LGR Oddware - The Iomega ZIP Drive Experience

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7 жыл бұрын

Oddware isn't always about obscure and failed products! Taking a look back at the ZIP 100 drives from the mid-90s, including their history, packaging, setup, and usage on a Windows 9x PC.
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@marcozolo3536
@marcozolo3536 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still saving up for one to this very day
@afterstars
@afterstars 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@thelastdragon5551
@thelastdragon5551 3 жыл бұрын
I got one at 18. Not sure how.
@user-ze3ui8ur9h
@user-ze3ui8ur9h 2 жыл бұрын
i found one in my garage
@ashleygingell776
@ashleygingell776 Жыл бұрын
not sure how far your gonna get with purchasing it new at RSP
@johnfoltz8183
@johnfoltz8183 Жыл бұрын
I hear that they’re going to replace 3.5 floppies 😊
@betsyduane3461
@betsyduane3461 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in the graphics industry and these were essential before USB drives. Kept mountains of logos and art files and were quickly interchangeable.
@Tomd4850
@Tomd4850 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, same in the printing industry. Pretty much up until the mid 2000's, ZIP drives were common for graphic artists bringing in files, or for moving files to and from older systems that didn't have network capabilities, such as imagesetters. It wasn't until the late 2000's when USB drives finally came down in price that we were able to phase them out completely. Of course, everything today is networked together, and everything external come from LFT off the internet. I think once in the last 3 years, a very old-school artist came in with files on a ZIP drive. Luckily, I still keep one around that works! 😆
@fastica
@fastica 2 жыл бұрын
I studied graphic design in 1999 and these were a life saver.
@IanBetteridge
@IanBetteridge 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, they replaced SyQuests pretty quickly.
@tomyyoung2624
@tomyyoung2624 Жыл бұрын
Yes (working) drives where harmed during the marking of this episode...
@toonman361
@toonman361 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, hardly forgotten.
@Nightweaver1
@Nightweaver1 4 жыл бұрын
These were the best thing ever when I first started college in the late '90s (1997-99) when our Macs didn't have enough HDD space, and we were in graphics classes. We could store an entire semester's worth of projects on one or two of these bad boys and take them with us. They were virtually indestructible and made classes that much more fun when you walked in with your Zip disk and knew you were ready to go for the day. Good times.
@OutdoorsWithShawn
@OutdoorsWithShawn 4 жыл бұрын
Good times until the Click of Death and I lost a lot of projects. Ended up having to use two disks to save to; one as a backup
@TheLokCheung
@TheLokCheung 4 жыл бұрын
This bring back memories. I started art school in 1999, had a few of these in different colours for different things (can’t remember now, different projects? Different classes?). Those PowerMac G3 at school all had internal zip drive, and because those PowerMac G3 has its own translucent green case if you remember those, I’m sure they had it custom ordered from Apple as the zip drive has the official green translucent cover! I also end up bought that internal drive for reading them at home. I had forgotten about that internal drive until this video popped into my recommendation!
@mjouwbuis
@mjouwbuis 4 жыл бұрын
@@OutdoorsWithShawn until they got ruined by the same defective drive... You lucked out :)
@cieludbjrg4706
@cieludbjrg4706 4 жыл бұрын
@@OutdoorsWithShawn That’s why you should *always* backup, backcup and backup. :) Enough scare stories about people losing book manuscripts or master thesises due to the harddisk dying or the computer getting stolen.
@OutdoorsWithShawn
@OutdoorsWithShawn 4 жыл бұрын
@@cieludbjrg4706 this was before it was well known about the click of death. Once we knee more about it, we had back ups.
@the_derpler
@the_derpler 4 жыл бұрын
I loved these things. Back in high school my friends and I would trade software on stacks of 15+ 3.5 formatted AOL floppies held together with rubber bands. Zip drives changed our lives.
@swallowedinthesea11
@swallowedinthesea11 10 ай бұрын
Kind of like Pokemon cards except you felt cooler with those disks!
@stars_overhead
@stars_overhead 6 жыл бұрын
When I was in college, zip discs were a requirement. My college had made a deal with a computer company and there were zip drives in every college-owned computer. I got used to them in a hurry, and honestly, for quick data transfer, they were awesome. They didn't have the wait time of burning a CD, and USB was still pretty new back then, and unreliable. I loved my zip drives. My desktop had an internal. My mom's computer had a SCSI. What I loved about almost every single external zip drive was the eject button. Those things could shoot a disc across the room and hurt somebody. It was hilarious.
@VideoCesar07
@VideoCesar07 5 жыл бұрын
Damn I miss those times. I remember feeling so jealous when they first came out and a 3.5 1.2MB drive was the best drive I had. When I finally bought one I went crazy copying all sorts of programs, files, games, music. Then again WAV files were ridiculously large. Learned the hard way about the eject button when it shot out and spilled my soda can over me.
@mikemurphy5898
@mikemurphy5898 5 жыл бұрын
I had completely forgotten about the eject button!
@lesleymunro4964
@lesleymunro4964 5 жыл бұрын
@@VideoCesar07 Are you sure it was a 3.5" Floppy? The old 5 1/4" disks went up to 1.2 MB in high density mode. the 3.5's did 1.44MB in high density mode, and they did a 2.88MB drive in that size too, but I think it was expensive, and didn't gain traction. I remember using programs back in the day to do custom formats to disks, which increased the capacity, and sometimes let you use a couple of extra tracks (80-82,83), and more sectors per track to squeeze more data in. It was drive and media dependent, but you could usually squeeze a little more data in. I think I got up to 1.5MB in some cases on 5 1/4 disks.
@VideoCesar07
@VideoCesar07 5 жыл бұрын
@@lesleymunro4964 I stand corrected. It's been sooooooo long. Your numbers are correct. When the 3.5s came out it was a great jump forward to the 2.88 capacity but still a bit hindered...until I discovered zip files and later on, the ability to split them into multiple smaller files. Crazy to think that today a multi-gig file can be shared via broadband when a 10MB file was considered large at the time. Now I feel I missed out since I never got to use the custom formats.
@AtomicAJ74
@AtomicAJ74 5 жыл бұрын
I forgot the force those drives would eject with. They would spit clean out of the drive!
@silmarian
@silmarian 7 жыл бұрын
Not only was the click of death awful, but it was contagious. A ZIP disk that went through a bad drive could, and often did, break the replacement drive. I saw it all the time when working support for a company that used them in their stores for backup.
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
Ouch.
@maciejpociecha6357
@maciejpociecha6357 7 жыл бұрын
Having worked in the same field at the same time, I suspect that many of the "contagious" damage was thanks to people attempting to repair their cod disks. Broken hinges, stuff shoved into the case to "clean" the heads, the myth that you could fix it with a sharp rap against the edge of the table... Of course, they never would admit it, but we knew, we knew...
@anobservr
@anobservr 7 жыл бұрын
I literally just encountered the click of death and bad disk killing zip drives problem this past week! I had used zip disks to backup my high school files in the mid 90s. I recently found the disks again but didn't have the drive. So I bought a used zip drive usb. I was able to recover one disk, but then it couldn't read one of the other disks. Strangely, I found that the same drive suddenly couldn't re-read the first disk it had successfully read. So I thought the used zip drive had suddenly crapped out. So then I decided to go on eBay and buy a new in box zip 100 usb drive. The good disk read no problem. Once i got to the second disk however, the drive couldn't read it, and then failed to read the good disk also. There was an obvious clicking noise coming from both the used and new drives. A Google search later, I discovered the click of death and bad disks killing good drives issue which I hadn't known about. So I had just wasted two good zip drives just trying to recover my high school data with no success. Argh! Anyway, awesome episode of LGR Oddware as usual, Clint!
