Life After Steel in the UK's Most Polluted Town: Rule Britannia

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6 жыл бұрын

In March 2016 the steelworks in Port Talbot, South Wales, were threatened with closure. 700 people were made immediately redundant and reports suggested another 15,000 jobs, in a town of just 45,000, could be affected. Port Talbot was set to become a ghost town.
In the midst of the uncertainty and limbo, a father of four Nigel Hunt - who had already lost his steelworker job of 10 years - begins building a new future with a colourful start-up business, in the most polluted city in the UK. With no investment, or disposable income, the stakes are high but some unexpected turns lead Nigel to a new path, away from the fire and furnace, which he never could have dreamed of.
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@VICE 6 жыл бұрын

In the midst of the uncertainty of career limbo, a father of four Nigel Hunt - who had already lost his steelworker job of 10 years - begins building a new future. *WATCH NEXT:* A tragic South Wales love story of a couple lost to heroin - bit.ly/2aP3MGF

@mickvanderh.2948 6 жыл бұрын

can you guys add translations

@pissypony6994 6 жыл бұрын

can't understand anything they are saying, having CC available in English would be helpful. Here is the summary for everyone else that can't understand whatever language they are speaking: A guy starts selling T-Shirts. And, I have no idea how the Steel Industry, nor pollution is related to that, seems to be a very misleading title.

@henryakpu7962 6 жыл бұрын

cool

@charissailuore532 6 жыл бұрын

Vice, you need subtitles for these people as well, not just for people of color. It's ridiculous that you have subtitles for POC that speak English clearly and fluently, but not for these people who are actually difficult to understand.

@marcl.1346 6 жыл бұрын

Hey VICE, I swear he said he lost his job "10 MONTHS" ago, not 10 years. Please change your information.

@4TheWinQuinn 6 жыл бұрын

The welsh are a hardy bunch, respect from North West England.

@waynekieft4952 5 ай бұрын

My brother was layed off from the steel works! He fell into deep depression and being put on alot of medication! To top it all his failed relationship broke his heart!! He took his life 3 years later at the of of 27!I was on a training scheme with LINK in Swansea when I met Nigel, lovely lad he was. Its quite ironic he's ended up in the clothing buisness, because like myself he was massively into the football casuals scene and loved his clobber with a passion as much as myself, We were both 18 at the time. Haven't seen him for years!In the short time I knew him he was a very motivated inspirational young man with a great passion and drive for his future! Congratulations Nige on being elected for Plaid Cymru! Glad you are doing so well with the shop in Port Talbot along with Pancho and your brand San Portablo! Best wishes mate and I hope the future is good to you! Keep flying mate!!!!All the best Wayne X ps by the way I think Nigel invented the word LUSH! He was always using it😊lol!

@BlueCollar850 5 жыл бұрын

I work at a steel mill here in the US for a major company. I know how these workers feel. This is their livelihoods. Steel making is a hard, dirty and dangerous job. It’s also unpredictable because when consumer spending is down, orders for steel goes down which means potential layoffs or hours cut. We are especially dependent on the auto industry as they are our major customers. The rust belt of the United States has been hard hit for decades. Steel mills, auto plants, coal mines. It’s no wonder drug abuse is high in the rust belt here. This place reminds me of where I’m from minus the mountains. Wish you guys the best.

@anthonynguyen1701 Жыл бұрын

You must be from Indiana since it's flat and in the Midwest, unless you live somewhere near Pittsburgh, Pa

@lisahiggins1876 6 жыл бұрын

Successive governments have failed Port Talbot! Without the steelworks the city and the wider Swansea Bay Area. Would see untold economic and social deprivation, far beyond anything Wales has seen. To say people need to go away and find jobs, fails to understand the job market in Wales. Steel and coal manufacturing played and plays an important part economically. And importantly culturally to the point where it's part of the beating heart of Wales, its soul. The steel workers deserve our respect, it's a matter of survival.

@aenorist2431 6 жыл бұрын

Then give them (the workers) the states money (taxpayers money) directly. If you artificially keep an industry afloat even though it can´t compete, you are just giving it taxpayer money. Why then have some random executive skim half of that welfare off the top and into his swiss account, if you want welfare do it right.

