Irresistible Grace: What is Reformed Theology? with R.C. Sproul

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Ligonier Ministries

Ligonier Ministries

9 жыл бұрын

How is it that you who hated God so much now love him so much? What did you do to change your heart so radically? Do you remember resisting grace? Do you remember when you received it? Was it before or after you had faith in Jesus Christ for your salvation? In this message, Dr. Sproul considers these questions as he examines the doctrine of “Irresistible Grace.”
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@davidw5441
@davidw5441 5 жыл бұрын
The best teacher on the doctrines of grace I have ever heard. I love RC Sproul
@davidwitkopii291
@davidwitkopii291 5 жыл бұрын
True Dave wittkop! Haha
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@CBALLEN
@CBALLEN Жыл бұрын
The god that I used to believe in was nothing like the True God.The god I used to worship was a god that I controlled, a god that did things the way that I would do things, but alas,this god did not exist.
@leefury7
@leefury7 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest Chafer's work, "Grace."
@alecc9340
@alecc9340 9 ай бұрын
What a blessing it is to have access to these.
@googletimes89
@googletimes89 6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how much I miss RC, he's like a family member.
@marlak1104
@marlak1104 4 жыл бұрын
I know, same here.
@built4speed101
@built4speed101 4 жыл бұрын
Amen G.T.!
@jamesstewart3742
@jamesstewart3742 2 жыл бұрын
Hes a brother in christ
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@ruthdella37
@ruthdella37 13 күн бұрын
Agreed! He is one of my favorite fathers in the faith by God’s beautiful AMAZING GRACE!!
@maryteplova437
@maryteplova437 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are the true blessing. R.C. Sproul is one of my favourite pastors-teachers. But we definitely are Christians firstly and then Calvinists. Knowledge is so important, but debating with the Arminian bretheren with love is more important. Greetings from Ukraine (Evangelical Reformed Presbyterian church of Odesa).
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@louierivera7512
@louierivera7512 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@johnhunter9388
@johnhunter9388 3 жыл бұрын
when I came to Jesus, by the Father drawing me...I was atheist but through the years..life issues, trials and troubles..had brought me to my knees. I became more of an agnostic and eventually I was willing to take up an offer to go to church. you'd think I wouldve hardened my heart more and become more of an atheist...I eventually agreed to go to church..but had no real belief id have a heart change and given a desire to serve Jesus as Lord by the Holy Spirit. 2005 I became a born again Christian a year after leaving the military and I praise God for the working of His amazing grace in my life.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@angelacarleton9575
@angelacarleton9575 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found him in KZfaq videos - he is incredible evangelist I am learning so much from him even if he passed away he is still helping everyone to know "God's Word,"
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@wildbill6203
@wildbill6203 3 жыл бұрын
This message is wonderful it describes my miraculous conversion when I was Born Again, thank you Jesus so much!!!
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@MathewSimonGospel
@MathewSimonGospel 3 жыл бұрын
Ephesians 2 is beautiful. We were dead in sin. What can dead people do? Nothing. So then Jesus Christ died and rose from the dead, raising us with Him. Then He ascended to heaven and sat down next to God the Father, seating us with Him. Then He works in us to do the works God ordained before the world was created. Christ alone ! Not I but the GRACE of God in me.
@carlelderberg9855
@carlelderberg9855 4 жыл бұрын
RC always spoke with such conviction and compassion. Truly a gift from God.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@duranbailiff5337
@duranbailiff5337 3 жыл бұрын
It is shameful and amazing how thoroughly man has distorted and maligned the beautiful truths of God's Holy word! I thank God for answering my prayer to correct my false doctrines and misunderstood theological beliefs. I bless the Lord for raising up faithful men that commit themselves to diligent study and guide the flock towards Reformed and Biblical truth. Thank you Brother Sproul and rest your soul in the presence of the LORD.
@amylamb2768
@amylamb2768 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@waynehobbs5175
@waynehobbs5175 Жыл бұрын
Amen Brother, ditto for me too.
@stevenknapp2850
@stevenknapp2850 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
Incomprehensible how.many anti biblical cults try to claim to be Christian America is a joke and it's amazing the Lord tsrried with us as long as he has
@waynehobbs5175
@waynehobbs5175 Жыл бұрын
We are so blessed by God that He allowed R.C.Sproul to continue to teach posthumously via these recordings. God's word is timeless and just as Paul was able to scribe the word 2000 years ago, understanding it better via these videos is a blessing. R.C. and his like-awakened and educated theologians/pastors are a gift and mode of the Holy Spirit to touch the fractured hearts of the chosen.
@BraydenWolframe
@BraydenWolframe 3 жыл бұрын
Amen Sproul. That Lord must draw us to Himself. May we praise Him forevermore for drawing sinners like you and me to Himself. God bless you all.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@bloodmooncomix457
@bloodmooncomix457 4 жыл бұрын
G is right. I didn't realize how great of gift RC was until he was gone! My understanding of my Lord's words is partly because of him. His intro to each of his broadcast and his chalkboard writing as he preached will always one of my "sounds of comfort"! R.I.P. "mighty man of God"!
@MrNickhass
@MrNickhass 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, God Bless you brother
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@hoseaclothing6186
@hoseaclothing6186 3 жыл бұрын
"What the Holy Spirit does do is change the inclination and the disposition of our hearts, so that when we were previously unwilling to embrace Christ - now we are willing!.... We aren't dragged to Christ! We run to Christ!"
@J.F.331
@J.F.331 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great way of seeing it. I also think of it this way, when we are unregenerate, we have only tasted the bitter water that sin can provide. We know nothing of the sweet and refreshing water that God provides until He has first given us a drink of it. The living water God provides is something He gives, not something we take. Once we’ve tasted, resistance is not even a thought to ponder.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@nanmurray2988
@nanmurray2988 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful I found the teachings of R. C. Sproul. He explains doctrine/scripture and interprets it logically, lovingly, passionately. So much is becoming clear to me. Praise our triune God!
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
@@bobreese4807 you are really desperate for followers haha you can't fool those who eyes have been opened What a wackjob
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
@@iacoponefurio1915 If you ever follow JESUS instead of being a preacher parrot, you will begin transitioning from a bipolar barbarian to something more meek.
@FBDerringer
@FBDerringer 3 жыл бұрын
The opposite of resistance is acceptance. Accept Jesus Christ. Believe unto righteousness. God is not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.
@christiandelorde5887
@christiandelorde5887 Жыл бұрын
I was guided by the Lord to this man's teaching. Thank you Lord for Mr R.C. Sproul.
@louierivera7512
@louierivera7512 9 ай бұрын
Wow, I wish I would of sat under his teaching…R.C was an amazing gift from GOD!
@jameszimmerman2965
@jameszimmerman2965 4 жыл бұрын
Faith is not an attribute of man, but a gift from GOD. Because it is a fruit of the HOLY SPIRIT, therefore apart from Him, man cannot believe. It's not in His nature. "No one seeks for GOD. No, not even one." And, "no one can come to me except the FATHER draws Him." What a blessing today!
@ronald968
@ronald968 9 ай бұрын
bur what we do with that free will is uo to us, not God or Satan
@victorchigbue8265
@victorchigbue8265 4 жыл бұрын
What a divine exposition!Thank you dear Lord for this Servant of yours , He amazingly reignited in me an overwhelming appreciation and love for the gift of salvation! #ThankyouJesusforchoosingme!
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@ramsoncole4605
@ramsoncole4605 5 жыл бұрын
But when God steps in personally, like he did with me...there is no possible way to refuse his amazing grace. How could you?
