Going through the raising steam process on Ja1271 at Steam Inc, Paekakariki a day before an excursion Just having a play with the camera and video software. www.steaminc.org.nz
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@markg9999 жыл бұрын
You don't turn on a steam engine you bring it to life.
@nyotamwuaji64847 жыл бұрын
Mark G correct! a steam locomotive is a slumbering beast and must be roused from its sleep properly.
@SoddyMcWombat7 жыл бұрын
I think the new locos have those fancy keyless ignitions.
@rockinrowdy139 жыл бұрын
Great video..love those steam locos. I had the opportunity to pick an 1830's vintage loco up in Chicago back in the 80's and deliver it to the Essex Steam Train Depot in Essex Connecticut for refurbishing < I was a trucker back then>
@jamesshanks26147 жыл бұрын
Back in 1970 I happened to be in NJ where I helped and watched Nickle Plate 759 come to life from ice cold to a full head of steam. What do you use to build a fire on the grates when no regular firewood is available? Why old railroad ties of course, it took just over 7 hours to finally get enough steam to run the blower and finally get the smoke out of the cab. Prior to lighting the fire I spent a few hours crawling under the brake beams but on top of the ties to grease the brake beams and driver boxes, gawd I wish I was that skinny again. When we finally had steam for the blower it also meant we had steam for the cab heaters. Oh yeah the boiler from ice cold to working pressure expands horizontally as much as an inch and a half. And yes it is fascinating listening to her come back to life, without any compressed air to run the blower so the cab was full of smoke until finally we had steam for the blower, not fun with a cab full of smoke.
@SKYREAPER308 жыл бұрын
Fuck man total RESPECT to the poor engineers back in the day who had to do this every day or every week. We're so lucky today all engineers have to do is turn a switch or a key and then the train is on the way.
@thedoctor60618 жыл бұрын
They would of just thought it a job but they deserve respect. Tbh you don't just flick a switch
@bigkiwimike11 жыл бұрын
It is indeed. This is a ''Detroit'' lubricator and is used to lubricate the air pump, cylinders and valves of the loco. To quote Wikipedia; The displacement lubricator was introduced in the United Kingdom in 1860 by John Ramsbottom. It operates by allowing steam to enter a closed vessel containing oil. After condensing, the water sinks to the bottom of the vessel, causing the oil to rise and overflow into delivery pipes for delivery to the valves and cylinders.
@charlieinsingapore8 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Peter, I've had the privilege of driving 1271 around the loop at Paekak and your video brought all the memories back to life. Thanks again!
@FenderFoamer11 жыл бұрын
I love American steam but this loco takes the cake!! I have seen pictures of this engine before and it resembles that of an american Steam loco with Pyle generator & headlight and many other apurnaces. Great job at making this video for all of us steam fans and not for Cockroach2008
@nobodycares856 жыл бұрын
There is something special about Steam engines. I know it's a machine and not really living but it's almost as though it's more than that. I don't know really how to put it into words.
@rexluminus98676 жыл бұрын
Nobody Well said. It's like a living breathing 🔥hot 🐉dragon! ***
@Xbox_HonorGuard_Ra10 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I'd ever get to see one of these wake up and go to work. I'm so happy that some of the old steam engines are receiving the love and care they need to roam the rails once more. Long live steam!
@whorayful6 жыл бұрын
Only a true editing genius could have timed the turbo generator spooling up at 7:47 !
@ccgbassandmore32 жыл бұрын
haha i get it
@enyha7 жыл бұрын
Easy to see why diesels took over so quickly, very skilled and slow to raise full head of steam, but still wonderful.
@Xolivas111 жыл бұрын
It's so amaizing to see what goes into bringing a steam locomotive to life. Love it every time. :D
@hughvane8 жыл бұрын
A neighbour, back in the 1950's, had the job as fireman (as opposed to stoker), and it was his job at 4 am each working day - rain, hail or shine - to drive the mile or so to the local rail yards to clean out and then fire up the steam engines, the job you see being done here, neither of which was under cover. He used to return home after a 4 hour shift for his breakfast, and time out, to return another 5 hours later for his second four hour shift, when he would shut the locos down by 5 pm. Almost everything stopped at 5 o'clock back in those days. Old Jack was happy to retire when diesel engines appeared on the scene.
@stanleycarter62758 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind that hella allot more interesting than siting writing reports all day
@thaddeusjwarszawskijr84347 жыл бұрын
hughvane l
@coolbluelights10 жыл бұрын
you have to put in the colored logs to make it go 88 mph
@clhound9 жыл бұрын
1.21 GIGAWATTS!?
@SirDeanosity8 жыл бұрын
+clhound 1.21 JIGAWATTS!?
