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JLA/Avengers, Part 1 - Atop the Fourth Wall

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Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this Patreon-sponsored episode, Linkara looks at the massive Marvel and DC crossover between their premiere super-teams!
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Originally released January 22nd, 2018.
ORIGINAL INFO: Proving that the real way to heal the division between Marvel and DC is with a luau.

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@jasonfrancese8359
@jasonfrancese8359 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to point out that 5 seconds after Wally West arrived in the Marvel Earth, his first instinct is to protect the kid being chased. No idea why, but knows that he needs to help someone innocent.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 3 ай бұрын
That is another reason why I love Wally. He is a true hero.
@MegaManDBZX
@MegaManDBZX 6 жыл бұрын
So, what I'm getting from this is that most of Superman's dialogue in this is "Everything is better on MY Earth!".
@MetalMadness_00
@MetalMadness_00 6 жыл бұрын
MegaManDBZX imagine Supes seeing what did in Secret Empire
@MetalMadness_00
@MetalMadness_00 6 жыл бұрын
Zyle Rayner but then again The new 52 was now the Watchmen universe where superheroes are assholes feared by humans
@jakejutras2733
@jakejutras2733 6 жыл бұрын
MegaManDBZX my god man.... Your name....
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 6 жыл бұрын
@ Mark Galan: There must have been some spillage between the two universes
@MegaManDBZX
@MegaManDBZX 6 жыл бұрын
What about my name?
@wingedhussar8552
@wingedhussar8552 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious how Cap decides that the DCU must be a dystopian hellhole just because the citizens are actually grateful towards the heroes. Says something about the citizens in Marvel I guess. Also, Supes has no room to talk down to the Avengers about trying hard enough to protect people considering how often cities, countries, and even the timeline itself gets destroyed in DC.
@hitomisalazar4073
@hitomisalazar4073 2 күн бұрын
I always figured it was because of figures like Doctor Doom. Who's people love him and build statues to him and such like that. And is an out and out villain really to everyone not Latverian. Not a lot of Marvel Heroes getting like "The Fantastic Four Museum" opened in their honor. Unlike in the MCU where they had things like a Captain America Museum scene and such. While Superman's point make sense when you think of things like "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" where his entire point is that with their abilities and cleverness and determination DC heroes don't have to result to brutal retribution and "Avenging". That they can save the day with minimal harm. Or as Justice League Unlimited showed off in Patriot Act (Great Episode), the DC Heroes put saving civilians over fighting General Eiling over and over. Because that's what heroes do there. Which... isn't necessarily the case in Marvel.
@RhyperiorRanger
@RhyperiorRanger 6 жыл бұрын
“Darkseid has the infinity gauntlet” That is one the coolest things I’ve ever heard
@TheDarkNeonHero
@TheDarkNeonHero 6 жыл бұрын
I literally shouted to my screen "OH SH*T!!" but i guess he doesn't get his day with the glory of the answer to his anti-life equation....maybe someday.
@DarknessIsTheTruth
@DarknessIsTheTruth 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the answer is 42.
@MarcellusMagnus
@MarcellusMagnus 6 жыл бұрын
That's a "pants to be darkened" moment if there ever was one.
@movieman2293
@movieman2293 6 жыл бұрын
MarcellusMagnus That’s SEATS to be darkened
@amytanner4931
@amytanner4931 5 жыл бұрын
Just think of what could happen if he boom-tubed to the marvel universe!
@JohnnyElRed
@JohnnyElRed 6 жыл бұрын
"Yeah. Mr. Perez? We want you to draw a mural with every character. No, not every character from Marvel and DC. Every character in ficiton ever created. I know is... Hello? Mr. Perez?" *2 days later* "I-I don't know what happened. He was talking on the phone, and the next thing I know, he is yelling of euphoria, and then I found him dead on the floor with a smile on his face. Did you know happiness could provoque heart attacks?"
@JTeenmining
@JTeenmining 6 жыл бұрын
One of the funniest comments I've seen
@kamenfann8880
@kamenfann8880 6 жыл бұрын
if you gotta go, go with a smile;)
@RubberyCat
@RubberyCat 6 жыл бұрын
....Do you have ANY IDEA how many "Every character in fiction ever created" is? Frankly, i doubt you have even _HEARD_ of "Zenith", for instance, and its multiversal grand storyline that included an immense amount of obscure superheroes from generally unknown titles, and this is just still superheroes we're talking about here, not secondary or background characters.