@thomasj5332
@thomasj5332 5 жыл бұрын
Acts 7:51 “Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, *ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.”*
@choicemeatrandy6572
@choicemeatrandy6572 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasj5332 That verse actually refutes the view you're proposing. The pharisees resisted the Holy Spirit because their hearts were uncircumcised. Someone with a circumcised heart *will not* resist the Holy Spirit (Read Romans 2:28-29)
@ramsoncole4605
@ramsoncole4605 4 жыл бұрын
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC Once God makes himself known to you, and you now know for a fact that God is real, you can't resist...it's not like you are being compelled, but my god...you now know God is real without a shadow of a doubt. I have no clue why God would save me.
@thomasj5332
@thomasj5332 4 жыл бұрын
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC ?? Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, *I will pour out my spirit unto you,* I will make known my words unto you. *Because I have called, and ye refused;* I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; 25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: 26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; 27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. 28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
@2timothy23
@2timothy23 4 жыл бұрын
Amen, Ramson. I've been a believer for twenty years, and for the first ten I didn't even know about the doctrines of grace until I began questioning Ephesians 1:4 and Romans 9. These Bible verses bothered me because I felt as if I had no "control" over my own salvation. It led to a nearly two year study of these doctrines. But even before this happened, when I would give my testimony about my salvation, I would say, "And when the pastor showed me the gospel from the Bible, there was something inside me that couldn't say no." I was saying this before I ever heard of reformed theology. I had the gospel presented to me so many times before I was saved and never felt that way until the day the Lord saved me. Now I know it was that effectual call where my heart was changed and I now obeyed the gospel that I couldn't and wouldn't obey before. Sinful man will always resist the general call of gracious salvation because the nature of man hates God (John 15:18-23). Yet when that Spirit moves to make you alive at a moment that is still mysterious to us in many ways (John 3:8), we will hear that call and respond, not unlike the dead Lazarus made alive first before he could heed the call of Jesus. Lazarus couldn't do anything because he was dead; he had to be made alive first and then he responded. It happened all at once. That is what happens to sinners when God has made us alive from our spiritual deadness; we hear Him call because He is our shepherd and we are His sheep (John 10:27-30). All glory to God for His salvation from start to finish.
@judithdabrow9843
@judithdabrow9843 Жыл бұрын
I hope to meet this dear servant one day soon, I hope ❤
@bkpascalkim
@bkpascalkim 8 жыл бұрын
I agree "Effectual Grace" is a better terminology.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@tunefully1792
@tunefully1792 6 жыл бұрын
I'm proof effectual grace is real. I weent to rehab strung out on dope, God gave me a spiritual experience and awakening wind blowing burning bush type. No-one believed me neither do my own family except one or two people, no-one showed me Jesus but I knew immediately it was him, had a reborn again dream which I knew nothing of until I looked it up and immediately started praying repenting not knowing anything and started watching the signs of his return while reading the bible and being on fire for Jesus
@Andrew-sj9tr
@Andrew-sj9tr 5 жыл бұрын
Tunefully can you explain your dream
@marlak1104
@marlak1104 4 жыл бұрын
Good 4 u. Praise God.
@nikokapanen82
@nikokapanen82 2 жыл бұрын
That is the thing. To believe what Sproul is saying here you need to experience it. Many does not have such an experience so they dont believe it.
@Eivert
@Eivert 9 жыл бұрын
Excelente serie de mensajes. Dios bendiga cada día más al Dr. Sproul y al ministerio Ligonier.
@joshuatheo1419
@joshuatheo1419 3 жыл бұрын
Síí!
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@evitachu6573
@evitachu6573 6 ай бұрын
Dr Sproul is a beyond amazing teacher. Every time I have some doctrinal crisis … I search his sermon list and found the answer.
@EvangelistDonClark
@EvangelistDonClark Жыл бұрын
As Rev. Jones once said: God chooses those who “Will”, not those who “Won’t”. This man makes Salvation impossibly complicated and in error. A child may understand: “Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life”. We are created in the image of God, therefore having “Free Will”, to receive or reject Christ.
@NevetsWC1134
@NevetsWC1134 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, by this standard God predestines you to heaven or hell. And no one will know till they are dead. That means mr. Sprouls him self might not be in heaven. God in nature is Good and sending people to hell for no reason other that willing it, is not by nature good. If that were the case then why even send himself to die for us? It didn't need to happen.
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
@@NevetsWC1134 hahaha I mean a kindergartener can figure that out when taught properly and they do every day
@Lena.9
@Lena.9 Жыл бұрын
What’s described by RC Sproul is exactly the way God worked in my life. And what you wrote is not true at all. I made it abundantly clear to God that I wanted nothing to do with Him. But in the middle of my resistance God came with His Word in such way my desires were immediately changed. Now I was willing. But God chooses to gave me regenerative grace when I was absolutely not willing at all. Free will nonsense.
@vitaignis5594
@vitaignis5594 5 ай бұрын
​@@Lena.9such a claim that free will is nonsense is not consistent with the historical view of the Church and is actually consistent with the heretics of old.
@eklektos_en_Christo_
@eklektos_en_Christo_ 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how to respond to reformed theology but my conversion was totally aligned with what RC Sproul is teaching.
@J.F.331
@J.F.331 2 жыл бұрын
If I can help, in a nutshell Romans 8:28-30 is a great summary of what God does. Notice in this passage, there is not one time where the creature is seen cooperating with God. Many like to quote John 1:12 but always ignore John 1:13 which clearly tells us that God is the one doing everything.
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
Because it is spiritually revealed and discerned. Keep looking up Reformed resources most of all spend time with Him. I hope to do the same.
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
God is the only source of anything good. We are the wayward source of our own troubles, our ancestors first and then we proved to be just like them. We have violated His covenant and are adulterers and idolaters An eye for eye would.leave all men rejected as we rejected Him.
@JesusGarcia-Digem
@JesusGarcia-Digem 5 жыл бұрын
AMEN!!! Heavy duty stuff.
@marjattaelliott1158
@marjattaelliott1158 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this teaching it has blessed me.
@menen3804
@menen3804 2 жыл бұрын
Praise GOD for His salvific work! He alone is the author, sustainer, and perfecter of faith.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
@@bobreese4807 why don't you read a bible re0ent and believe No one is in your crazy strawman fake assumption backwards fake hypocritr
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
He alone is the source of anything good.
@friendyadvice2238
@friendyadvice2238 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful pastor.
@melcarpiso5604
@melcarpiso5604 4 жыл бұрын
very well said
@Isaiah61.10
@Isaiah61.10 Жыл бұрын
His saying the truth about how a person is saved by grace like Aposlte paul and John newton the composer of Amazing Grace its a savage chain of grace that we can't resist it but cry and fall into our loving Fathers arms😇🙏❤💖❣💝
@paulioosthuizen9233
@paulioosthuizen9233 11 ай бұрын
Bravo!
@tvtommm
@tvtommm 6 ай бұрын
Amen Brother
@A.Dajlida
@A.Dajlida 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@graceinaction6045
@graceinaction6045 7 жыл бұрын
great teacher
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 11 ай бұрын
He’s false teaching.
@JohnMoog-dn9dt
@JohnMoog-dn9dt Жыл бұрын
Yes I believe regeneration preceded faith in my case - I came to God only as a last resort, after 1st trying the gods of our time & finding them unprofitable - did God’s grace perhaps consist in part in that realization?
@dand4485
@dand4485 3 жыл бұрын
Can't see anyone not liking this "GOOD NEWS" isn't this exactly what it is? Hard to think of this as anything other then the Gospel (GOOD NEWS) of Christ's salvation. Starting around 18:00 isn't this exactly what we read in 1 Cor 1:30 But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, All God!
@robertcoupe6514
@robertcoupe6514 2 жыл бұрын
What God, the Father of Jesus Christ, does before faith comes is to give him ears that hear. Faith is the substance (mass) that the (gravity) of grace compels to come. Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ, “None of My sheep have free will.” I am forever praising and believing Jesus Christ and this is pleasing to God.