@rondaxen887 жыл бұрын
Back to the future.
@shaunlionudakis82517 жыл бұрын
THE WHOLE BOILER EXPLODES!!!!!!! I have actually seen that train and my family got a private tour of that set Used to pass it all the time and was cot in the filming of the night shoots shut high way down for a couple hours Sadly the clock tower fell down and then the year we moved out of California that whole set burnt to the ground in one of many wild fires that year A bit of trivia the bullets used in the saloon were real not blanks
@nobodycares856 жыл бұрын
You lucky person, that is so cool.
@johnlong70936 жыл бұрын
We see you pass through Shannon most Saturdays. Fantastic sight.
@m0ther_bra1ned127 жыл бұрын
A bunch of little machines making up one big engine. Very cool.
@Mike-tg7dj6 жыл бұрын
Old steam engines are amazing! I'm stymied at the amount of lubricants that these beasts use and without that life blood very bad things can happen. I can only imagine what would have happened if a bearing seized up on one of the main wheel bearings where the piston arm is converted to power.
@jasonthedogcatcher8 жыл бұрын
They dont make em like this anymore. Beautiful piece of machinery. Thanks for sharing.
@hilham897 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video I have always loved the steam locomotives as a kid and I still do. just an amazing machine
@bigkiwimike11 жыл бұрын
The shed blower is really just to keep the smoke out of the cab until the loco can do it herself.
@RichardGMoss10 жыл бұрын
For those of us who don't know what is going on a commentary would be very helpful
@BBVCorvettec6200512 жыл бұрын
7:45 when the dynamo is turned on sounds like a turbo with boost building
@Brian55811 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to shoot and edit this. As someone that only works on steamboats it's always fun to watch your guys tricks for everything. I like the compressed air stack ring for the initial draft.
@jambocoo7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I would have never guessed there was so much to do to operate this locomotive. Thanks for sharing.
@mikewmount6 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Thanks so much for sharing with us.
@Prowler90112 жыл бұрын
Great video! And, what a beautiful locomotive. You guys are doing a great job keeping her in top shape. Keep up the great work!
@grahamelamblamb31987 жыл бұрын
aw man 50 things to do before your fired up steam locomotive even moves..now I want a train..for historic interests...
@larrylewislarry12 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful machine. I wish we had more large live steam locomotives in Christchurch. Thanks for posting and keep up the great work.
@flashesofblack41286 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video. I worked as a stationary operating engineer for over twenty years for a large hospital. I ran a battery of four 150 ton Scotch marine boilers. All of the boilers throttling was automated. Just about the only thing I had to do was to make sure the boiler feed water had the correct chemicals and that the deaerator was functioning properly. I had to check boiler operation once an hour, but these guys had their work cut out for them. Very labor intensive compared to what I had to do with managing the boiler plant.
@sathiyaseelanr57695 жыл бұрын
Hai ! Friends I go back to my teen age in 1965 iam school boy daily travel by this train really I enjoy four years with my friends "oh"what a sweet day I thanks to indian railways and treir staff thankyou from tamilnadu sathya.
@lorneteskey39322 жыл бұрын
As a young boy in the 40's before all regulations if you asked politely the engineer would let you ride in cab . the engine would pick up grain cars from village elevators and deliver down branch lines to CNR mainline. Those were the days when a prairie boy could get the thrill of a lifetime before safety rules spoiled it for next generation.
@RobertPaterson10 жыл бұрын
I can see why steam can be a love affair
@bretnielsen90568 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting!!! Love it!
@SDCustoms8 жыл бұрын
Now THAT's railroading!
@IronheadOfScroteus11 жыл бұрын
It must be something to feel this beast come to life.
@mikepowell9268 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting , never think of "getting them started" --only after all that and heading along the tracks. Thanks--
@MrSkunkwork10012 жыл бұрын
Yes! Amen. Thanks for uploading! I always knew that the trainmen of days of old worked their tails off, but my gosh: seeing what goes into just getting a locomotive started, in a procedure-by-procedure start-up like that, really brings it home.
@Imintune...7 жыл бұрын
Hell of a ritual of getting it up to steam.
@EveningStar9F13 жыл бұрын
Wow - great video leadingtruck, love the removable blower ring, i guess it must be a NZ thing - I use a pedestal fan sitting on a milk crate til I've got about 30PSI - gets the job done! Adding notes of whats happening is a fantastic idea.
@skrame0110 жыл бұрын
Awesome! It would be great to see some description of what is going on and why!
