100% the thing that makes Jin hard is that he has everything, and it takes a good player to utilise it. Anyone that tries to downplay the potential with this character is on a copium ventilator.
@crazy911wman Жыл бұрын
When everything is so good and safe on him its not actually hard. Hard is when you risk without big reward
@slasher8091 Жыл бұрын
But his tracking i feel is too strong plus keep out game is perfect and his keep out is insane (that running 2 is very busted almost all characters running 2 is very sidesteppable except his
@dylaroo24 Жыл бұрын
@@slasher8091 Running 2? I’m a Jin main myself (still kinda new so not great) but do you mean demonpaw? That’s a triple forward 2 input, not running. It’s not really something spamable, and it’s -8 on block, so seems pretty counterable, just don’t sidestep. I don’t think a move being unable to sidestep makes it overpowered or anything. Demonpaw is a great move for sure and has helped me get a bit more damage after a big combo plenty of times, but it’s never been the deciding move for me. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve never felt overpowered with Jin.
@dylaroo24 Жыл бұрын
@@slasher8091 So I decide to check out other character’s triple forward 2s, and just Steve alone already seems to be just as good if not better then Jin’s. Steve gets a +9 on block making it perfect to get another combo in after the combo you’ve already done, kinda hard to do that with Jin’s Demonpaw since he launches the enemy so far away and Jin has terrible okizeme, and that’s if the hit lands, if it’s blocked there is a good chance you are being countered if you are facing a good player. Edit 1: Bryan doesn’t have a triple forward 2, but he has a triple forward 3 which like Steve’s is +9 on block as they are both jumping, low crushing attacks.
@slasher8091 Жыл бұрын
@@dylaroo24 bryans 3 is slow and bryans f f moves against a good player are useless since 2 of the are high and the 3 is mid so you can kind of fuzzy it steves is steppable
@RJALEXANDER777 Жыл бұрын
I think Jin in the hands of a good player is pretty terrifying. Most folk just flowchart with him, or pick him to abuse his parry and low sweep (people use it like an unseeable snake edge), and you can figure those people out pretty easily. But those players with good fundamentals? Who can use all his tools effectively? I'm scared to fight those guys haha.
@VillainessAO Жыл бұрын
Nah but you can't cheese and spam with Jin though... That's why most low rank Jin players get smoked, the character has one of the lowest win rates because if you don't know how to play him, there's no energency spam buttons
@ericfreack Жыл бұрын
@@VillainessAO except parry, homing M4, 213, f4 and electrics
@VillainessAO Жыл бұрын
@fallenprogram1770 I bet you played Tekken for like a minute of your life since you don't now what spammable means. Lucky chloe, Hwoarang, Eddy, Katarina, etc. are spammable, not Jin's left punch or whatever you're talking about. That punch can't get the person to win the match on it's own.
@VillainessAO Жыл бұрын
@@ericfreack How are electrics spammable? Do you know the effort it takes to do one? Xbox and PS controllers can barely do it fast enough unless you played the game for years. Also, how can you spam his parry? As for f4, if you can't punish it correctly with a follow up sequence it means nothing, it just eats away at the opponents health like any other move.
@ericfreack Жыл бұрын
@@VillainessAO how to Spam Jin parry: step 1: Mash parry step 2: be unwhiffpunishable congrats you now have a spammable parry
@Puzzl3man Жыл бұрын
"privileged" is so accurate. He has everything.
@ARR409 Жыл бұрын
100% it’s so odd when I see other Jin mains getting angry that he gets certain nerfs when he’s always been a top 10 character since Tekken 7 released. Season 2 he was straight up broken. And now he’s still probably the most well-rounded versatile character in the game. He doesn’t even have a complete match-up nightmare apart from maybe Yoshi.
@mr.leroysmith7012 Жыл бұрын
i mean he is the main character afterall so it make sense.
@gunzero99 Жыл бұрын
Jin is the original OP DLC character before the rest of the OP DLC character came out.
@Alpdude Жыл бұрын
except oki. his oki is garbage. the range on his i10-i15 pokes is also kinda dookie. Can be capitalized on.
@CodenameLavender Жыл бұрын
Privilege is everything!
