How to do a closed valley!!!

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Veteran Construction

Veteran Construction

4 жыл бұрын

This channel is for educational purposes only. The methods taught in these video's are just a few of many ways to do construction. Use your best judgement of what will work best for you and what is required by code in your area. Like, subscribe, and hit the bell.

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@tmt3052
@tmt3052 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the haters on here 😂 Been doing valleys like this for 10 years and have never had an issue. Looks good. Keep it up 👍
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha its expected. most members of the hater herd either learn their lesson or become fans. its all part of the process. the channel is growing really quick idc about haters its all about the fans now. I might still straighten out a dumbass or 2 for fun though who knows
@henrystaggs227
@henrystaggs227 4 жыл бұрын
@@NWIVeteranConstruction Fall protection is the law, and if you want set the example you should do it right. Oh and California valleys leak.
@mightyd9508
@mightyd9508 4 жыл бұрын
@@NWIVeteranConstruction just curious what area your from? Im not being a troll. Im up north where Ice gathers in valleys in winter and expands.
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
@@mightyd9508 north west Indiana. Chicago basically
@cgah6690
@cgah6690 4 жыл бұрын
they leak. especially the way you do it not a hater, I'm a fan and I approve of absolutely everything else I have seen yo do this far. I say take a course and get certified. your a great installer.
@pimp1979robertmack
@pimp1979robertmack 2 жыл бұрын
I'm stunned, theirs actually a video that shows you how to actually start the valley and why the valley is started that way. Nice.
@davidnoeth9903
@davidnoeth9903 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video it is the last piece of the puzzle that I needed. We vets need to stick together.. thanks for your service!!
@philoyphilia
@philoyphilia 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Veteran. Thank you for thoroughly explaining the process. It is amazing how precise you are while on the roof...not to mention dealing with the sun. Be safe and thanks bro.
@gordonsjodin8655
@gordonsjodin8655 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice work. I was skeptical at first that this wouldn't be very good but was very surprised at the expertise and attention to detail. A true pro at work.
@elkskiutah8204
@elkskiutah8204 4 жыл бұрын
Great job. A valley is quite complicated. I just put on a ridgemaster vent on my 34' shed. I think it took me 20 hours. It was 12/12 or something steep close to 45. I had to RIP off architectural caps and a row on each side then add a row each side so my ridgemaster would hit on the flats of my shingles. Then cut all those new caps. Lifes hard being a perfectionist.
@iamkerok
@iamkerok 4 жыл бұрын
His accuracy for tossing trash toward gutter is amazing!
@johnnybravoBoyah
@johnnybravoBoyah 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@bobbyjuice3935
@bobbyjuice3935 Жыл бұрын
This guy makes it look easy, just keeping mud on trowel is an art. My Dad was bricklayer for John B. Kelly inc. in Philadelphia started in the 50's retired in 1993. He had forearms like Popeye and had a grip that could crush bones. My Hat off to all Masons, I'm huge fan. Great video!
@Socks848
@Socks848 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice to see someone showing new roofers your method. Don't mind the haters. Keep doing your thing.
@Michaelgrahamcracker
@Michaelgrahamcracker 3 жыл бұрын
You are very good! Thank you for not making it a "show off my nail speed video!" People need to learn from these videos without feeling discouraged. I'm a handyman, and I have never laid shingles, now I know the right way to do a valley thanks to you!
@Chris.Brisson
@Chris.Brisson 2 жыл бұрын
Looks to me like 5 nails per second on average. I can't believe there will be zero problems after 6,000 nails are shot.
@ivtec4fun55
@ivtec4fun55 4 жыл бұрын
I need to fix my own roof, but im an automotive technician, never roofed, saw the worlds fastest shingler, clicked, realized very quickly you know your shit, 5 nail pattern, i now understand, valley backstep, got it. Thank you for sharing your techniques and the way you teach makes sense to me. Smiles and Frowns took me a few minutes to "see" and "notice". My roofer friend told me my ridge cap was backwards, or upsidedown, not sure what he means, but the sheeting is rotting after only 10 years or so. Thanks again for your experience and knowledge, great videos.
@Beandiptheredneck
@Beandiptheredneck 4 жыл бұрын
Vtec4fun if you’re a mechanic you can probably figure out shingling. It ain’t that hard, although my cousin who’s a mechanic is like a cat on a roof, most people don’t realize how uncomfortable it is if your not used to it lol
@MonoZeus
@MonoZeus 4 жыл бұрын
Please also ensure you have adequate attic venting, as insufficient attic venting can promote the rotting of your sheathing.
@kriskoi1
@kriskoi1 3 жыл бұрын
A true professional fast and efficient. 👍🏻 Thank you
@toddlefebvre8266
@toddlefebvre8266 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the videos. Keep em coming. Great work
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
thank you I appreciate that!