@vcom741
@vcom741 6 жыл бұрын
There is also everyone in LotR...everyone in GoT...every single Pokemon, Digimon, Monster Rancher Monster, every One Piece character, Every Naruto character, every Doctor Who character...you get the idea.
@MrSafior
@MrSafior 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the création outside the US and Japan.
@samuelmeyer1024
@samuelmeyer1024 6 жыл бұрын
"You think this 'S' on My chest stands for France!?"- Superman
@darthgriffin7741
@darthgriffin7741 5 жыл бұрын
Samuel Meyer ultimate Captain America is a douche.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 5 жыл бұрын
Why did people like “the ultimates” again?
@ajnapalm
@ajnapalm 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the S was for the Sentinel that's demolishing Cerebro. So don't let him in the Danger Room.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 5 жыл бұрын
Darth Griffin As well as civil war cap.
@christiancrusader9374
@christiancrusader9374 4 жыл бұрын
@@ajnapalm it'sjustsomerandomguy fan, huh?
@AnEndlessStrategy
@AnEndlessStrategy 6 жыл бұрын
Superman: Those problems are over there! And we need to do something! Batman: Should we do something?
@mitchfletcher2386
@mitchfletcher2386 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder Woman: We should DO something!!
@barleysixseventwo6665
@barleysixseventwo6665 5 жыл бұрын
I’m Ray Palmer! Welcome to doing something!
@stevenstice6683
@stevenstice6683 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, our Great Disaster stopping friend Ray Palmer.
@TheMamaluigi300
@TheMamaluigi300 3 жыл бұрын
Who does the somethings?
@matthewmckee3762
@matthewmckee3762 3 жыл бұрын
The question is, who watches the people doing something?
@CapnJigglypuff
@CapnJigglypuff 6 жыл бұрын
Superman: "Everything is better on MY Earth!"
@Awesome_Pichu
@Awesome_Pichu 6 жыл бұрын
Superman: "I'm gonna kill you to death!"
@leotamer5
@leotamer5 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Marvel Universe is pretty messed up.
@nemesis3587
@nemesis3587 6 жыл бұрын
He already sensed Captain Hydra.
@dandydoodle4456
@dandydoodle4456 6 жыл бұрын
leotamer5 remember that time the blob ate the wasp? Tastes like chicken
@lavagolem4832
@lavagolem4832 6 жыл бұрын
what a wasted oportunity of linkara
@crimsonking440
@crimsonking440 5 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of cap and Superman both shouting "we should DO something!" at their teams and both sides just being like what is even happening.
@neoforrester4401
@neoforrester4401 2 жыл бұрын
But should they DO something?
@matthewmckee3762
@matthewmckee3762 2 жыл бұрын
They should DO something!
@ZoanBlade90
@ZoanBlade90 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmckee3762 *Should* they do something?
@neoforrester4401
@neoforrester4401 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZoanBlade90 Bang!
@wikiuser92
@wikiuser92 Жыл бұрын
They should DO something!
@griffindor65
@griffindor65 6 жыл бұрын
Me going thru this vid: "Huh, this seems like a pretty cool comic, I might have to pick this up at some point-" "We cut to Apokolips, where Darkseid has the Infinity Gauntlet." "I NEED THIS COMIC IN MY HANDS YESTERDAY."
@dprototype6431
@dprototype6431 6 жыл бұрын
"I don't need it. I don't need it. I definitely don't need it."
@FixTheWi-Fi
@FixTheWi-Fi 6 жыл бұрын
D Prototype IIII NEEEEED IIIIIIT!
@TheBestComicKing
@TheBestComicKing 5 жыл бұрын
Egh, my response was “SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!”
@skibobshipoddlypop
@skibobshipoddlypop 3 жыл бұрын
It's of course cool that he might use it. Him throwing it to the dirt like literal garage is five thousand times better. He can't even be bothered to attempt to unlock it, and if it's not actively serving his purposes, it's less than nothing and any stranger who wants to pick it up is more than welcome
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden Жыл бұрын
*possess a copy* My precious 🤤
@myriadmediamusings
@myriadmediamusings 2 жыл бұрын
Calling all viewers! As of 2/16/2022, its been announced that in March, JLA/Avengers will be back for a limited stock, and all proceeds will go to the family of George Perez!
@neoforrester4401
@neoforrester4401 2 жыл бұрын
And that pisses me off somewhere fierce 'cause I'm completely aware that I'm never gonna be able to nab a copy for myself.
