i should delete your comment. You are wrong and this exceeds code in our area... i can show you proof of permit and inspection.... i am a licensed contractor. look me up its public. je quality exteriors out of oshkosh, wi 54902 google it!!!!!!!!!!!! i have been licensed for many years! i have thousands of roofs under my belt

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@@Lifes_Apprentice yeah this is a totally fine way to shingle a valley. This guy is just stuck in his ways and won’t accept any one else’s method. Only thing I would add is that the valley should have ice and water shield. Unless I’m wrong and it’s under your felt. Needed per code in my state and should be done in any state regardless. Otherwise great video brother!

No this dude is just a troll and probably use to work at McDonald's until that covid unemployment hit....now he is a full time troll😁🐐

You’re probably a inspector who has to setup a whole harnesse to get on the roof. I’ve been roofing for 5 years I’m 19 and my master taught me well how to do the things the right way here in Texas it is fine for him to nail the valley this way my only flaw is I would run the other row of shingles first to not end up having wavy shingles. I always throw chalk lines all the way to the top.4 nails is enough if it’s 8/12 and up i 6 nail. The gap of the shingles should be 6 inches in my opinion and the nail should be at least 4 inches from the seam. Besides that I don’t see anything wrong with this valley. If you’re in the north then you’re correct you do throw a chalk line cut the shingles on the valley and cut the lil corner of the shingles so water won’t get stuck on the valley

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I completely agree! Thanks

i prefer the closed valley but thats my opinion

@@Lifes_Apprentice And a fine opinion it is. We don't get a lot of snow in Portland Oregon, but do get ice build up. The closed valley seems pretty well adapted to that.

@@johnsteup2093 the open valley is ok but you get more protection in my opinion with a closed valley

Agreed

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Thanks! Happy to help

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Thanks for watching!

Thanks!

Thanks for watching! I have tons of other videos you may find helpful

Your welcome

if gables are small i would still start with the 8/12 gables and run them under main roof

On a closed valley always start on smaller roof running shingles up the larger roof and always always seal the valley shingle before shingle if the top side

we have to run ice and water in the valley it is code here I almost always cover with felt because it can be slippery and sticky depending on conditions. I run my tarpaper straight to ridge so I am keeping the shingles straight. I know what you mean by running 2 sets starting valley and alot of people do it that way. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment

i am located in central wisconsin

I have never tarred under. Make sure you are careful with nail placement and you will not have any issues

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I have a quite a few roofing videos. you would have to go look at my roofing playlist

Fast Internet voids for what brand? Your blanket statement isn’t true

Fast Internet yes the stagger pattern like that can void the warranty but not the Cali valley itself.

I always run 2 shingles up when I do a valley.

Running two while shingling up your valley should be standard, but if your working with people that don't just treat it like a gable and dont run off it and you should be fine

You rock Incognito I love teaching new guys how to shingle valleys I giggle every time I get to show slick tips but something about teaching to start your valleys with two shingles so you can stay straight Just Hits that sweet spot every time

You can do that for an "open" valley

this is the best way to do valley in my opinion to. we are required by code to install ice and water 3 feet past outside wall which is usually 2 rows at least. on certain pitches when it is hot the ice and water get slippery and we cover with felt to make it safer

Gotcha, make sense to me lol.

46 inch ice and water

You may need to remove some of the old roof and tie them together...That is most likely the case

@@Lifes_Apprentice Those 3 layered shingles are on the other side of the valley. Thank you.

​@@GiantSlayer-rr1vu3 layered shingles? Do they sorta look like slate tiles? Grand Manor shingles possibly? Sorry, didn't mean to get in your conversation here, just saw this comment about 3 layer shingles and was curious what you meant.

@@Lifes_Apprentice I removed the entire side I was working on. I went with new sheathing, the standard 3-block shingles. It turned off great. I will be having an actual roofer come out to replace the back porch and living room shingles in march 2024. again thank you so much

Very true!

it creates a straight line in the valley and eliminates cutting

@@Lifes_Apprentice Thanks. What's your opinion on weaving them?