@brycenew4 жыл бұрын
This might give you some of what you're after kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rt5phJuB1c6lhqM.html
@CSX477211 жыл бұрын
Compressed came from an air tank or generator. Its used to draw the initial draft, and initial boiler filling. After steam pressure is built up enough, steam can be used to keep the draft and run essential equipment.
@tasman76312 жыл бұрын
terrific video . love it . hope there are more coming ! many thanks from a waimate steam fan
@whatdoidonext22346 жыл бұрын
love the Vanderbilt style tender (what we call them here in the US) Good ol' PN dynamo whine, and the NZ 5 chime whistle (GREAT sounding as are the South African 3 and 5 chimes). Glad to see you backed 1/4 turn off of the turret. That way if someone jumps up there, there is some slack to let them know it is already open instead of them trying to force it open. There are enough video's with commentaries. I just like hearing the sounds of the engine being brought to live instead of someone talking over it or worse yet, using a computer generated voice to narrate it. Great job!
@welshpete127 жыл бұрын
Here in Britain it was very rare to light a fire in a steam engine from cold . If not needed the fire would be left banked up , a low fire so to be ready when needed . I have been told it took three days to get a engine ready .If for any reason the fire had to be put out . One of the reasons it took so long , is the fire had to be built up slowly, not to distort the fire box , with excusive heat in one spot .
@tkx8613 жыл бұрын
@leadingtruck Thankyou for sharing this with us mate! i bookmarked this! My great grand dad Tom stinson was a steam loco tech/driver over here in oz. As im sure you know we have High quality iron ore fields and there were sooo many stories shared from him! one was of him delivering iron ore loads to the docks and greeting the Japanese captain and as he asked what the iron ore was for the Japanese captain laughed and made a gun sign with his hands and went bang. This was shortly before the war.
@rexluminus98676 жыл бұрын
👍Great video. The beast is ready. Thank you, loved it.
@daveogarf6 жыл бұрын
Esteemed Gentlemen; It would be greatly appreciated, not only if you could add some narration, maybe even in the form of subtitling, but also give us a brief history of the locomotive: its age, size, gauge, where it served, when it was retired, when/where/how it was restored and put into service again... There is so much that we could learn from this video! Thanks awfully. Warmest regards, Dave Bogan
@DaveInBridport7 жыл бұрын
I'm a member of a steam preservation group. on the 1st Jan every year we fire up our 0-6-0 EX-GWR locomotive but not before we each take a dump in the firebox. It's something we've done every year since 2009. Call it superstition...
@bigkiwimike7 жыл бұрын
Southmead Lad That's so screwed up!
@DaveInBridport7 жыл бұрын
You say that but consider this: we have had no derailments or boiler explosions since we have been dumping our arse filth in the firebox...
@bigkiwimike7 жыл бұрын
Southmead Lad. I've been playing with loco, ship, traction engine and stationary boilers for over 35 years and haven't had any problems either. We just follow best practice and common sense. We still don't dump in the firebox. Still weird.
@DaveInBridport7 жыл бұрын
perhaps we'll stop and see what happens...
@bigkiwimike7 жыл бұрын
Southmead Lad Lol. Good luck. All the best!
@guypatterson733411 жыл бұрын
This is good information. If I ever run across one of these, and someone has left the keys in it.......
@nlo1148 жыл бұрын
Every time I see someone emerge backwards from a smoke box, I expect them to blink slowly through sooty eyes, like Oliver Hardy in the chimney-sweep film.
@1225Forrest11 жыл бұрын
They are truly a labor of love!
@gordonmccoy45376 жыл бұрын
Fascinating - Thanks...! Gordon
@javedahmad75138 жыл бұрын
so beautiful, I was lucky to ride a couple of times in India. I was in high school, now can't. timed have changed.
@heartfire4519 жыл бұрын
It is actually beautiful to see the love these men have for that old gal.
@StarMarvellionInSg11 жыл бұрын
What a tedious job. Respect these guys !
@missyd0g28 жыл бұрын
Labor of love. Thank you for sharing
@tasman76314 жыл бұрын
great footage. wonderful DETAIL ! thanks to all . More Please ?
@916fanatic16 жыл бұрын
Good video, fairly thorough
@MbiraguyGames11 жыл бұрын
What a video! Thanks for putting this together.
@thomasninan9478 жыл бұрын
it's hard work operating a steam locomotive from start up to drive till the end
@bluumax7 жыл бұрын
Listen to the jingle, the rumble and roar... I wish there were still steamers running past my place. Shawn. Old West Hwy Duncan, AZ
@Cockroach200811 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very flattering compliment! I sincerely appreciate it!