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 2 жыл бұрын
I'm all for giving to a good artist family...but I already have a copy
@brucesnow7125
@brucesnow7125 6 жыл бұрын
I love that moment between Cap and Bats. Both are brilliant strategists and as always do something smart instead of punching each other.
@perce1veALL
@perce1veALL 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's actually fitting that they were the first ones to figure out the behind the scene scheme.
@TheHeroOfTomorrow
@TheHeroOfTomorrow 6 жыл бұрын
I guess Uatu watches the Watchmen (and probably monitors the Monitors.)
@RubberyCat
@RubberyCat 6 жыл бұрын
* literal lol * * Laughs out loud *
@DeisFortuna
@DeisFortuna 6 жыл бұрын
B U T W H O M A K E S S U R E H E D O E S H I S J O B ?
@jagarcia0705
@jagarcia0705 6 жыл бұрын
*Monitor #1:* We should do something. *Monitor #2:* Should we do something? *Monitor #3:* Maybe we should do something.
@amytanner4931
@amytanner4931 5 жыл бұрын
@@jagarcia0705 FUCKING DO SOMETHING ALREADY! GOD!
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 4 жыл бұрын
Who darksides the darksied?
@martianmanfrommars8428
@martianmanfrommars8428 6 жыл бұрын
Captain America: "People actually LIKE them in this universe? That obviously means their fascists bent on controlling the populous!" Superman: "THINGS ARE SAD ON YOUR EARTH SO THAT MAKES YOU BAD HEROES!" (AKA literally what happened in Infinite Crisis)
@perce1veALL
@perce1veALL 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, Captain America's viewpoints kind of makes sense considering that fascists were looked upon in their country, prayed to like gods. And if i'm going to be honest, heroes being idolized does kind bend a question if you've read the Boys comics.
@tylerleach1833
@tylerleach1833 3 жыл бұрын
@@perce1veALL dude, nobody should read The Boys.
@luckystriker842
@luckystriker842 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerleach1833 TV series is great, though.
@adrianrocha6844
@adrianrocha6844 3 жыл бұрын
@@perce1veALL another thing if Superman thinks the marvel heroes are bad because of some of the destruction that they don’t stop he has no right to talk shit since one of his team members lives in a city where crime is so bad it’s gone to the point of get all the innocent people out leave everyone else there and nuke the city this is why I like marvel more than dc
@bladewolflq-84i86
@bladewolflq-84i86 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianrocha6844 That only means Batman is a shit hero doing a shit job, even his prodigial son Nightwing made little progress in Bludhaven before being blow up. All other DC cities like Metropolis, Central City are mostly decent place to live.
@criticalwolf1
@criticalwolf1 2 жыл бұрын
16:38 news report: "wonder woman visited sick children and is helping the world health organization" Captain America: "that bitch"
@SiRenfield
@SiRenfield 4 жыл бұрын
Also unintentionally hilarious in hindsight considering how a lot of Marvel fanboys perceive DC as “edgy on purpose” while DC fanboys perceive Marvel as “silly and childish”, but in this book their positions on the optimism to cynicism scale are the opposite. Possibly showing the difference in creative directions over the course of a decade?
@Alucard-A-La-Carte
@Alucard-A-La-Carte 6 жыл бұрын
The modern irony of the Marvel U being written as the "grimdark, gritty" universe is delicious.
@ZatchZXman
@ZatchZXman 2 жыл бұрын
It kinda is. MCU just has glitter
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
@@ZatchZXman Debatable, but I definitely get why you think so.
@dylansharp8471
@dylansharp8471 6 ай бұрын
@@daelen.cclark Come again?
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 3 ай бұрын
@@dylansharp8471 That the MCU is grim with glitter. I don’t fully get it but I still get it.
