Lightning infill is new in cura 4.12 beta. But what on earth is it?

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Lost In Tech

Lost In Tech

Күн бұрын

So, as the video says, after my monumental 10 day marathon and before I fix my broken printer (yes, yes, you all want me to fit a DD...don't worry, I'm on it!). Where was I? Oh yes. I had to reinstall windows and all the other stuff, and noticed that cura was a new version. Seriously, how did I not see that? Must have been too busy making content!
Lightning supports though. I actually think they're pretty huge. In case you hadn't gathered that.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Cura's release note
1:14 - Ribbed support vaults paper
1:36 - Premise for using ribbed supports
1:50 - Hollow objects and local minima
2:15 - Low density infill considerations
3:12 - Lightning infill as alternative to traditional supports
3:40 - Why lightning infill uses less material
4:00 - When to use lightning infill?
4:20 - Practical demonstration
4:49 - How much filament do you save?
5:26 - Side by side finish comparison
6:25 - So, it's an important feature?
Credits:
Music: Ouroboros Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@Lakrimoz
@Lakrimoz 2 жыл бұрын
I've printed a number of large pieces for a model ship so far using lightning infill, and the hull so far has printed perfectly and almost completely hollow - the end result is a perfectly structured piece that isn't brittle but weighs much lighter that printed 20% faster with 80% less material. (80% may be exaggerated, but its ALOT of material saving)
@Iamwolf134
@Iamwolf134 2 жыл бұрын
Material that can easily be applied elsewhere.
@theodoremurdock9984
@theodoremurdock9984 2 жыл бұрын
If you print an alot with the material you saved, it could even be true literally.
@walterkennedy9474
@walterkennedy9474 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for the model? I’m about to undertake a 1:125 scale print of a destroyer I designed.
@Lakrimoz
@Lakrimoz 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterkennedy9474 I used 20% infill with 3.2 line distance which I think is default, had no problems with this. Print speed 50mm/s and 35mm/s wall, t/b and support speed. The keel prints better perpendicular to the build plate to minimize visible print layers, so angled 90 degrees as if the bow is pointing straight up. Obviously cut your pieces into parts that require little to no support if possible. Suggest a resin printer for small detailed parts and decorations.
@walterkennedy9474
@walterkennedy9474 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lakrimoz figured as much for the print direction, arrangement to avoid supports and resin printing. What materials do you use? Do you intend to sand and paint your models? If so, what paints?
@PenitentHollow
@PenitentHollow 2 жыл бұрын
This was much better coverage than I've seen the lightning infill receive. Thank you for explaining how useful this setting really is.
@dgkimpton
@dgkimpton 2 жыл бұрын
Seems very logical, although why it's a type of infill I don't know. It seems that "Internal Supports" would be a valuable new category that is actually orthogonal to Infill. I can see using a Grid or Gyroid for structural strength and still wanting to run this "lightening" algorithm (or some other internal support algo) afterwards to improve the support of minima. Still, good progress!
@HowToComputeMore
@HowToComputeMore 2 жыл бұрын
I think every infill is a form of internal supports + stability (except lightning)
@technik27
@technik27 2 жыл бұрын
Not exactly orthogonal, as you wouldn't be able to turn on both internal supports and infill at the same time.
@dgkimpton
@dgkimpton 2 жыл бұрын
@@technik27 you can't /yet/ but I also can't imagine why you wouldn't want to. A 5% grid for integrity and then lightening supports for bridging that could even use the infill as a start point.
@Ucceah
@Ucceah 2 жыл бұрын
dang you really have a point! a very low density gyroid infill plus "lightning" internal supports would be an absolute winning combo.
@Tomaskom
@Tomaskom 2 жыл бұрын
It's not exactly what you are describing, but gradual infill gets pretty close, although it's denser under any top surface, not just those that really need it. But if you subdivide it 1-2 steps, you use half or quarter infill density in the rest of the internal volume :)
@martylawson1638
@martylawson1638 2 жыл бұрын
This infill would also be great when you want to fill a part with epoxy or some other 2-part resin.
@imacmill
@imacmill 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and by golly, yes!
