Awesome

sola gratia

Amen.

I'm new to all of this and the same thing has happened to me regarding the Ministry of R.C. Sproul, I've heard the name, but never heard or watched him until a day or two ago, and have been watching everything I could get my hand on:)

Me too!

Same here.

Awesome keep listening!

I so love this comment! My crown also will be at His feet! Amen!

As my brother has always said "To whom does the glory go?" When confronted with a question

Apex Twin is wickedly demonic brother

So many incorrect teachings from this man.

@@timothyseals3791 Repent you demon

@@WillMakeYouFree Heretic.

@@WillMakeYouFree You keep trolling me. 🤣 Heretic.

@@WillMakeYouFree You started it. 😆 🤣 Can dish it out but you can't take it.

“who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself *a people for His own possession*, zealous for good deeds.” ‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:14‬

I disagree, we are Christians by virtue of the correct interpretation of scripture (i.e., Reformed theology, or "Calvinism ") first regeneration, then Christianity, then correct doctrine, contending for the faith that was once delivered to the saints is a divine command, sharing the truth of scripture IS an exercise in love

Arminians who defend their self righteousness are not brothers and are against Gods grace. Which I suspect is true of you

If the way you are understanding this scripture is to refute the biblical truth then this must mean no one goes to hell. If all men come to Jesus right ? We know that all men do not come to Christ because not all belong to Christ.

All men=Jews and Gentiles. It does not mean every single person

Me to... PERMANENT happiness Expressed in his being. Joy in the Lord

God's word is a sword that goes straight to the problem! The human sinful heart! The old heart must be removed! God must replace with a new heart, hence, we must be born again!

Michael this is crazy, this exact line of thought you expounded is exactly what has been on my mind lately, like, when Adam sinned he was cut off separate from God in Spirit só his will was turned from God disconnected completely, he will chose always to do his will and pursue his own glory he wont turn to God, thats why sovereign grace is só hated amongst us sinners because it goes directly against our natural inclination of self willing, romans says that the Flesh is unable to submit to Gods law or will, thats the very characterization of our sinful condition...

@@yeshuaisking1247 Which is also why we are to 'be clothed with humility' as Christ is (1Pet.5:5, Ps.149:4). God bless you richly!

Paul says that before the foundation of the world those "in Him" that is, in Christ were chosen for certain blessings. Read Ephesians chapter 1, the entire thing through chapter 3 lists the blessings for Christians in Christ.. It is a list of blessings for those "in Christ" - "In Him," Christians. These verses in no way refer to people being elected from a lost state to a saved state, but they refer to blessing for those already in Christ. I suggest you read it. Because God made the choice before the foundation of the world (knowing that man would sin) that "In Him", in Christ would be these blessings that has nothing to do with choosing to save someone before they are born. That interpretation is contrary to almost every thing in the New Testament. Blessings to you. May you read and study and God open your mind to the simple truth written in plain English. Stop listening, please, to someone teaching Augustine's philosophy which was never heard of in the Church before Augustine. This is Augustine's doctrine which was the current Pagan Philosophy of Augustine's day. The church fought this doctrine, a Pagan doctrine, now R C teaches it as a biblical truth.

And never missed a step or stammered a word, great teacher.

Daniel, please apply. Local p.d F.b.i. d.e.a. and all other... observation is critical.