@Dr.Nagyonfaj
@Dr.Nagyonfaj 4 жыл бұрын
One of the great bible scholars!
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 11 ай бұрын
He’s false teaching.
@Dr.Nagyonfaj
@Dr.Nagyonfaj 11 ай бұрын
@@christsavesreadromans1096 Please - feel free to start your own channel and teach the world. I'm sure you have amazing credentials.
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 11 ай бұрын
@@Dr.Nagyonfaj As if your credentials matter concerning what is and isn’t true. The simple fact is that this doctrine he’s proposing, reformed theology, was not believed by the early church fathers or by Christians for 1500 years. A bit absurd to suggest that all Christians had it wrong for so long.
@ronald968
@ronald968 9 ай бұрын
The guy's a heretic
@BibleLovingLutheran
@BibleLovingLutheran 5 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏🏻
@SavedBySweetGrace
@SavedBySweetGrace 3 жыл бұрын
Also Matthew the Tax Collector is an amazing example in the Bible to prove Irresistible Grace to be biblical!
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
Saul of Tarsus
@besimahaddad5257
@besimahaddad5257 7 жыл бұрын
super Wonderfull explain. and Thats the truth!!!!!
@danielnm156
@danielnm156 2 жыл бұрын
Even the faith I have in God I don’t fully understand, it’s like if is something that is handed over. It is as if Christ lets me borrow his lungs in order to breath. Yes I believe and am aware of it when it happens, but even when I doubt it is still there. One’s human moods fluctuate and for my salvation to depend on this, is too much to bare. I know that Christ assists me all the way through.
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
We must be Born Again.
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
My faith goes against the entire rest of my being.
@angloaust1575
@angloaust1575 2 жыл бұрын
God the holy spirit The infallible guide and teacher Put trust in him He will never lead you astray!
@guillermodominguez8643
@guillermodominguez8643 2 жыл бұрын
amen
@jaidynweight5394
@jaidynweight5394 5 жыл бұрын
I remember reading Dr Sproul's "Chosen by God" in which he lists the acrostic "RULEP" - I think he must have developed it somewhat over his life. #semperreformanda
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE !!!!!! So since God is not willing that any should perish... why doesn't GOD just ZAP every Earthling with this IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and save everyone???? (including satan and his buddies) AND since we are saved by GRACE, then ZAP us with this powerful GRACE every second so we stop sinning TOTALLY???? Calvinism is HERESY, IDOLATRY and mocks GOD!!!
@lansan3430
@lansan3430 6 жыл бұрын
Regeneration comes after faith because of the receiving of Holy Spirit! Only during our regeneration and washing of the Spirit can we please and glorify God! I don't think God will make us or force us to repent, but only His kindness "might" lead us to repentance! noticed the word "might"? Yes, because few people repents of their sin. We always neglect God's kindness till few have repented. If God loves the cheerful giver(and we are not always a cheerful giver), will He make us a cheerful giver so that He will love us? Salvation(by grace thru faith) is not irresistible. How Jesus wants to gather israel under His wings, but they won't!
@Mikael5732
@Mikael5732 3 жыл бұрын
It is God who grants us the ability to repent.
@Lena.9
@Lena.9 Жыл бұрын
You might want to read about John the Baptist. Or Cornelius, who pleased God before the Gospel had even come to him.
@ksmung6268
@ksmung6268 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful theologian. See He didn't use any note.
@mickeyyoungjochoi1667
@mickeyyoungjochoi1667 3 жыл бұрын
When were the original lectures given?
@kevingodinho3813
@kevingodinho3813 2 жыл бұрын
How does regeneration precede faith? Regeneration is when you are born of the Spirit; when the Spirit dwells in you. The Spirit didn't come until Acts. What about all the faith in the OT that preceded regeration? Or the faith of Cornelius before the Spirit fell on Gentiles? (I'm genuinely asking this because it is a point I'm hung on.)
@Terror1Void
@Terror1Void 2 жыл бұрын
It starts at total depravity, or total inability. Romans 1 to 3, Ephesians 2 and Colossians 1. Man cannot have saving faith with his heart of stone because being in the flesh means you can't please god, unable to submit to his law (Romans 8). John 8 has Jews in it that believe on Christ, yet Christ calls them sons of the devil.
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
You obviously have no idea what regeration is
@lunthuak2114
@lunthuak2114 2 ай бұрын
if it is by faith, then whose faith? if it is by work, whose work? and we know it's by Grace, God's Grace through Christ.
@johnstewart4350
@johnstewart4350 Жыл бұрын
THEREFORE WITH JOY SHALL YE DRAW WATER OUT OF THE WELLS OF SALVATION. ~ Isaiah 12:3
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
Speaking to ISRAEL Einstein hahahaha
@mattjones8892
@mattjones8892 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful scripture
@TheBruteSquad
@TheBruteSquad 8 ай бұрын
So then would this reformed theology on irresistible grace exclude the active and willing receiving of God’s grace from by the soul as itself being a work of sorts, so that in a limited sense the saved soul is willed by God to be involved is it’s own salvation?
@borisvandruff7532
@borisvandruff7532 3 жыл бұрын
The logic behind regeneration preceding faith can be explained using a metaphor. 1. An apple must exist before it can be perceived. 2. We must perceive the apple before we can believe it exists. 3. Therefore, the apple must have existed before our belief in it. Replace the apple with God. And voilà.
@leepicker67
@leepicker67 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the term should be Infallible Grace. To those who are the "elect" (chosen) by God for salvation, THEN these will be Infallibly saved by God. God DOESN'T make mistakes. Good job on this on Dr. Sproul.
@apilkey
@apilkey 4 жыл бұрын
leepicker67 If God in His Sovereignty chose to save only those who would freely believe in Christ would you have a problem with that or would you accept it?
@apilkey
@apilkey 3 жыл бұрын
t w I asked a very simple question to leepicker67, are you able to answer it?
@leepicker67
@leepicker67 3 жыл бұрын
@@apilkey I KNOW that God will save ANY and ALL persons who would freely believe ON (trust) Christ as their Savior. However, His election is NOT contingent on that person's choice. "Election" is God's choice made in eternity past BEFORE there was ANYONE. His choice is sovereign, dependent ONLY on the good pleasure of his will. It is an error do believe that God "elected" anyone to salvation through Christ because He "foresaw" that they would "choose" to trust Christ as their Savior. If YOU personally trust in the redemptive power of Jesus Christ for your salvation, THEN you WILL BE saved and know FOR certain that you are one of the elect. If you DO NOT make that choice, THEN you are NOT someone who God "elected", and you will be LOST. The miracle of "grace" IS that God "elected" ANYONE to salvation, for "all have sinned and fallen short." God therefore was NEVER under any obligation to save ANY sinner. He chose to "save" some and not others.
@apilkey
@apilkey 3 жыл бұрын
leepicker67 Election in scripture has nothing to do with salvation. Election in the scriptures is: 1) Jesus Christ the Elect One 2) The Elect nation of Israel 3) Believers IN Christ for Christian SERVICE 4) Individuals chosen or elected to SERVICE not salvation. ... According to Isaiah 42:1 Jesus Christ is God’s elect servant who shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles: ISAIAH 42:1 1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; MINE ELECT, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. ************************************ ... According to Isaiah 45:4 the nation of Israel is God’s elect: ISAIAH 45:4 4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and ISRAEL MINE ELECT, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. ************************************ ...According to Titus 1:1 BELIEVERS in Christ are called Elect and again they are elect to SERVICE. TITUS 1:1 1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the FAITH OF GOD’S ELECT, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; You can’t have faith from before the foundation of the world.
@irishslave51
@irishslave51 Жыл бұрын
Well yeah, the FATHER must draw us unto HIMSELF...