@grizcuz 6 жыл бұрын

Successive governments haven't just failed Port Talbot or South Wales or even Wales. They've failed everywhere in the UK that isn't London or their wealthy friends. It's a government by the rich, for the rich.

@MrMattumbo 6 жыл бұрын

The world is fucked man, at least in regards to heavy industry. If all the competition has already moved to overseas production then there is simply no way a company can afford to keep their's domestic while paying high taxes, facing strict regulation, and high wages.

@grizcuz 6 жыл бұрын

Ae Norist But when part of the problem, if not all of it, is state subsidised Chinese steel flooding and undercutting the market, then it's far from a level playing field. If the UK government helps keep Port Talbot steel works afloat then it would only be replicating what other countries do.

@jonnoMoto 6 жыл бұрын

L Ann the import tariff is 74% as mandated by the EU. But the UK objected to it... and Wales voted to be out of the EU... Edit. I see L Ann has removed their comment about "cheap chinese steel" being the problem. Hmm.

@tjcwelshboy 5 жыл бұрын

No matta what anyone says it was a pleasure growing up in sandfields port talbot. Such a good childhood. Proud to be from here💯

@karenbolton2221 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, that was a rough place. Nice beach though.

@illoyd 6 жыл бұрын

Should do more stuff on South Wales.

@peterr6205 6 жыл бұрын

Tis truly a train derailing in slow-motion. Sadly for its residents, it's not slow enough. Cardiff's already the smack capital of the UK, not long before it's the smack capital of the world. Britain will truly rule again!!

@ganjabiss 6 жыл бұрын

Where did you get this information on Cardiff being the "smack capital" of the UK??

@austi16 6 жыл бұрын

No they shouldn't ... motherfuckers don't even sound like they're speaking English . You have to use captions to know what they're saying lol

@mikesully110 6 жыл бұрын

Cardiff isn't that big with smack compared with Swansea and even Newport. never once in Cardiff have i seen someone openly shooting up yet in the South Wales valleys i have seen it many times

@iwancymrobulgarin 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikesully110 north Wales was the smack capital from what I've heard

@Chris_Jenkins_Wales_Strongest 6 жыл бұрын

Nigel Hunt is as real as it gets, refreshing to see decent journalism by Vice. Nothing played up to the camera, this guy is a great ambassador for the town. He should be mayor. He is for the people of Port Talbot and deserves his pension for his service and commitment. Not like the other crook politicians in it for them selves. Well done Vice you picked the right guy to nightlight the plight of the Steelworkers. I myself am from the town, my father having worked at the plant as a rigger. I know first hand that Nigel's case was unfair dismissal. Bullying in the work place should not be tolerated or brushed under the carpet.

@filterss 6 жыл бұрын

"theve done it on the back" i felt so bad when i heard him say this

@dug553 6 жыл бұрын

We had a huge steelworks in my town it's now a toxic wasteland, progress!

@4TheWinQuinn 6 жыл бұрын

@q11q40 3 жыл бұрын

Redcar I’m guessing

@AlfaFilms1NZ 6 жыл бұрын

Nigel is such a great example of a resilient figure in a community going through tough times. There will be a lot more stories like this in the future as industries are transferred to renewable resources and the like, and this fills me with a lot of hope for the transition that our world will have to undertake to be sustainable

@JOYCEDIVISION 6 жыл бұрын

Well done Shelley and team, great seeing Pancho and his crew, look forward to seeing more like this.

@Democracy-is-non-negotiable 6 жыл бұрын

Falling into molten Iron. No thanks.

@tonicdb 6 жыл бұрын

ruin your day wouldnt it?

@12TylerMcK 6 жыл бұрын

around that shit everyday couldn't even imagine it

@evantokatyan2263 6 жыл бұрын

Better than falling into poverty

@elevatorsinwales9792 3 жыл бұрын

My Uncle was a former worker there, he had his leg sawed off by the train that carries all the steel and stuff.

@Saturnia2014 Жыл бұрын

@@elevatorsinwales9792 Was he compensated for the injury?

@joecramp2987 6 жыл бұрын

Finally some good journalism from vice.