Michael Stanley I couldn’t help but notice that you deceptively misquoted Paul and said that “the will of the flesh and the carnal mind cannot come to Christ; indeed it cannot.” That’s NOT what the scriptures say. It does NOT say the word “come to Christ” it says “SUBMIT” to Christ. BIG DIFFERENCE. Can I ask why you freely chose to misquote this verse? Are you trying to deceive the minds of the simple? Just for the record for others who are reading this... this is what the verse actually says: ROMANS 8:7 7 For the mind that is SET ON THE FLESH is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. **This passage is crystal clear it’s speaking ONLY to the mind that is set on the FLESH. BUT if our minds are set on SEEKing the Lord then we we’re NOT hostile to God. This passage absolutely does NOT say what reformers want it to say. They want it to say that no one can set their minds on the things of the spirit, but that’s NOT what the passage says at all. A man who’s mind is set on the flesh simply cannot SUBMIT to God’s laws. It’s a quantum leap to then make the false assumption that man also therefore cannot ADMIT this inability to submit to God in faith and ask Him to give them a new heart so that they then CAN submit to God by walking in the Spirit. Believing in faith doesn’t mean submitting to God it means you’re admitting to Him that you CAN’T submit and that you need His hemp and His mercy so that you CAN. Even a born again Christian can’t submit to God’s laws unless He surrenders and dies to self daily and ALLOWS the Holy Spirit to lead him and guide him. **It’s still possible to acknowledge this and repent. The fall of Adam did not take away the knowledge of good and evil, but it actually did the opposite and OPENED Adam’s eyes and gave him the knowledge of good and evil. Once you repent and turn to Christ then you CAN submit. If you continue in your sin then of course you can’t submit. You need to turn and repent at which point YOU CAN SUBMIT.

@@apilkey 'the will of the flesh' is from Jn.1:13, which shows that regeneration is only 'of God'. Men's 'flesh mind' is from Adam, who did his own will while knowing God's will. Thanks for pointing out that most people need scripture references included. Also, Matt.11:28, Jn.6:65, Acts 17:27, etc indicate that God 'hath determined' that humble hearts would indeed 'find Him', as it is to those He gives grace (1Pet.5:5, Ps.149:4). Thanks! It's Jesus Who points out our inability to please God, until He authors faith in our hearts. Jesus says, 'Without Me ye(plural) can do nothing'. John writes that every thing is a gift 'from Heaven' (Jn.3:27). Every breath we take is a gift of life (temporal), and receiving/taking Christ as our 'Lord and Christ' is also 'given unto (us) of the Father' (Jn.6:65). 'given' and 'granted' are the same Greek word (#1325 in Strong's)