@Shane-Singleton6 жыл бұрын
Doc! The red log's about to BLOOOWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!
@captainredneck06839 жыл бұрын
As much as I love steam trains I gotta say they seem like a real pain in the butt to operate. I can kinda see how diesels took over.
@KiwiPowerNZ9 жыл бұрын
***** Not a pain in the butt at all. It's those extra things you have to do that makes them better than diesels! It's a labor of love. Think of the millions of people who lost their jobs when diesels came in. We are seeing history repeat itself in the supermarket with self service checkouts. The easier we make things, automation of jobs etc, the more unemployment. Steam tech will always be better in more ways than one ( :
@PreservationEnthusiast8 жыл бұрын
+KiwiPowerNZ Steam locomotives are nasty, polluting, and high maintenance. Cut them apart, break them up, and melt them down for scrap!
@KiwiPowerNZ8 жыл бұрын
***** I've seen that same comment on a lot of videos haha
@PreservationEnthusiast8 жыл бұрын
***** Just because I hold a different opinion to you, that does not make me a troll. Break all steam locos for scrap now!
@MrWhite-pn7ui8 жыл бұрын
+KiwiPowerNZ Hardly accurate to compare a diesel engine to self service checkouts. They still require plenty of manpower to keep running.
@marksommers67646 жыл бұрын
You "played" well , a fine video ! Thanks
@gregcatanzaro49068 жыл бұрын
I would love this guy to make another one and explain each step. A great starter vid though
@NullaNulla7 жыл бұрын
Would have loved a commentary on what each valve was for and why they check or change each bit. Loved the sound of the dynamo spinning up. Good video anyway.
@tld550012 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how they start up and what you have to do. Thanks for sharing, it answered many questions I had. Still curious what the other parts are, but I will find out eventually
@Bronywithguns87012 жыл бұрын
i knew that starting a steam engine up was complicated but i never knew that you had to do all this.
@djfitzgerald1115 жыл бұрын
The editing was done very well.
@tasman76311 жыл бұрын
Love steam. Never stop . Its very very cool . She IS alive, you do dig this ? She has pressure and heartbeat and temperature . And she IS beautiful. Its a steam operated firedoor , yes, off a foot valve . The thingy in the smokestack is a blower to force draft to get the fire ( wood ) going well. Yes, thats a generator , yes, for lights . The teapots ? you mean oil cans ? She needs oil in quite a few places internal and external. The valves....haha ! the answer is in a book !
@13spdRoadranger11 жыл бұрын
This is what it used to take to get the world started everyday. :) Really neat, thanks for sharing! :)
@robweckert568910 жыл бұрын
Excellent Vid !
@Madnessofmusic11 жыл бұрын
No, they usually just fall through the fire bars and down into the ash pan, then they just stay there until they're scraped out at the end of the day with the rest of the ash and waste.
@jamesshanks26147 жыл бұрын
Aleksandar Katic That's what a hydrostatic lubricator looks like in service, if a locomotive built with a hydrostatic lubricator remained in service on a big railroad more than likely the replaced the hydrostatic lubricator was replaced with a mechanical lubricator, which used steam only on a heating circuit to keep the oil warm and the mechanical lubricator pumped oil into the areas the mechanical department wants it to. And are adjustable to increase or decrease the oil flow to each individual point pumping precise amounts of oil which saved the railroads money. There are two mechanical pumps on each steam locomotive, one is marked engine oil the other is marked lubrication which supplies oil to any point needed for lubrication. Best example of modern steam power using mechanical lubrication to its advantage is Norfolk and Western class J passenger power which could run 500 miles before needing service, but that class of engine was all roller bearing on all axles and rods and when needing service generally took one hour to completely service the engine. So that takes us basically from 1860 when the hydrostatic lubricator was invented to the end of steam in the United States. The Norfolk and Western didn't retire steam locomotives because they liked the Diesel locomotive, they did so because all the companies that provided the auxiliary systems went out of business and it would have been too expensive to build all the systems themselves. Because of N&W belief in steam they were the last class 1 railroad to retire steam power in 1960.
@Higgen00714 жыл бұрын
same here...i just recently learned what that sound was coming from, ive always heard that sound before, but i never knew what it was, or exactly where it was coming from
@ssnoc5 жыл бұрын
You can tell they love it 😊
@emdman195911 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I know enough about steam locomotive to be dangerous (lol) but being a railroad engineer myself for CSX here in America I was able to figure out everything that you were doing. Just wish it was a bit longer with some naration.