@matt4239 6 жыл бұрын

Joe Cramp 😴

@towedarray7217 6 жыл бұрын

You've got to be kidding, right? Vice is... just... fucking insane lately with the quality of their work. You meant that as a joke, right?

@joecramp2987 6 жыл бұрын

Hochuck Winnebago I agree, this was good though.

@dwaaag 6 жыл бұрын

Did you subscribe a month ago? Vice journalism was brilliant a few years ago. As per usual jumped on the corporate ship with promises of the same and completely changed. A majority of the stuff now is rehashed leftist bullshit. I respect your opinion don't think I don't. Just it seems they have swayed heaps far with VICE news etc.

@pooply3053 6 жыл бұрын

"Finally some journalism that fits my agenda"

@johnc6311 6 жыл бұрын

Ive stayed in port talbot a few times on rugby tours, I know a few people locally salt of the earth lovely people, ive played the green stars had a few pints in the clubhouse a great place such a pity to see these all the best from Limerick,Ireland.

@L33tSkE3t 3 жыл бұрын

I live in Pennsylvania, 45min outside Philadelphia. Pennsylvania used to be the steel capital of the world. You'll find abandoned Mills from Philly to Pittsburgh. Oh and the AT AT walkers were inspired by the cranes for cargo ships at Alameda Naval base in San Francisco.

@commieiamewan 6 жыл бұрын

just like up here in the north east with the pits, shipyards and steelworks. we have not a trace left, how times are a changing.

@4TheWinQuinn 6 жыл бұрын

@jxsilicon9 6 жыл бұрын

CommieIamewan Nobody does. Everything is in China. The new empire.

@dflatt1783 6 жыл бұрын

Industry is booming here in South Carolina (Charleston). Unemployment is sub 4% at the time of this post. The 'factory' work of which I am employed in is considered high tech manufacturing with the latest machining equipment (I work on a brand new 6 spindle index turning machine, touch screen interface ... it's slick). I make decent money and have excellent benefits (health, dental, vision, disability, matching 401k, the list goes on). There are no unions here. My work environment is clean, safe, and climate controlled. So yeah, times are changing.

@commieiamewan 6 жыл бұрын

couldn't agree more, i'm a 17 year old fabricator and welder, 40 years ago i'd have been snapped up by the biggest firms. now, you are even lucky here to get an apprenticeship. this is one of the biggest reasons i have for leaving the north east of england, theres just nothing here for me.

@420Kyle1620 6 жыл бұрын

This will happen to more and more people (automation is coming). Mandatory minimum income shouldn't be far off, but the first rounds of people will have it rough (without mmi).

@davetherave1230 6 жыл бұрын

it will be very rough for millions unless they implement it asap.

@MinoritiesRlazy 6 жыл бұрын

420Kyle1620 gotta sell your dope

@420Kyle1620 6 жыл бұрын

MinoritiesRlazy ayo

@probablecausetocheckhard-drive 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to labour

@p0werpunk9irl Жыл бұрын

This is much like the story of a small town in England called Corby. The British Steel steelworks were everything in that town. My dad worked there, my mum worked there. My dad was an electrician for British Steel too. He fell from a crane one day and broke his leg. He ended up leaving to become a cab driver and shortly after that the steelworks were closed down. That town went to rack and ruin after that. It was practically a ghost town. Nothing for kids to do but steal cars and joyride. Our town was the teenage pregnancy capital of Europe in those days.

@grahamcole4240 Ай бұрын

Same at Ebbw Vale where I worked for 35 years.

@de0509 6 жыл бұрын

They done em on the back They done em on the back They done em all on the back They done em all on the back (gets one guy willing to buy) ...its great artwork... and they pulled it off pretty good actually...

@shashanktrivedi27 6 жыл бұрын

In order to save your steel, you need to take affirmative action against Chinese steel.

@flower-ld5id 6 жыл бұрын

or source things locally again because globalisation is toxic. why take it out on china

@aenorist2431 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, source things locally because people hate money. You can pretend the world does not exist, noone else will. Globalization is only toxic if you do it wrong, like most neo-liberal western nations post 1970s.