Michael Stanley thanks for pointing out that regeneration is only of God. That’s a given we all know that and no one is debating that. Man doesn’t regenerate himself. Man is regenerated by God AFTER he freely believes. Seems like you’re conflating faith and believing with being regenerated. When Jesus states without me you can do nothing He wasn’t referring at all ru freely accepting His free gift of salvation. Again context and meaning. You can quote scripture all day long but do you understand it? Do you know who and why God have certain people to the Son during His earthly ministry? Do you have any idea of what was happening in the book of John and especially in chapter 5. Read the book of John starting in chapter 1 and you won’t stumble by the time you get to chapter 6. It’s all very clear and makes perfect sense. Also refer to the end of the book of John where the author himself tells you his purpose for writing. Will you listen to John or will you attempt to come up with your own purpose? ************************************ We must meditate on one of the VERY FIRST STATEMENTS in the beginning of the book of John: JOHN 1:9 9 That was the true Light, WHICH LIGHTETH EVERY MAN THAT COMETH INTO THE WORLD. ************************************ We also must meditate on Jesus’ analogy in John 3:14-18: JOHN 3:14-18 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, EVEN SO must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the WORLD THROUGH HIM MIGHT BE SAVED. 18 HE THAT BELIEVETH on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. **Why is Jesus Christ’s analogy of salvation discarded by reformed theology? Should we not listen to what the Saviour Himself says about salvation? This verse should be held in much higher regard than we do. ************************************ We also must meditate on Jesus’ statement in John 5:34: JOHN 5:34 34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, THAT YE MIGHT BE SAVED. ************************************ And finally we must meditate on JOHN’S CONCLUSION and summary at the end of John: JOHN 20:31 31 BUT THESE ARE WRITTEN, THAT YE MIGHT BELIEVE that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; AND THAT BELIEVING YE MIGHT HAVE LIFE THROUGH HIS NAME. ************************************ We must also meditate on JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF’s SUMMARY in John 12:44-48: JOHN 12:44-48 44 Jesus cried and said, HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, BELIEVETH not on me, but ON HIM THAT SENT ME. 45 And he that seeth me SEETH HIM THAT SENT ME. 46 I am come a light into the world, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH ON ME SHOULD NOT ABIDE IN DARKNESS. **(John **3:19**-21)** 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, BUT TO SAVE THE WORLD. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Michael Stanley You must read John 5 to get a good understanding of what’s happening in John 6. You also must ask yourself was God only hiding things from certain groups of people during His EARTHLY ministry in order to accomplish something SPECIFIC (namely going to the cross). The simple fact that Jesus had to speak in parables and hide truths from people proves that they were in fact able to respond or else their would be no need to blind them. Why would you need to put a blindfold on a corpse who was already dead if it was impossible for them to respond to the truth anyways? Jesus knew that they would come to the light because that’s how compelling, persuasive and convincing He was. He chose to blind and harden only people that were already set against Him because if He didn’t then there was a possibility of them not crucifying Him. ...It’s because they WERE capable of seeing the truth. That is precisely why Jesus had to hide these things and speak in parables or else they would’ve believed and never crucified him: 1 CORINTHIANS 2:8 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would NOT have crucified the Lord of glory. ********************************** It’s ALWAYS judicial hardening in an act of judgment against those who are ALREADY freely rejecting Him. God has every right to use such people to accomplish His will. This doesn’t mean He creates specific people just for that very cause with no hope of salvation whatsoever. He raises them up for His very purposes only AFTER they’ve freely rejected Him. And this also dues not mean the hardening is ever permanent. There’s ALWAYS hope for salvation IF we humble ourselves and cry out to God for mercy. The only time it ever to late is when we’re in the grave. ...According to 2 Corinthians 3:14-16 is the veil taken away first so they can then turn to the Lord, or do they have to turn to the Lord FIRST before the veil is taken away? 2 CORINTHIANS 3:14-16 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16 Nevertheless WHEN IT SHALL TURN TO THE LORD, the vail shall be taken away. ********************************** We must seek the honor that comes from God and not from men. That’s why the scribes and Pharisees weren’t given by the Father to the Son because they sought their own honor: JOHN 5:44 44 HOW CAN YE BELIEVE, which receive honour one of another, and SEEK NOT THE HONOUR THAT COMETH FROM GOD ONLY? ************************************ If the scribes and Pharisees truly sought the Lord by faith then they would recognize the Son and the Father would give them to the Son like He did with Cornelius. JOHN 5:36-47 36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, THE SAME WORKS THAT I DO, BEAR WITNESS OF ME, THAT THE FATHER HATH SENT ME. 37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, HATH BORNE WITNESS OF ME. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 38 And YE HAVE NOT HIS WORD ABIDING IN YOU: FOR WHOM HE HATH SENT, HIM YE BELIEVE NOT. 39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And YE WILL NOT COME TO ME, THAT YE MIGHT HAVE LIFE. 41 I receive not honour from men. 42 But I know you, that YE HAVE NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN YOU. 43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 44 HOW CAN YE BELIEVE, which receive honour one of another, and SEEK NOT THE HONOUR THAT COMETH FROM GOD ONLY? 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46 For HAD YE BELIEVED MOSES, YE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED ME; for he wrote of me. 47 But IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS, HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS?

@@apilkey Being neither a calvinist or arminian I need not debate with any one. Some believe faith and regeneration happen together, such as myself. You continue to miss my points, looking for what I don't know. John ch.5 begins on a sabbath/feast day. Jesus' opposers were seeking their own interests, not God's. Jesus, being equal with God, was refuting their idea of observing the sabbath. The seventh day will always be blessed, and sanctified by God. Jesus pointed out that, unless they were honoring him as well as the Father, they were not honoring God as they presumed. Jesus founded an 'overcoming faith', not a 'sinning faith' as many suppose. 'Sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee' still goes (Jn.5:14). Apostle Paul makes it black and white as well, saying, 'whatsoever is not of faith is sin'. Jesus calls sinners to repentance and faith (Mk.1:15). And, it's true, men are called by the gospel (2Thes.2:14). If you had looked up the verses I cited, you would have replied differently, which is 'how and why' you missed all I said. Read my comments again, doing that, and maybe you will see my meaning. Thanks

You've already rejected Him strawman fool Duhh

@@iacoponefurio1915 call no man a fool. You risk hell fire

@nelsonbyrd3512, If one does not accept Christ, they have not been called by God/have not had their eyes opened. I hope this helps!