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
There was no beauty that we should be attracted to Him
@Joshua-kt1bs
@Joshua-kt1bs Жыл бұрын
As I see it, the mistake in the line of reasoning that leads to the Reformed doctrine of election is the assumption that God’s grace must be irresistible. It’s one thing to say that humans won’t believe in Christ without the Holy Spirit and quite another thing to claim that with the Holy Spirit humans must believe. The Holy Spirit will bring us to the point where we can believe, but never to a point where we must believe. So, if we do believe, it is all credited to God’s grace, working through the Spirit. If we refuse, however, it’s our own fault. Does this view in any way compromise the claim that salvation is 100% by grace? Does it leave room for anyone to take any credit for their salvation? I don’t see how it does. The Bible gives us warnings to not resist the Holy Spirit (e.g. Acts 7:51; Eph 4:30; Heb 3:7-8)
@papabear887
@papabear887 Жыл бұрын
King Saul, anointed of God, received the Holy Spirit TWICE (1 Samuel 10:6-13, 16:14, 19:21-24, 24:10, 26:23). And yet chose to do evil. Adam and Eve when they were sinless, chose to know evil through their God given freewill. Sproul believes God has freewill and when God decided to create man in His likeness and image, suddenly, an atheist has freewill to disbelieve God but has no freewill to believe God. A muslim has freewill to ask forgiveness from anyone but has no freewill to believe in God upon hearing the Word. He has freewill to believe in Islam or allah but has no freewill to believe in God. Calvinism has to remove freewill in their “irresistible grace” doctrine to fit their philosophical cunundrum they have created. You will never find a passage that says “irresistible grace” in the entirety of the Scripture. This Calvinism is based from John Calvin’s created doctrine that God Himself “reprobated” many to damnation along with predestining others to being chosen. Calvin chose to damn God by saying that He Himself created and authored evil in Calvin’s difficulty understanding with election, and presestination passages in Romans , Ephesians and elsewhere. Calvinism is the exact description of Colossians 2 about being a deceptive empty philosophy, man made religion, according to tradition of men and basic world principles that have an appearance of wisdom and humility “yet none are of any value for stopping indulgence of the flesh.” John Calvin, the Calvinist’s super hero, when he was ruler of Geneva, has Michael Servetus, a Spanish physician and theologian, seized and burned alive in Oct 27, 1533. He in fact wanted him beheaded. And dor what...for disagreeing Calvin. So Calvinists are so deluded think that they honor God by calling Him evil.
@vitaignis5594
@vitaignis5594 5 ай бұрын
Simple question: what did the early Church teach on this issue?
@vitaignis5594
@vitaignis5594 3 ай бұрын
@@HaroldZwingley also in the early Church Fathers, you DO see the Trinity taught. You don't see concepts contrary to the Trinity being taught, unlike the early Church teaching concepts contrary to Calvinism.
@user-nm5vg6vi4v
@user-nm5vg6vi4v 8 ай бұрын
Is this the reason why other people they are Christian but they don't have faith because God has not draw them therefore there are bound to go to he'll.. meaning that God predestined others to go to he'll and other to heaven on purpose..I need help on this..its been bothering
@aumtheaum3827
@aumtheaum3827 10 ай бұрын
I remember when God the Father drew me to Jesus. It was irresistible. Nothing to do with me deserving of it.
@thesourcerer6504
@thesourcerer6504 Жыл бұрын
Ezekiel 36 verses 26 - 27
@apilkey
@apilkey 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain to me how you can claim to see life before you believe when scripture is clear that he that believeth NOT shall not see life and is still under God’s wrath? So are you saying you are born again but still under God’s wrath? JOHN 3:36 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son SHALL NOT SEE LIFE; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
@exiazee2828
@exiazee2828 Жыл бұрын
God use suffering and despair to make us cry to God to save us and then to keep us saved always and perfected... Paul washer thought suicide before his new life.pslm18 in Distress I called.. my cry.. then the Earth shook quickened
@apilkey
@apilkey 4 жыл бұрын
**If a man has the ability to do good and still chooses to do wrong he is far more depraved than a man who CAN’T do good.** Mankind is without excuse precisely because we all have been offered this free gift of salvation and we all have the freedom to either accept it or reject it. The greatest excuse that anyone could ever have when standing before God on Judgement Day would be be that, “well Lord you didn’t choose me...” Reformed theology gives mankind the greatest excuse and so must be rejected. Dead is NEVER SHOWN in the scriptures to mean MORAL INABILITY to respond to God’s truth. Dead means SPIRITUALLY SEPARATED from the presence of God due to sin and the only way to get into His presence is through Christ. **If we were actually dead as reformers portray then we wouldn’t even be able to sin!** When speaking metaphorically of deadness it’s never described as a morally incapacitated condition from birth due to the Fall, but instead as a condition of being separated from God by our own rebellion. Scripture supports a totally depraved man that is spiritually separated from God and obviously unable to save Himself. This does NOT mean man is totally incapable of responding to Him. Dead does not relate to your “ability” but to your RELATIONSHIP.
@danielomitted1867
@danielomitted1867 3 жыл бұрын
Cant help but notice none of this came from scripture. Jesus said no one can come, was he lying?
@apilkey
@apilkey 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Omitted all of that comes from scripture. No Jesus wasn’t lying. The problem is you have no clue what the context is. Either that or you don’t care about it. Reformed theology is based on assumptions and opinions and isolating passages out context. Cherry picking verses and twisting them to say things they don’t say. And at the same time disregarding the rest of scripture and turning a blind eye to it.
@apilkey
@apilkey 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Omitted Jesus said if He be lifted up He would draw all men unto Himself . Was Jesus lying? Is Jesus failing at what He would say He would do? JOHN 12:32 32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL people to myself.
@danielomitted1867
@danielomitted1867 3 жыл бұрын
@@apilkey so let me get this straight. Jesus begins a thought in John 6 and waits to finish it in John 12? Hmm am I really the one who struggles with context? So let me get this straight. Jesus said "no one can come to me unless the father draws him" but he didnt stop there "and I will raise him up on the last day" theres no distinction made between the one that is drawn and the one that is raised. Do you believe everyone is going to be raised up on the last day? If you do then congratulations youre a univsalist. Now lets examine John 12 and see what going there. In verse 19 we see the pharisees are upset with Jesus as usual. Why are they upset this time? Because "the whole world had gone after him". Now why is this an issue? Because to the pharisees the messiah was only for the jews, not the gentiles. It explains further that there were some greeks who wanted to follow Jesus who Jesus then began ministering too. In the middle of that he says he will draw all men too him. Now contextually it would appear Jesus is correcting the misconception that he was ONLY the jewish messiah. Nah this cant be the case. Clearly im wrong. Clearly Jesus begins his thought telling the jews no one can come but then doesnt even bother finishing that thought until that crowd had left him and too a completely different crowd. Cause I know thats how I like to communicate to people. I tell one group one half of my thought on a certain subject then wait til they leave and finish with an entirely new group of people. Clearly this how we are supposed to do exegesis.
@danielomitted1867
@danielomitted1867 3 жыл бұрын
@@apilkey "cherry picking verses" 😂 said the guy whos attempt at correcting me wasnt going through John 6 to examine whats going on there. Because if you did you would know Jesus is telling this to a group of people who do not believe in him. So his response to disbelief is to tell these people "you can't come". But don't stop there, read what he said to his disciples. Do you want to leave to? And they answer him. We believe you are the Holy One of God. Jesus response to this BELIEF is to say "Did I not choose you 12"? So lets examine the contrast here. Jesus answer disbelievers with "you cant come". He answers his believers with "I chose you". Wow it seems like youre the one here cherry picking and ignoring context.