@SlowPCGaming1
@SlowPCGaming1 Жыл бұрын
@@anobservr I wonder if data recovery services could save your data to a hard drive or USB Flash Drive?
@themetadaemon
@themetadaemon Жыл бұрын
The best part of owning a zip drive is finding it 20 years later, having it work, and enjoying the time warp back to the late 90's.
@rickkaylor8554
@rickkaylor8554 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this great video and bringing back many memories. I was on the Zip Drive design committee and was the Technical Support Manager at Iomega at that time for 5 years. Previously I'd been a field sales engineer for 5 years with Iomega starting when they had the 8 inch 10Mb Bernoulli drives. My staff in Technical Support came up with the idea of having a window on the Zip drive. I had a pile of Zip and Bernoulli drives and disks that I kept for years. I posted them on Craig's List and got ZERO responses for anyone wanting to buy them. After a few weeks of posting with no results, I just threw them all in the trash. All of my Bernoulli and Zip data fit on one flash drive thus explaining why the technology became obsolete.
@SlowPCGaming1
@SlowPCGaming1 Жыл бұрын
I never buy from Craig's List. They've earned a really bad reputation. If you couldn't sell 'em you could've donated them to a computer tech museum (like the one in Boston), Good Will or other thrift store, etc. Such a waste to throw out old tech like that.
@TuNnL
@TuNnL Жыл бұрын
@@SlowPCGaming1 Considering how much sh!t I saved on Iomega Zip disks in college, I have to agree with this. I don't know about Bernoulli, but had Rick Kaylor sold his surplus Zip disks and drives (if brand new) on eBay rather than craigslist, he would have made a bundle. There are still many eBay listings for Zip disks and drives today, and while I couldn't care less about the 100 or 250 mb models, the harder to find 750 mb model is still useful, yet backwards compatible with the smaller capacity disks. I was editor of my college newspaper, and delivered the finished product to the on-campus printing press via Zip disk. This KZfaqr decided not to review Iomega Jaz drives, but the media on those could store 1 GB and 2 GB disks, and all the commercial art students swore by them. 💁🏻‍♂️💾 🏆
@SkiBumMSP
@SkiBumMSP Жыл бұрын
@@TuNnL I remember the Jaz drives. I used to use those at work at the time. 1 GB on a disk was like "wow", considering my computer at the time only had about 750 meg hard drive. Anybody remember the SyJet drives that SyQuest put out around the same time? Those held about 1.5 GB. I still have one and at least 2 disks (maybe three). I will have to dig that thing out and see if it still works.
@grumbel45
@grumbel45 7 жыл бұрын
Random aside: Those decade old Zip disks are still four times larger than the maximum size allowed for an email on Gmail (25MB). Email really hasn't kept up with the rest of technological evolution.
@eIucidate
@eIucidate 7 жыл бұрын
Grumbel Although the total free storage space has increased significantly. I seem to remember Hotmail only allowed 20MB email storage for your whole inbox unless you upgraded to a paid plan.
@eIucidate
@eIucidate 7 жыл бұрын
Democritus86 But that reasoning was made all the more redundant when those same providers launched their cloud storage services, and even give you the option to provide a sharing link to, for example, a OneDrive or Google Drive file, whilst composing an email.
@iAmTheSquidThing
@iAmTheSquidThing 7 жыл бұрын
Though I'd argue though that email shouldn't really be used for file transfer anyway. That's what things like FTP and WebDAV are meant for.
@djorgen104
@djorgen104 7 жыл бұрын
That's because of all the dingbats that insist on just leaving files attached to emails for some nebulous later date. I've watched email space be increased and decreased repeatedly over the last 20 years.
@9peppe
@9peppe 7 жыл бұрын
Email is not designed nor supposed to do that. HTML email is bad enough.
@MikeySaysGo
@MikeySaysGo 7 жыл бұрын
I still have one of these. My old RuneScape accounts and passwords are stored on one with some Slipknot songs. Good times.
@Rudofaux
@Rudofaux 7 жыл бұрын
click click click click
@elijahthornton525
@elijahthornton525 7 жыл бұрын
Rudofaux hahahah fr
@codfury
@codfury 7 жыл бұрын
I still have mine too! kept all the backups on these
@puukko68
@puukko68 7 жыл бұрын
Still got my ZIP 100 drive in a carrycase designed for the drive, powersupply, cable and 3 discs.
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 7 жыл бұрын
My parents have had one, lovingly stored in its original box in a closet for the last 20 years, that my Dad is still pissed off about buying and every now and then mentions like it's still a relevant technology. Case in point, last summer when I told them to get a 5TB USB drive to back up all of their machines. Dad asked why he couldn't use "that drive thing you made me buy" to do it... Pretty much every time something better came along I have had to explain why it was no longer relevant. USB sticks, flash cards, CD-Rs, DVD-Rs, USB hard drives, BD-Rs, etc, etc... Dad is still holding on to the dream and still pissed about the $200 that only was viable for about 2 years.
@justaman5490
@justaman5490 4 жыл бұрын
When my computer crashed the 3.5 years of business data entry restored from my Zip Drive was worth having it back in the day.
@tomypower4898
@tomypower4898 4 жыл бұрын
Just A Man Yesbody a Bernie Bro company
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 3 жыл бұрын
My Zip drive would have been worth having if the backup disk hadn't somehow corrupted itself almost instantly, in safe storage & with almost zero use lol
@justaman5490
@justaman5490 3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaZeta I backed up after every time I finished entering data on a daily basis. I backing it up twice on two different discs. I also replaced the discs after a year of use. Never had one fail. Ironically, my first flash drive took a lot of personal data with it when it decided it was no longer formatted on the short side of being a year old. It was "solid state" I thought all these original single copies will be safe. Bad idea.🤦‍♂️
@pflaffik
@pflaffik 3 жыл бұрын
There were other backup options, it wasnt the zip drive that saved your data, it was the backup media.
@justaman5490
@justaman5490 3 жыл бұрын
@@pflaffik If it was on a Zip Drive, then in fact it's the Zip Drive that held the data. The fact is I restored my data from a Zip Drive. The fact of how you're backing up data has nothing to do with the fact it is important to back up data. The reality is a Zip Drive served me well. Thanks for your circular logic that serves no one for anything.
@Dannyheal
@Dannyheal 3 жыл бұрын
These were so necessary as an artist. We used them until the early 2ks.
@Absquatula
@Absquatula 7 жыл бұрын
13:31 That transition! I loved it! I went to lean in closer to see better and the capture footage zoomed in my face. Been a while since I've been pleasantly startled. =D
@aajrz12
@aajrz12 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was pretty neat.
@PCReboot
@PCReboot 7 жыл бұрын
Was epic! Top work Clint!
@CIubDuck
@CIubDuck 7 жыл бұрын
It was so seamless that I didn't even notice it haha
@joes2857
@joes2857 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that was pretty slick myself! Immediately scrolled down into the comments when I saw that lol.
@fuyingbro
@fuyingbro 7 жыл бұрын
OMG I was actually on the r&d team on designing the zip and jazz drives. Here was the thing. iOmega came to our marketing class and asked out to come up with a design. The iOmega office was only like 2 miles from the high school. The high school had college classes from Weber University as electives for Roy High School. I was just lucky enough to be taking many college credit classes and was included in the team. Oh memories.
@adenowirus
@adenowirus 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I remember reading that Fitch did a lot of design work for iomega, but I couldn't find much more info about it.