Neil “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭ faith itself is a gift (which is by definition, grace )

@@mailchrisbailey No ,you need faith to receive grace the gift

Neil you’re disagreeing with the verse. it literally says that even your faith is a gift does it not?

@@mailchrisbailey No.,read it again Romans 10,17Consequently, faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

@@mailchrisbailey Romans 3 . 22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction,

I believe the external factor is God. He is the ultimate source of pure light, which we do not possess. We broke away from this at the fall. I get where your struggle is with this position. We are enslaved to sin. As the apostle shared his struggles of doing the things he didn’t want to do, and how came to the conclusion that he is a wretched man. There is one of many examples of our complete inability to find God our Saviour. My free will is hemmed in and pressured by sin on every side.

Read Romans 9 again.

I would say yes

Indeed there is not biblical proof that man are spiritually blind ,deaf, and mute at least not until they willingly harden their conscience, for God says all day I have been calling but you didn't answer.

Well said. I have been studying Romans long now and that's the conclusion I got

Kind of, yes. Here’s how I understand it: before we are born again, we are born of the flesh. This means that we have sin nature; to sin is our nature. To do good is not our nature. To seek and obey God-the True God-is against our nature (because Adam and Eve, in pride, rejected God). However, God can open our eyes-only He can-and cause us to be born again in Christ; we are dead to sin but alive in Christ. At this point, a war starts within us between our flesh and our spirit, a war that is caused by a new nature we take on in Christ. Only by His Grace can we have this nature, and only by His love can we love Him and know Him-and therefore choose Him. I hope this helps!

@@valaere891 But Paul is describing himself as one under the Law, right? Isn't that the context? Under the Law, he wanted to do good, but there was another force in his body fighting to do evil. That was why he was so miserable, right? And if he was writing as a Christian, then the law of the spirit of life in Christ had NOT set him free from the law of sin and death. True? Just look how many times he refers to the law of God in the context, including all of Ch. 7. Amen?

@@Mike65809 I don’t think we’re quite on the same page here, haha. Okay, let’s read this passage, and explain it to me to the best of your ability. Hopefully, that will help us find common ground. Romans 7:4-6 “Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

@@Mike65809 Ah. I was wondering why you hadn’t replied yet, and it seems KZfaq deleted my comment. Let me try this again, sorry: I’m not entirely sure that we’re on the same page. Since you pointed to Romans 7, let’s look at that, starting in verses 4-6 (I’m using ESV). Once you’re done, it would be great if you could tell me how you understood that text so we can make sure we’re understanding each other :)

If you were correct, everyone may freely sin; since all mankind will be saved. There is no need for repentance in that case. Eat, drink, and be merry; for in the end, all mankind will be saved.

@@schaeffercox3158 Again, you use no Bible to support your false doctrine. The Bible commands us not to sin, but our salvation is not dependent on it. Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. - And we will all will all face the consequences of our actions of the flesh: 2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

MrBazinthenow amen brother these people are truly deceived. If a man has the ability to do good and still chooses to do wrong he is far more depraved than a man who CAN’T do good. Mankind is without excuse precisely because we all have been offered this free gift of salvation and we all have the freedom to either accept it or reject it. The greatest excuse that anyone could ever have when standing before God on Judgement Day would be be that, “well Lord you didn’t choose me...” Reformed theology gives mankind the greatest excuse and so must be rejected. Dead is NEVER SHOWN in the scriptures to mean MORAL INABILITY to respond to God’s truth. Dead means SPIRITUALLY SEPARATED from the presence of God due to sin and the only way to get into His presence is through Christ. **If we were actually dead as reformers portray then we wouldn’t even be able to sin!** When speaking metaphorically of deadness it’s never described as a morally incapacitated condition from birth due to the Fall, but instead as a condition of being separated from God by our own rebellion. Scripture supports a totally depraved man that is spiritually separated from God and obviously unable to save Himself. This does NOT mean man is totally incapable of responding to Him. Dead does not relate to your “ability” but to your RELATIONSHIP.

Aaron Pilkey Taking notes. Aaron, how does Genesis 6: 5 figure into human ability? Does Romans 1 support Sproul’s argument? I do realize you can’t give me your insight in this space but can you point me into other resources? Thank you..