@Optrader4MX289
@Optrader4MX289 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooo much for sharing this!! It's just what I was looking for, and even though my valley may not have turned out as good as yours, at least I was very confident in what I was doing. Thank you again !!!
@luisalcoser690
@luisalcoser690 3 жыл бұрын
You’re video are awesome, I’m learning something new
@TheChamar101
@TheChamar101 4 жыл бұрын
I started doing roofing in 2005 in Vancouver Canada and started off doing a lot of cedar shakes and then later asphalt shingles I ripped old shingles off that were done like that but I have never done shingles in the valley without a metal valley flashing it's good to know the method thanks for showing this method
@carlmcdaniel5681
@carlmcdaniel5681 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on! There are a few ways to run a valley, but this way is as good and efficient as any and will look great, great job on nail placement, you'd be surprised how many so called roofers mess up on nail placement and all other aspects of shingle roofs!
@jcgoogle1808
@jcgoogle1808 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a roofer, but I own rental property and have to hire roofers every couple of years or so. Just started watching your videos a couple of months ago when some popped up with other vids I was watching. Had to see the "world's fastest shingler" ;) at work. Been watching ever since. I got to this video from the link on the "worst roof ever installed" Part 2 12-7-19 video. I was wondering in the "fastest square contest" vids why you left a gap after the first nail in your nailing pattern. This video explained the nail pattern and the valley well. Thanks. A lot of these kinds of videos not only apply to roofing but lessons for planning and time (saving) management in other disciplines as well. And the "worst roof ever" should be a must see for anyone who is thinking about hiring a roofer. Good job.
@StevenMoore-rs3me
@StevenMoore-rs3me 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see we aren't the only company that finds it hard to find good help. We are at the top end of the pay spectrum and still can't find anyone that reliable
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
It's a tough business. Got to lead by example, almost anyone worth a damn is got some serious issues
@Snarkapotamus
@Snarkapotamus 4 жыл бұрын
@@NWIVeteranConstruction - Amen to that! It's definitely a young man's game. I did it 35-years ago and there's no way in hell I could do it now on a production level.
@RobXb
@RobXb 5 ай бұрын
Too many rules and regulations. Dishonest contractors, weather, alcohol and drug addictions. Those are all things I’ve witnessed in my state. I’m hoping to work 7 days a week this summer.
@davidlysohirka798
@davidlysohirka798 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, nothin serious, no big deal! I love it! Especially a half -ass weave! The best ever!
@juanjaramillo6778
@juanjaramillo6778 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video I do my roofing my self that"s Awesome Thanks Bro keep it up
@Joesdifferent
@Joesdifferent 4 жыл бұрын
Very good demonstration I've been a roofing contractor for 30 years of my entire life I can definitely agree with your demonstration great job bro
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you subscribe to see more! Got a lot of good videos coming up
@Joesdifferent
@Joesdifferent 4 жыл бұрын
@@NWIVeteranConstruction roof troubleshooting is something I have always loved doing
@jimmywhite7856
@jimmywhite7856 4 жыл бұрын
Your shits gunna leak too then!
@sjfarish
@sjfarish 4 жыл бұрын
Good looking roofing job thank you for sharing your knowledge... You know most guy's I worked for wouldn't lift a finger to help us workers out they would show up the day we started a job and the day to collect the check when we were finishing up. I would have loved working for a boss like you , I can remember many times guy's wouldn't even have the money to pay us on payday because they were out chasing that buzz...
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
yea that's insane to me. I know all about that. I will be more of a delegator someday, but it will be earned by then and I will always be available for material runs n whatever. this is my job. n payday. that's fucked up. I've never even come close to being short on pay day. its all about money management
@stephenjeronymo6093
@stephenjeronymo6093 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen anyone use shingles diagonally in the valley, always seen them cut off the excess overlap to create the seam. I really love this method! I told my fianceé when the first two diagonal shingles were laid "I'm not sure what he's doing; but I think I'm about to like it". This seems to eliminate a lot of waste, cutting time, and keeps a crisp valley edge. I'm currently replacing her roof from the damage of Hurricane Ida in Terrebonne Parish. It's been 20 years since I've roofed a house; and this video will help me out tremendously! Thanks!
@dannyneveu6226
@dannyneveu6226 2 жыл бұрын
It's called California valley...not legal in Alberta,CA...but did alot of it like this and its mint...never had one leak
@stephenjeronymo6093
@stephenjeronymo6093 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyneveu6226 I used this method on my fianceé's roof when I repaired it in Dec 2021. Waste was well below 10%. The estimate was $10K; and we done it ourselves for slightly under $2,500. I was very pleased with the results. If an ice/water shield is installed in the valleys, then it seems ridiculous for this method to be illegal anywhere. The overlapping doesn't change drastically, just an added guideline for the overlapping layer to follow. However, I have much respect for meticulous roofers. I'm definitely not biting at the bit to roof another house. LoL
@temtagesson1162
@temtagesson1162 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. About to start a shingle job on my house and this just what I will be doing. Thanks
@gh5030
@gh5030 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know anything about roofing, but I watched this video twice, never thought it’s to complicated like this. anyway great job..