@TheRogueMonk
@TheRogueMonk 7 жыл бұрын
FuYing Bro well it was crap all of ours and friends broke ripp off
@fuyingbro
@fuyingbro 7 жыл бұрын
Shadow Heart​ oh I am sure it was. I mean yea I was a programmer at the time and was making my own games, and I was also taking engineering work with cad, but they came to our marketing class to figure out a case design. I mean who the hell does that. They were not the only company. Coke came to us on testing their new plastic bottle design. And some other company came to us for repurposing and building block design that was found to be a major chocking hazard. We were in marketing, not design. It was insanity.
@Phoenixesper1
@Phoenixesper1 7 жыл бұрын
I would personally like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping bring this into the world. Without you I might have had to store my early internet downloaded porn on thousands of floppy disks! But thanks to you 3 years worth of porn fit on 1 disk! Because back then there was literally only 100 megs of porn online! lol
@fuyingbro
@fuyingbro 7 жыл бұрын
Phoenixesper1 all I did was help with with what the end product would look like
@mitchellschoenbrun
@mitchellschoenbrun Жыл бұрын
I got involved with Iomega in their Bernoulli Box days. I wrote and sold a driver for the Bernoulli Box for the QNX operating system, now owned by BlackBerry. When the Zip 100 come along I wrote drivers for both the SCSI and Parallel Port versions. The Parallel Port version was just a Parallel Port interface in front of SCSI. They were a really good technology at the time.
@Buttface1981
@Buttface1981 3 жыл бұрын
I remember going to college and seeing some students using these instead of the standard 3.5" floppy. I was so jealous. A whole 100MB!
@MilanorTSW200
@MilanorTSW200 7 жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt my comment will be seen anymore, but the latest driver for the LPT ZIP drive includes a program called "Parallel Port Accelerator", that signficantly improves the LPT ZIP drive speeds on both reading and writing. I would recommend checking that out.
@jussapitka6041
@jussapitka6041 6 жыл бұрын
MilanorTSW200 It just seems that it copied already but keeps copying in the backround
@Private27281
@Private27281 6 жыл бұрын
Replying to give this more weight with the algorithm
@drowningin
@drowningin 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally I can back up my porn with more regularity
@dovesveins333
@dovesveins333 5 жыл бұрын
@@MisterRorschach90 p sure that was a joke and u just got r/wooooshed
@rogvelsan
@rogvelsan 4 жыл бұрын
That software enabled full use of Bi-directional function on ports that supported the protocol, not all did.
@GymbalLock
@GymbalLock 7 жыл бұрын
My G4 Mac had a built-in Zip drive. I also had a SCSI for my PowerMac and a USB drive. The worst part of the Click of Death was it would spread; If a disk got the CoD, it had to be destroyed. If the disk was put into a different drive, that drive would get the CoD. Any disk put in a CoD-affected drive would also get the CoD. It was the bubonic plague of floppy storage.
@AlexanderBogdanow
@AlexanderBogdanow 5 жыл бұрын
@EJ Taylor Which reminds me to play the Ezio Trilogy again. ;)
@kmickCSX
@kmickCSX 5 жыл бұрын
bubonic plague  lolwut
@gwgux
@gwgux 4 жыл бұрын
I remember having a love/hate relationship with Zip drives. When they worked, I thought they were great, when they failed (usually the external parallel drives) it was pretty aggravating especially considering the data loss. The internal drives were much more reliable (at least for me).
@TuNnL
@TuNnL Жыл бұрын
It's so irritating that Apple never included anything higher than 100 mb in their internal Zip drives, though. Had the PowerMacs offered that, I might have had a reason to buy it rather than a MacBook Pro, which died on me after just seven and a half years. In the post-pandemic era, I'm at the point where a 2010-12 Mac Pro desktop actually makes more sense from a value standpoint than buying a whole new MacBook Pro. Other than 100 mb and 250 mb, I couldn't find any NIB internal Iomega internal drives online, so if I get one for nostalgia it will have to be external. 💁🏻‍♂️💾
@TechyBen
@TechyBen 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the click of death on every one of these I saw... "Also used in aircraft navigation systems"... we are all gonna die!
@Unsound_advice
@Unsound_advice 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe just be very late, or cause an international incident.
@aris95
@aris95 Жыл бұрын
I have two 100mb scsi zips for my classic macs and not a single click of death
@WritersOnTheWall
@WritersOnTheWall 7 жыл бұрын
i was in art school when zip drive came out, it was like a miracle. we all thought it was the future and 2 years later it was gone
@FinalBaton
@FinalBaton 7 жыл бұрын
lol same|! I was in animation school and we used them during my degree (4 years) but right after I graduated, the school had dropped them
@WritersOnTheWall
@WritersOnTheWall 7 жыл бұрын
I went to F. I. T. for illustration, i thought i was going to become a comic artist. i dropped out after a teacher stole my friends assignment for an ad campaign. shortly after another friend who "Made it" confided in me after her gallery showing in Manhattan that she just wanted to marry someone and buy curtains and salad bowls all day ... heartbroken i became a manager at a hardware store and now I'm a stay at home dad. wahmp wahmp but i wouldn't change a thing
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same here. The local university (which I later attended) installed them in 1996 and I used to cruise over there to download warez out of my T3 shell account and take them back home. When I started attending that school in 1999 most of the labs had discontinued them and by 2000 they were flat out gone entirely. Weirdly enough, floppy disks remained supported through the rest of my degree program, which I completed in 2006.
@FinalBaton
@FinalBaton 7 жыл бұрын
+WritersOnTheWall That teacher is shady as fuck. Damn... some people really don't have shame. Yes making a good living out of freelance illustration is extremely though, not many people make it and it's not for everyone either
@neoasura
@neoasura 7 жыл бұрын
Lol, same as the rest here! We were all required to have zip disks for our art class photoshop projects back in the late 90s.. I liked them for what they did back then.
@clarky23
@clarky23 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a former printer and I can say the reason manufacturers started using the folded manual format is because it is cheaper to just print and fold a piece of paper than to fold, trim, and staple (actually is stitching, not staples) the manual. They could end up saving up to 5 - 6 cents per manual and with the volume they needed, could end up saving tens of thousands of dollars in production. Also I remember when zip disks were THE format companies and designers used when submitting their print projects, mainly for the storage capacity. It got to the point we had to put a return disk fee onto the disks so people could get them back.
@abshassan
@abshassan 5 жыл бұрын
As someone that works in the printing industry. I can confirm this
@RS250Squid
@RS250Squid 5 жыл бұрын
When I read "I'm a former printer" I wondered if your comment was a story about how you evolved into an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax/copier over time or something.
@ikannunaplays
@ikannunaplays 4 жыл бұрын
@Max William Lauf I can confirm this also, it was the format we used as the disk were cheaper to ship than other media at the time and it was quick (relatively) to get data onto and off them. We had a kid that would run the disks between the studio and print house all day long, just running disks back and fourth.
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell 4 жыл бұрын
A former printer? What did you run out of ink? 😂😂😂
@wreckingpress7080
@wreckingpress7080 4 жыл бұрын
As a graphic design student in the early 2000s these were a regular staple. $30 for 3 disks as opposed to $30 for a 128 mb usb flash drive.
@michaelpratt3058
@michaelpratt3058 4 жыл бұрын
I love this video. I was an original Iomega tech support rep during the ""Click of Death" time period. Such fun!!
@JonnyDKUK
@JonnyDKUK 4 жыл бұрын
I remember these well - started with a parallel PC one, upgraded to the transparent blue USB version and then moved on. I remember working in my first design studio that had an ‘internal’ Zip drive fitted in a Mac - it was even colour coded to the Mac (cream) instead of a floppy drive - felt like the future! Remember the funky colour disks too - good times (until the click of death!)