@the_gratefulgamer Жыл бұрын
"B-But Lil Majin, Jin can't Fly" Lil Majin: "What part of "Privileged" did you guys not understand? lol"
@temjin0014 Жыл бұрын
I play many characters and of them Jin is easily the most versatile. Success with Jin scales very well with knowledge and experience. He gives you very little for free, making him hard on beginners, but rewards greatly after hard work is invested in understanding Tekken and Jin’s tools.
@WrenzyArt Жыл бұрын
Loved this stream! I always like seeing your opinions on other characters and such.
@VillainessAO Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite Tekken players talking about one of my favourite Tekken characters. It's a good day today haha
@henrydimanlig7052 Жыл бұрын
Bro this video is very informative. We need more of this! Love your stream Majin
@SnakeFang Жыл бұрын
Jin's ws12's stance transition is actually bad on hit (+2 with stance, +3 without stance). If you mash ws4 (or whatever your i11 ws move is) after getting hit by ws12 and he stances, it beats out every option except ZEN 1+2 (his fastest option at i13) and it trades with ZEN 1+2. This means no launch from ZEN 1+2. If you play Julia, your ws4 is a launcher if you trade with Jin's ZEN 1+2. Or you can keep it simple and just crouch jab and not trade with anything. Jin is better off doing ws12 with no stance since the frames on the stance are actually worse than no stance. Also, majority of Jin's tools are just vanilla tools that most characters already have and they either do it in a more consistent way or maybe just outright better. Why play Jin when you can just do similar things with similar if not better reward with half the effort and 2x the consistency?
@unkn0wnmortaL9 ай бұрын
Jin feels rewarding tho i started with kazuya
@fie8769 Жыл бұрын
The things chat was pointing out as weaknesses I agree aren't weaknesses. Jin struggles with oki (with the only options being d4, db4 at some angles, f(3,4), and bf21df2's last hit sometimes), and lacks a usable power crush. I find he also can struggle with evasive characters (ling and leo come to mind, where f4 goes OVER their evasive moves pretty often). Yes the power crush is somewhat fast, but it totally resets neutral and is a high. In all, not the worst weaknesses to have.
@d_girl Жыл бұрын
"Jin has no tracking" My dude Jin literally has a tracking magic 4
@tigrisrgn4062 Жыл бұрын
dayum
@MortalDaemons Жыл бұрын
The reason it tracks is because it is 13 frames instead of 11, like strong ☆4. 13 frame tracking ch high sounds great but the reason 11 frame is so important is +1 situations like jab on block etc. It means the move can't be used in the same situations as consistently
@tigrisrgn4062 Жыл бұрын
@@MortalDaemons its true though 13 frames is no magic 4, magic 4 is at worst 12 if you ask me, but its a great move thats for sure, jin is a good character no doubt
@ToshiTado Жыл бұрын
i mean, lee's magic 4 tracks as well but he is no top tier
@Nostromo_TK Жыл бұрын
Not only 92 damage off EWHF but it's also dangerous af to try and move after because obviously it's plus with standing 4 and more counter options. Gets so much pressure off that alone lmao.
@sourcesauce Жыл бұрын
looking foward to more of this if you're planning on it, loving the content man much love. any thoughts on yoshi?
@hydrowolf363 Жыл бұрын
3:50 This was some incredibly good information to me! You should dedicate videos to stuff like that.
@kaoiken5030 Жыл бұрын
hey lil Majin i loved the format of the video! thumbs up , i would love one on Law picked him up 1 and a half years ago , trying to learn Tekken with him and still trying to make him smooth
@ElderGodFist Жыл бұрын
lets go
@lilmajin Жыл бұрын
You're FAST, Elder!
@ElderGodFist Жыл бұрын
@@lilmajin I'm always online & watching bro 👀
@mindofbeasts Жыл бұрын
Standing 4 hit into free electric is mishima 101🤟🏼
@FuryLima Жыл бұрын
Jin is weak to SSR not to SWL as you shown at the start, most of the moves that "tracked" you because you stepped in his strong side are all whiffed moves if you do SSR or SSR duck even that electric and ff2, b2,1 tho is stupidly good on tracking
@qweqweqwadcsc Жыл бұрын
SSR or SWR
@MTR_FURY Жыл бұрын
I'm still watching
@johnnyjawz_tk Жыл бұрын
can you give us your opinion on josie and potential bruce in tekken 8
@ericmotta1 Жыл бұрын
Agree with you 100%, you can't downplay him he's just that good, not broken but overtuned, only thing holding him back is execution that's why he have low winrate online. But if his tools were low execution everyone would be complaining.