@killuazoldyck6852
@killuazoldyck6852 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not complicated at all. (I’m a roofer)
@killuazoldyck6852
@killuazoldyck6852 3 жыл бұрын
The great job is being able to be up there for hours on end in the blistering heat.
@Sailor376also
@Sailor376also 4 жыл бұрын
I like your variation of a closed valley. I began doing a woven valley years ago because of the usual problems of a cut closed valley. I have watches several of your videos now and gained from them. I've been doing it for 50+ years,, not a steady diet,, just the one or two regular customers each year. Now it is my turn to give back. Two very small tips for you. A. On any closed or open valley, there is a center line and the cut line off to the side,, it should be a taper, open to the bottom. You can begin right on the center line at the top of the valley,, but then run the chalk line to 3 or 4 inches open at the bottom. This is a near requirement for an area with a maple tree, ash trees are pretty much gone,, the helicopter seeds. If the valley does not open to the bottom,, they will jam it up. B. You use a rake edge starter strip, hopefully with a tar strip (There is one video,, no tar strip,,,, you know which I mean.) The rake edge starter strips should NOT be flush with the shingle edges. I have not seen your detail at that point,, I am inferring. You could be doing it just fine already. On rakes, the edge starter strip should be flush or just a bit beyond the drip edge,, but the shingle should extend past the starter strip. Starter strips that are flush with the shingle edges on slopes will lead water back under the shingles. Shingles always stick out farther. You very likely do this already,, I have not seen a clear example in the videos I've watched thus far. It just looks like you do it flush. Always good to watch someone skillful. In spite of my years and number of roofs, I haven't learned it all. Good to pick up subtleties from someone else, who is good.
@cstone2109
@cstone2109 4 жыл бұрын
Sailor376also always cut rake straight to starter lol first thing customer looks at is the rake and if that looks like shit then the whole roof might look like shit
@cstone2109
@cstone2109 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll take A. For some thought. Sounds reasonable because on a rainy day bottom of the valley is a river
@boosalith2246
@boosalith2246 3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to learn a lot of things watching your videos. My mom is looking to replace her shingles in a couple of years, your videos are helping out. Looks like mom's going to save some money and with my brother working for a shingles manufacturing company she's going to save quite a bit of money😂
@kevinwaller6353
@kevinwaller6353 3 жыл бұрын
Hire a roofer or you will regret it.
@billrowe4r
@billrowe4r Жыл бұрын
Great videos! Especially this one. Just did my roof and my valleys came out great! Saved myself $5000 doing my own roof.
@billrowe4r
@billrowe4r Жыл бұрын
I'd share pics but can't on here lol
@abelzeferino7142
@abelzeferino7142 4 жыл бұрын
I am a newbie to roofing and I find all your videos to be easy to follow and very educational! Can’t wait to see a video on how to put on drip edge. It seems confusing at times and hard
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
Its so simple! I'll make on for you shortly
@abelzeferino7142
@abelzeferino7142 4 жыл бұрын
Worlds Fastest Shingler thanks brother!
@jamesdumais8263
@jamesdumais8263 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@filippkharinpolice
@filippkharinpolice 4 жыл бұрын
Worked all the day on the roof and still watch ur videos lol😂
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
lol no such thannggg as too much roofin
@marymontalvo4413
@marymontalvo4413 6 ай бұрын
I support veterans because I’m a veteran myself beautiful job young man beautiful job if I ever need a roofer I am going to invited to Indiana to do it. The best roofer I shave seen so far
@pauljones8054
@pauljones8054 4 ай бұрын
Great video educational and enjoyable I'm a slater and tiler in the UK 40.years experience I used shingle once or twice on decorational garden gazebos I'd managed to do hips but now I'd be confident enough to take on valley's thanks mate
@TheFirewoodHut
@TheFirewoodHut 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! The 'only' thing I do different is to sort through the package and choose shingles that end with a single ply on other side of valley instead of double ply on laminate. Less 'lumpy' when other side of roof is installed. I see the procedure of running 1 course of shingle up the valley before starting other side more & more. Personally, I still run them wild across valley, chaulk a line to valley crease, and cut (upper 'points' too).
@tonypena6625
@tonypena6625 3 жыл бұрын
I barely started working for a roofing company and watching your videos motivates me to learn and be one step ahead
@philiphorner31
@philiphorner31 2 жыл бұрын
One of the better I have watched. Thanks
@offgridburbia
@offgridburbia 3 ай бұрын
Really helpful video. Thanks for the posting. I'm roofing my parents' house this weekend and they have several valleys.
@erineopenaloza8311
@erineopenaloza8311 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a boss like you that explained stuff. I never found out how to shingle and missed lots of opportunities bc of it.