@Firthy2002
@Firthy2002 5 жыл бұрын
I'd feel bad for anyone who moved up from a Zip 100/250 to a 750 and discovering that their old 100 disks couldn't be read on it.
@TheBashar327
@TheBashar327 4 жыл бұрын
That was the shock of a lifetime when our company bought the first batch or 750MB drives. No one imagined they'd not be backwards compatible.
@lyon406
@lyon406 4 жыл бұрын
Then I found out that my backup that I placed on ZIP drive discs could not be read when I changed computers and the newer 750 drive.. 22 Paper weight discs.
@romulusnr
@romulusnr 4 жыл бұрын
I think that was a big cause of their downfall
@nucflashevent
@nucflashevent 4 жыл бұрын
@@romulusnr I think by the 750, it was already all over but the crying 😎
@scaper8
@scaper8 4 жыл бұрын
@@nucflashevent There was likely no way to save it at that point, but basic backwards compatibility would have given them a few more years of viability. In the long run, nothing much; but it expedited the demise.
@BurkeyAcademy
@BurkeyAcademy 6 жыл бұрын
FYI: There is a hole on the back that you can stick a paper clip in to eject the disk with no power- similar to the ones on the front of CD drives, but takes very little pressure.
@romulusnr
@romulusnr 4 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid to watch the video based on some of the corrections people are posting. Sad
@MrReese
@MrReese 2 жыл бұрын
I remember always wanting such an Iomega ZIP drive when I saw it in the stores. I used to back up stuff onto 3.5" floppies and then years later burning them onto CDs, but that CD burner was veeeery expensive in the year 2000 :D. 18:21 when you use the google website stopwatch instead of the built-in one of your clock :D
@markjsound
@markjsound 4 жыл бұрын
I had a SCSI one. Real fun installing the SCSI card too
@rubensimkins3283
@rubensimkins3283 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too, I buyed scsi card specially for the Zip drive hoping it would be faster and better, idiot of me spending more money to throw it to the trash years later having given so little use
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot 3 жыл бұрын
SCSI was this strange, pro technology that was too good for the likes of us meagre IDE users.
@johnklumpp7901
@johnklumpp7901 3 жыл бұрын
@@FatNorthernBigot - SCSI (at the peak, I had two SCSI adapters in the one CBM A2000 060) enabled me to run some 4-to-6 HDDs, plus a SCSI H.P. Scanjet 4c. I usually had either a tower case for the extra drives, or an old Honeywell-Bull 386 case, with the HD access lamps made visible by drilling small holes through the case front panel, and pushing in plastic bezels. Each drive required setting a separate ID Address by jumpers.
@AspirationHD
@AspirationHD 7 жыл бұрын
I had an internal Zip drive installed on my computer in the late 90's. I thought these things were great. I couldn't believe they had not overtaken floppy discs. I never had any problem with the drive or any Zip Disk's I bought. Thanks for the memories.
@Starcrunch72
@Starcrunch72 7 жыл бұрын
Same here, used it for backups until a 100 count cake box of CD-Rs dropped to $20 and the burners were stable at 40x speed...then the ZIP disks were bye bye. But glad to see you showing the Akai MPC-3000 which had SCSI on it to expand sample storage and off load sequences.
@thatwasprettyneat
@thatwasprettyneat 7 жыл бұрын
i found this difficult to watch because he kept speaking in a derisive tone about zip disks, sort of like they were a useless fad or something
@TroyBrophy
@TroyBrophy 7 жыл бұрын
Bought a Mac G4 (Sawtooth) with the internal Zip drive pre-installed from Apple (probably 2000). At some point I should really make a point of checking out what files I stored on those disks.
@SirRobertDole2
@SirRobertDole2 7 жыл бұрын
I used to have a ton of 100 and 250mb zip disks and eventually most of them stopped being able to be read by both the built-in and the external zip drive i had. not sure if all the disks failed or both drives failed, but there were certainly some quality issues.
@kylethestyle
@kylethestyle 7 жыл бұрын
Same. Our family Compaq Presario computer had an internal zip drive. Each member of the family had their own zip100 disk to put whatever he wanted on it. That was a lot of storage space in 1998!
@BvousBrainSystems
@BvousBrainSystems 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't see that the video was 20+ minutes long, and I ended up watching it all without even realizing it. Good content.
@AdamVelazquezVA
@AdamVelazquezVA 7 жыл бұрын
BvousBrainSystems haha same
@aheffner2
@aheffner2 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when these came out, and they were extremely useful. Hard drive space was precious and expensive to upgrade, and moving data from your computer to a friend's computer was extremely difficult without some sort of larger media, not to mention for small businesses and home users to do backups with (these were supported in most all programs at the time). There was also a large difference in running on your parallel port depending on how you had your port set (SPP vs EPP and ECP modes). The 750MB drive could read and write 250MB and 750MB disks, but could only read the 100MB disks (if I'm remembering correctly).
@oso_Peligroso
@oso_Peligroso 4 жыл бұрын
I swear, this channel is totally getting me through this quarantine! I've never enjoyed working from home (too many distractions) but this channel helps. A LOT! I have a thing for vintage 3D software so anything 3D is awesome! FYI - I had the carry case for my Zip drive. You bet your ass I felt like like a gangsta!
@rebelyell1983x
@rebelyell1983x 5 жыл бұрын
USB killed the Zip Disk Star.
@UltimateMTB
@UltimateMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for combining 2 things from my childhood into a single comment
@bjarkih1977
@bjarkih1977 4 жыл бұрын
And cheaper writeble CD's
@bigweez178
@bigweez178 4 жыл бұрын
Somethings are best kept off cloud. USB won't go away. Atleast I hope not.
@57thStIncident
@57thStIncident 4 жыл бұрын
Not really, USB and plug-n-play made the Zip drive better. Mostly made obsolete by cheaper & more reliable CD-R, larger & cheaper hard disks, and increasing use of networking/internet/e-mail for file transfer. Flash memory sticks were more the last nail in the coffin. When these first came out they were really a godsend.
@deldia
@deldia 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely wasn’t USB that killed it. It made it way better.
@ion-shivs
@ion-shivs 6 жыл бұрын
The zip drive came out just as I was starting art/design college. I used them all the way through college until they went obsolete. At the time they were the only viable option for carrying around and copying large-ish graphics files. Much more handy than burning a CD.
@tomypower4898
@tomypower4898 4 жыл бұрын
Ion-SHIVs Yes change to browse picture
@tsal4379
@tsal4379 4 жыл бұрын
It was mandatory to use these when i was in college lol they had a vending machine with the zip disks (back in 00-03)
@moderatesunited
@moderatesunited 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this. My computer tech teacher in Junior High was so excited to have one of those. At the time I thought it was so cool.
@ElRicardoMan
@ElRicardoMan 7 жыл бұрын
"I found this at Goodwill like this." I'm jealous of your second-hand stores. Ours suck. XD
@ElRicardoMan
@ElRicardoMan 7 жыл бұрын
What a bummer. I liked going in and seeing some old stereos and keyboards and monitors and such. :(
@ccricers
@ccricers 7 жыл бұрын
I thought one of my local thrift outlets was lame till one day it got stocked with LOADS of electronics, like they were spilling into the floor. Never saw so many LCD monitors there, but they were not something I need at the time
@packerfan10
@packerfan10 7 жыл бұрын
They just downed the electrics isle at my local one by a lot and replaced it with blanket and sheets isle.
@max2082
@max2082 7 жыл бұрын
I saw a Mac G4 tower at a second hand story one time. They were selling it for one hundred dollars I was tempted.