@HenrikMyrhaug
@HenrikMyrhaug 2 жыл бұрын
One disadvantage of lightning infill might be that it could lead to larger parts being more top- heavy.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen this comment a lot, it makes sense on the face of it, but I find it doesn't seem to happen in reality, the infill is so thin. Of course it could be countered with more bottom layers if it was an issue, say if you were printing a human head or something. I had a horrible idea about using it to print stacked dice. 🤣
@ChibiKami
@ChibiKami 2 жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D stacked dice are the first thing I thought of
@dsp4392
@dsp4392 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ChibiKami Most 3d printed dice will be stacked anyways due to walls and top/bottom not being constructed in the same way. Printing a decently fair dice requires either going with a roller dice design (printed vertically, with seams positioned randomly), or printing each face separately (so 6 pyramids for a six-sided dice) and assembling them.
@Smokinjoewhite
@Smokinjoewhite Жыл бұрын
@@dsp4392 That's why you print them solid as accurately as possible then sand them to be even. I have rolled a 3d printed dice 100 times and calculated the probability and it is within margin of error compared to a regular dice. Not an issue at all. Also always print them at 100% infill, of course doing otherwise will likely give stacked results.
@dickskinthin9192
@dickskinthin9192 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to be able to combine this lighting infill with a very minimal, maybe 5% line or grid infill. I feel like the combination of the two would give you a perfect balance of support in exactly where it's needed and rigidity.
@bymitten1
@bymitten1 2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't already, you could try using the "gradual infill" setting in Cura. If you set the infill density to say, 25% with three "steps", it'll print the majority on the model at 6.25% (25 ÷ 2 ÷ 2) infill, followed by 12.5% and then 25% for the last 3mm.
@PaulMillhouse7
@PaulMillhouse7 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and was thinking the same thing while watching the video. Would be nice to combine infill methods. Would like to print at something like 5% or even 1% infill to get structural support throughout and then the lightning supports just where they're needed.
@dexter-wy5bo
@dexter-wy5bo Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you add the model twice, go to per model settings, do one with 5% infill and the other with lightning infill, then merge the models?
@dickskinthin9192
@dickskinthin9192 Жыл бұрын
@@dexter-wy5bo how would you go about doing this?
@draggy76
@draggy76 2 жыл бұрын
Not just material, time as well. I've a model that before would have taken me over 3 days to print, with the new lightening option it basically cut a whole day off. I 100% plan to test and use this new feature.
@d3m0n54in7
@d3m0n54in7 2 жыл бұрын
This is a huge benefit!
@sftzclem
@sftzclem 2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow! Thanks for shining a light on the little known esoteric features. Your video was clear and concise. I've just been compelled to try Cura again just of this one feature.
@rrrlasse2
@rrrlasse2 2 жыл бұрын
If you use the default 20% infill and just set "Gradual Infill Steps" to 2, you will get 5% infill for most of the volume, and 20% in a thin layer just below all the overhangs where it's needed. I prefer that, because bigger objects are not very rigid with "Lightning".
@methujeraya
@methujeraya 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Ive been trying to figure out how to print infill only where I need it
@lllllllllllillllllll
@lllllllllllillllllll 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah gradual infill steps are good for things that need to be less flimsy that you know where they will be loaded from. I made a stand for something and saved a ton of plastic by doing that. I mostly do functional prints so I don't think I will have much use for this new infill as I typically need a strong part from all sides. However, it's always super cool to see the advancements in 3d printing just from the software side, and this very clearly will help reduce filament usage and print times for prints that can take advantage of less infill.
@FiveToTheFifth
@FiveToTheFifth 2 жыл бұрын
Is that what Lost in Tech is using at 2:55? I want to replicate that infill for a project.
@lllllllllllillllllll
@lllllllllllillllllll 2 жыл бұрын
@@FiveToTheFifth yeah that's it. You'll have to show the settings first as I think they're hidden by default.