Joyce Noble Hi Joyce, Genesis 6:5 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. This verse says nothing about an inability to respond to God. Every proof text reformers use speak of total depravity and not total inability. There’s a massive difference between being totally depraved and unable to save oneself, and being able to admit that. That’s where reformers get it wrong. Man is totally evil. Can he still admit that and accept a free gift of salvation? We are slaves to sin. Can a slave still admit he’s a slave? No one seeks God in their own. We’re not on our own. God sought us by sending His Son, His Holy Spirit, His Word, speaking time is through creation etc. If read the very next verse why would God be lamenting over something He predestined anyways? Is He lamenting causing the evil in these people’s hearts? Because that’s what reformers believe is that God decreed the very evil He’s lamenting. Genesis 6:6 6 And it REPENTED the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it GRIEVED HIM AT HIS HEART. 7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it REPENTETH ME that I have made them. These verses don’t say it grieved the Lord that He had CAUSED this evil. And what of the next verse? What of Noah? Was Noah included in the group of people God referenced in verse 5 that were evil continually? Of course not. So right there we know it’s not a complete blanket statement for every individual. Genesis 6:8 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. 9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a JUST MAN and PERFECT in his generations, and Noah walked with God. There are numerous people in the bible declared as just, perfect, righteous, noble etc. The question we need to ask ourselves when scripture says none are righteous and no one seeks God is what exactly is the author trying to convey? I know you didn’t reference Romans 3:10,11 but it’s another famous “proof-text” that again doesn’t prove total inability only total depravity. Noah is talked about in the very next chapter as being righteous so obviously Paul isn’t lying or contradicting himself. It’s a contrast between righteousness by FAITH and no one is righteous according to the LAW. Paul is quoting Psalm 14 which is poetry and hyperbole so we must also take that into account. An Ethiopian can’t change the colour of his skin but he can still admit that to the One who can. If we are really as dead as reformers claim then we wouldn’t even be able to sin.

“Seems odd to put so much emphasis on a man that so many others in the 5th century had issues with…” If I were a skeptic, I would say to you: “Seems odd to believe in a man called Jesus that so many believe doesn’t exist and openly reject…” Please rethink your reasoning. I think you could come up with a better critique of this video to help you learn more :)

By the free choices that we make....

Romans 9:10-23

Looks fine to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Scribeintheink it’s to suggest that God created something innately debaucherous. Which would be no god at all. Now if we want to say totally depraved in the sense that we are totally dependent then that’s fine. Can we not choose to love god? Of course the reformers seem to say god gives grace to those who love him but if you really believed that then why even try

Your "Free Will of Choice" is not Biblical. We know from Romans 8 that all whom God "calls", he "justifies". We know from John 6 that "all" that the Father "gives" to Christ come to him. The call of God is effectual. It is irresistible. If the Lord calls you, you will come, guaranteed. And you will come willingly.

Izaak De Jager sure its Biblical, didn't Lucifer freely choose to reject God and didn't Adam and Eve freely choose to reject God out of their own free will? I agree with Romans 8 and John 6 they don't conflict with the individuals "Free Will of Choice". The question is how much Grace is God dispensing when he calls us. He certainly isn't coercing us, that definitely wouldn't make sense and it would contradict most of the Bible, it would make God into someone who is forcing us. He certainly could force us if He so Wills it, but that is the exception and not the rule.

The question is whether or not we are in a state similar to that of Lucifer or Adam. I do not believe that we are, and the major church confessions (Westminster, Heidelberg, etc) would agree. Those confessions (which are obviously built upon the careful interpretation of Scripture), would say that we are completely in bondage to sin, and that we contribute in no way, shape, or form to our justification. It is a unilateral act of God. In Romans 8 there is an unbroken chain of redemption. Those God predestined he called. Those God called, he justified. Those whom he justified, he glorified. It is impossible to be predestined and not be called, and it is impossible to be called and not be justified. That is why Jesus said in John 6:37-40 that ALL that the Father has GIVEN to him will come to him, and THOSE who come to him, he will not cast out. The "those" refers to the ones that the Father has given to the Son to redeem. Verse 39 further backs up this point, where Jesus says that he will lose none of those whom the Father has given him. This is a hard doctrine and most people struggle with it. It also will not make much sense until you realize that if it were up to humanity, no one would ever be saved. Until we are born again by the Holy Spirit, we cannot and will not "will" one inch toward God. (see 1 Corinthians 2:14)