@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez 6 жыл бұрын

Globalism is why the uk is still one of the most powerfull nations on the globe dont be so short sighted look at what happened to ireland when they became protectionist they got fucked like a sheep in a welsh mans barn what is true is that some will loose and others will gain thats how capitalism works

@AG86UK 6 жыл бұрын

International unionisation is the only actual solution to the challenges faced by workers in the face of corporate power. Workers unions within individual countries just render the country internationally noncompetitive (see Thatcher); international workers unions are the only way to prevent a race to the bottom.

@moto45 6 жыл бұрын

Shashank Trivedi shitty Chinese Steel yeah

@TwoStupidCats 6 жыл бұрын

Ah Vice.. Finally something that's not weed related . Thank you

@E-A-Z-Y 6 жыл бұрын

I live 10 miles from PT, in Swansea. It’s a different world here.

@iaw7406 Жыл бұрын

swansea has a nice view of the steelworks

@curt3494 6 жыл бұрын

Solidarity with the Port Talbot men, from the West Midlands.

@Diles46 6 жыл бұрын

From one Nigel to another, you will do fine sir. Hang in there Nige and keep on. God Bless from the states.

@iluvfireworksssss 6 жыл бұрын

Great video, rule brittannia is vices best series

@Lazkaroz 6 жыл бұрын

Vice at its best, letting the people and visuals tell the story rather than a spindly 20-something SocialStudies Student narrating it all.

@twill3622 6 жыл бұрын

God Bless This Man💯💯💯 Learned Alot Watching This ?

@Phurfee 6 жыл бұрын

6:29 MF DOOM shirt

@abpenningtonmusic 6 жыл бұрын

Phurfee thought i was the only one who noticed

@SlowDownImWhite 6 жыл бұрын

i have it aswell

@Oxzide92 6 жыл бұрын

I scrolled down to look for this comment, glad there are a few others that noticed!

@m.w.6526 6 жыл бұрын

yup!

@ireviewshtuff 6 жыл бұрын

ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SAY THE MAN NAME

@fergrt01 6 жыл бұрын

Felt so bad when he realised they had printed the designs on the back of the t-shirts

@theunion6024 6 жыл бұрын

and the north east was forgotten, and its industry died

@lifedecoded9842 6 жыл бұрын

North west too. Good example being Birkenhead, my hometown.

@irlarchvz 6 жыл бұрын

Loads of pits round Yorkshire you can go in sad now really

@monarchkng5640 6 жыл бұрын

I though it was Burnie Burns on the thumbnail for a second

@MAdMAx19901 6 жыл бұрын

8:31 is that my boi Pancho?? Hell yeah

@mikesully110 6 жыл бұрын

Terry Gilliam was also inspired for his sci-fi dystopia film (set in a nightmare totalitarian state) by the UK in general and Port Talbot in particular

@chaiandrelax 6 жыл бұрын

Amazing story, love the welsh!!!!!

@kaufmanek 6 жыл бұрын

Would you guys consider making video about Norilsk? Look it up, it's pretty interesting.

@SuperAlexandra9 6 жыл бұрын

Cool guy, Good Luck.... Never give up!

@TheElDoctoro24 Жыл бұрын

For all those who complain about what’s left of the UKs heavy industry due to noise or pollution please consider half of the cities/towns in the country wouldn’t be even on a map today if it wasn’t for Industry

@jacobstrasbaugh5761 6 жыл бұрын

I feel like these captions are a bit off

@guissedom6353 6 жыл бұрын

Jacob Strasbaugh no one has any clue what theyre saying. Except the people raised around Wales. And they're all butthurt no one can understand them.

@TheBathy44 6 жыл бұрын

I'm australian and can see/hear the mistakes in the captioning. The accents are strong but surely vice has the budget to do better. Obviously a lot of effort in shooting and editing this piece.....why ruin it with incorrect captions?

@alfredhitchcock45 6 жыл бұрын

The captions are incorrect but if i turn them off the more that i would not understand them

@tallstoic 4 жыл бұрын

lmao they inaccurate bro

@mook_butt8037 4 жыл бұрын

The only caption option I have is auto-generated, so of course it’s going to be awful.