@metalcomposition
@metalcomposition 3 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is how Sproul separates salvation as work completely of God and yet that sanctification is our work or partly thereof. The moment you accept Christ as Saviour, your sins, past, present and future, are atoned for and you recieve the righteous nature of Christ.
@Terror1Void
@Terror1Void 2 жыл бұрын
The holy spirit is the one who sanctifies the believer. There are no works of man in that process.
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Blessed is the man who God will never count His sins against Him. God always knew the destination of every human he decided to make before time.l began. You peabrain realization does not create yourself in God's eyes hahahahhahaha
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
The brainless narcissist assumptions you first world bots go by are so astoundingly blind.
@turkeybobjr
@turkeybobjr Жыл бұрын
Look into Molinism. Calvinism is incredibly logically flawed.
@alanlietzke5738
@alanlietzke5738 4 ай бұрын
If one must exercise faith ,by believing something, we have something to boast about, thereby contradicting Eph 2:8-9. If R. C. had read his Greek texts more carefully, he would have found that "Pistis" (usual rendered "Faith") could have also been rendered "a Faithfilness" (of Jesus), which makes all the apparent contradictions evaporate.
@SavedBySweetGrace
@SavedBySweetGrace 3 жыл бұрын
Apostle Paul is the best example of how one cannot resist Irresistible Grace. No one hated Christians and Christianity more than him. If God saved him by His grace, and Paul immediately repented and believed, then I don’t know how people don’t believe in Irresistible Grace and call it unbiblical! I can bring many examples from the Bible to prove Irresistible Grace to be BIBLICAL!!!
@eklektos_en_Christo_
@eklektos_en_Christo_ 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I look on myself and now see that i was not able to repent and believe in LORD Jesus but it was the change of my heart by Holy Spirit. In a moment of seconds i became alive to the things of God.
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
@@eklektos_en_Christo_ I am sure you spend all day every day looking in yourself narcissist
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 11 ай бұрын
He’s false teaching.
@Burger_King
@Burger_King 7 жыл бұрын
10:50
@leahrachael2396
@leahrachael2396 3 жыл бұрын
Gives a new dimension to the women at the well, does it not?
@joem13yearsago73
@joem13yearsago73 Жыл бұрын
Yea
@ajdolphin7
@ajdolphin7 5 жыл бұрын
Great teaching. But no one comes to the father unless the holy spirit gives them conviction of sin. Showing us we have a need for Christ. No one no matter what you believe accepts Jesus unless God moves work's in your heart.
@apilkey
@apilkey 4 жыл бұрын
Harry William I couldn’t help but notice you misquoted John 6:44 and left out the word “can”. Here this is what it actually says: JOHN 6:44 44 No man CAN come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. Drawing gets a man TO Christ, it does not get a person IN Christ. Believing in FAITH gets you IN Christ. DRAW does not equal conversion Calvinists remove the word “can” and say,”no one come(s) to me.” John 6:44 clearly shows that man has the ABILITY to come because it says “CAN” come. So if the Father draws them then they CAN come. Q: Does the Father draw ALL amen or only some men? A: JOHN 12:32 32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL people to myself.” Sentence is: MAN/CAN/COME Modified by: NO/EXCEPT DRAWS HIM. When the Father Draws, the RESULT is that man CAN come. Questions: Are they forced to come? Do they come? Doesn’t say. CAN they come? Yes. ************************************ JOHN 6:65 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that NO MAN CAN COME UNTO ME, EXCEPT IT WERE GIVEN UNTO HIM OF MY FATHER. Q: Was it given? A: It WAS GIVEN in John 6:32,33,51 It was also GIVEN in John 1:9 and 2 Corinthians 5:18-20 JOHN 6:32,33 32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but MY FATHER GIVETH YOU THE TRUE BREAD FROM HEAVEN. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and GIVETH LIFE UNTO THE WORLD. ************************************ JOHN 6:51 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: IF ANY MAN EAT OF THIS BREAD, HE SHALL LIVE FOR EVER: AND THE BREAD THAT I WILL GIVE IS MY FLESH, WHICH I WILL GIVE FOR THE LIFE OF THE WORLD.
@Sumuelelinsanito
@Sumuelelinsanito 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, but liberated in a concious, willing way. Not unwillng unconcious, uninvited.
@lanceasher6492
@lanceasher6492 3 жыл бұрын
Seducing Spirit
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
You do not want to repent
@marcelturner7696
@marcelturner7696 Жыл бұрын
Many words, few Scriptures.
@anthonyloibl2945
@anthonyloibl2945 9 ай бұрын
Why doesn't God regenerate everyone? 1 Timothy 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
@weobeyjesus4565
@weobeyjesus4565 6 жыл бұрын
Why would God leave a person's eternal destiny upto the man? People go to hell for not being clever enough to save themselves? God is judging people and he grants salvation and belief to those who are ashamed after their sin. Those who have no shame show themselves to be evil. You cannot escape or take God's grace. If he gives it you will be transformed and given the Holy Spirit. If there are no Christians around (like in tribal jungle areas) you will just be saved at your judgement by grace. The only way a person can go to heaven is if they gain and keep God's grace. Grace causes belief. Belief does not cause grace.
@apilkey
@apilkey 4 жыл бұрын
WE OBEY JESUS Freely believing in Christ is not saving yourself where did you come up with that idea because it’s not scriptural. God saves. 0% man. 100% God. Scripture is clear you have to RECEIVE God’s saving grace that’s available to ALL. ...According to Romans 5:17 we receive the abundance of God’s grace BY FAITH: ROMANS 5:17 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; MUCH MORE THEY WHICH RECEIVE ABUNDANCE OF GRACE and of the gift of righteousness SHALL REIGN IN LIFE by one, Jesus Christ.) Q: WHO shall reign in life? A: Those who RECEIVE the abundance of GRACE. *********************************** ...According to Acts 15:21 clearly states you have to believe that THROUGH THE GRACE PROVIDED you will be saved: ACTS 15:11 11 But WE BELIEVE THAT THROUGH THE GRACE of the Lord Jesus Christ WE SHALL BE SAVED, EVEN AS THEY.
@ta3p-theannex3project84
@ta3p-theannex3project84 5 жыл бұрын
After 10 minutes listening god was in a deep sleep.
@carolynflippo6808
@carolynflippo6808 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t God already know who would want to be His?
@davidochiengbuoga7165
@davidochiengbuoga7165 11 ай бұрын
Yes,He knew them even before the world began
@sketchbook1
@sketchbook1 Жыл бұрын
"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still." Dr. Sproul may say that God doesn't "drag" or "compel" sinners to come to Christ against their will, but that they come freely. But what he doesn't say is that God, by changing a person's will and nature by regeneration, is literally changing them against their will. God changes their nature and will irresistibly, and then they have the freedom to resist (because they're regenerated) but they never would resist, so they always come willingly. But they only come willingly after they've had their nature changed against their will and nature...
@sketchbook1
@sketchbook1 Жыл бұрын
And when Non-Calvinists say that Jesus said, "...When the Son of Man is lifted up, I will draw all men to myself" (which has the same word for "drag" or "compel" as the previous verse about no one coming to Jesus unless the Father "draws/drags/compels" him) they don't let the word have any real force.
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
@@sketchbook1 they affirm their self righteousness and refuse to repent
@sketchbook1
@sketchbook1 Жыл бұрын
@@iacoponefurio1915 True. But that only makes moral sense in a non-Calvinistic, non-deterministic paradigm. In the Calvinist worldview, those people, even though they are drawn, are never brought to repentance -- NOT because they refuse to repent as if they could have repented-- but because they were never regenerated unconditionally-- even worse, they were salvific-ly hated before they ever even did anything self-righteous or sinful. Their whole lives, including all their selfishness, sinful desires, and self-righteousness, came not ultimately from themselves, but was pre-determined by God. THAT'S THE PROBLEM-- Determinism. The problem is not with the scriptures here, which say Christ draws all men, and that God truly loves the world enough to send His son to die for all of their sins-- even the unrepentant. The problem is the Calivinistic view that God determines even the sinful desires of man, and pre-condemns them for those determined desires and actions. That's not scripture. That's not even Gospel. That's neo-Gnosticism and neo-Manichaeanism and should be firmly rejected for the sake of the honor and glory of Christ.