Izaak De Jager the only difference is the Fall, Adam and his human descendants are Fallen, but we (humans and angels) are still created creatures in GOD's Image and Likeness and capable of Freely Choosing without being forced or coerced as the Bible clearly demonstrates during the times of human temptation. By the way you cannot say that Reformed Confessions are major Confessions of the Church when they in fact only represent a very small minority of Christians world wide. Also, most Christians do not agree with these Confessions and Catechisms. If you mention any such thing as being a major Confession, Creed or Catechism then it would have to be accepted by the major Ecumenical Councils which are representative of most mainstream Christendom! You said: "That is why Jesus said in John 6:37-40 that ALL that the Father has GIVEN to him will come to him, and THOSE who come to him, he will not cast out. The "those" refers to the ones that the Father has given to the Son to redeem. Verse 39 further backs up this point, where Jesus says that he will lose none of those whom the Father has given him. Answer: The above Gospel passage is very true, keep in mind that this is from the perspective of the second person of the Triune God, not from a human perspective. Since from a human perspective there is no way of knowing who the elect are for sure.

God's Sovereignty does not need our permission. Gen. 20:6; Prov. 21:1; 16:9; Exodus 3:21-22; 12:35-36; 34:23-24; Deut. 2:30; Joshua 11:20; Judges 7:2-3,22; 1 Sam. 14:6,15,20; 2 Sam. 17:14; 1 Kings 12:15; 20:28-29; 2 Chron. 13:14-16; Ezra 1:1,5; 6:22; 7:27; Isa. 45:4-5; Acts 4:27-28; 2 Cor. 8:16-17; Rev. 17:17. As it is also written in (Romans 9:15-21, ESV) 15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. 19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?" 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me like this?" 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?

Awie van staden Romans 8:13, Colossians 3:5 !

@@dandjconsultants8965 Yes your spirit is holy and saved . No sin anymore in the spirit because of bornagain. BUT you need to show God you love Him by living a holy life as far as you can. To make people better is not saving . Or bornagain. Rom 8:9. You can have as much faith as you can but without the Holy Spirit dwelling in you you are lost. Rom 8:9

Awie van staden Very True. A born-again believer will hate sin & live a holy life pleasing to God. Romans 6:12, 1 Peter 1:15&16 !

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC spot on! I am seeing many preachers who are preaching a false dichotomy of flesh and spirit. I find this dangerously close to Gnosticism.

You are a lie😅😅😅 You disbelieve the bible amd spew brainless self righteous propaganda 🙄

This is a typical straw man attack of the Gospel -- and yes, you are not attacking "calvinism" -- you are attacking the central truths of the Gospel. No one is denying the fact that, from a human perspective, it can oftentimes (but not always -- read in Acts about Paul's conversion) appear to be our efforts to understand the gospel and the nature of Christ that lead to our conversion. However, the Bible tells us about what is happening "behind the scenes", as it were. It tells us that, behind the scenes, God is acting in our hearts, regenerating them to enable us to come to Him. God's sovereign will works with the apparent choices of humankind in a mysterious way. Our choices are incredibly important and can have eternal consequences -- but this does not mean that God does not ordain all things. God is God -- and we are merely creatures.

That's the reason why I'm a conditionalist.

The Potter shapes vessels for destruction and vessels for Honor. Who is the clay to question the Potter?

@@LogHewer Thanks paul

@@turkayjohnson5072I would also add: we ALL deserve to go to hell. “The wages of sin is death,” and we are all going to die, therefore we have all sinned/broken God’s law/fallen short of His Grace. However, God mercifully chose to save some of us. He did this by sending His Son to die on the cross for us, that our sin may be given to His Son, and His Son’s righteousness may be given to us, making us righteous and thus deserving of heaven in God’s eyes. So you see (and hopefully I explained it clearly), all of us deserve Hell by our own merit. However, some of us, by Christ’s merit, receive the gift of eternal life with the LORD God Almighty (we do NOT deserve it). I hope this helps!