@cherry-cj9iq
@cherry-cj9iq 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the pissing match between DC and Marvel was… y'know, fandom stuff, instead of actual editorial stuff. That surprises me a lot, actually; these guys really know they could just… get more money if they were amiable and worked together from time to time, right? The comic industry does weird things sometimes. Still, this is a REALLY fun crossover from what I heard so far! I enjoyed the interactions between the heroes, you can see why the characters were distrustful and weirded out at first… and NGL, when I think of heroes talking things out I would not have pointed to Cap. and Batman and gone "yeah, those two, they are the ones who are gonna sort it out together". Like, really. …Very unexpected. Another commented called it, but Superman did sound a lot like Superboy "EVERYTHING WAS BETTER ON M Y EARTH!" Prime, though this actually makes sense and is far less annoying. He should take notes on how to not be insufferable. …My favorite moment is Batman and Captain America bonding over their lost partners though. I started enjoying the DCU before getting into comics as a Robin fan, I started the comics as a Robin fan, and it stands the same to this day goddamnit >:"(
@WaitWhat-zw2in
@WaitWhat-zw2in 9 ай бұрын
A few years ago Marvel literally told comic book stores that they could send them photos of them ripping up DC's newest event comics in exchange for getting new variant covers. These two aren't rivals like they once were, they are now bitter enemies
@Batman43221
@Batman43221 6 ай бұрын
​@@WaitWhat-zw2inNot anymore.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 3 ай бұрын
I always thought that was Disney/Warner legal disagreements. Y’know, corporate greed & all that.
@kadindarklord
@kadindarklord 6 жыл бұрын
Darkseid with the Infinity Gauntlet. ... That's bad. That's very bad.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 6 жыл бұрын
kadindarklord Bad, but incredibly awesome!
@skibobshipoddlypop
@skibobshipoddlypop 3 жыл бұрын
And once he can't immediately use it to his own ends, he just tosses it like it's a banana peel. He can't even just keep it as a glove, right on the ground
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 2 жыл бұрын
We dead.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 5 жыл бұрын
George Perez’s version of heaven: drawing every character that ever existed, and will ever exist! (With infinite pay.)
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden Жыл бұрын
Hope he’s enjoying paradise
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
@@redrasegarden I’m hope he is. May he Rest In Peace.
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden Жыл бұрын
@@daelen.cclark 🥲
@dakotadoyle7573
@dakotadoyle7573 5 жыл бұрын
You just know that Darksied would have used the Infinity Gauntlet to make the comfiest lazyboy in existence
@fernando2236
@fernando2236 2 жыл бұрын
And probably use it to help him solve his little math equation
@Grim_Sister
@Grim_Sister 6 жыл бұрын
"Where Darkseid has the infinity goblet." Pants be darkened... "It is not affective." Well, dodged that bullet
@TF2Fan101
@TF2Fan101 4 жыл бұрын
Darkseid used Infinity Gauntlet! It's not very effective...
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 2 жыл бұрын
More like”pants to be Ebbind”
@matthewgagnon9426
@matthewgagnon9426 2 жыл бұрын
Captain America just going off the deep end about how people treat the DC heroes well is hysterical. It's just 0 to 100 with him, he sees Wonder Woman in a childrens hospital and immediately assumes they're all fascist dictators.
@SMAXZO
@SMAXZO 6 жыл бұрын
....You want to know what's funny? JLA/Avengers is canon because the story of Krona was then followed up in Trinity..and they sorta sneaked in a silhouette of Cap in (which they can get away with since it also sorta looked like the Flash from the back)
@Talowolf
@Talowolf 6 жыл бұрын
There was only one DC vs Marvel battle I cared about in this mini. Wonder Women's big perm hair vs Scarlet Witch's big perm hair.
@AussieDragoon
@AussieDragoon 6 жыл бұрын
The battle of "George Perez's weird obsession with giant curly hair on those 2 in particular, despite no other artists drawing it that way"...we may need a more concise title
@DarsiPadilla
@DarsiPadilla 5 жыл бұрын
If only he illustrated a promo art for Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Phantom of the Opera", he'd definitely make Christine Daae's hair even more fabulous than before.
@gentlemanlygeeky4088
@gentlemanlygeeky4088 3 жыл бұрын
@@AussieDragoon How does "Perm Battle" sound?
@sineado.mcdevitt4353
@sineado.mcdevitt4353 6 жыл бұрын
Hawkeye and Green Arrow creating the universe is the kind of over the top bullshit I love
@louisseymour9247
@louisseymour9247 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite inter company crossover of all. The interactions between the DC and Marvel Universe, the sheer number of cameos, the characterisation, the epic cosmic threat, it's a damn good story in of itself.
@RyutheWeredragon
@RyutheWeredragon 6 жыл бұрын
"Since then, DC and Marvel have had no other crossovers" Not... ENTIRELY true. There was one more - Superman/Fantastic Four - this event is directly referenced in it.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 3 ай бұрын
Might’ve just been made around the same time.