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 7 жыл бұрын
Again with the conflation of Semipelagianism and Arminianism... Let's hear what John Cassian (the founder of Semipelagianism) and Jacobus Arminius (the founder of Arminianism) have to say about human will and depravity: Cassian: “[E]ven of his own motion a man can be led to the quest of virtue, but always stands in need of the help of the Lord . . . through the excellence of nature which is granted by the goodness of the Creator, sometimes first beginnings of a good will arise, which however cannot attain to the complete performance of what is good unless it is guided by the Lord . . . And so these are somehow mixed up and indiscriminately confused, so that among many persons, which depends on the other is involved in great questionings, i.e., does God have compassion upon us because we have shown the beginning of a good will, or does the beginning of a good will follow because God has had compassion upon us? For many believing each of these and asserting them more widely than is right are entangled in all kinds of opposite errors. For if we say that the beginning of free will is in our own power, what about Paul the persecutor, what about Matthew the publican, of whom the one was drawn to salvation while eager for bloodshed and the punishment of the innocent, the other for violence and rapine? But if we say that the beginning of our free will is always due to the inspiration of the grace of God, what about the faith of Zaccheus, or what are we to say of the goodness of the thief on the cross, who by their own desires brought violence to bear on the kingdom of heaven and so prevented the special leadings of their vocation?” (Conference 13, chs. 9 &11). Arminius: “In this state, the free will of man towards the true good is not only wounded, maimed, infirm, bent, and weakened; but it is also imprisoned, destroyed, and lost. And its powers are not only debilitated and useless unless they be assisted by grace, but it has no powers whatever except such as are excited by Divine grace. For Christ has said, ‘Without me ye can do nothing.’ St. Augustine, after having diligently meditated upon each word in this passage, speaks thus: ‘Christ does not say, without me ye can do but Little; neither does He say, without me ye can do any Arduous Thing, nor without me ye can do it with difficulty. But he says, without me ye can do Nothing! Nor does he say, without me ye cannot complete any thing; but without me ye can do Nothing.’ . . . nothing can be spoken more truly concerning man in this state, than that he is altogether dead in sin . . . our will is not free from the first fall; that is, it is not free to good, unless it be made free by the Son through his Spirit . . . For when a new light and knowledge of God and Christ, and of the Divine will, have been kindled in his mind; and when new affections, inclinations and motions agreeing with the law of God, have been excited in his heart, and new powers have been produced in him; it comes to pass, that, being liberated from the kingdom of darkness, and being now made ‘light in the Lord,’ (Ephesians 5:8,) he understands the true and saving good; that, after the hardness of his stony heart has been changed into the softness of flesh, and the law of God according to the covenant of grace has been inscribed on it, (Jeremiah 31, 32-35,) he loves and embraces that which is good, just, and holy; and that, being made capable in Christ, co-operating now with God, he prosecutes the good which he knows and loves, and he begins himself to perform it in deed. But this, whatever it may be of knowledge, holiness and power, is all begotten within him by the Holy Spirit . . . to whom the acts of illumination, regeneration, renovation, and confirmation, are attributed in the Scriptures” (Disputations 11, sections 7, 11, & 12).
@alanlietzke5738
@alanlietzke5738 4 ай бұрын
Yes regeneration (by grace) precedes faith (a gift of grace) Moreover, verses, which appear to assert "Justified by Faith" (Rom 3:28, 5:1, Gal 2:16, 3:11, 3:24) have been mistranslated, and should have more properly translated, and contextually-consistent as: "Justified by a faithfulness", thereby removing apparent contradictions with, "justified by the Blood of Jesus (Rom 5:9 ), or the faithfulness of Jesus (Rom 3:24) justified by grace (Titus 3:7), and not justified by faith alone (Jam 2:24).
@user-nr1sy3vz4g
@user-nr1sy3vz4g 8 ай бұрын
Grace is resistible, 1 Cor 215 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for, “Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?”[d] But we have the mind of Christ. You can only resistance to the things you know. RC said that those who resist are not born again (quicken). To say that reprobate resist is illogical because they don't know what are they resisting. We can only resist something that we very well known. That is why everybody is born again. For you cannot believed unless you're born again. There is no way. Some just ignore what was revealed to them. They chose to be independent of God. John 6:44,65 are time lined, this was before the cross, when all are dead in sins. But after the cross all became alive (spiritual), there's no need for God to qualify anyone.
@Orthodoxbound
@Orthodoxbound 7 ай бұрын
LMBO hey water water
@normmcinnis4102
@normmcinnis4102 5 ай бұрын
misunderstanding of John 6:44
@rav66c65
@rav66c65 9 жыл бұрын
What if man seeks God for only selfish, thereby sinful intentions? An unusual thought, but worthy of thought. Then, no grace would be necessary.
@jaysmith4302
@jaysmith4302 8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin C The quick answer is in Rom. 3:11. There is none who seeks for God. An unsaved person may believe there is a God and seek His blessings for selfish reasons, but he does not seek God Himself. After Adam and Eve sinned, when God came down to the garden, they ran away. They wanted nothing to do with God.
@ewross1
@ewross1 8 жыл бұрын
+Jay Smith does a person get under " Holy Ghost conviction" but never come to Christ for salvation. I get this question a lot. I believe in the doctrines of grace. I would love to hear a good response to this, a sermon, etc.
@evanu6579
@evanu6579 7 жыл бұрын
Jay Smith You're taking Rom 3 out of context. God is not a liar. Isa 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
@evanu6579
@evanu6579 7 жыл бұрын
EW Ross The bible records people resisting the Holy Spirit. Acts 13:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Luk 7:29 And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him. Faith comes before regeneration..... Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, I don't understand how people can believe in this doctrine. God bless
@joshuatheo1419
@joshuatheo1419 3 жыл бұрын
Then it's because he's not regenerated.
@marckemp9955
@marckemp9955 3 ай бұрын
We know we're elected because we believe. We know we believe because we show it & follow Christ's commands. Now I don't know if someone who believed 30 years ago and looked like what they said they believed and then lived a life of hedonism ever since then's status when they die. We don't know. There's no way for us to know. But we can know while we're alive because of what the NT says about how salvation looks to other people who also claim to believe. Are you producing fruit in abiding in repentance?
@villiestephanov984
@villiestephanov984 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus answered Matthew, and said to 17.11 of them. Likewise the son of man is also about to suffer @ their hands. Then The Disciples understood that He spoke to Them of " John the Baptist"! Peter said to him and so 26.35 disciples : " even if I have to die with you, I will not deny You!" And Jesus came and spoke to them all 28:18 authority. Now Luke' 3:15 all reasoned in their hearts about John, whether He was the Christ !! And woe to you 11:46 Lawyers !! (( For 22:28 have continued with Me in My trials ..24.33 rose up that very hour and returned to Jerusalem and found The Eleven , and Those who were with Them gathered together saying :" the Lord is risen indeed and has appeared to Simon !")) John, who believes in Him, 3.18 is not condemned..., However, other 6.23 boats came from Tiberias, near the place were they ate bread, after the Lord had given thanks ( Translate the Sea of Galilee and Tarsus ) Now, Acts 5:24 - the High Priest ; The Captain of the Temple and The chief priests wondered what the outcome would be !!!( Agrippians) Now about that time Herod the king stretched out His hand to harass 12, some Acts from the church. And now indeed 13:11 Acts of Sergius Paulius are all Paul's 2 LIPS with The Proconsul of 14 Romans, where to His Own Master He stands or falls. Indeed He will be made to stand for God !!! But now after 4:9 Galatians have known God, how is it that You turn again to the weak and beggarly elements ? Peter ? Or James ... that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs of 3.6 Ephesians & partakers of His Promise in Christ ?... Through the gospel?? Of which I became minister ? - "irresistible grace " ? Is not the words of wind have an end ?? According to the gift of grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power, you are all retarded beyond limitations...