Hello! Continue reading until verse 13: “born of God.” I believe this refers to being born again, which can only happen if God opens one’s eyes. Before this happens, one cannot understand God or His Will. I hope this helps!

@@valaere891 Thats NOT what that means because one "born of God" CANT sin, which of course WE still sin. Read every conversion in the book of ACTS, save Cornelius, One is directed to "SAVE YOURSELF..." Read acts 2:29-42. This makes it clear,

Romans 8 and 9, Ephesians 1, and a host of other passages disagree with you.

@@countrysidefilms3860 nope. Calvinism is an arrogant, heretical doctrine that makes God the author of evil and takes away all accountability of man for his sin. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Good day.

@@Qui_Gon_Jinn_76 You want to have a friendly conversation about it over the phone sometime?

@@countrysidefilms3860 nothing to discuss my friend. God bless.

@@Qui_Gon_Jinn_76 There's quite a bit to discuss. Many, many fine teachers and Godly men would completely disagree with you. There is, at the very least, room for discussion. ;)

@Phlebas Hee hee. I've done a bit of spontaneous ( and also more detailed) reacting to Calvinists on YT over the years. I like to observe the different presentations of the warped theology, and don't always react, but some times I just must remark! I rejected Calvinism's distinctive doctrines years ago and have had discussions with friends of that persuasion. I often give myself the challenge of formulating answers to them. I believe that God makes all people that they might seek after Him (Acts 17. 26-27), that means that He gives them an ability to seek Him, and is part of their being made in His image. Those who seek find, and some who don't seek have God come seeking them despite that. That does not mean that we can enter into intimate fellowship with God, and so attain perfection, just by willing it. We have to receive God's gift of grace to do that. He makes that grace available to all, and it's our responsibility to choose whether to receive it and cooperate with it so as to attain eternal life. I always give succinct answers, don't I ?

@Phlebas My main issue with it is its assertion that God causes some human beings to come into existence without having any possibility of attaining eternal happiness, ie. of being saved from the fallen condition inherited from Adam. I find it to be a misrepresentation of the character of God, and not true to the Bible, which is full of exhortations to all to seek God and turn to Him, as the Lord Jesus died for all mankind. They argue that all people are incapable of turning to God and it's just that God forces some to do so, yet they say that God punishes people for not turning to Him, for not doing what they are incapable of doing. I have some readings on my channel from the theologian Johann Adam Moehler discussing the Lutheran and Calvinist views of fall, sin, and predestination, compared to the sounder Catholic view which I, as an Anglo Catholic hold. Essentially, God makes each person capable of choosing whether to cooperate with God's grace for salvation. Lutherans and Calvinists tend to deny any human ability to cooperate as if that detracted from God's initiative in salvation, but He has taken the initiative in giving the ability to cooperate.

@Phlebas I think that there are misconceptions regarding God's foreknowledge. I do not think Scripture teaches that each person's choices are all known before they come into existence, That's because God has decreed that each should have the ability to choose. Scripture teaches that God observes people's thoughts and inclinations during their lives to know what's in their hearts to do. It is not all known before that.

so where does our sin nature come from...

If we were born good, how can Jesus’ statement “No one is good but the Father” be true? Additionally, how is it that, if we are good, we are naturally inclined to sin not to do good? For example: a child naturally sins. However, they must be taught to do good.

Our sinful nature is our own doing because of our will. You are given will to choose between good and bad yet you chose bad for your own reason and desire. Your obedience to God is free will yet we chose another. You pay for your immoral action which you did on your own free will not by force, otherwise you committed no sin.

@@diosdadoapias My friend, we are not sinners because we sin; we sin because we are sinners. Because of Adam and Eve, we all became slaves to sin; in other words, sin is our master whom we obey. To do good is against our nature-possible, because of our God-given conscience, but not natural (think about how easy it is to sin compared to how hard it is to do good, like loving one’s enemy). However, when Christ bought us for a ransom, we became slaves to Christ and took on a new nature. As a result, our spirit, given by Jesus, now makes war with our flesh (Paul talks about this), and by God’s grace, we can resist temptation and choose good.