@phantomdriver2010
@phantomdriver2010 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen someone hate something as much as Superman hates the Marvel universe He took the planet being slightly smaller as some kind of personal attack
@deadpoolmlp5810
@deadpoolmlp5810 2 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this in the wake of Perez's Cancer diagnosis. We're losing a legend soon.
@gentlemanlygeeky4088
@gentlemanlygeeky4088 2 жыл бұрын
The man will be gone but his legacy will never die.
@meowistforlife
@meowistforlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@gentlemanlygeeky4088 sad
@V4Now
@V4Now 6 жыл бұрын
I have each issue signed by George Perez. He's such a nice man. 😁
@V4Now
@V4Now 6 жыл бұрын
Ian R. Nava Huber so you should! Mwahahahaaaa!
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 6 жыл бұрын
Its kinda fitting that the JLA/AVENGERS (the last Marvel/DC crossover) would somehow fit the main plots and elements of Contest of Champions, Secret Wars Original, Crisis on Earth 2 and Crisis on Ininite Earths to make one cohesive plot
@MrThorfan64
@MrThorfan64 5 жыл бұрын
True. It feels like a tribute to the annual Crisis stories you got in JLA comics 60s-80s. Even has the Spectre pushing Earths apart, which happened in I think the 4th crossover between JLA and JSA.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 3 жыл бұрын
There's even some Infinity Gauntlet in there too!
@CyborgWolf
@CyborgWolf 6 жыл бұрын
Ok but a crossover Captain America/ G.I Joe against Kobra would be amazing
@partickstwart5978
@partickstwart5978 6 жыл бұрын
You know, I get Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver finding the idea of DC's heroes being so venerated a little weird, what with all the mutant hate they got back home, but I don't think it quite works with the rest of the Avengers. It's like they couldn't think of something wrong with the DC Universe like they could with the Marvel Universe. Even then, I feel like they could have put a little more effort into why the Avengers would have similar salt levels to the Justice League. Could have them discover someone like Amanda Waller or Mr. Bones and say that their government is more corrupt. Could point out half the stupid decisions the Guardians of the Universe make and have them get mad at their pretentiousness. Could show Cap a picture of when Superman had a mullet.
@redlanternreviews4821
@redlanternreviews4821 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart yeah I get what they were going for, but pretty much all the Marvel heroes in that scene with the exception of those two should already be used to this kind of praise. Like you said the others should have discovered just how corrupt the DC government really is with people like Bones and Waller
@trishahernz7809
@trishahernz7809 5 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, the muggles in Marvel are dicks. They're not above going to the Avengers mansion and destroy property because a senator said they suck (in the Kree-Skrull war). And this was before the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are Magneto's kids in canon. They're just shocked DC was a lot more friendly.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 4 жыл бұрын
As corrupt as DC Earth is, it's not like Marvel is any better on that front. I think they were extremely over the top about it, but I get why the Avengers would be so unnerved seeing the level of hero worship on DC's Earth. It's such a culture shock, and they're so used to supervillains and evil alternate everythings that of course their first reaction would be "wait, did these guys take over the world?" It's just stupid as hell that they would keep that mindset for more than a few minutes, since they should have pretty quickly realized that the civilians weren't acting like Latvarian citizens meeting Dr. Doom.
@skibobshipoddlypop
@skibobshipoddlypop 3 жыл бұрын
It's not really the Avengers though, Quicksilver and Hawkeye are immediately a little envious, Quicksilver maybe more so due to the major prominence of the Flash in his universe compared to him as a lesser hero, but only Superman and Captain America are depicted as extremely salty, and unjustifiably so. Thor's pissed, but as he points out, they're strangers who invade their realm to steal cosmic artifacts and are talking mess, only Cap is freaking out about them being fascist while everyone is like "Uh, okay Steve, why don't you just cool off a bit"
@hitomisalazar4073
@hitomisalazar4073 3 жыл бұрын
Well it makes sense as a conflict to me. Like (well outside the MCU where they actually do this), I can't think of a case where they have a museum venerating super heroes in Marvel. Probably is that I'm not aware of off the top of my head, I'm sure. But it's not a big thing. Like there isn't a "Captain America Day" in Marvel so much. But there is "We have turned the day of Superman's Death into a global holiday of mourning" and "We literally built a massive museum dedicated to The Flash" and such. In Marvel's earth their big well known news outfit of The Daily Bugle rages about vigilantes being the scum of the earth from Spider-man to Daredevil. In DC the Daily Planet talks about how Superman is the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's a very different sort of public view. Nevermind that a lot of Marvel's big villains as well are megalomaniac asshats who seem to think "Because I have Superpowers I'm better and should rule over the Earth". Heck the sort of veneration DC heroes get on the regular does happen in Marvel... with villains. Like Dr. Doom in Latveria. Or Namor in Atlantis. It'd probably make a lot of sense to see massive statues to a cape, the object hero worship, etc, and draw that Dr. Doom parallel over thinking: "They must be a swell guy" in their home world context.