@jimmywhite7856
@jimmywhite7856 4 жыл бұрын
If you had someone explain it to you lik that you wouldn't have kept a job very long!
@hevymetal30
@hevymetal30 4 жыл бұрын
jmack outdoorluvr Dude...WTF
@raycaldwell163
@raycaldwell163 4 жыл бұрын
I am doing my homes roof and am learning from you thanks
@joseochoa8517
@joseochoa8517 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for please keep making more videos thank you so much
@edwinescobar4207
@edwinescobar4207 4 жыл бұрын
Be careful on them roofs, brother. Very much enjoy watching your videos.
@ratkeller9608
@ratkeller9608 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for explaining your 1 3 1 nailing pattern, though I think it overkill, it is better to see you are consistent with your work and I would never worry about the extra nail. good job sir! I like your work. as long as you apply your lap cut valley properly with your lap side on the lower slope and the steeper slope as the cut side.
@trueRocc
@trueRocc 4 жыл бұрын
Architectural shingles require minimum of 5 nails. Just helps to hold the shingle down better in windy conditions
@brodefineportraiture446
@brodefineportraiture446 2 жыл бұрын
doing a roof next week. Code requires 5 nails per...
@chrisregpick
@chrisregpick 4 жыл бұрын
You over nail, learn to back nail to avoid nailing too close to seems. We use 1/2 shingle technique. Cut shingles into 1/2. Every second row, start with a 1/2 shingle. Nail patterns are consistent. This is important in a group to avoid nailing at a seem. It is a great way to avoid nail/seem mistakes. On another note. 1/2 shingle technique ages much better, you do not see patterns as much. makes it look better. Is it windy where you're at? 4 nails is fine. What is under them shingles? I hope you got Valley or Ice and Water at least. Closed Valleys age much better than open Valleys, but the law up North is Metal in the Valley. Great job.
@robertfavela6513
@robertfavela6513 4 жыл бұрын
chrisregpick make a video
@raybrensike42
@raybrensike42 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. I'll be doing this kind of valley on my roof very soon.
@retardedroofer3123
@retardedroofer3123 3 жыл бұрын
We r GAF certified installers and this is how they prefer to have valleys installed. They also make you 6 nail which was hard at first after 5 nailing for 6 years. Took some getting used to. Bang on brother
@cstone2109
@cstone2109 3 жыл бұрын
They prefer cut valleys
@donslaton9356
@donslaton9356 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but not being a hater as you say but the valley you are installing is called a alternative no cut valley, and on dimensional shingle they recommend a California cut valley or open valley but hey I’ve only know this due to the only shingle manufacture that makes you take a test to be able to install them professionally, but your roofing looks nice.
@cstone2109
@cstone2109 3 жыл бұрын
@@donslaton9356 gaf 100% prefers a traditional cut valley.
@rickdennis2576
@rickdennis2576 4 жыл бұрын
18. 1/2 inches off the bottom then every 11 inches . These measurements are for a chalk line. Top of the shingle hits the chalk line. Keep up the good work.
@robrobson7522
@robrobson7522 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna use this. I’ve done something similar to 41”, 83” and 125”. Used those measurements when tying in a valley
@blacktrunk1613
@blacktrunk1613 2 жыл бұрын
I do 19, and off the 19, 22, 44, 66, 88 to make dormers meet up
@mikejeanette9072
@mikejeanette9072 2 жыл бұрын
Is that for 5-5/8 reveal cause not all shingles measure that
@nathansingleton1514
@nathansingleton1514 Жыл бұрын
Looks like your way up there man, standing on the edge like it’s nothing. Idk how you can do that without a harness. Props to you man, great video.
@highwatercircutrider
@highwatercircutrider Жыл бұрын
Worked 42 years on barn roofs with no harness
@brigidoanguiano9871
@brigidoanguiano9871 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing pretty nice video bro keep up the good work
@jesselinan7208
@jesselinan7208 4 жыл бұрын
When are u going to do a more detailed video on the back step. Thanks for videos and ur help. Teaching me a lot
@1986yamahafazer69
@1986yamahafazer69 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, now you got me interested in shingles! It’s actually A lot like the way our bond is for masonry! How about a hipped roof? That’s what I am stuck with, and I need a new roof. Lower Michigan. Lol!
@trueRocc
@trueRocc 4 жыл бұрын
What about a hip roof were you curious about
@billywagner197
@billywagner197 4 жыл бұрын
@1986yamahafazer69 I roof and I’m out of kalamazoo three rivers area Michigan
@redfirekla
@redfirekla 2 жыл бұрын
You guys do great work this requires so much experience to make sure you have no leak one wrong nail and your screwed. This is why one of my friends that wanted to do his own roof I told him not to. We can frame we can screw dry wall in but roofing not worth the risk.