@qweqweqwadcsc Жыл бұрын
Not just execution but fundamentals and knowledge The level of knowledge and fundamentals you need to be able to even play this character just decently/a-okay is just exorbitantly high
@eternalblasphemy6526 Жыл бұрын
@@qweqweqwadcsc Look who we have here, a downplaying Jim main. :)
@1AdA-Greats Жыл бұрын
@@eternalblasphemy6526naw he’s just accurate
@BboySquidfoot Жыл бұрын
Your face when "electric" LMAOOOO
@steinericholter8633 Жыл бұрын
Hey majin! Great breakdown but he can actually Get something from parrying a jab, his parry makes moves count as wiffed and a jab has 17f wiff recovery
@SolidMGSnake Жыл бұрын
Man I cant wait to see more Jin in Tekken 8. Hes a my faav
@HyperFangz_YT Жыл бұрын
If there's one thing Jin is good at its screwing over Gigas bc his parry COMPLETELY shuts down Gigas offense
@smugaladdin8372 Жыл бұрын
20:30 hell sweep bf 21 rage art works too and does 2 or so more damage
@Furionic696 Жыл бұрын
Majin you show off partway through the video that at +8 Jin will still connect certain moves which leads me to ask is this not supposed to be the case? Generally a lot of information online says that you should treat being anything above -6 as too risky to step, is this information incorrect or does it depend on the situation more heavily than the frame adv/disadv?
@FuryLima Жыл бұрын
That's how it works, and also that's applicable for every character Like at +8 Jin can easily tracks with slower moves like df4 shown on the video, but in this case you can mash out, and most of the time you'll be able to mash out on Jin's frames, he's top 15-20 imo and versatile, and so good in a hands of a strong player, but tbh Jin's toolkit has everything, except that all of his tools are parts also of other characters, and on Jin's side they're worth versions of what other characters have
@asheeshtripathi6108 Жыл бұрын
Range is a little problem especially while punishing other moves. And if you can't do 15 frames or lower electrics the forget punishment.
@abellizarraga7002 Жыл бұрын
As a Jin main this video got me to Sub I've never seen a video explain Jin so well... Give me a way to give you my money(I wear the same thing every day so I don't buy merch)
@GFUexe Жыл бұрын
Well buy the merch but don’t wear it lol
@Black_Aces Жыл бұрын
He streams on twitch you can donate there
@powerovervanity Жыл бұрын
click the super chat button right here on youtube
@OverlordDurash Жыл бұрын
Anyone got a past broadcast link to check his bryan overview he mentioned?
@veggieeater763 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcCBdNZmzLy7pmw.html 57:00
@veggieeater763 Жыл бұрын
He forgot northern cross doe I think lol
@twizzy7529 Жыл бұрын
Jin is legit one of the best characters in the game if not the best, idk why people downplay him like he doesn’t beat the whole cast (idk about akuma though)
@qweqweqwadcsc Жыл бұрын
Most are just coping anyways because they cannot put in and realize the insane amount of work and fundamentals you need to have to at least make this character work
@chinogambino9375 Жыл бұрын
S tier but even the pros like Atif who main him won't use him at tournament. Even Book broke his dry spell playing Leroy.
@evanallison8063 Жыл бұрын
With Jin F4+2 I’ve caught somebody sidestepping and still hit him when he was behind me.
@RazorIsEpic Жыл бұрын
Was there a section for Dragunov?
@DivineGuidance1122 Жыл бұрын
Dragunov is still op, he just lacks good mids 😂😂.
@qweqweqwadcsc Жыл бұрын
@@DivineGuidance1122 Nah, average character at best He can only be A Tier absolute maximum now The existence of DLC characters with ridiculous crushing abilities and movement (e.g. Zafina, Kuni) , his garbage hitbox mids and the nerf to his wr2 are just too much of a mountain climb for Dragunov to be "OP"
@DivineGuidance1122 Жыл бұрын
@@qweqweqwadcsc That was a sarcastic response bro 😝. A character with shite mids can never be considered good in this game.