@brandonpittman5990
@brandonpittman5990 7 жыл бұрын
I recently moved and my parents were deciding on two homes and my dad made the final choice on the one im in now simply because it's goodwill had better stuff. He figured that the niceness of the things that are donated show how good the neighborhood is
@TfearWasHere
@TfearWasHere 4 жыл бұрын
I kept my games and porn on ZIP disks when I was 13. Good times, it was as large as the HDD on my computer, so it was like having a whole other computer for myself.
@TuNnL
@TuNnL Жыл бұрын
When I was in community college, I edited the school newspaper and operated out of a "student media group." We oddly had a position called "systems administrator" as in the mid to late 1990s, there were apparently still a shocking number of computer illiterate students (including the editor-in-chief I replaced). That systems admin guy apparently was used to this idea, and had been hoarding zip disks to store all of his porn collection. Me and Cynthia, my photographer were an ambitious team burning through these disks fast, and when we started running low, we ransacked the place looking for the surplus. Low and behold, we found stacks of unlabeled disks. And when we tested them out, they all had folders named "A," "B," "C," and all the way down the alphabet. The letters represented all porn images and videos which had names beginning with "A," or "B" or "C," etc. Needless to say, there were only just over a dozen Zip disks, but we later found out the guy had the rest of them at home for "evaluation purposes." 👏🍆 💦
@Vel_Plays_2.0
@Vel_Plays_2.0 Жыл бұрын
@@TuNnL Based.
@swallowedinthesea11
@swallowedinthesea11 10 ай бұрын
You could have made some dough selling disks in school!
@4ampaul
@4ampaul 4 жыл бұрын
The ZipCD was the first CD-R drive we ever had. I still have it and an Imation 120mb floptical drive in the attic
@RobertBarton86
@RobertBarton86 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the SCSI version of this drive of off ebay when I was 12. I remember saving up for it, and was so excited when I was able to buy it. It drastically increased the storage capabilities of the Mac OS 6 I was relying on back then. Crazy how far we've come since then.
@Henchman1977
@Henchman1977 7 жыл бұрын
When Zip Disks first came out they were ground breaking.... Nothing else was available that could move that amount of data that quickly or easily. Because the drive was portable and easy to setup on PC or MAC it wasn't a limitation that the other computer didn't have the drive. Even in the early days or CDR these were still easier to use... Early PC CDR was very hit and miss in terms of compatibility between various media and drives... Plus CDR was slow!
@turbochop3300
@turbochop3300 7 жыл бұрын
Hit and miss is RIGHT! I remember when we got our first cd burner; my brother was copying pictures for a friend, and when I walked in the room he winced a little, "Don't stomp around so much, I'm burning a disk."
@soundguydon
@soundguydon 7 жыл бұрын
Yup! I remember making a lot of coasters when burners first came out. Using a burner in college, the blanks (in the college book store) were 14.99 each. I remember, because I also remember writing the disk in 2x, and thinking "good god.. can it go that fast without making another coaster?! 15 freaking bucks here!"
@theastrogamer710
@theastrogamer710 7 жыл бұрын
Dont mean to be a grammar nazi but it is disc not disk.
@turbochop3300
@turbochop3300 7 жыл бұрын
Astro Gamer to the Rescue! Thank you so much! When I typed the comment i thought to myself "Crap, is it disc or disk? Whatever, I got a 50/50 shot and if it's wrong I'm sure someone will call me out on it"
@theastrogamer710
@theastrogamer710 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah disc means cd and dvd while disk means floppy disk and hard disk.
@BartBe
@BartBe 7 жыл бұрын
5 sec turned several minutes... no wonder the 90's seemed to last forever.
@celebratelife865
@celebratelife865 Ай бұрын
13:43 - These types of video introductions from the 1990s are so fun to watch. I have to watch them when I find them. Such a vibe!
@J-Dawg81
@J-Dawg81 3 жыл бұрын
"Its newness has worn off over the years" The brutal yet inevitable entropy of the universe
@marekcagan6309
@marekcagan6309 2 жыл бұрын
You are my kind of a person ❤
@YourComputerExpert
@YourComputerExpert 7 жыл бұрын
That zoom into screen effect is so cool
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 7 жыл бұрын
I loved my Parallel Zip drive! I had a little case and would ride my bike to friends places and copy games. 100 MB was quite substantial back on those days and the parallel interface was super easy to use.
@apairofheadphones8076
@apairofheadphones8076 6 жыл бұрын
PhilsComputerLab I
@chouseification
@chouseification 6 жыл бұрын
SCSI for the win (of the original two models). Several friends and I all bought Zip drives when they first came out, but for some reason they got the parallel ones... one buddy quickly realized his mistake and swapped it for the SCSI version while the store still would let him. The difference between the two models, especially back, then was truly astonishing. The parallel port one behaved as an awesome tape backup drive should have (without all of the whirring noises, rewinding and tensioning the tape, etc lmao those things sucked so much) but was too slow to use as a hard disk. The SCSI one was a baby hard disk. I spent most of my time on Sun Unix and Dos/Windoze back then, but quite a bit on Mac too doing scanning work and similar. All of those PowerPC Macs they had on campus at the time were running a few OS versions behind the current, and also had Extensions up the wazoo loading on boot. The neat thing was they all had a SCSI port on the back, so I could just plug in. They even had a few Zip drives in the lab too, but I had my own so that lived in a little carrying case with room for my important dozen or so disks, the brick and the SCSI cord. So I set up a few Zip disks as Mac-boot drives; you just reboot the Mac and hold down a funny four button combo and it forced the machine to boot from external SCSI devices... so I would be sitting there in the lab running the most up to date OS version with only the extensions I needed loaded - using RamDoubler and all sorts of fun tools - and still had access to the Lab server so I could use PhotoShop and the other toys; I could mount my Aufs volume (data stored on my unix account) too for fun and games. Let me also say... Marathon came out around then ^^ muhahaha. Zip disk (SCSI) was amazing. But hey, even the slow parallel port one was pretty sweet!
@rockettaco
@rockettaco 5 жыл бұрын
Don't copy that floppy! 😋
@SynZ777
@SynZ777 5 жыл бұрын
Back when piracy was really fucking easy. Good times.
@kevin-jd5rj
@kevin-jd5rj Ай бұрын
I'm an archivist for a museum, and I've got to digitize some zip disks 😅 your video is super helpful and informative, thank you 6 years on 🙇
@byronmclaggan3443
@byronmclaggan3443 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh you are so thorough. I was wondering if you were going to being up .zip vs ZIP, and you went a step further and name dropped the person who designed .zip. Bravo. 👏🏻
@Gwolo
@Gwolo 7 жыл бұрын
I remember drooling over a 750mb zip disk in my old pc hardware shop, back when my 95 pc had a 500 mb harddrive. I wished I could store so much more stuff. (ie: Boobs)
@rodneykingston6420
@rodneykingston6420 7 жыл бұрын
heh, heh. Reminds me, around 2004 I was at Wal-mart buying a 500 gig external hard drive and a new 500 gig internal hard drive and the kid working the cash register was clearly from some deep African country and he was amazed at how much storage was suddenly available (well, so was I) so cheaply and he says to me, "Why you need so much space?" and I looked right at him and said (duh) "Porn!" and for a second he looked at me in shock and then threw his head back and began laughing and I thought it was funny because he was probably brought to America by some Christian church and maybe he actually thought I was kidding...
@camelCased
@camelCased 7 жыл бұрын
Ha, I guess I was lucky, porn has never aroused me (just seemed too artificial and aggressive), so I had no reason to fill my precious megabytes with that stuff.
@metalmishap
@metalmishap 7 жыл бұрын
Check out amateur porn.