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 2 жыл бұрын
yea its delicate
@MasterKel1961
@MasterKel1961 4 жыл бұрын
Around 20 years ago, worked as a commercial roofer. Raleigh,Durham area. We always put flashing in the valleys. I am unsure if that was code at the time. But my boss always said valleys had to have metal to insure shingles stayed bonded and even in the valleys. The flashing gave nice smooth surface to keep shingles from sinking in the valley. Love how you use use your gun too maintain bond lines. And even as pros we always popped lines, just too be sure..😀. Love your vids.
@tylerplumley4761
@tylerplumley4761 4 жыл бұрын
Great work haus! I'd like to work with u guys. I run my own renovation company and I occasionally shingle my own projects.. very informative and a pleasure to watch! Keep up the good work. Just subscribed, keep em coming man.
@hershbergerroofing2918
@hershbergerroofing2918 4 жыл бұрын
Good work man been doing valleys like this for 10 years never had a leak Gotta love the haters though lol
@tongyong007
@tongyong007 4 жыл бұрын
Great work. Very methodical..
@marvincastillo4515
@marvincastillo4515 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome way good job teaching how too do it .. Great job on tht.. 👍
@tinamcwilliams7029
@tinamcwilliams7029 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen this way another contractor does his valley .he runs a row of shingles up valley and then just butting his rows to tbat without having to cut them .it's a version of the cut without cutting. I'm old fashioned and still do woven even with different pitches the flat get more rows all by eye .I think that better and I see you tbe same
@bryanlam9886
@bryanlam9886 2 жыл бұрын
drip edge is installed wrong underlayment should be on top of drip edge except on the rake edge
@johngarrison4686
@johngarrison4686 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanlam9886 Florida underlayment under the drip edge ,Hurricane Charlie in south Florida started changing many of the normal ways we have done things for years .Hurricane hits it just don’t matter on a shingle roof over or under it’s going .
@santinomartinez7592
@santinomartinez7592 4 жыл бұрын
My one buddy floats a few shingles b4 falling back 2 the valkey, runs it back to the 2nd n 1st a few then floats again.works out alright!.i try n maintain a 4 nail or storm nail pattern, depending on pitch n story height when doing valleys
@mikerob100
@mikerob100 4 жыл бұрын
Santino Martinez coad where I am is a metal flashing in the valleys.
@rickw5024
@rickw5024 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikerob100 or is it CODE?
@TwoTall1988
@TwoTall1988 4 жыл бұрын
@@rickw5024 Not national/international code, could be local code to require the metal valley. It just calls for: "For closed valleys (valleys covered with shingles), valley lining of one ply of smooth roll roofing complying with ASTM D 6380, and at least 36 inches (914 mm) wide or types as described in Item 1 or 2 above shall be permitted. Self-adhering polymer modified bitumen underlayment complying with ASTM D 1970 shall be permitted in lieu of the lining material."
@OHIOMANUSMC
@OHIOMANUSMC 4 жыл бұрын
25 years next month we’ve been using this we know it as the California 0 issues with leaks. Looks great and customers love it thanks for sharing.
@buckethead1928
@buckethead1928 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and this is the best way to run a valley. We call it a no cut valley. The only thing I do different is my valley line is out of the valley about 2 inches so that water can somewhere roll up and hit the valley shingle which keeps it from being able to work it’s way up under the shingle as easy.
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
There you are. I scrolled past your texts today n was wondering where you been lol I like it a little closer coz it still has that same effect but looks a little nicer in my opinion but to each their own. Close enough right. If I had to guess mine are usually about 1 1/4 out of the actual center
@williamberger403
@williamberger403 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer weaving both sides of the vally. Down here in NC we call what youre doing yankee valley. To me, a weave all the way up looks way better plus itll save you from cutting the valley.
@Dribbling_monk
@Dribbling_monk 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah except weaving archetecturals will almost always void the warranty. If you're unfortunate enough to be installing 3 tabs, than yes I agree with you.
@allennix1052
@allennix1052 4 жыл бұрын
Have you been watching.... He never cut one shingle...
@Maynardd
@Maynardd 4 жыл бұрын
We call this a California Valley. And it’s unacceptable to manufactures. Can’t do it! By the way, there is no cutting.
@skim4me
@skim4me 3 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video?? This is a called a California style no cut closed valley. No cutting, and if you put a 3" row of roof cement under the entire verticals shingles it will never leak. I don't care what the manufacturers say...
@skim4me
@skim4me 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maynardd wrong
@whodatt8884
@whodatt8884 4 жыл бұрын
Never saw valley done that way, looks great, I preferred French weave
@jordanrohl8552
@jordanrohl8552 4 жыл бұрын
weave looks the best in my opinion
@randypaul5427
@randypaul5427 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Boy-cub is a great asset to you. His video is spot on. Learned a lot.
@jefflinnell8492
@jefflinnell8492 3 жыл бұрын
You should teach roofing. I know alot of people say anyone can be a roofer but very few roof it correctly. Great video lots of information and explanation of reasons why .