@troin3925
@troin3925 Жыл бұрын
If a movie version ever existed, then it would technically be a crossover between Disney and Warner Bros.
@michaelconnell1010
@michaelconnell1010 6 жыл бұрын
Galactus: You are tearing me apart, Krona!!
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos 5 жыл бұрын
Silver Suffer: Great story. Anyway, how's your sex life?
@Longshanks1690
@Longshanks1690 6 жыл бұрын
So the intro is basically saying; "War (between comic book companies). War never changes."
@Longshanks1690
@Longshanks1690 6 жыл бұрын
jbiehlable *4
@jordanthejq12
@jordanthejq12 6 жыл бұрын
* New Vegas
@neoforrester4401
@neoforrester4401 3 жыл бұрын
Superman: Your Earth is corrupted and stained with your dark, cynical toughts. Superman: (Ignores the glare from Earth-2 Superman) Seriously, no one has ever felt that this was some kind of prelude for Infinite Crisis?
@amiablereaper
@amiablereaper 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's really funny that grandmaster is like "quick! Everyone! Go grab me every single implement of ultimate power from 2 universes!" And nobody questions it.
@MatthewJones-jg4eu
@MatthewJones-jg4eu 3 жыл бұрын
Evil well always win because good is dumb
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden Жыл бұрын
U wanna question a cosmic being?
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 9 ай бұрын
11:59 reluctance for them to go along with doing something because someone told them to.
@Bobsheaux
@Bobsheaux 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, why is Captain America surprised to see civilians admiring them? I know that Marvel is more about heroes you can relate to while DC is supposed to be about heroes you LOOK UP to, but isn't Cap the exception, where everyone looks up to him as the heroic ideal? 19:32 - I'm honestly surprised that Batman didn't manage to kick Vision DESPITE his phasing. "Wait, what? You should've passed right through me. How did you kick me?" *_"BECAUSE I'M BATMAN!!!!!"_* Ugh... That stare-down between Cap and Batman is ALL that should've happened between Bats and Supes in BvS. "You have the power to take over the world just by LOOKING at it the wrong way. And yet you haven't done anything of the sort when you've had YEARS to do so." "And you're using methods of fighting criminals that are questionable at best... but you have a working relationship with the Gotham PD." "...Let's talk." "Meanwhile, Batman and Captain America ride their Scooty-Puff Jr..." I'm dead. lmao
@dylansharp8471
@dylansharp8471 6 ай бұрын
Is the look up to thing more of Linkara's interpretation? Also, maybe it was that stuff about Cap that was revealed earlier.
@Elyseon
@Elyseon 5 жыл бұрын
if Supes had been to Genosha, the "WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING" scene from Kingdom Come would have looked tame in comparison.
@SirAsdf
@SirAsdf 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one disappointed we didn't get any tie-in one-shots for this series? I personally would've loved to see some adventures on the merged Earth.
@thewoollyviking5928
@thewoollyviking5928 6 жыл бұрын
Could you guys imagine if Quicksilver had been successful in connecting to the speed force? That would have been INSANE!
@BigAmericanGirlFan
@BigAmericanGirlFan 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been awesome to have the respective speedsters (Quicksilver and the Flash) visit each other and extend their respective families. Like Tommy becoming friends with Bart Allen.
@wellthatwaswierd4570
@wellthatwaswierd4570 2 жыл бұрын
So Krona's scientific method is the equivalent of trying to find out how a clock works by bashing it with a sledgehammer. Good to know.
@callmejoe8594
@callmejoe8594 5 жыл бұрын
13:37 I'll never get tired of the Superman ''Over there'' jokes.