@Paintopia_VR 6 жыл бұрын

when he opened the t-shirts with the design on the back that was some funny shit there lol

@shuttie92 6 жыл бұрын

I think the first tshirt was supposed to say 'San Portalbo' but it actually says 'San Portablo', which is just confusing

@allstar930 6 жыл бұрын

I grew up in a city that lost all it's industry soon after I was born. It sucks. The whole Great Lakes region of the US was decimated in the late '70s. Peace from Youngstown, Ohio.

@lct8954 6 жыл бұрын

Loved this!

@BiffScooter1 6 жыл бұрын

For hope: See Pittsburgh's transformation after the steel industry left. Can the Welsh do it?

@etch.asketch2420 6 жыл бұрын

I just want to give Nigel a hug.

@antonhaugaard9531 5 жыл бұрын

INTRO SONG??

@TechnoBite 6 жыл бұрын

Man.. some parts of UK are just so depressing

@flower-ld5id 6 жыл бұрын

depression is everywhere

@ymarw1684 6 жыл бұрын

This is Wales, screw the UK

@makerink 6 жыл бұрын

Its to much regulation, my start up aims to take on china for manufacturing some products but there is way to much socialism and regulation. Making it very hard to just get the job done, like those old factories if there wasn't so much regulation then startups could buy this wasteland a build cheap structures. bt the business tax rates on premises is crazy. Britain could be great we just need real capitalism / free market, its not so free is the problem.

@oliverjonesmtb9731 4 жыл бұрын

Most of the time it’s decent but sometimes it’s shit really shit

@mjh5437 2 жыл бұрын

Ireland is even worse than Wales.

@alfiesolomons434 Жыл бұрын

I recognise a few of them Port Talbot boys from the bob bank at Ninian Park back in the day. Respect to you Nigel. Although i'm from the Vale i did work quite a few times as a subby on the blast furnace . Not a place for the faint hearted . If you stood still for a minute ya boots would melt

@88Treatment 6 жыл бұрын

A steelworker and a coalburner. How does he keep up with so much work ?

@Unknown-hj7uc Жыл бұрын

The ones that move on survive, the ones that "this is my home not going anywhere" just rot away

@tofudelivery8101 6 жыл бұрын

I had no idea what was going with the documentary, the title of the video and what they were saying until I read the description

@TitiniusAndronicus 2 жыл бұрын

Business has the potential to be the hub of a community, as it previously has been. ‘Every man for himself’ mentality kills communities, kills the spirit, and eventually kills humans through depression. A community is a basic human need.

@benthomas1519 Жыл бұрын

Neo-Liberalism makes no provision for community. As Thatcher said "There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families". Her vision is complete.

@bigearedmouse17 6 жыл бұрын

Was great to see Pancho alive and well.

@adamcoyne230 6 жыл бұрын

The image is better on the back imo.

@BLX187 6 жыл бұрын

a few of those tees looked good.. and dirty sanchez! thats old skool!

@Carole_Baskin 6 жыл бұрын

I too like to walk past iron foundries I used to work at carrying a box of t-shirts.

@markportwood4045 Жыл бұрын

My late father was an engineer, a tool maker who learnt his trade in the mills of Manchester. He saved and moved to Devon when he was old enough to do so, he then worked at the same factory from the late 60’s until the early 2000’s. He ended up with the Chinese leaning over him watching his work, they were flown from China before the company was relocated there. He would say: “They have killed the engineering in this country.”

@SecondTake123 6 жыл бұрын

I don't understand the heavy accent and subtitles are not helping! So he has a T Shirt brand? That is really cool! I think when industries change and evolve then it is good time to delve more into your hobbies. Soon all of our hobbies will be the future of work. Especially when Basic Income is implemented.

@Tombola1993 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see my hometown get represented.

@jahosaphat 6 жыл бұрын

I love these people because they know what's important for their community. They don't question what it is they ought to be doing. 1929...

@dokodojo477 6 жыл бұрын

good on you nigel. what a man

@rawaserwan5463 6 жыл бұрын

Thank god for subtitles

@MATZ302 6 жыл бұрын

you guys are awesome to be honest

@claudiapearce7361 6 жыл бұрын

What is the intro song to these Britannia docos?