@jangrewe
@jangrewe 2 жыл бұрын
Great, this shows up a week after i had to print a 1 kg, 30cm (or: one spool, one print) Deadpool head, on which i spent a couple of hours tweaking walls and gradual infill to stay just below 1kg while maximizing the print height... this Lightning infill would have been exactly what i needed: more walls, less infill, more height, and still
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
Well I can only see one solution here - print more Deadpool heads!
@davidolsen1222
@davidolsen1222 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, literally. Running off something highly specific which is time sensitive and every hour counts and I needed to keep the time down and lightning literally would have saved me 5 hours. Could also be part of the reason for the name. Looks like lightning... goes really fast.
@jmunkki
@jmunkki 2 жыл бұрын
Another take on this would be what you might call spiderweb internal support. It looks like lightning support still starts from the bottom of the print and I can also see that it's often not connected at both ends. Instead, spiderweb support would leave the bottom of the print empty and start bridging across the print before the internal support is needed to build a net on top of which more dense structure can be built (still supported by strands from the side of the print). As a designer, I like to make models that have supports in the model instead of relying on slicers. Similarly, for an isolated local minimum in a top surface, you can hollow out the model below it to create an invisible internal pillar.
@jeffwells641
@jeffwells641 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like it does both from the bottom and/or from the nearest stable surface. It probably looks for the most reasonable spot to put support, and if it can't find a nearby internal surface that is flat enough it will just use the bottom surface, which seems reasonable. Webbing would need another available surface to attach to, and it won't be able to web across layer boundaries (e.g. a spot on layer 15 to a spot on layer 25), so anywhere the print struggles with bridging webbing will also struggle. It doesn't seem like it would actually solve a problem except to maybe give a small amount of overall support.
@TarekMidani
@TarekMidani 2 жыл бұрын
If you branch out at 45 or 60 degree angles you can basically be able to start the infill higher off the ground without requiring bridging. Maybe we need an option to specify to the slicer at what angle we're confident the printer can handle. Or what length of bridging can it do
@3dprintgreatgrimsby352
@3dprintgreatgrimsby352 2 жыл бұрын
Just been using this on some large prints, it saves a ton of filament and time
@henryreimer8310
@henryreimer8310 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great addition to cura and a great video!
@avejst
@avejst 2 жыл бұрын
Great find I found Adaptive infill in PruseSlicer quite good It is NOT lightning support, but a support that increase support at the walls, and decrease in the center. Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😀
@chr0nos871
@chr0nos871 2 жыл бұрын
I just totally stumbled accross this and came straight to KZfaq to see if someone had done a review on Lightning infill and here you are! Brilliant! Thanks mate
@jeanmorin4580
@jeanmorin4580 2 жыл бұрын
Just installed 4.12.1, I'll give it a shot. Thank you sir!
@pcdc1337
@pcdc1337 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, really informative! I wouldn't have even bothered using it otherwise, but now the benefits are clearly highlighted. Subbed :)
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome! 👍
@mbuck78
@mbuck78 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad i seen this video , I just set up my first #D printer today and have been learning cura 4.12 . I would not have figured that out for a bit so thank you!!
@michaelwhinnery164
@michaelwhinnery164 2 жыл бұрын
Wow !!! Thank you, I will use this feature. Filament isn't getting any less expensive.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
it sure isn't, plus less plastic = better for everyone.
@DejitaruJin
@DejitaruJin 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I will absolutely use that when I have a need for it. (But right now all my prints are mechanical!)
@dibrockly
@dibrockly 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on realizing the potential of this!
@jps99
@jps99 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, I wish I 'd watched this video a week ago when I was printing Christmas ornaments! I will definitely be using lightning infill ongoing.
@JonnyFlash80
@JonnyFlash80 2 жыл бұрын
More people need to see this. I've been wasting so much plastic on infill and have only just started in 3d printing. Lightning infill makes so much sense.
@gizelle-s
@gizelle-s 2 жыл бұрын
While I think this is a great step forward, I do think that there should be a lot more development in low density infill support like this. The lightning seems a bit chaotic at times almost as if its just randomly generated up to the surface. Still very cool though
@AaronBlankenship
@AaronBlankenship 2 жыл бұрын
I literally been waiting for this feature for years and have projects waiting for it. Did not want to waste hours and hours of time for a simple internal support that this technology can produce. I've never printed anything solid or super dense, just go on to other projects.