@camelCased
@camelCased 7 жыл бұрын
Have tried, it just does not work when I know that they are doing that for each other and not for me nor with me; and the fact that they are doing it for others to watch causes even some repulsion. I get reaction only when a girl looks into my eyes and clearly shows that she wants me and nobody else, and only when I know that she really means it and is not saying it just out of habit. Also, typical "sexy looks" do not work on me; I enjoy petite, quiet and simple looking girls who definitely are far from top-models. I guess, I'm demisexual :D But that's total off-topic here :D
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 7 жыл бұрын
They actually went up to 1GB sizes back when Zip Disks (brand name) were only hitting 256mb, I use to have eight of the 1GB disks which was hilarious because at the time was more than my 4GB Hard drive at the time which was one of the biggest in 1997
@theonecalledstein
@theonecalledstein 4 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a USB ZIP drive. Excited to try my old Zip disks from college.
@petrosrz8990
@petrosrz8990 3 жыл бұрын
I would do that by myself, just to be safe
@fribigy47
@fribigy47 3 жыл бұрын
hopefully the disks won't self-destruct
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 3 жыл бұрын
Curious to know how this worked out. My experience with Zip drives, albeit as a very early adopter, was that the disks constantly corrupted themselves via cosmic rays or something, meaning, while in safe storage with little use
@theonecalledstein
@theonecalledstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaZeta LOL Very true. I completely forgot about this. Never did find any of my old disks.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this older video of yours (from 2017!) came up as a suggested video, but it brought back some memories! Thanks for sharing.
@experimental0000
@experimental0000 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these installed in the same 3.5" drive bays on PCs, usually those machines had a 56x CD drive, a zip drive, and a 3.5" floppy drive.
@MikeGervasi
@MikeGervasi 7 жыл бұрын
I used to work in a support center in the late 90's for HP and Zip drives. The fail rate was very high for them and the usual trouble call WAS the "click of death"
@jonnlohr53
@jonnlohr53 6 жыл бұрын
How dare you click. HOW DARE YOU!
@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera 6 жыл бұрын
Is exact problems with the hard drives a click of death is a big trouble
@woodywoodverchecker
@woodywoodverchecker 6 жыл бұрын
The drives were not very reliable, but the disks actually were - compared to floppy disks.
@DarkRaptor99
@DarkRaptor99 6 жыл бұрын
They had a class action lawsuit over the click of death
@davidstone1293
@davidstone1293 4 жыл бұрын
I had the internal IDE version and loved it. I remember they were priced much less than the parallel port version and, as you discovered, were Windows plug’n’play devices.
@MrTom-Songwriter-Composer
@MrTom-Songwriter-Composer 4 жыл бұрын
When you put in the "click of death" part in the video... that the part of the video that I was hoping to see. You really know your hardware! Have a great Sunday.
@ChristopherGonzalez1280
@ChristopherGonzalez1280 3 жыл бұрын
Not forgotten at all, it was a godsend when I had my 540MB HDD
@timothydhoke
@timothydhoke 4 жыл бұрын
Takes me back to the early days of Napster, when I used my Zip Drive to download all the music I could want exploiting the faster internet connection of the high school technology lab.
@keithgray5525
@keithgray5525 6 жыл бұрын
I had a portable zip drive when I was in University, it was great for making "backup" copies of games for all my friends.....those were the days.....
@dagglock7615
@dagglock7615 2 жыл бұрын
I have many of these for my vintage computers. I have internal and external and even a CD drive for kicks. These are so nice to use for drivers installments and backing up things.
@pastorclay82
@pastorclay82 4 жыл бұрын
My first job out of high school was working at CompUSA. I'm learning more from your videos then I knew back then.
@Judgeman03
@Judgeman03 6 жыл бұрын
I always felt like in a alternate universe, Nintendo would have reached out to Iomega to make Zip Disks the format for the N64 back in 1996. Even at 100MB it would have been a substantial step up from those original carts (which on average were only 8MB).
@googaagoogaa12345678
@googaagoogaa12345678 6 жыл бұрын
that would have been neat in a way it happened with the 64DD although that was a different technology manufacturer and bombed like crazy
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter 4 жыл бұрын
the point is the games didn't need more than 8MB. And have you seen the state of some of the cartridges? kids dont look after their stuff, i trade a few games and sometimes they were scuffed up and dirty, a zipdisk wouldn't be able to put up with the abuse.the metal cover would be destroyed in a week of buying.
@SImrobert2001
@SImrobert2001 4 жыл бұрын
@@Professional_KZfaq_Commenter They lost the Final fantasy series because they kept the 8 mb cartridge. It wasn't the only one, From what I could understand.
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG 4 жыл бұрын
''You know things are bad when your hot HD disc drive, Red Ring of Death is being compared to the Click of Death''
@kitsunekid16
@kitsunekid16 4 жыл бұрын
@@SImrobert2001 "you kids got that final fantasy on zip drive?"
@Zestence
@Zestence 7 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could make a video showing how to properly maintain an older disk drive? I have some 5¼-inch and newer floppy drives and I'd like to make sure they last as long as possible.
@GradyHouger
@GradyHouger 7 жыл бұрын
that would be really interesting and useful.
@frankschneider6156
@frankschneider6156 7 жыл бұрын
+Zes Although it's probably not what you want, but you might wanna buy a cheap (10 bucks or so) USB-floppy drive and use a floppy imager (eg WinImage or Floppy Image) to create 1.44 mb images from every floppy. So you have a bit-perfect backup up of your stuff that you can eg burn to DVD. The images are portable and can be read independent of any hardware, just in case your hardware breaks down.
@Zestence
@Zestence 7 жыл бұрын
Have you seen a USB 5¼-inch drive anywhere, because I sure haven't. Also this is hardly going to help with my 1986 DOS computer. Also I'm pretty sure you can't make copies of Amiga disks with a regular USB disk drive because Amiga formatted disks are weird and don't work with PCs, like, at all.
@423FGFDFHFHV
@423FGFDFHFHV 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see him make a video where he talks properly but that wood reeqire hin to be sober and stop commuting sodomy with the soldering iron. .
@awilliams1701
@awilliams1701 4 жыл бұрын
I had the fancy USB version. I freaking loved it. I got it because all computers in my college had zip. It was so damn convenient.
@boydpukalo8980
@boydpukalo8980 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered Zip, Jaz, and Rev drives in 2021 after seeing your vid and remembering fond memories of owning a Zip and Jaz drives in college in the mid 90's. Always enjoyed the spin up/writing sound of the Jaz drive. Also had a ditto tape drive. RIP Iomega
@jakebrake5776
@jakebrake5776 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when my dad hooked one of these up and clicked eject the first time. Boom headshot!
@TheLokCheung
@TheLokCheung 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Brake I remember in my art school, there was that one zip drive that eject harder than normal, not only the disk would got shot out some distance, the recoil so strong the whole drive itself knocked backward an inch!
@codyb9522
@codyb9522 4 жыл бұрын
Lok Cheung that is so awesome! Never had a Zip drive that did it that hard. There was one that would “fully” eject a disc if it was vertical.
@merlingt1
@merlingt1 6 жыл бұрын
Kids today don't understand the joy of storing Quake 2 on 80 floppy disks.
@jameskehoe5091
@jameskehoe5091 4 жыл бұрын
Kids today will never know the fun of installing an entire operating system from floppies.
@bwickham195
@bwickham195 4 жыл бұрын
@Dave Shaffer Worst Walkman mixtape ever.
@LevelUp_ErikJ
@LevelUp_ErikJ 4 жыл бұрын
Kids today don't understand the pain of installing Windows 10 on 2,778 floppy disks.
@KarryKarryKarry
@KarryKarryKarry 4 жыл бұрын
Or unzipping Starcraft from 65 floppies, reaching disk #36 and getting crc error. Hours wasted.