@airbornerider19729 жыл бұрын
very exiting actually beautiful to see the love these men have for that old gal.
@SteveWrightNZ8 жыл бұрын
I think many people disliked closed the video immediately when they saw the diesel loco start up. Very interesting to see the cold start though - I did wonder how they got draught with no steam, and now I see! ;)
@Firebirdking618 жыл бұрын
+Steve Wright I almost did until I saw your comment.
@robertgift8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Wright Would be fun to see if draft would naturally establish through the steam locomotive's boiler.Presumably it would, since many flues are higher than the fire and the chimney (smoke stack) would also increase draft.
@MrDibbsey7 жыл бұрын
Steve Wright if the wind is blowing the right way and the loco is still warm from the day before its not too bad, if not you just stay out if the cab as much as possible till you've got the pressure to crack the blower.
@jamesshanks26146 жыл бұрын
I've fired up a S class NKP class 2-8-4 using just natural draught with an ice cold boiler using old railroad ties cut up into 3 foot lengths and your looking at just to reach 150 pounds steam pressure right around 24 hours. Remember the boiler is a pressure vessel and with a boiler that size it expands more than an inch and 1/2 in length from ice cold to hot at 150 pounds working pressure being 275 PSI. The wood he used is a lot easier than using old railroad ties. I didn't have old journal waste to start the wood on fire so I improvised and poured right around 3 gallons of diesel fuel onto all the pieces of old ties I threw into the firebox and even using 5 minute fusses it still took two attempts to finally get the fire going. 19 hours later I finally had steam out the blower but no pressure on the steam gauge and even then you don't run the blower wide open. You close the firebox door and keep the blower low enough to keep smoke out of the cab and bring the boiler pressure up very slowly. The locomotive in this video has a small firebox where the engine I was waking up has 100 square feet of grate area and while it is stoker fired you can't use the stoker until you build up your fire and level it off then build up the bank in a horseshoe shape so when you go to work the draught doesn't tear the fire apart. Not a fun thing to do in March and you sure do appreciate the heat when you can turn it on in the cab. Yes diesels are easier to fire up but steam is like some else said you bring her to life.
@TheScrappingJeahaha10 жыл бұрын
nice piece of machinery i love them :D
@rdas18811 жыл бұрын
fascinating process! thanks for the upload =)
@tonyjones997 жыл бұрын
Love this video!
@fenix47068 жыл бұрын
brilliant vid. thanks for this.
@1989JROG9 жыл бұрын
This is why I like steam engines
@ExodiaFTW12 жыл бұрын
cool vid thanks dude i love steam engines
@royreynolds1089 жыл бұрын
A 17 ton three foot guage 4-4-0 takes about 1.5 to 2 hours to fire up from cold to being able to move a train. I have done it numerous times and with a propane fire.
@TheSonic101609 жыл бұрын
Roy Reynolds This is a 70 tonne (69.1 long tons, 77.4 short tons) NZR Ja-Class 3'6" gauge 4-8-2, I believe it takes around 6-8 hours to go from cold to running (Don't quote me on that, I've only worked on much smaller tank engines on the same gauge.) Also, a propane fire in a steam locomotive?
@haroldreardon80708 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there is NO commentary to go along with the video so we all know no more than we did when we started watching it.
@camp7NdN8 жыл бұрын
Its still a relaxing video to watch
@2boredfortv8 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of old 30's videos showing the ins and outs of making, starting, and driving the old locos. They are all very interesting
@stitch777711 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Like some others have said, It would be really nice for a longer video with some narration. Would really like to see that.
@eltonjohnfan10014 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the steam generator at 7:45!
@WillieBeard12 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!
@davidangler468011 жыл бұрын
I love the details on the startup, you even included the lube. I still would like to have seen some comments on what was happening.
@brycenew4 жыл бұрын
This is well explained: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rt5phJuB1c6lhqM.html
@markcarey842611 жыл бұрын
So many things to remember! Skilled job. Would've liked to have some commentary.
@speed150mph10 жыл бұрын
Lol and a gevo, you flip a couple switches, and push 1 button. God we are lazy XD
@ty.Tibor1233 жыл бұрын
Great detail
@marvncat6 жыл бұрын
He opened so many valves
@SoCalUSN5 жыл бұрын
BT's always work better under pressure ;)
@brysongrondin12 жыл бұрын
this is amazing. LONG LIVE STEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@BCSchmerker12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for some insight on igniting and steaming up a coal-fired locomotive. BTW, is sand needed to remove the wood residue from the tubes and flues, once the fire is on the coal? (The wood leaves creosote deposits on the tubes and flues during the first half-hour of the ignition process.)