@walktime
@walktime 2 жыл бұрын
you could have, theoretically, made an object hollow with ~1mm walls and that way used tree or other type of support for inner top layers. but that would introduce other problems with certain shapes while printing...
@DEtchells
@DEtchells 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, great info! I just discovered your channel, and instantly signed up after watching this! Good luck and keep up the excellent work!
@BF-rn3oz
@BF-rn3oz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hadn't noticed the new infil mode until you told me!
@UrosGavric
@UrosGavric 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. Read about the infill in Cura announce but didnt understand it until watched you video. Will definitely try it.
@pseudotasuki
@pseudotasuki 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up. I've occasionally wondered why there aren't options to treat infill like supports, for exactly the same situations you mention. Well, now there's something even better!
@SomeDudeOnTheNet
@SomeDudeOnTheNet 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is most likely going to be drowned out in the sea of comments but the video idea that you mentioned about going more in-depth of when to infil and when to just leave it hollow would be a really useful guide. Your 10 tips helped me from printing lumpy failed prints to lovely detailed ones and a guide of how and when to infil would help alot of people, myself included. Keep up the great videos mate, have a good one!
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
I still read all the comments 👍 Yep I've made sure to note down a future video on infill, or probably scope for a few videos actually on the topic!
@SomeDudeOnTheNet
@SomeDudeOnTheNet 2 жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D Cheers mate! In the mean time I'll check out your backlog of videos. Your style of guides and commentary is great and I hope you continue to make videos in the future.
@evanlane1690
@evanlane1690 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the update notification and ignored it. Really glad you made this video!
@OldSkoolSP
@OldSkoolSP 2 жыл бұрын
Very concise and well-done vid. Thanks for raising awareness about this feature! Gonna try it out on an organizer print I've been putting off because using infill for internal support adds about 3 hours to the job.
@jamesedwards8175
@jamesedwards8175 2 жыл бұрын
I've been printing curved bunkers with 15% infill and it wastes soooooo much material. Lightning sounds like EXACTLY what I need.
@Fenlandia
@Fenlandia 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome and I'm definitely going to use it for ornament printing. I look forward to Stefan at CNC Kitchen stress testing this new infill pattern!
@firepower9966
@firepower9966 2 жыл бұрын
didn't think much of lightning infill, but you explained lightning support really well, now i will consider using it in future. you earned a sub.
@sevdev9844
@sevdev9844 2 жыл бұрын
People I know want to use this to fill their prints with foam, to make them tougher while still staying light. This technique seems to be used for rc models of airplanes for example.
@myuzu_
@myuzu_ 2 жыл бұрын
What about printing a foam interior at the same time
@sevdev9844
@sevdev9844 2 жыл бұрын
@@myuzu_ There's filament which can print foamy or strong, dependent on the temperature, but it's rather expensive. Also, not sure if it would work well. In case of needing more foam than shell it might not make any sense. Avoiding additional steps isn't always the best way.
@CarsSimplified
@CarsSimplified 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! That's quite a good addition!
@RubixB0y
@RubixB0y 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see how this performs with ABS since that looks like a whole forest of edges to curl up and get knocked into. This is pretty much internal tree supports.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
good point
@thanhavictus
@thanhavictus 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be better if it was continuous pathing instead of a million little pieces
@MrRadicalMoves
@MrRadicalMoves 2 жыл бұрын
@@thanhavictus I wonder if something like this could be created but to use a Hamiltonian Path instead as, I agree, one smooth run would be much better than starting and stopping constantly.
@cabbagemerchant8506
@cabbagemerchant8506 2 жыл бұрын
I've been having excellent results with lightning infill on ABS, give or take a few models warping off the bed, usual ABS stuff.
@DavidCook42
@DavidCook42 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome and makes a lot of sense. Thank you for explaining it 😊
@hiasausmwoid1247
@hiasausmwoid1247 2 жыл бұрын
yep, i will be using it! thanks for showing and explaining so good!