@derpinbird1180
@derpinbird1180 4 жыл бұрын
And i thought it was bad when i got gta on 7 dvds. Took me like 4 hours with a usb2 dvd drive
@StarKrossVL
@StarKrossVL 4 жыл бұрын
I may be weird, but I love looking at the bookshelves in the backs of all of LGR videos and seeing how many games, programs, whatever i can recognize. it's just as fun as learning and remembering all the old tech we used to live for as computer geeks.
@hadorstapa
@hadorstapa 3 жыл бұрын
They were so satisfying to use. The chunky, tactile design made them seem so reliable, especially compared to the floppy disk. We had them at work, and even a couple of Jazz drives.
@antowalters
@antowalters 6 жыл бұрын
I had one of these back in the day - the parallel port version too. Although it was slow, it was way way faster than using PKZIP and PKUNZIP to span something large over multiple 1.44MB floppy disks. I loved that zip drive.
@cs188creations
@cs188creations 7 жыл бұрын
When I was in middle school, teachers worshipped these things.
@aleramone23
@aleramone23 7 жыл бұрын
It was cool hardware, i would have killed for one of those, but i was too young and no way my parents will spend 200 + bucks on that thing.
@StefanSreto
@StefanSreto 7 жыл бұрын
We love you CS!
@calvinjenkins6900
@calvinjenkins6900 6 жыл бұрын
Why in the fuck is cs188 here?
@doorhanger9317
@doorhanger9317 6 жыл бұрын
I should imagine they _were_ a godsend with the amount of data teachers have to move around
@Amber_123
@Amber_123 5 жыл бұрын
Never knew that cs watched LGR. I guess now it's canon!?
@MP-nf9qz
@MP-nf9qz 3 жыл бұрын
Still have my drive. I loved these back in the day. Great way to transport large files.
@roachtoasties
@roachtoasties 4 жыл бұрын
Eventually all technology becomes obsolete. Someday KZfaq will be obsolete. While buying 100mb storage today will sound stupid, back when these things were popular 100mb was super-duper-huge, when compared to the 1.44mb floppy.
@karfsma778
@karfsma778 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, the CD-R existed, and they had a 700 MB storage space, so...
@poisonouslead85
@poisonouslead85 4 жыл бұрын
@@karfsma778 Those were write once media. During the peak of the 100mb's popularity, CD-RW drives were expensive and kinda rare. They were also a lot slower than zip drives.
@dr.insaneoiv
@dr.insaneoiv 4 жыл бұрын
Oh please, KZfaq has been obsolete since it was purchased by Google.
@scaper8
@scaper8 4 жыл бұрын
@@dr.insaneoiv You know that you're watching this _on_ KZfaq, right? That it is still, by a _huge_ margin, the most popular vidoe site on the Internet, right? It will become obsolete, and it is likely already headed that way now (spurred in no small part by poor decisions and advertisers-first business strategies from KZfaq management and Google above them), but it is far from obsolete now.
@amagnier
@amagnier 4 жыл бұрын
I was so proud of my zip drive at the time. Used it to download roms for neogeo at the university.
@JohnRineyIII
@JohnRineyIII 7 жыл бұрын
Those things were a godsend when CD-R media still cost 20 bucks a pop, assuming you could afford the burner. I used to leave mine at the computer lab at school overnight, using the campus internet to download the latest Slackware Linux release. Then one sad day, Slackware grew past 100MB...
@3DJapan
@3DJapan 6 жыл бұрын
I recall spending $100 for a CD burner. As soon as I plugged it in there was a firmware update that bricked it.
@sibsbubbles
@sibsbubbles 4 жыл бұрын
These things were pretty cool. The fact that you have one so complete is astounding. At the time, one could dump a lot of stuff onto those. I remember being in middle school when I had one and the little disks. The old media center had one. Just one drive for us all to use but that thing endured and was the older type like you have which definitely says something; especially with us all using and abusing it lol. I remember one more incarnation of those drives near the end which was this little flimsy blue thing...then woosh. Y2K happened, CD burning took off like it needed to, and the end of zip drives came. Good times.
@ronaldpalomeque4132
@ronaldpalomeque4132 3 жыл бұрын
I remember getting the external one for Christmas. Still have it. It looks cool
@porklaser
@porklaser 7 жыл бұрын
These things were an absolute godsend in the early days of DTP where Mac and Quark and Aldus owned the entire industry. The SCSI zip drive was pretty fast for external media (All Macs of that era had SCSI) in it's day and 100 megs meant you could fit your entire publication (and source art/images) on one piece of media. This was before CD-R was available, before high speed internet, and when the most common way of schlepping files around was 1.44 meg floppies. The zip drive was widely available (You could run down to any office or computer store and pick up drives or media), reasonably priced, and for a time you could see those blue boxes in EVERY office alongside the rainbow apple. I stumbled across a box full of drives and media at the office the other day. Gave me a huge nostalgia buzz. Would love to see LS120 episode in the future.. Make sure to get a motherboard from the pentium era that has explicit LS120 support in the bios. :)
@udtknwme
@udtknwme 7 жыл бұрын
porklaser What, you mean unlike the days of Aldus on a Mac SE where you did page layout, printed out all the pieces on 8.5x11, glued them together, proofread from that/sent that along with the file for printing, and hoped it came out alright? And let's not forget the printed photos that had to be paper clipped to the pages with the xerox copies of them pasted (that were cropped with post-it notes and enlarged/reduced using the photocopier) where they were supposed to go on the page. This is how my high school did page layout and what our printer (local newspaper) received from us until 1999. That was the year we received all new Windows 95 machines, a scanner, and internet access in a lab. I immediately pitched the idea of using publisher (included in the OMG copy of office we had) to do the paper, self scan (and crop, correct, etc) photos, and send out a finished file for printing. We won awards on both methods.
@quickdudley
@quickdudley 7 жыл бұрын
In the case of the SCSI Zip drive for mac: there was some software that you could install but you could use the disks without it provided you had the disk inserted before you turned the computer on.
@jeremyfine1464
@jeremyfine1464 7 жыл бұрын
If you were around in those bleeding edge early days you had to be using SyQuest scsi 5.25" drives. and be grateful for 44Mb / disk.
@Pahricida
@Pahricida 6 жыл бұрын
I always see German words popping up with native English speakers recently. Whats the influx? We've been using English words for 30 years in everyday life.
@marybergquist8017
@marybergquist8017 6 жыл бұрын
good to see I'm not totally insane for thinking these were a big mac thing. obviously the IBM world had em too but it seemed like these things were required for mac users for a stretch.
@kazisiddiqui6435
@kazisiddiqui6435 6 жыл бұрын
Can you assemble a machine largely out of oddware components?
@LGR
@LGR 6 жыл бұрын
Y'know, I bet I could. Now that could be fun.
@alessandrobaggi6129
@alessandrobaggi6129 6 жыл бұрын
+Lazy Game Reviews Please do it Clint ;]
@saturn580
@saturn580 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! I wonder what would be worse, its looks or its performance?
@sebbie_gonzo
@sebbie_gonzo 6 жыл бұрын
Lazy Game Reviews I'd love to see a video of such a Franken-PC!
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 6 жыл бұрын
An eMachines pc would be appropriate for the job
@thefirststopher
@thefirststopher 2 жыл бұрын
I bought myself a Zip 100 Internal for Christmas 1997. It was the best for daily backups. Thank you for the memory!
@darkgatheringwfb5759
@darkgatheringwfb5759 2 жыл бұрын
These were awesome. I have the USB version for my iMac in late 90s & really helped me to store files in one place without storing over in multiple floppy disk + compression
@charliericker274
@charliericker274 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the whole zip drive and .zip format confused me a little when I was like 10 years old.
