and/or authority) do you suggest his perspective is wrong? You can't say SCRIPTURE, because that is the very debate. Christ had different perspectives on legalism and Scripture than you do. HE doesn't mistake, for instance, Paul (a Pharisee) for having authority. The list goes on on VALID disagreements with the various dogmas out there which aren't just a few. I think he is masterfully letting the Holy Spirit do a work in Sean who obviously feels in his heart he WANTS Scripture to match up where God has his heart, and continues to see Colby as that vessel. I think you may be mistaking what is going on here :). No, CHRIST is the standard, the Bible is a bunch of books people put together arbitrarily and includes all manner of mythology, poetry, history and some wisdom. Making an idol out of Scripture is EXACTLY what Christ preached AGAINST. If you want to practice an orthodox Jewish faith (which is what you are arguing), as a Gentile (presumably), you don't qualify. To wit, you ascribe JAMES Jesus authority, which is idol worship. This is why Jesus said worry about the log in thine own eye, as your very dogma contradicts Jesus while you point out OTHER's contradiction with ZERO authority. Jesus did speak the truth and His church hates him for it through those whose central guiding principle is JESUS. Dear Lord! Jesus came to say to those who had however many centuries of Jewish "religion" that THEY were wrong. Do you miss this central element? Just because people get it wrong for a long time doesn't impute validity! Jesus lists a lot of sexual sins, but not homosexuality, not once. You bearing false witness is itself a sin. See how this works? He doesn't dance around it at all, you are correct. You miss He doesn't MENTION it at all! It is indeed the Christian's job to make Jesus palatable by extolling the love HE shared with us. Your legalism and self-hate is an example of you being caught in a hell of your own choosing by choosing faith that prefers you ignorant. "I"d rather make you mad with the truth and see you find salvation than to make you happy and see you damned now or for all eternity (if we are talking childish beliefs)". Take a second and apply your admonition to yourself IF indeed you're full of...baloney.

@@NomadOutOfAfrica do you think so?

I’m glad it was helpful!

That’s a very good perspective. Even if we don’t agree with someone, it’s necessary to understand their views and be respectful and listen.

@@gfujigo This is true and also to challenge our own assumptions that we can be lazy or misled from. Jesus served this purpose, theoretically (though you might want to talk to the Jewish religion on where Jesus got it wrong, or the other religions that Judaism and Christianity borrowed heavily from).

@@desnock Thanks. Interesting points. Out of curiosity, where do you think Jesus got it wrong. Thanks again and all the best to you.

@@gfujigo To be clear, I said what the Jewish religion said where Jesus went wrong and that is, that He was the Messiah. They obviously disagree, which is the point of critical thinking to realize that Christianity is a belief, one of many. And that only confirming our biases is what I was pointing out we can be lazy or misled from. Many things have been done in Christ's name (or even in the OT) that are demonstrably evil - selling one's daughter to her rapist (in Deuteronomy). Christendom has a list of sins to answer for - slavery, torture, murder, greed, abuse of little children sexually by clergy - and yes I could go on, unfortunately). Presumably you are aware that much of Christ's attributes (and Judaism for that matter) were directly or indirectly influenced by previous religions that they drew from. Genesis myths, flood myths, ideas of heaven/hell and judgement, virgin births and miracles and messiahs. This is not to say any one religion is true or false, but that we cannot be scared to see what the scholarship is on these things so we are not bamboozled by confirmation biases or cultural apologism. So this is why we "must challenge our own assumptions that we can be lazy or misled from." Make more sense? Apologies if what I said above was vague. People complain when I leave long replies, so I was uncommonly succinct in my responses. Apologies! :)

This video is clearly bigoted

@@xstatic-ow5mz lol

@@xstatic-ow5mz yes I also found Colby to be arrogant by not answering questions straight on and as you rightly point out bigoted .