@bungle1963
@bungle1963 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'll be downloading the new version and giving it a go ASAP. Great explanation 👌
@SilentBeutlin
@SilentBeutlin 2 жыл бұрын
What's curious about this video is that "gradual infill steps" in Cura were already a thing, and does pretty much exactly what you say Lightning Infill adds. Lightning is a much improved version - but you could always have used Gradual Infill to print, for example, the Companion Cube without using infill throughout.
@TheBeep198
@TheBeep198 2 жыл бұрын
I sometimes use "infill as support" option
@duke0102
@duke0102 2 жыл бұрын
I've tried a few small benchys and a larger print and this lightening infill is amazing. Saves so much plastic.
@aron3d906
@aron3d906 2 жыл бұрын
the new feature is great and all but, WHY THE F... YOU HAVE ONLY 4K SUBS, you my friend make really nice content and deserve much, much more
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
a week ago I only had 1k subs 👍😂
@VorpalForceField
@VorpalForceField 2 жыл бұрын
I had seen it but not thought about how it was really used ... Thank You for sharing.
@mikecook8054
@mikecook8054 2 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT! Extremely helpful. I've got it, but honestly read right through it. Thanks so much for pointing this out! Keep up the amazing work!
@TheScottimusPrime
@TheScottimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Now I'm gonna have to learn how to use Cura.
@JulianMakes
@JulianMakes 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, really well explained. Subbed! Cheers
@ashleywinsor8140
@ashleywinsor8140 2 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool. Once I figure out my printer issue I’ll definitely be using it
@ThibaultTricard
@ThibaultTricard 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video ! Nice to see this work is appreciated !
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I thought I recognized your name! Thank you for the work you did, as you can see it's very popular in the community 👍 (for those who haven't worked it out, this was one of the guys who wrote the paper!)
@KhaosFPV
@KhaosFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I had no idea this was a new feature.
@Mychannel56980
@Mychannel56980 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve been using it since the Beta. It’s great
@nallath
@nallath 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing the beta! We really appreciate you doing that :)
@ZenithWest169
@ZenithWest169 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you chose the companion cube as the example as it illustrated one potential problem... The weight or feel would be off for some prints. The companion cube would be heavier on the "top" side. If you printed a relatively large model of it, you'd be able to tell (but if you just did it for a display item and not something you'd expect to be picked up from a desk, then this would be a great choice).
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
It didn't, at the density I printed at. But yeah a higher density infill would be more obvious
@ZenithWest169
@ZenithWest169 2 жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D ah true lower density would be less noticable by feel but I was also thinking of large DnD dice like a D20 being too biased or spherical objects that would roll... But nice to know that at the density you used you really couldn't notice a difference by feel at least
@jolandanvt2379
@jolandanvt2379 2 жыл бұрын
Whoaaaaaahh, gotta test this. Thanks for the explanation
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 жыл бұрын
HAL has a bunch of great papers on 3d printing and infill generation. Good stuff man.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
I keep meaning to go back and spend some time looking at them!
@BloodyMobile
@BloodyMobile 2 жыл бұрын
I did knew about the new infill when I installed 4.12 because it pointed it out, but NOW I understand that it's actually the infill I needed most of the time in the past
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 2 жыл бұрын
In order to make my sacrificial molds for Lost PLA Casting... - Lighting Infill. - 0.1 Millimeter Nozzle. - Variable Layer Height. - Non-Planar Slicing. - Completely clear PLA (with no additives or pigments; the tiny particles might gum up the tiny nozzle). - Input Shaping + Elephant's Foot Compensation. - "Wobble Wing" device (to eliminate Z-wobble). - Texturing (to improve stiffness and surface qualities). - Gradient Infill (to minimize material usage when "traditional" infill is required). - 3D Gyroid Infill Pattern. To make structural parts, I'd ditch the 0.1 millimeter nozzle because I'd be working with materials which would invariably jam it. I would also add Load-Dependent Infill to the mix, and I'd do a crapton of tempering and annealing.
@jmtx.