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 жыл бұрын
Figuring out the decompressing thing was a task..
@phatbuddha1
@phatbuddha1 4 жыл бұрын
Early 1990s we were using the Syquest EZ drives in our Graphic Design classes because it held 135MB. Then the Zip drive was getting popular due to cost and some of the Mac G4 could be bought with a built-in drive. Every store was carrying the Zip cartridges and the EZ was harder to find. I still have several stacks of Zip 100 and EZ135 cartridges hanging around at home.
@chrisloUSA
@chrisloUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Man the Zip 100 MB really brings me back, I remember my parents getting one at Costco and having me set it up around 1999-2000 when I was 13. We used it to back up files on the computer, nothing fancy. Funny we had it plugged into a Gateway 2000 PC and it had Altec Lancing speakers just like yours. We had it plugged into the PC for a couple of years and it ended up coming along with us when we moved to another state but it ended up spending about 13 years in the attic taking up space. Last year my dad was cleaning out the attic, he doesn’t like useless stuff taking up space and he trashed it with a bunch of old PC stuff that hasn’t been used in probably 15 years. Seeing it that last time brought back those turn of the century memories of me backing up stuff for my parents around the time I was off from school through Christmas and New Years, even though the tech is long since obsolete and inferior to what I have now it brought back good memories.
@elfedorausado
@elfedorausado 3 жыл бұрын
I still have one exactly like the one in this video, with a trio of Zip disks... love the purple enclosure
@RJSOW
@RJSOW 7 жыл бұрын
I just love your channel man, LGR and 8-bit guy are my favorite old tech channels. Is that the Sony ECMCS3 by the way? I planned to buy that mic and it sound really good.
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yep, I believe that's the mic. I've used it for a couple years now (usually off-camera) and it's pretty good for the price.
@Suralin0
@Suralin0 7 жыл бұрын
I had a Zip drive connected to my family's Mac Performa 637CD when I was a kid. Because it was one of the last of the 680x0 machines, the few games commercially released after that were all geared to require the PowerPC architecture that was being pushed at the time. "Congrats on your new computer, it will never run any new software again!" As a result of that (and the quite limited number of Mac game developers and port specialists), most of the games I played were shareware. Stuff like Ambrosia's lineup, or Realmz, or the Exile games would all fit nicely on a Zip disk (I had 3 disks all to myself, what luxury!). Even with the external SCSI interface it was just fine running these sorts of games.
@orlandokaraoke3002
@orlandokaraoke3002 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend had an ls120 drive. I bought him a new motherboard and processor bundle for his birthday. And during the upgrade build we plugged the power connector to ls120 drive in backwards by mistake. It gave a moan and then died. I felt so bad I bought him a new ls120 drive the next day. The iomega zip was actually how the local university backed up things at the time. My friend also worked part time as a computer lab monitor and assistant at the university. I remember the click of death and his expression when it happened. He was quite good at data recovery helping students recover hours of lost work on flaky storage media. Great video!
@Electronic_hobby
@Electronic_hobby 3 жыл бұрын
I love Iomega zip disks! Unreliability of those is a myth. Good build quality and longevity. Even after so many years mine still works. Many musicians still use those for their music gear like samplers, keyboards and portable recorders.
@DjTonioRoffo
@DjTonioRoffo Жыл бұрын
No they were not a myth. I was working at a wholesale IT reseller in those days, we got a lot of them back, broken with the CoD.
@OzTalksHW
@OzTalksHW 7 жыл бұрын
10,000 Iomega Zip Drives vs 20 T-Rexes please
@larsschothorst521
@larsschothorst521 7 жыл бұрын
OzTalksHW Did not know you like retro tech! hi!
@OzTalksHW
@OzTalksHW 7 жыл бұрын
I love retro tech :) I've done some older hardware on my channel previously. Lazy Game Reviews is pretty specatacular!
@FrankieHiltz
@FrankieHiltz 7 жыл бұрын
Aye :D Nice seeing you here. LGR is such an incredible channel hey? Such a cool dude :p
@larsschothorst521
@larsschothorst521 7 жыл бұрын
Dingleberry Tech Another tech youtuber I'm subscribed too... Is this a meet up?
@FrankieHiltz
@FrankieHiltz 7 жыл бұрын
Aha aye, that's awesome :D Small world on KZfaq apparently :p
@thegreatscode
@thegreatscode 5 жыл бұрын
I still own one! Loved it back in the day. I totally forgot about it. What I loved most, aside from the capacity was that it felt very durable
@architectoverlord9283
@architectoverlord9283 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this video takes me back! Zip drive + those Altec Lansing speakers next to the CRT...
@thewatcher5271
@thewatcher5271 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks For The Trip Down Memory Lane. I Have A-lot Of Old Crap Too But Scrolling Down The Up Next Column, I See You Have A-lot More . . .
@glasscat7003
@glasscat7003 7 жыл бұрын
The videos you make are a true inspiration Clint. I hope you will stay on this platform as much as posible! Oh, and hello from Romania!
@Storm_.
@Storm_. 7 жыл бұрын
I still use SCSI zip drives to transfer files between my Atari machines and my USB based PC zip drive.
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei 4 жыл бұрын
I was working at an advertising agency back then and we were very happy when these things came along. Everything had to be physically delivered to printing houses and newspapers and before this we were using Syquest drives (44MB and 88MB) which were pretty bulky and slow. The sound they made always reminded me of a horse galloping by :) We had 128MB optical drives as well but the discs were much more expensive and, if I recall correctly, slower than Zip.
@KyleFN
@KyleFN Жыл бұрын
Holy crap you got a pristine Zip Drive there. I love these things. My original was a parallel port drive, and I inherited a USB one like 20 years ago. I just love the absolute tactile feel of these drives and disks. I almost got an LS120 drive for a new PC build, back-in-the-day. I could justify its purchase because it also read regular floppy discs.
@Velo1010
@Velo1010 6 жыл бұрын
I love the nostalgic tech ware. Reminds me of being in college. Good times. How times have changed.
@pistool1
@pistool1 6 жыл бұрын
12:26 Notice the red switch of death ie. the PSU voltage selector. Some wiseass guys periodically switched those at school and *kaboom*, one dead PSU and rig achieved :D The Iomega products were a bit rare in Europe. I remember only seeing a couple of times those 250Mb disks in the 2000 or earlier. But soon CD-R and RW took over permanently and after that came USB memory sticks. Oh those were the days... burning one 650Mb disk took something like one hour or so 20 years ago. We were pretty patient back then!
@09yulstube
@09yulstube 7 жыл бұрын
18:01 Did Clint said "Meeseekes"? Well, I gues that would work, as long as you don't need to get two points off of your game
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 7 жыл бұрын
That depends a bit on which Jerry you use. I went with Garcia.
@henkwaardenburg5558
@henkwaardenburg5558 7 жыл бұрын
09yulstube Siërra Upgrade op USB stick 32 gb
@djhaloeight
@djhaloeight Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to find a sealed new in box Mac SCSI version for use with my vintage Macintosh machines. Love it! Was able to recover old pics off a Zip disk I hadn’t been able to use in literally 20 years!
@dr.lexwinter8604
@dr.lexwinter8604 4 жыл бұрын
Zip disks were freakin' amazing when they came out. They aged poorly though. :'( We used to call them chubs, or semi's, because they're not a hard drive and not a floppy. That was mint, definitely looks untouched!
@KentuckyJoe
@KentuckyJoe 6 жыл бұрын
I totally Use to have 4 of these. Over time they have been miss placed or lost but I remember using them. always liked them.
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