@croncorcen 6 жыл бұрын

Great stuff VICE, really interesting. But could you please include subtitels? it is really hard for non native speakers to understand a single word ;)

@johnrevell2284 6 жыл бұрын

Watching a mans life fall apart Episode 1

@rkgaustin9043 6 жыл бұрын

I'm so old I remember when Britain had a middle class.

@baliksupper6043 3 жыл бұрын

You can’t move for the middle classes in London,they’ve gentrified every working class area.Vertually the only places left are the big estates.

@surbon514 6 жыл бұрын

More great stuff like this.

@SODMGAlex 6 жыл бұрын

Shocking subtitles!

@peppie7 6 жыл бұрын

Nice subtitles...

@holdmybeer 6 жыл бұрын

This is going to test the limits of youtubes auto CC. the fuck they saying?

@joeybagohdoughnuts387 6 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah, respect his hustle👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@slymoonlight 6 жыл бұрын

To make steel you need iron. Britain is not the top iron digger in the world nor it has lots of deposits. So iron is imported which just ads to the costs of manufacturing. Draw a conclusion.

@-__-_-.- 6 жыл бұрын

I've worked there, not as a steel worker though. It seems they recycle most of their steel. Not import it. Plenty of scrap metal here

@paulknight6186 6 жыл бұрын

Good luck mucker, next time I'm in the area I'll buy a couple.

@dirkdiggler4667 6 жыл бұрын

So sad,the same thing has happened in north east England with mining and steel works.theres never been so much poverty and drug taking

@johnminshell6532 Жыл бұрын

Nigel is a Great Man , an inspiration to any one who wants to make a go of some thing , dealing with the Ups and the Downs He should be the Mayor .

@suryaharris007 6 жыл бұрын

Anyone else from Port Talbot watching??:D

@andywales666 6 жыл бұрын

yup

@EdwardOberon 6 жыл бұрын

👍 carmarthen

@chrisnelmes7180 5 жыл бұрын

Yo.

@pendulum1997 6 жыл бұрын

Pancho how I’ve missed you ❤️

@jameshowells 6 жыл бұрын

MF DOOM @6.29

@sherifsoldatov 6 жыл бұрын

This man is an everyday hero.

@OddisProductions 6 жыл бұрын

24:20 - Is that Colin Pascoe, assistant manager at Liverpool FC under Rodgers!? WTF :D

@SpacemanSmee 6 жыл бұрын

The subtitles are wrong lmao sort it out vice good job I can understand what their saying

@Scoobyxxxsnax 6 жыл бұрын

omgawd those are some hot cops

@DarriusDP 6 жыл бұрын

Holy shit. I live there

@noghd2560 6 жыл бұрын

Lamenting the decline of British inudstry while importing dirt cheap chinese t-shirts for a profit

@KillThatPopcorn 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah you're going to need to make some subs for this.

@KungFuChess 6 жыл бұрын

NOt sure whats worse.. being laid off or having to breath the toxic air the corporation that laid you off spews out?

@remcovanvliet3018 6 жыл бұрын

Good luck Nigel!

@swimthrumyaquarium 6 жыл бұрын

This is the most depressing thing I've seen for a while

@inq_9294 4 жыл бұрын

When you know everyone in the documentary 😂

@crimsonstar108 6 жыл бұрын

at 16:00 Is that the accent or is he just pissed off his ass?

@abrasdwe 6 жыл бұрын

They done them on the back I think

@kennethcarpenter998 6 жыл бұрын

Should put subtitles.

@inniehyun3554 6 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad I live there I can understand everything 😂 I’ve litreally been on that field

@deacontm2796 6 жыл бұрын

Keep thinking they saying "Staek our grill"

@cozmicpretzscher 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, interesting docu, but your subtitles are way off, I'm not Welsh

@WorldWalker23 6 жыл бұрын

wow. The guy talking at 13.18 in refers to Women in port talbot as MILFS. " Half the Milfs in Port Talbot wish to be sold tea towels"

@REBACK7 6 жыл бұрын

0:29 Wasn't looking at the video and i thought it was Jon Snow.

@tylerlovelaceis 6 жыл бұрын

These aren't Auto generated captions so why are they so wrong and insensitive to the people going through this situation?

@primoshunter 6 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of coal mining jobs in West Virginia. There's not a lot but it's the best paying job in the area. Regardless of educational level