@garcia713281 Жыл бұрын
I’m Enjoying the Jin Series 🔥🔥🔥
@YungKuroKami Жыл бұрын
Jin is absolutely an S tier character, top 10-15 character in the game. His toolkit is bonkers
@Fac0999 Жыл бұрын
Ok unless your good at execution and movement jins only ok he doesn't have a move you have to watch out for besides pokes un like most characters with gimmicks like devil jin king and Paul if you mess up half of your life is gone and can carry you half way through rank like devil jin did me lolol
@superblack898 Жыл бұрын
it is insane to me that 6 years later still underplay this character lmao... so insanely broken, and I play him
@MrShinTensei Жыл бұрын
He's really fucking good haha
@BakedConjurer5 Жыл бұрын
underplayed cause hes hard and everyone online in mid to low ranks has the worst win rate
@kiweeltyler3586 Жыл бұрын
You play him and are saying he’s broken? I wish he was broken, that way he could carry me. If you play him long enough you’ll see why I’m saying he’s definitely not.
@abellizarraga7002 Жыл бұрын
@@kiweeltyler3586 Bin playing Jin since Tekken 3 and the new Jin in 4 ... this iteration of Jin is busted af (landing Electric Consistently and High execution Aside) He has all the tools, Very unforgiving if your not on point tho.
@KeithKillingly Жыл бұрын
no you dont
@majorkarnage8912 Жыл бұрын
As a jin main, I want you to try to rank up jin so bad. Tryna see your execution on a character u barely touch
@juliocesar2397 Жыл бұрын
Jin Kazama is my Favorite Character.
@champloo90584 ай бұрын
An expert level character reduced to a nearly braindead
@crankyhead1089 Жыл бұрын
i was wondering for a long time why Jin have one of the worst winrates in the game, since he was such a top tier character. But since then i've learned that what makes Jin hard to play is that you need to learn ALL aspects of that character in order to the most out of him. He has a move for every weakness of his, and the most optimized strength of him is locked behind an execution barrier. I honestly believe he is one of the more balanced characters in Tekken 7
@prince223681 Жыл бұрын
I love this new honest opinion series Would you do one for Lili and Nina? 😀 People usually complain about the 2 characters but i personally don't think they're very strong
@Ev3rmore Жыл бұрын
People complain about those? Wha…? 😭
@putralumoindong2017 Жыл бұрын
broo can you handcam please?
@hypnotoad1390 Жыл бұрын
If you don't count the situational combo of 2ds in season 4 Jin was the best character with Feng
@thephantazm5139 Жыл бұрын
You did sidestep towards his strong side the whole video but i think he is fine. His 10f is strong but wont punish a lot of -10f moves due to poor range thoigh his range is a weakness which i am fine with to give him some identity
@Jjjeolvaani5590 Жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian, a big fan of tekken and a big fan of the magnificent fights you do with king, and I wanted to know lil majin, are you going to leave king aside? and is transitioning to a new character that you're going to use in the jin kazama case?. And if so, are you going to use jin kazama in competitive? answer my question please. a hug from your fan
@lilmajin Жыл бұрын
No. Just. No.
@Jjjeolvaani5590 Жыл бұрын
Got it, thank you so much lil majin for answering my question
@ItzMilla Жыл бұрын
I’m new to tekken and I main Jin and I’m finding him super difficult, I feel like as a new player Jin is one of the worst characters in the game, I think his win to loose ratio proves that, I’m not going to give up on him tho as I enjoy playing him
@TRDcooljay Жыл бұрын
Nice !!!!!
@thememelords9491 Жыл бұрын
his weakness is the player using him being bad lmao (like every other character, but most others have other weaknesses)
@TheKing-po3jf Жыл бұрын
I gotta join stream n tell him do a JosieEee
@egmusic1925 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, hellsweep to rage art must be off axis
@Tundric_Schwolf Жыл бұрын
Privileged describes it perfectly. Doesn't help that he's significantly less stressful to maintain than other mishima's.
@jclarke90 Жыл бұрын
In summary : If you can’t make Jin work , You’re Just going to have to accept the fact that you’re just not that Nigga . Give it up lmao 🤣
@iworry-cz5155 Жыл бұрын
Eventhou this all may be true, if i pick any easy character ill have better succes with them in a week than with jin in 7 years and thats simply a fact, no clue why
@frankjaeger1711 Жыл бұрын
Jin seems to be an enigma for most people. Some either say he’s broken, others say he needs buffs. Jin is great on paper, but executing his moves and set ups is a lot harder than most other characters. Idk what it is, but I even though this supposed broken character is this strong, a lot of top pro players are dropping him for someone else and I don’t remember any players ever winning with jin. Only very few people I’ve seen use Jin to his full potential. Devilster and ryuk leonidas are the strongest Jin players I’ve ever seen, devilster literally being the most optimized Jin. I can’t wait to see him in tournaments if he ever participates. The world needs to see what a god Jin can do.