@marlak1104
@marlak1104 4 жыл бұрын
Don't chop up the Gospel, don't attack God's people.
@reynaldodavid2913Jo
@reynaldodavid2913Jo 9 ай бұрын
Wonderful preaching RC Sproul, You are indeed a brilliant theologian, However there is still one revelation of Jesus that you lack knowledge of, because if you do know what Jesus revealed then you will know that those totally depraved people are not the fallen descendants of Adam, The descendants of Adam are not totally depraved, but they are born sinner brcause they inherited the sinful nsture of Adam after the Fall, they still have the desire to do good, they still have the desire to be with God but they cannot make it, and they still need to be regenerated to overcome the sin that grip them.. The totally depraved people are the children of the devil, they are not the descendants of Adam, Example of them can be found in John 8:44...
@reynaldodavid2913Jo
@reynaldodavid2913Jo 9 ай бұрын
WHAT IS THE INTERPRETATION of the PARABLE of WHEAT and TARES? In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those those who are pre predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THIS PARABLE .
@reynaldodavid2913Jo
@reynaldodavid2913Jo 3 ай бұрын
@@HaroldZwingley, Please use your common sense, How can Abel be included in the Genealogy of Adam when he is already dead and cannot reproduce a son.. The Genealogy of Adam cannot continue if you put Abel next to Adam... Another thing, why is Cain very evil? he even was very angry with God, of his own sin, God said to him, if you do well will you not be accepted? John 8:44, Jesus was talking to the sons of the devil and told them, you are like your father who is a murderer, He was refering to Cain their great grandfather.. If Cain is not the son of the serpent, who is the seed of the serpent mentioned in Genesis 3:15? There is not even one verse in the entire bible that says Cain is the son of Adam, you just misinterpret Genesis 4... Sorry bro, your knowledge of the bible is just the wrong interpretation of the evil Catholic church...
@alanlietzke5738
@alanlietzke5738 4 ай бұрын
The "drawing" of Jn 6:44 is misleading, and decreases the sovereignty of God toward the Arminian "wooing". The proper rendering of the verb, "Elkuo" is "drag" as in dragging reluctant fish or reluctant prisoners. The verb means to use whatever force is required to achieve the desired outcome, consistent with the absolute and complete sovereignty of God. This verse is one of many verses, in which the sovereignty of God in the Greek text is watered down by biased Arminian translators.
@edengardenlabs7773
@edengardenlabs7773 3 жыл бұрын
The wisdom of man is foolishness with God ...as far as the heavens are from the earth is as high as Gods thoughts are above RC SPROUL. He will use the foolish things to confound the wise
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 4 жыл бұрын
Did the Early Church Fathers teach "Calvinism"?: @
@markwills3602
@markwills3602 4 жыл бұрын
Nope - No where is this taught.
@danielomitted1867
@danielomitted1867 3 жыл бұрын
Are they your authority? Because I guarantee they taught a lot of things you don't believe.
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 11 ай бұрын
@@danielomitted1867They taught the catholic truth.
@danielomitted1867
@danielomitted1867 11 ай бұрын
@@christsavesreadromans1096 not a single one in the first 500 years believed all the things now required to you by the Roman church. The church is Catholic, as in universal, not Roman. When you read the church fathers you'll realize they are a diverse group.
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 11 ай бұрын
@@danielomitted1867 The Church of Rome is apostolic, and we had Apostle Peter as our first bishop, something you cannot claim with your manmade church. Your church even rejects the Eucharist, which the early church fathers accepted, and believed it to be the real flesh and blood of Jesus.
@aaronwolf4211
@aaronwolf4211 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a caricature. It’s absolutely the reality of this false doctrine taken to its logical conclusion. At no point in the history of Christianity was this doctrine EVER in line with the Gospel and the true teachings of the Church…until one arrogant murderer from the 16th century took it upon himself to make it so. TULIP makes a mockery of God at all levels. Lord have mercy!
@apilkey
@apilkey 4 жыл бұрын
Now that we’ve listened to a man’s OPINION let’s look at straight SCRIPTURE and see what the Word of God says and hang what this man says in the balance and see if he comes out wanting. We need to ask ourselves what does God’s Word day? Is scripture actually your true authority or is a man made systematic? Scripture is clear you have to RECEIVE God’s saving grace that’s available to ALL. Receiving something in faith is NOT meritorious. You have to believe that THROUGH THE GRACE PROVIDED you will be saved: ACTS 15:11 11 But WE BELIEVE THAT THROUGH THE GRACE of the Lord Jesus Christ WE SHALL BE SAVED, EVEN AS THEY. We have to RECEIVE the grace of God that’s AVAILABLE TO ALL in Titus 2:11. ...According to Romans 5:17 we receive the abundance of God’s grace BY FAITH: ROMANS 5:17 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; MUCH MORE THEY WHICH RECEIVE ABUNDANCE OF GRACE and of the gift of righteousness SHALL REIGN IN LIFE by one, Jesus Christ.) Q: WHO shall reign in life? A: Those who RECEIVE the abundance of GRACE. ************************************ ... According to Jonah 2:8 you can forsake the mercy that’s been made available to you: JONAH 2:8 8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their OWN mercy. Mercy is available to ALL but we can choose to reject it. They had their OWN mercy. It was theirs. They had it. They forsook what was theirs. ************************************ ...According to Hebrews 10:29 there will be those whom the Spirit of grace was offered to but they refused to enter in and instead trampled Christ underfoot. They did this DESPITE the Spirit of grace that they indeed had: HEBREWS 10:29 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and HATH DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE? ************************************ ... It’s clear in 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 the very reason that some are not saved and perish. It’s simply and unarguably because THEY RECEIVED NOT the love of the truth. Not because it wasn’t offered to them but because they freely chose not to receive the gracious offer initiated by God and therefore are legitimately without excuse: 2 THESSALONIANS 2:10-12 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And FOR THIS CAUSE God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. ************************************ ... According to John 12:48 mankind will be judged based on receiving or rejecting God’s word. It makes a mockery of God’s Justice if we will be judged on something we are completely unable to respond to: JOHN 12:48 48 HE THAT REJECTETH ME, AND RECEIVETH NOT MY WORDS, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. ************************************ ... According to Acts 13:46 there were some who put the word of God sway from themselves and judged THEMSELVES unworthy of eternal life: ACTS 13:46 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: BUT SEEING YE PUT IT FROM YOU, AND JUDGE YOURSELVES UNWORTHY OF EVERLASTING LIFE, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. ************************************ ...According to Romans 13:2 those that RESIST what’s available to them (the power and ordinance of God) receive damnation: ROMANS 13:2 2 WHOSOEVER THEREFORE RESISTETH THE POWER, RESISTETH THE ORDINANCE OF GOD: AND THEY THAT RESIST SHALL RECEIVE TO THEMSELVES DAMNATION. ************************************ ... According to Acts 7:52 those with stiff necks RESISTED the Holy Ghost: ACTS 7:51 51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST THE HOLY GHOST: AS YOUR FATHERS DID, SO DO YE. ************************************ ... According to 1 Thessalonians 5:19 one can QUENCH the Holy Spirit: 1 THESSALONIANS 5:19 19 QUENCH NOT THE SPIRIT. ************************************ ... According Ephesians 4:30 one can GRIEVE the Holy Spirit: EPHESIANS 4:30 30 And GRIEVE NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. ************************************ ...Here’s the BIBLICAL doctrine of Grace: It’s just simply called GRACE. Not prevenient, not anything else. Just simply GRACE. SAVING GRACE. Titus 2:11 clearly states God’s SAVING GRACE has appeared to ALL men. TITUS 2:11 11 FOR THE GRACE OF GOD THAT BRINGETH SALVATION HATH APPEARED TO ALL MEN, Not just grace but SAVING grace. Grace that BRINGETH SALVATION. ************************************ Q: WHO has this SAVING grace appeared to? A: ALL men. ...Not all me are saved so obviously we can reject this gracious option: 2 THESSALONIANS 2:10 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
@danielomitted1867
@danielomitted1867 3 жыл бұрын
You clearly don't understand what youre trying to refute.