@LaNoLaCola
@LaNoLaCola 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I lived through a time when DC and Marvel allowed for cross company crossover
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 6 жыл бұрын
the saddest part is that Marvel is anti company crossover (Disney owns both Star Wars and Marvel yet 0 crossover). while Dc is doing crossovers with everyone (Planet of the Apes, Star Trek, MMPR, TMNT, Looney Tunes, Archie, and Surpsignlt not Steven Universe, even though Warner owns both DC and Cartoon Network. I am sure Steven Universe and Superboy/Jonathan Kent would become BBF fast. And there owuld be an AMAZING CONTRAST if the Crystal Gems met either Superman, or Any green lantern, and especially, Martian Manhunter, and Batman)
@calebmayfield3326
@calebmayfield3326 6 жыл бұрын
+Ian R. Nava Huber When did Archie crossover with Dc? Also For some reason I think Dc should buy Ben 10 and make it part of thei universe
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 6 жыл бұрын
Harly and Ivy meet Betty And Veronica. Google it. They already have the original one Dial H for HERO and boy everyone knows they don't even ackonwedge his existance despite having good comics (H-E-R-O, and Dial H, without mentioning the original run) (also If Ben 10 is already owned by Warner Bros then technically they could do a crossover with Ben 10 whenever they wanted)
@JohnNewton27
@JohnNewton27 6 жыл бұрын
I lived through it. It was a good time.
@MrSafior
@MrSafior 6 жыл бұрын
+Ian R. Nava Huber It may change. The only compagny crossover who happe in the 2010's was Attack on Titan vs Marvel and Iron man meet space brother, (the first one is notorious crap and the second is pretty dificult to find.) and this two crossover happen thank to Cebulski who know rules marvel. So prepar to see more Marvel intercompagny crossover in the near futur.
@MrBGS101
@MrBGS101 3 жыл бұрын
God do I want there to be an animated movie of this.
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@taterslam0573
@taterslam0573 Жыл бұрын
A movie would be cool but screw that I want a damn video game (fighting game mostly) to be made!
@lightyearpig12
@lightyearpig12 6 жыл бұрын
Thank the various gods of Marvel and DC that the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't work in any other universe! Just imagine how much untold destruction Darkseid could cause with it.
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden Жыл бұрын
He’d probably give up the hunt for the anti life equation thinking this is more effective
@DreFromMaine8472
@DreFromMaine8472 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my most favorite comic miniseries of all time. Great story and great artwork!
@AaronRotenberg
@AaronRotenberg 4 жыл бұрын
23:36... I like how it's just generally accepted in the Marvel universe that a "time bike" is a thing, despite it (according to the Marvel Fandom wiki) having never been seen before or since.
@unownperson
@unownperson 2 жыл бұрын
I won one of the Hero Initiative reprints from a raffle my local comic book shop had, I am so glad this is a Patreon Review gave me a shock to see an ATFW episode on it. Definitely will watch once I'm done reading.
@Mask0fFate
@Mask0fFate 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is an event comic. Large cast of characters, grand stakes, and eventual consequences of the event. Heck, it’s even a two-parter, like the Crisis on Infinite Earths review or the Secret Wars review.
@thomasjohnson1885
@thomasjohnson1885 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Johnson It is
@Frank-Voight-Kampff
@Frank-Voight-Kampff 4 ай бұрын
Hawkeye's Squadron Supreme jokes never fails to make me chuckle. The 10-year-old in me is just super excited that this comic exsists.
@andyabdullah3324
@andyabdullah3324 5 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the greatest crossover ever by DC and Marvel. The story is great and straightforward. The art. Man the art is fantastic and classic. The detail. George Perez is beast. He illustrated the Crisis of Infinite Earths with such amazing detail, and this one too. Damn. Shame we won't get anything like this anytime in the future.
@TomboTime
@TomboTime 6 жыл бұрын
i think this series is really clever! i like how there are nods to each universe scattered all over. i like the amazingly composed fight panels. i love how some of the pages for each universe mirror each other, like how in one section scarlet witch and Zatanna meditating are mirroring each other.
@morganyoung3557
@morganyoung3557 6 жыл бұрын
As a fan of both Marvel and DC, this kind of crossover is something that I would enjoy. It also helps that the story actually sounds pretty good, it also proves my theory that Batman would get along with Captain America more than Iron Man true. Also is just me or is Superman a jerk in this story and I usually like Superman.
@CButtonshaw
@CButtonshaw 6 жыл бұрын
he's channeling Superboy-Prime. Must be a Kryptonian thing hating universes they're not from.