@iworry-cz5155 Жыл бұрын
@@frankjaeger1711 exactly, as strong as he is supposed to be, no one ever won anything with him, i dont say he needs buffs... for me its as simple as a good df1 poke, all other characters i play havae good hitbox on df1 but jin, and thats my struggle i guess..
@1AdA-Greats Жыл бұрын
@@frankjaeger1711 a lot of people don’t realize that
@Seatek_Ark Жыл бұрын
I think Jin is the most nerfed OG char in tekken 7 right? Still top 10~ and he's absolutely incredible.
@slippers8000 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Kazumi? But ye been a Jin main since tag 1. I'd say around top 5.
@dreday6320 Жыл бұрын
Keeping it real on the Jin downplayers 💪🏾😂. Jin is very privileged
@thealldayspecial Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest farces and misconceptions is the Mishimas "have no range, stubby t.rex arms Jin, need to risk so much" etc, when they can keep so many combos alive and do a whole mess of mixups etc at the fringes of their hurtbox. It don't matter if they don't have some long Armor King toe poke low when they can catch a person who goofed from not terribly far out. I'm glad Majin pointed out how Jin physically moves with certain things and it eats a lot of distance. None of the Mishima characters are bad and their weaknesses can be pretty much be mended or non issue by mastery on the individual. It's scary as hell playing them when you *don't* know what they're going to pull.
@forcebrand4678 Жыл бұрын
If he's THAT good, how come is he so underused by the pros? Who actually mains Jin? Book and CBM? That's it? And even they are kinda on the fence about him, hasn't CBM picked up Noctis?
@slippers8000 Жыл бұрын
Probably consistency, pros generally enjoy an easier/cheaper playstyle. Too much effort to constantly adjust with Jin during a long tournament run. Compared to someone like Zafina or Marduk.
@joshjones9749 Жыл бұрын
I think Jin is even underutilized by the pros. When alot of guys use him there it seems like they weren't quite prepared to take him to the big stage and I'm not sure why. He has the tools to win anywhere.
@VillainessAO Жыл бұрын
Just watch Book, Cherryberrymango, Devilster, etc....they utilise him very well
@frankjaeger1711 Жыл бұрын
@@VillainessAO Devilster with the most optimized Jin and a ridiculously good player for sure. Him and ryuk leonidas are the best jins I’ve ever seen. Unfortunately they haven’t been in a tournament yet. At least not a big official tournament. Book is good, cbm is great, ryuk and devilster are gods. They just haven’t had the opportunity to show the world what they’re capable of.
@joshjones9749 Жыл бұрын
@@VillainessAO I said he's underutilized and the names you gave prove my point. That's pretty much everyone who makes serious runs with Jin in the pros. That's not even counting Devilster who hasn't even really made his mark on the pro scene yet. Even Atif Butt, one of the best in the world at the game and one of the best Jins on top of that...doesn't use the character all that much when it counts.
@chinogambino9375 Жыл бұрын
@@joshjones9749 You can see it from the best Jin players, CBM, Book, Daniel Mado; in long tournament days the stress affects execution much harder on Jin. They stop using EWHF on while standing 2 punish or drop EWHF punish on side step.
@joshjones9749 Жыл бұрын
@@chinogambino9375 That's a good point. As good as Jin is he does require execution to be that good.
@sharkaholic2171 Жыл бұрын
Jin main here best way to counter jin is to make him rely on his pokes as his pokes are more linear jin is an all around character his problem isn’t range or tracking and his pokes aren’t bad but they are the weakest part of his kit Basically make jin rely on pokes and then step and play accordingly
@GThunder_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Jin lacks good lows, in high level his hellsweep is very reactable, d4 is -13 his db4 is predictable in certain range. The general gameplan is just don't duck. Jin mains don't realize this tho and comes up with bad arguments for the character. Most of the dlcs or other characters in the game can just cheese him out that's why he relies heavily on fundamentals and matchup knowledge compared to other characters.