@zacharyloveland6453
@zacharyloveland6453 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed no chalk lines to maintain straightness with Owens Corning shingles we snap a line 13” from the bottom of drip edge and then 33 1/2” from that line and go all the way up the roof. This helps keep everything straight.
@shanesmith6384
@shanesmith6384 4 жыл бұрын
Pros don’t need chalk lines
@santinomartinez7592
@santinomartinez7592 4 жыл бұрын
W the courses falling on them 33s are they suppose to fall right on or is there any adjusting required?
@TheBearGrylz
@TheBearGrylz 4 жыл бұрын
He chalked for the starter and that’s it.
@dustinoflynn1649
@dustinoflynn1649 4 жыл бұрын
And that's how you end up with no overhang in the middle when the facia bows. Chalk lines are for valleys and hips nothing more.
@michaelparrish755
@michaelparrish755 4 жыл бұрын
Every roofer should use lines!!!! Pros my ass. The shingles need to be and stay straight or the customer got a screwing!!!! I have been roofing for 30 years and lines are a must!!!!
@kahuna_6424
@kahuna_6424 4 жыл бұрын
This drives me crazy , I absolutely love the idea of becoming a roofer. Except i also like the idea of working on cars, but plumbing looks interesting as well. See my problem? I want to do it all , but you can’t be a master at all of those
@Borrowedhusband
@Borrowedhusband 4 жыл бұрын
I'm becoming a home inspector. Seems to fit my needs because it's a little bit of everything!
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes you can! Work buddy work. Plumbing looks easy. Roofing won't take too many years as long as you keep up on my videos and it seems like you've got a headstart on cars/ trucks. Get er done bruh if you want it you need to put tf out!
@kahuna_6424
@kahuna_6424 4 жыл бұрын
Worlds Fastest Shingler fair enough
@carrotbailey
@carrotbailey 4 жыл бұрын
Become a farmer. I get to do em all brother
@dq1043
@dq1043 4 жыл бұрын
With electric cars coming on strong auto mechanics may be in less demand within 10 years..
@rayjackson4547
@rayjackson4547 6 ай бұрын
Very Interesting, as a builder and home inspector (not a pro roofer) in Massachusettes I do cut or weaved valleys. I have never seen anyone run the shingle on the angle up the valley and then roof over it. I like it!
@jguarino
@jguarino 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Thanks
@ryeckley7267
@ryeckley7267 4 жыл бұрын
I like when he makes a mistake, first we don’t notice until he admits to it, and second there is always a quick fix followed by a “that won’t leak” or a “it’s not noticeable” “add some tar, let that one go, inspector won’t see it” Hahaa. Guy is a fantastic roofer
@6string327
@6string327 3 жыл бұрын
It might be a good idea to put roof cement under that place holder shingle in the valley, so once you struck the blue chalk line you could spread some roof cement up to the chalk line and lay the place holder shingle on top. It's just an added measure if water wanted to creep underneath. Great videos and methods btw! Just be careful not to overdo it cause if you step in the valley by accident the tar can squeeze out and make a mess lol
@stephenaylward186
@stephenaylward186 2 жыл бұрын
That's how the crew I work with does valleys
@josephmalinowski6817
@josephmalinowski6817 4 жыл бұрын
Now this guy is a professional and knows what he's doing and I guarantee he only does roofs for a living you won't find him doing Plumbing or electrical you guys I hate those guys who are Jack of all trades and master of none this is somebody who you want on your roof
@johnnynguyen2051
@johnnynguyen2051 10 ай бұрын
Excellent and helpful 👌 Video.. Thank you
@dustinoflynn1649
@dustinoflynn1649 4 жыл бұрын
That first starter you put on, the one you should have ran through the valley a little more. How fast did your shingle catch up to that seam? I'm going to guess next shingle lol
@Lonestarexteriors
@Lonestarexteriors 3 жыл бұрын
If you get the right starters for your shingles you don't have to worry about that.
@Jeremy-yf3tl
@Jeremy-yf3tl 4 жыл бұрын
love your videos. im just a homeowner thinking of doing my roof, but not sure im up to it. its steep, and tall. wish you worked in NC
@carlosportilla7634
@carlosportilla7634 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy do it. Safety first I’m thinking the same as you🤣
@ThecardoctorTV
@ThecardoctorTV 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Thanks.
@dominicaragon4486
@dominicaragon4486 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you explain everything thank you
@jimmywhite7856
@jimmywhite7856 4 жыл бұрын
End of your shingle is in the middle of the vally
@860smalley5
@860smalley5 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like he's being cheap with his shingles and he's only saving a couple shingles
@toddlefebvre8266
@toddlefebvre8266 4 жыл бұрын
Have been doing valleys like that in Northern Ontario Canada for years. Beautiful and practical.