@jmtx. 2 жыл бұрын
These should be called sacrificial supports. They will work internally as well as externally, and hopefully Cura will come out with localized supports that start at the nearest vertical up the model. This will work on internal as well as external features as well. So glad Cura keeps coming out with new features.
@marcgruener9005
@marcgruener9005 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of your explanation and I do believe it makes a lot of sense. However, compared to other common infill methods I can see two caveats: - lightning support assumes an orientation of the part. Unless the parts intended orientation of display is the same as when printing, the internal support becomes “useless” besides improving printing surface quality (not a problem for decorative parts). - Compared to uniform infills, this also impacts the weight distribution of the model by shifting the center of gravity more to the top. It is a great tool, but there are some trade offs.
@napolizueri
@napolizueri 2 жыл бұрын
This is sooo nice! Thanks for that tip, i would of miss that update without your Video. Thanks!
@davide.ercolano
@davide.ercolano 2 жыл бұрын
It look awesome! Definitely will worth some time to try!
@Deses
@Deses 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this for so so long.
@welshdave5263
@welshdave5263 2 жыл бұрын
I totally clocked on this just for the thumbnail. Glad I did, I've been tempted to try cura for a while, this might just have given me a nudge.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it....the learning curve is fairly steep but it's worth doing
@jacobrollins37
@jacobrollins37 2 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see this saving a lot of material for larg prints or several multiple prints.
@MrLocuzt
@MrLocuzt 2 жыл бұрын
This seems really usefull, i do alot of decorative pieces! Thanks for video!
@StudentTrader
@StudentTrader 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely going to use this!
@Kosro
@Kosro 2 жыл бұрын
"Reinstalling Windows" "Don't wanna go into that.." "Lost In Tech" checks out.
@Twin_Flyer
@Twin_Flyer 2 жыл бұрын
Looks more like it should have been called Internal Tree supports! Great video, i will have to start using .12 more then .11 then i have been (both installed).
@orbitalair2103
@orbitalair2103 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant solution to a common problem. Saves material and time.
@thomasw4422
@thomasw4422 2 жыл бұрын
Usually I just leave cura updates as in the past they've been troublesome - getting profiles to work again I found difficult. But this is very tempting.
@nidzdotnet76
@nidzdotnet76 2 жыл бұрын
It's good. They should call it Low Infill. You could print high infill or low. Make it the lowest infill option below 10%
@digitaldave7406
@digitaldave7406 2 жыл бұрын
I am not always well informed on such news but it is certainly a bigger upgrade for certain reasons.
@mjstow
@mjstow 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, and fascinating subject. I agree.... calling it "lightning" does it no justice. I wish it had been available when I printed my Maltese Falcon (from the film).
@angelorf
@angelorf 2 жыл бұрын
What would you have thought were a better name for it?
@curtmcd
@curtmcd 2 жыл бұрын
I currently use tree supports for everything and am thrilled they can now be used internally.
@altrombone1775
@altrombone1775 2 жыл бұрын
Support infill has already existed for quite some time, but now the infill can build up from the sides of the print.
@HE-162
@HE-162 2 жыл бұрын
SuperSlicer has ‘infill only where needed’ for ages, as well as dense infill layers beneath top surfaces so they can be supported without having dense(or any) infill throughout the model.
@83hjf
@83hjf 2 жыл бұрын
cura also has the "infill support" which doesn't print infill where it's not supporting anything, but this is a new algorithm i guess.
@titter3648
@titter3648 2 жыл бұрын
Defiantly good for lost PLA casting.
@chemistclips
@chemistclips 2 жыл бұрын
I have been using simple rectangular infill mesh modifiers with no top/bottom and only 1 wall to support local minima for a few layers just before its first skin layer goes down. You can easily generate them by converting the mesh type of a support blocker cube then resizing, however this lightning infill seems like a one-and-done with less fiddling, so if it works, awesome!
@nallath
@nallath 2 жыл бұрын
It also uses different logic than regular support. In the case of infill, you don't really care about x/y or z offsets.