@Allocution_TK Жыл бұрын
d4 is -12 not -13
@Bloom_HD Жыл бұрын
I love reading about how reactable his hellsweep is then never seeing anyone react block it. Even Arslan ash who claims that eats 3 in a row Vs Atif butt in his recent tournament. It is not reactable. Let alone "very", whatever that means. d4 is -12. Least you can do is know the character you downplay. Predictability is a fault of the player, not the character. Jin doesn't automatically do db4 at certain ranges whatever that means anyway. just don't duck. He only has a hellsweep, a +on hit power low and +5 on block normal hit launching highs
@jeetkundough6224 Жыл бұрын
💪🦁👍
@qweqweqwadcsc Жыл бұрын
Too difficult of a character to play extremely well, you just need to be talented at Tekken to even just play this character a-okay
@predator97ashsingh13 Жыл бұрын
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@3NarutoRasengan Жыл бұрын
Jin's ff3 has terrible range. His standing 4 does whiff sometimes, u do one step back and he will whiff standing 4. Sure he's good, but he's not perfect he does have his flaws
@kaoiken5030 Жыл бұрын
the 95% of the cast's standing 4 will whiff if you are not at range 0 tho.
@HyperFangz_YT Жыл бұрын
Jins standing 4 has great range imo. It also launches on CH making it good for setting up frame traps
@ericfreack Жыл бұрын
@@kaoiken5030 yeah and theirs also have Shit tracking instead of being literally homing
@josephquezada6138 Жыл бұрын
@@ericfreack plus a billion on normal hit also
@Niforse Жыл бұрын
If anything, his overtuned moves in every category make him far easier to play than alot of characters, because youre simply just rewarded more for doing anything at all -Punishment? yeah everything knocks down and wallsplats dw you dont have to deal with the opponent doing anything, you get an oki situation nomatter what -Offense? yeah your 50/50 is insane and everything is plus or a CH launch dw about using the wrong mid, its basically a homing mid CH launch with stance transitions/guaranteed checks or plus frames to work with -Oki? yeah your ff4 is plus if its blocked meaty and it hits grounded, and it knocks down into the same situation, yeah you have a hellsweep that relaunches techrolls, or a ff3 because yes -Knowledge Checks? yeah you have plenty of moves to seriously confuse newer players, and bunga simply doesnt work back because your parry is basically Leroys but with even better reward and even less risk -Defense? on that parry, its an OS to so many things its unbelievable, and its not a Yoshi flash either, this shit is consistently a get out of jail free card to any highs and mids -Execution? yeah dw the easy stuff is still really strong and you dont have to go for electrics to get good damage, nor do you need electrics as a big part of your gameplan when you have a movelist full of one-button alternatives thatll do just fine like no matter WHAT you do, you dont have to ever worry, you have a move to cover that. If you can think it, you can do it. And before anyone says "but thats difficult! theres so many moves to choose from that it becomes hard to decide the perfect one for every situation!" again with the whole "theres no wrong mid to mix up with", theres almost no BAD move for any situation you find yourself in either, and Jin actually has one of the smallest movesets in the game at ~78. Thats less moves than Noctis, less than Gigas, and under half that of trick characters like Yoshi Ling and Lei, so how do you think THOSE characters feel with there actually weak moves to compensate, when they RELY on knowledge checks to get by, and lack the tools to actually play tekken? (if i got anything genuinely really wrong in this long ass rant do feel free to correct me, this is a matchup i struggle with so literally any feedback is super appreciated!)
@vikhilsingh2929 Жыл бұрын
Bro it's electric don't track 🤣 it tracks only one side
@Nico-tz7ut Жыл бұрын
jin is an overrated character, he has bad frames,bad oki, tracking and bad reach on some core moves and is probably the hardest character to play in this game. He looks way better on paper, in reality he is strong but far from broken. Theres a reason he has the lowest online winrate in teh gaem.
@jaywalker3553 Жыл бұрын
Jin is busted and OP he has everything I mean every move under the sun dude he has crazy poking a stupid hop kick and parry and great mixups and crazy wall carry and combo damage 😤😤😤
@rurounijay7100 Жыл бұрын
Jin main here, he is absolutely busted, top 5 in the game busted. The only things he struggles with are his reach, which is booty, a lot of his moves have awful range, and he suffers from being so good that it can be hard to utilize him. When a character has everything and a move for every single situation he can be difficult to play correctly. Theres way more that goes into mastering this character than a vast majority. Despite the crying range is an issue, a lot of his moves whiff a LOT. Hes still busted and most moves have fine range, but there are a lot of important moves with sus range. His homing is op, he has peak movement, evasiveness, defense, and pressure, hes almost perfect.