@leighwhite9656
@leighwhite9656 4 жыл бұрын
It's wrong it's called being lazy do closed cut
@toddlefebvre8266
@toddlefebvre8266 4 жыл бұрын
Never had a problem but thanks anyway
@toddlefebvre8266
@toddlefebvre8266 4 жыл бұрын
I also lay a bead of roof cement all the way up about 1/2” away from the chalk line.
@toddlefebvre8266
@toddlefebvre8266 4 жыл бұрын
FYI I live in Northern Canada buddy. Snow, ice, water, 4 seasons. If it works here it works anywhere.
@Beandiptheredneck
@Beandiptheredneck 4 жыл бұрын
leigh white company I work for has been doing them this way 30 years, never a call back for a valley leak we did.. please explain to me how this is lazy? Cuz to me an ugly open metal valley is the lazy way.. looks like crap too
@robrobson7522
@robrobson7522 3 жыл бұрын
Facts! I run 2 courses up at a time. Lay outside shingle first and butt valley shingle into outside shingle. More efficient and straighter for sure
@Dt-kz5mi
@Dt-kz5mi 11 ай бұрын
Crazy seeing the Crown Point shirt. Fellow NWI shingler here. I started roofing earlier this year and your videos have helped me tremendously. Thank you!
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 11 ай бұрын
AWESOME! You ever want some side work or to learn hands on shoot me a message on fb! I'm always roofing out here
@markritayik8599
@markritayik8599 3 жыл бұрын
The starter shingle should be nailed low over the drip edge so the wind can’t blow it up. If you’re going to run a bleeder and point out of a valley you shouldn’t snap your line in the center of the valley you should snap it on the up slope so water doesn’t want to go underneath your bleeder. This looks like a about a 3/12 pitch to me and the underlayment should be 2 plied on the half lap. On a slope this low this valley should be woven. When you weave a valley there is no seem for the water to go underneath and you get 2 layers of shingles where a lot of the water runs. This guy has some more to learn about shingling. Take it from a guy who has been doing this nearly 40 years.
@thomasgranville3604
@thomasgranville3604 2 жыл бұрын
just put valley metal. problem solved lol
@Jojo-lr7ef
@Jojo-lr7ef 4 жыл бұрын
Been doing it like that for years never had an issue
@scottmk5
@scottmk5 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping an amateur DIYer
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
glad I can help
@user-ex1ns1pe8t
@user-ex1ns1pe8t 2 ай бұрын
Hi. Im not a hater. Everyone's can do as they please. I live in North Central Nebraska. Been replacing shingles on roofs here since 1984. Mostly steeper pitches. 6/12 to 8/12. Have done 12/12. The flater roofs can be done by the do it yourselfers, or new roofers starting out. I'm not saying i won't do 4/12. But when i do 4/12 and have valleys, i will not put a nail any closer than 16" of the center of the valley. On steeper pitches i wont go closer than 12". The older houses have steeper pitches. They can still get debris, (leaves and small branches) collected in the valleys. They don't always wash out. Especially when the valley is above a porch. The porch can be a 4/12. People can see the debris but dont put forth any significance to the eye sore. It is what it is. In this area we used to have significant snow falls in the fall, maybe starting in October. Would have maybe 5 inches one week. Warm up a little, then another 5". Warm up a little, get some snow melting. Then get real cold. Then more snow. That first snow might not leave till April. Sometime around the early 90's the weather pattern seemed to change a little. We don't seem to get the snow from the fall staying on till the spring like we used to. Well in those times when the snow stays on the roof and or ground through the freeze and thaw cycles, the snow on the roof looks just fine. The older houses the heat from inside the house would warm the roof under the snow. It is surprising how that process can create an ice dam, and water will wick up under the shingles in the valleys. Maybe the moisture never shows up inside the ceiling. But that moisture will come through at every hole created in the valley.
@frankyoliva8048
@frankyoliva8048 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know where you got your roofing lessons! Sir !
@allennix1052
@allennix1052 4 жыл бұрын
From Owen Cornings you have a problem with that..
@johnc6617
@johnc6617 4 жыл бұрын
I went on my porch roof past two days to shingle. First time ever 1. Roofs ate hot real hot everything gets hot crapbwill burn your hands and knees 2. No idea how you just walk around I was scared as crap
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha man I was shaking the first time I got on a ladder. I was shaking when they gave me a tear off shovel. it lasted 20 minutes tho n never came back lol
@indianaunlimitediuroyalty3969
@indianaunlimitediuroyalty3969 4 жыл бұрын
Bro....I'm in Indiana...first of all I want to show up on your jobsite and show u how fast you arent..2nd get use to seeing me.....kareem hunter
@Remrie
@Remrie 4 жыл бұрын
Uh-OH! We got Mr. Fort Wayne over here puffing up his feathers with his nest building skillz. Look out!