@JonS
@JonS 2 жыл бұрын
How else would someone pronounce "gyroid" (saying that as someone from the UK living in America)? Didn't Stefan at CNC Kitchen show that the best way to add strength to a part is with more sidewalls, not infill anyway? I've been thinking about infill as internal support for a while, so I'm glad Cura has added this. Now if only Simplify3D, my preferred slicer would add it. Hahaha! (S3D hasn't been updated for years, for those of you not familiar with it).
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
Gif. If you get what I mean 😂
@bazookasniper5167
@bazookasniper5167 2 жыл бұрын
Im no language expert but in my opinion the g in 'gy' (without a g before it) should sound like 'juh' rather than 'guh'. For example: edgy gym orgy. However, there is at least 1 exception: gynaecology. Imo it sounds more accurate to what it is if the first g sounded like j
@clonkex
@clonkex 2 жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D Yeah but we all know people that say jif are wrong anyway. Although that would support a hard G sound on gyro... but that's obviously wrong as well...
@wesleytarr6302
@wesleytarr6302 2 жыл бұрын
Hot dang! Thank you for showing us this!
@spydergs07
@spydergs07 2 жыл бұрын
Trying it now on a difficult print I've printed 3 times now. My more hollowing print was too weak and took 11 hours. My more dense hexagon fill took 17.5 hours The lighting fill is showing 5 hours at full 6" scale. I'm excited to try this fill method. Thanks for the video!
@IncertusetNescio
@IncertusetNescio 2 жыл бұрын
There are a TON of models I wanted to print but couldn't because I wasn't able to justify the infill requirements to prevent surface sagging. Most of those items were cosmetic (anything serious has ~50% infill, gyroid ideally). Now with this lightning infill, that changes most of them. Might be able to justify breaking out the printer for the first time in AGES.
@nate6862
@nate6862 2 жыл бұрын
Step aside Gyroid, this is my new go-to infill for sand filled prints!
@PJPEE
@PJPEE 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, congrats on those views man, you deserve it
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
thank you! shocked is an understatement 😂
@coaltowking
@coaltowking 2 жыл бұрын
This seems especially useful for printing large parts with large nozzles where even 1 or 2 perimeters is plenty strong.
@Kyle-wb7wx
@Kyle-wb7wx 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the cube fail made me smash that like button.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner 2 жыл бұрын
With this video, you're really spoiling us.
@MichaelCampbell01
@MichaelCampbell01 2 жыл бұрын
Really neat; I don't know why I didn't think of "internal trees, why not?" before now.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
I know, it's definitely one of those "why did this take so long" moments.
@apollyon7573
@apollyon7573 2 жыл бұрын
I agree there hasn't really been enough improvements in support (internal or external) in the last few years. I blame s3d for being a paid program that a lot of influencers got that worked better than anything out (at that time) but then NEVER got updated. Now that the free software has the same features and more I haven't looked back at the software I paid as much as a cheap printer for...
@papu90
@papu90 2 жыл бұрын
great video! thanks! Will certainly try this out.
@secretagb
@secretagb 2 жыл бұрын
Ok when I first heard about the new 'infill' I was not at all impressed nor did I realize what it was truly for. Wow..that's useful.
@chartle1
@chartle1 2 жыл бұрын
that Bulbasaur was also my first test of no infill. :)
@dnmnsmith
@dnmnsmith 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial, earned a sub.
@hayden9944
@hayden9944 2 жыл бұрын
Great content and do agree! Can you print with lightening. Leave a hole to inject expanding foam. I bet u will be finished with an very strong part simple to make
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 2 жыл бұрын
You could. I'd be interested to see how well that would work especially on really large pieces
@lunara69
@lunara69 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for advice!
@dvsmotions
@dvsmotions 2 жыл бұрын
I almost never print hollow parts but this features seems like a huge game changer for those that do.
@jmcghghmvh
@jmcghghmvh 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing I was just thinking about this a week ago. About why is there no version of tree support for infill. I'm so excited I just updated cura.
@ChrisHalden007
@ChrisHalden007 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update.
@aliensaxophone
@aliensaxophone 2 жыл бұрын
Really reminds me of the tree support function, which also works really well
@SwissplWatches
@SwissplWatches Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!
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