@egmusic1925 Жыл бұрын
“Do a negative 14 frame low agains Jin, see what happens” 💀💀💀 Bro didn’t even mention db223
@Allocution_TK Жыл бұрын
Because db2,2,3 is ass. Block the first two, sidewalk Left and if he does the third hit then you're at his back and you just kill him for free. Why ever use db2,2,3 when f4 does a better job of the same thing?
@egmusic1925 Жыл бұрын
@@Allocution_TK because db223 is a great combo ender
@Allocution_TK Жыл бұрын
@@egmusic1925 For no wall combos that's just blatantly false. Terrible combo ender. For the wall combo, it still isn't his best wall combo. bf2,1,df2 is his highest damaging wall combo that is absolutely guaranteed on every character. On the big characters (Bears, Jack, Gigas, Fahkumram, Marduk) Jin can get 1,2,3 / d3+4 as a wall combo, however that can be escaped by pressing U at a very specific time. Anakin does it pretty consistently. The bears are the only ones that cannot escape it.
@nicholasboodhoo1675 Жыл бұрын
Jin is s tier
@logan123799 Жыл бұрын
Protagonist his need tô be strong
@DaggerPrince Жыл бұрын
you could literally break down Any character like this and make them sound OP. even the most bottom tiers. kinda sad a pro player is being dishonest.
@1AdA-Greats Жыл бұрын
That’s very true
@crazy911wman Жыл бұрын
*Any top tier character
@iworry-cz5155 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the whole cast is to tier and u should ever consider online conditions, that makes normal moves busted
@VillainessAO Жыл бұрын
The title literally says "Opinion" lmao chill
@frankjaeger1711 Жыл бұрын
Well Jin is a great character, he’s just hard to master. Yeah I notice how lil majin constantly throws shade at jin and Jin players. Unfortunately not many people have utilized jin’s full potential. Devilster and ryuk leonidas the most optimized Jins you will ever see. Yes I know of book, cbm and a few others who have great jins, but still are not on the level of Devilster. Unfortunately they’re not official offline pros since they haven’t had the opportunity to participate in tournaments yet, but hopefully one day before tekken 8 comes out.
@nerassmallerchannel5619 Жыл бұрын
Jin mains when they get called out for having everything always go for the "but it's hard to use everything" buddy, you have them, if you have access to those moves and proceed to moan about it, you're either not playing to be optimal or you're nitpicking for the sake of pretending like you have to absolute worst time playing.
@DaggerPrince Жыл бұрын
Majin mentioning all of Jins tools and pretending other characters dont have them or better ones. Looks like hes still salty about older tekkens. Thought ud grow up. lol
@jasonkennedy6844 Жыл бұрын
Most don't. Go look at Eddy or Larsu.
@veggieeater763 Жыл бұрын
He actually believes all Characters are good. Besides the pandas
@veggieeater763 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonkennedy6844 He supports Eddys and Lars doe. He actually said on this same stream don’t let no one tell you Eddy ain’t good. As Eddy mains have won the most tournaments.
@jaxonlitherland8732 Жыл бұрын
Really hit a nerve with you didn't he lol
@UltimateBallaPOM Жыл бұрын
You come off as extremely hurt.
@luisinallcaps5100 Жыл бұрын
Vs Jin? Just pick an infinite stage 😈
@Allocution_TK Жыл бұрын
As a Jin main, i prefer infinite stages vs a few characters.
@luisinallcaps5100 Жыл бұрын
@@Allocution_TK yeah honestly it depends on the character. As a king main I would take an infinite stage over a floor break if I’m fighting jin any day of the week
@luisinallcaps5100 Жыл бұрын
@@Allocution_TK im just saying the damage jin does on stages with walls is crazy. without walls he has to try harder
@Allocution_TK Жыл бұрын
@luisinallcaps5100 Hard disagree. His wall combo damage is average (22 after wall splat) You'll work harder on an infinite stage vs Jin because his regular combo damage is above average, and he has pretty good keepout.
@luisinallcaps5100 Жыл бұрын
@@Allocution_TK I still like the match up better on an infinite.
@agnosticmanquestionsall2409 Жыл бұрын
I find him not so interesting as a character. His design is a boring toned down devil jin