@Mikael5732
@Mikael5732 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielomitted1867 This Pilkey does this all the time. He argues using circular reasoning. He is the type of guy who has an un-teachable spirit.
@martinswifejodi
@martinswifejodi 2 жыл бұрын
Wow @MikeDuke, and you're the kind of guy who thinks he is judge and condemner. Keep on living in your arrogance and pride and see where it gets you.
@apilkey
@apilkey 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielomitted1867 I clearly understand the truth of God’s Word and that it refutes the false gospel of Calvinism.
@apilkey
@apilkey 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mikael5732 My spirit has been reached by Christ and knows the truth of God’s Word that is directly against Calvinism. Sounds like you don’t have ears to hear or eyes to see.
@ezekielkimosop1094
@ezekielkimosop1094 3 жыл бұрын
If this doctrine is true, why does God arbitrarily choose between sinners? Why does he choose some and reject sum? I disagree with Calvinism.
@joshuatheo1419
@joshuatheo1419 3 жыл бұрын
God doesn't arbitrarily choose between sinners, He unconditionally elects them in Christ based on His grace.
@jakefink4040
@jakefink4040 3 жыл бұрын
Romans 9:16-18
@LogHewer
@LogHewer 2 жыл бұрын
All sinners deserve hell. God grants mercy to some. The sinners He doesn't elect receive justice. Those He elects receive mercy. No one receives injustice.
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
He created all people before time you brainless zombie That is the opposite of arbitrary unrepentant evil liar.
@uncasunga1800
@uncasunga1800 Жыл бұрын
@@LogHewer True but He chose before time and He elected those he created to repent and receive Him. We adjust to him. He does not learn from us or about us.
@papabear887
@papabear887 Жыл бұрын
King Saul, anointed of God, received the Holy Spirit TWICE (1Samuel 10:6-13, 16:14, 19:21-24, 24:10, and 26:23). And yet chose to do evil. Adam and Eve when they were sinless, chose to know evil and chose to disobey God by eating from the Tree of the Knowledge using their God given freewill. Sproul believes that God has freewill and when God decided to create man in His image and likeness, suddenly an atheist has freewill to disbelieve God but has no freewill to believe in God. A muslim has freewill to ask for forgiveness from anyone but has no frewill to believe in God upon hearing His Word. He has freewill to believe in Islam or allah but has no freewill to believe in God. Calvinism has to remove freewill in their “irresistible grace” doctrine to fit their philosophical cunundrum they have created. You will never ever find a passage that says “irresistible grace” in the entirety of the Scripture. This Calvinism is based from John Calvin’s created doctrine that God Himself “reprobated” many to damnation along with predestining others to being chosen. Calvin chose to damn God’s holy character, defaming and profaning His Name by saying that He Himself created and authored evil in Calvin’s difficulty with understanding foreknowledge, election, predestination passages in Romans, Ephesians, and elsewhere. Calvinism is the exact description of Colossians 2 about being a deceptive empty philosophy, man made religion according to tradition of men and basic principles that have an appearance of wisdom and humility “yet none are of any value for stopping the indulgence of the flesh (v 23).” John Calvin, the Calvinists’ super hero, when he was ruler of Geneva, had Michael Servetus, a Spanish theologian and physician, seized and burned alive in Oct. 27, 1533. He in fact wanted him beheaded. And for what...for disagreeing Calvin in some doctrine. So, Calvinists are so deluded that they think they are honoring God and yet call Him evil as well. If you were the father or brother or mother or sister of Michael Servetus, would you embrace Calvinism?
@iacoponefurio1915
@iacoponefurio1915 Жыл бұрын
What a freak show Get medicated
@papabear887
@papabear887 Жыл бұрын
@@iacoponefurio1915 Michael Servetus Oct 27, 1533 burned alive by John Calvin, reformed theologians’ and calvinists’ super idol.
@riverjao
@riverjao 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to this makes me so glad that I wasn’t predestined to be a Calvinist 🤦‍♂️
@Mikael5732
@Mikael5732 3 жыл бұрын
Are you born again?
@riverjao
@riverjao 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mikael5732 Are you?
@Terror1Void
@Terror1Void 2 жыл бұрын
The pride of man on full display here. Imagine thinking any man can get themselves into heaven by repeating a prayer or expressing "faith".
@riverjao
@riverjao 2 жыл бұрын
@@Terror1Void Amen.
@LogHewer
@LogHewer 2 жыл бұрын
He's a great teacher. You're losing out by dismissing his lecture with an attempt at wit.
@Mike65809
@Mike65809 6 ай бұрын
Total depravity? Total inability? Really? There are four types of soil, or hearts, according to Jesus. Only one was so hard the word was stolen out of it. The fourth was a good heart and received the word. The other two did receive the word, yet in the end bore no fruit for various reasons. So Scripture does not support such an idea.
@Mike65809
@Mike65809 3 ай бұрын
@@HaroldZwingley The Holy Spirit convicts of sin, righteousness, and judgment. But what about the 4 types of soil?
@pastordavidberman2091
@pastordavidberman2091 5 жыл бұрын
That’s not a misconception. In Calvinism a person will go to heaven because God forces them. RC was a great man and he explains things in a nice way but it doesn’t change the doctrine. In Calvinism you are going to Heaven if he says so and you are going to Hell if he says so. This decreed before you were ever conceived. Nothing in the New Testament teaches that God makes you born again before you call on the Name of Jesus. Nonsense, nicely explained with eloquence but nonsense anyway.
@choicemeatrandy6572
@choicemeatrandy6572 5 жыл бұрын
Ephesians 1:4 For He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world. Before there was a world, a choice was made and that choice precedes anything any human being did.
@pastordavidberman2091
@pastordavidberman2091 4 жыл бұрын
KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC Jesus said “if I be lifted up I will join ALL men unto me”
@choicemeatrandy6572
@choicemeatrandy6572 4 жыл бұрын
@@pastordavidberman2091 So no women and children? Just men?
@pastordavidberman2091
@pastordavidberman2091 4 жыл бұрын
Choice Meat Randy men means mankind. Don’t be silly
@choicemeatrandy6572
@choicemeatrandy6572 4 жыл бұрын
@@pastordavidberman2091 Alright so "men" when used in context in the Bible usually means all mankind and not biological males. Could it be possible that you're also misinterpreting what "all" means in the context of the verse you just quoted?
@user-nr1sy3vz4g
@user-nr1sy3vz4g 8 ай бұрын
How can you draw a dead person? You need to made him alive for him/her to respond, is it not? So what you saying is that a person needs to be born again to be born-again. That is absurdity. When Jesus died all are born again the way we all die. No profession of faith or anything. Then by being born again we will be able to understand the call which is spiritual 1 Cor 2:13-15. We accept it or ignore it, it is up to us. But everyone is informed.
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