You're very welcome!

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@@Lifes_Apprentice i will do thank you so much 😊

That is how the manufacturuer wants the nails to be spaced

you are welcome

Run it up the same way. Sometimes you need to offset the last 3-4 courses on the top to get the final course to meet up the same as the other side.

You can do that

@@Lifes_Apprentice awesome thanks

yes there is ice and water and metal. we cover ice and water with tarpaper sometimes when it gets slippery

@@Lifes_Apprentice Ok thanks for the quick reply.

this video is about valley. starter is optional on rake edge

in most cases i run the tarpaper straight to the peak for reference. i will snap lines with multiple dormers

good advice!!!

I was gunna say the same thinf

I like Quad for metal and brick. I cant think of the name of the tar I use for shingles Its a pretty normal type of tar

If you end up with a sliver you just put a 12inch piece before you put a full shingle to finish

The starter shingle is neccesary

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on this valley it is not necessary but most valleys will have one shingle weaved

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That is a whole other video. The best way is to snap lines so both sides end up the same

the new guy always gets the new gun!!!

just like when the new guy has clean pants for a day or two!!!! either the pants get dirty or the guy quits!!!

@@Lifes_Apprentice lol exactly. Nice video bro. Crazy how you can roof left handed.

@@MrLegit gotta go both ways when shingling !!!

@@Lifes_Apprentice you can shave off tons of time like that. I can't roof left handed though.

You will have to take off at least the top layer near valley to get new shingles under and then replace shingles you removed. The other option is do an open valley but without seeing I cannot be sure the right answer

I will never understand either... They should make videos if I am doing it wrong. They are just keyboard warriors and trolls

It is the exact same thing as the cut valley but there are no cuts...this way avoids small pieces near valley, seams, and keeps nails consistently away from valley. If you are still doing valley the other way you are wasting so much time and materials

@@Lifes_Apprentice nah dude I'm not a novice. Go do homes in big sky Montana they won't even let you do it. It's ugly because it leaves a huge hump on One side of the valley. Rich people don't want to look up and see that humped up garbage . If it's done with 40 or 50 year shingles it looks even worse. It's a lazy man's valley that will leak in cold environments because the ice gets caught behind the glue line of your bleeder. A cut valley with the dog ear cut out is the only way to go.... I have roofed in Seattle and Montana. I've roofed in the union and they don't do it in either place.

@@Lifes_Apprentice the reason why you do it is because it's faster and it's easy to teach to any dip 💩. I'm telling you that valley is a humped up mess waiting to leak. You will get plenty of other people saying the same thing. Especially if they actually know what they are doing.

@@travishanks7295 I have been roofing for almost 20 years now and we used to cut valleys like you are saying until like 10 years ago. I never have had issues doing it either way. The valley will have a hump either way. I know dozens of local roofers and many online and they all do the valleys the same way. go troll another comment section with your baseless claims...If you want people to learn to do it your way make your own videos

no. steps should always be about 6 inches

Ok my friend. I did not do what you said

you mean he didn't tell ya?

Most areas require the shingle to project past the roof edge. With the white aluminum starter or roof edge, you already have that requirement.

I believe most shingle manufactuers will void warranty with a weaved valley

Wrong ..the bundle states only nailing patterns and hawaii is hurricane high windage so we use 6 nails ,and the steps is the same but the proper terminology is called books ...at no point does the manufactory warranty says anything about weaving its just a half ass way that mainland does valleys in my opinion and I run a few businesses, landscaping and roofing and my insurance company prefers weaving its more durable and its nailed better

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@@AMS-ri3xm What brand of shingles do you guys have in hawaii?

We carry all types of shingles mostly AR is preferred..algae resistant ...we have ABC roofing supply as a main distributor only shingles i dislike is Malarkey but like I said all directions are on the bundle for manufacturers warranty so u got a couple years on installation as a liability as a contractor then the full warranty on shingles as stated and years 20 plus or 30 plus that varies unless u torching down then it'll go 50 years and standing seam metal roofs are a infinite