@HectorArrambide-vf4lg
@HectorArrambide-vf4lg 5 ай бұрын
Awsome job thanks for the video
@joshhorn5131
@joshhorn5131 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos Man, learn something every time
@Mark_The_Mayven
@Mark_The_Mayven 4 жыл бұрын
Out on the west coast it used to be called a “California Weave” and thats going back 30 years. They work great and last a long time-EXCEPT if the homeowner is a pain in the ass and constantly goes on the roof.. Then you run valley metal and run a bead of 204 the whole length.. 🤔 Nice!
@audex
@audex 4 жыл бұрын
marxg4 i always prefer to put metal with low pitched roofs like the one in the video, you know, just in case
@stormshadow1512
@stormshadow1512 4 жыл бұрын
with all do respect, you need a mic
@holsterseven
@holsterseven 3 жыл бұрын
Never done a closed valley with Architectural Shingles. We just added a small porch. Watched your video at least 6 times in progress. Waiting for rain. Thumbs up. Thanks
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction 3 жыл бұрын
hell yea! hope it went well lol let me know if it leaks i'll have to be more clear on the next one lmao
@lonniefreeman4278
@lonniefreeman4278 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and the tricks
@HighRidgeHandyman
@HighRidgeHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Get closer boycup!! Zoom kid!
@affordablesolutions8516
@affordablesolutions8516 4 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure he is saying "boycub"
@ChrisXCXCX
@ChrisXCXCX 4 жыл бұрын
Minds boggled I'm out. No way I could keep track what nail pattern I did here or there. If I did this for a living there would be a lot of leaky roofs LMAO. Gonna stay a bug man.
@williamcutrell7456
@williamcutrell7456 4 жыл бұрын
ive seen plent of people nail in the seem with no problems
@robertjock8905
@robertjock8905 3 жыл бұрын
Cool your shows getting better and better keep it up from RooferBob400
@dameronlyon6740
@dameronlyon6740 2 жыл бұрын
I was like huh at the explanation but I can see he knows what's going on!Great job
@timbibin1301
@timbibin1301 3 жыл бұрын
Usually when Im nailing down the starter, I nail low, so my nails hit the drip edge.. anyone else do that?
@Greenfrom3
@Greenfrom3 3 жыл бұрын
I put 3 low and 2 high. Not sure why exactly.
@kylebrett1453
@kylebrett1453 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, im not the only one on the planet who nails the starter through the drip. I have worked on crews that use alluminum drip edge and they staple it on with their prep and tell me its ok because the starter will hold it down. But then they fail to nail the starter low enough
@Greenfrom3
@Greenfrom3 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylebrett1453 yeah. It's honestly sad the workmanship of some roofers. That's why my brother in law and myself are the only people I trust to nail on my crew. It's just common sense to nail the starter low for wind purposes as well as the drip edge.
@kylebrett1453
@kylebrett1453 3 жыл бұрын
@HONEST ONE what do you mean by bull your starter? Ive never heard of that one and maybe im missing out on something i dont know. Thanks
@amazingcaucasian1
@amazingcaucasian1 3 жыл бұрын
The starters combined with the ice and water should seal the shingle within hours in the summer and maybe a day or two in the winter. No need to nail low. The lower you nail the higher chance of ice melt you have finding a nail and causing a leak. Especially on the bottom where all the water is and where most water collects due to a failed gutter system. Nails are meant to hold the shingle in place until the shingle seals. The tar strip on the shingle is what seals the shingle to another shingle not necessarily the nails
@trevorbracken4762
@trevorbracken4762 4 жыл бұрын
4:36 he drives a nail out in the open and leaves it. Nice!! LOL.
@bennydarko
@bennydarko 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it didn't shoot. I've used those things enough to hear the difference by sound.
@Damascuss07
@Damascuss07 4 жыл бұрын
No...
@bradrob2863
@bradrob2863 Жыл бұрын
I started roofing like two years ago found u 6 months ago.Me and my twin bro have worked for a lot of roofing companies and found one I love but the foreman is sooooo prideful and hatful and runs evreyone off .me and my bro said I don’t care and finally shingled by ourselves a 16 square garage .FOR SOME REASON LOL DUDE ISNT HAPPY FOR US SND IS JUST A NASTY PERSONALITY WHILE WORKING.INSAID THAT TO SAY THAT ME AND MY BRO THINK U ARE SUCH A GREAT LEADER AND I BELEIVE MEN THAT ARE ABOVE OTHERS SHOULD SERVE AND TEACH OTHER MEN AND NOT HATE . HEY .HOW FINDING A BOSS LIKE YOURSELF IS SO RARE .YOUR METHODS ARE FOR SURE AND DEFF WORK .
@NWIVeteranConstruction
@NWIVeteranConstruction Жыл бұрын
thank you! best of luck my friend
@isaakenns1310
@isaakenns1310 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Im a roofer myself running my own business and do closed valleys 100% the same.. just thought id see if it was just me or not haha
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