@Wright805
@Wright805 6 жыл бұрын
+Morgan Young Watch Part 2. It's explained there why Superman is acting that way.
@morganyoung3557
@morganyoung3557 5 жыл бұрын
Wright805 I am glad that they were able to explain why Superman was acting like a jerk here since I was very confused by him acting like this.
@MrXemnas1992
@MrXemnas1992 6 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, seeing Darkseid with the Infinity Gauntlet made me gasp aloud. Yeah, it was ultimately a cop-out tease, but DAMN that is a scary concept.
@TheSol101
@TheSol101 4 жыл бұрын
I NEED THIS COMIC NOW!!! Googles price on internet $400-$700 for collection Googles how much kidneys sell for.
@gentlemanlygeeky4088
@gentlemanlygeeky4088 3 жыл бұрын
I found this miniseries at a con for $30.
@androzani84productions85
@androzani84productions85 2 ай бұрын
There’s an omnibus later this year.
@jameshowlett5106
@jameshowlett5106 3 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I just thought listening to Linkara here... Leonard Nimoy would've been a great Metron. Just something about his voice coming from the guy who goes around the universe on a chair to collect knowledge sounds like a Leonard Nimoy role.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 2 жыл бұрын
God rest his soul.
@superemoboi2050
@superemoboi2050 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think Superman world get angry if he went to the Marvel universe. I think he'd get really depressed. Superman: "Man, _everyone_ is having a shitty time here!"
@skibobshipoddlypop
@skibobshipoddlypop 3 жыл бұрын
He would really help turn it around though, although something tells me Doctor Doom would kill him pretty fast. While Lex has crazy intellect and an unrivaled ego, Doctor Doom wouldn't ever compare himself to Superman and need to top him, he's outraged to not be more powerful than whatever the most powerful thing he knows about it at any given time. He'd somehow suck Superman's life from him without ever thinking it an achievement
@lorddrayvon1426
@lorddrayvon1426 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame Perez is retired. He could really help give scale to some great crossovers. I'm not knocking the work of God knows how many other artists, I'm just saying Perez was one of the best in capturing the grand scale of things.
@fabriciosanchez6113
@fabriciosanchez6113 3 жыл бұрын
I tought George Pérez died
@HBarnill
@HBarnill 6 жыл бұрын
Today is the 10th anniversary of Heath Ledger’s (the Joker) passing.
@santarosa393
@santarosa393 6 жыл бұрын
F. N. Lorter God I miss him😣
@jameswhite3799
@jameswhite3799 6 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer his role in 10 Things I Hate About You. But yes, tis a sad day.
@joshuabell7761
@joshuabell7761 6 жыл бұрын
RIP
@MrXemnas1992
@MrXemnas1992 6 жыл бұрын
Damn. Still a heavy loss. In a way, the Joker killed him... :(
@lightyearpig12
@lightyearpig12 6 жыл бұрын
He was so serious yet so endearing at the same time.
@KensanOni
@KensanOni 6 жыл бұрын
A Lobo-Rocket Raccoon crossover could rock. Just saying.
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 5 жыл бұрын
In the Amalgam Universe, there was, I think, a big missed opportunity, why didn't Iron Man amalgamate with Batman? Case and point, Iron-Bat. A massive indestructible Iron Man Bat suit.
@Spatu10
@Spatu10 Жыл бұрын
Red Tornado and Vision fighting, however brief, is still super cool
@baileylarsen9439
@baileylarsen9439 Жыл бұрын
God I love crossovers
@Cheesesteaks4Life98
@Cheesesteaks4Life98 4 жыл бұрын
Superman don't you know? Marvel's Earth's problems are "over there" and "over there" will have to stand for itself.
@Astrithor
@Astrithor 6 жыл бұрын
Scooty Puff Jr. jokes?! Linkara, this is why I love you.
@tomatoisjp
@tomatoisjp 3 жыл бұрын
the cosmic cube can DO ANYTHING
@batfreeze56
@batfreeze56 6 жыл бұрын
This is definitely my favorite crossover in history. What a perfect story, and at the same time commentary on the ever changing nature of comic books.
@captainsteroid2454
@captainsteroid2454 6 жыл бұрын
The artwork is amazing, with great writing, copious amounts of fan service with a dash of Super-Dickery towards the Marvel Universe. I have GOT to score myself a copy of this! :D
@matthewmckee3762
@matthewmckee3762 3 жыл бұрын
THE COSMIC CUBE CAN DO ANYTHING . . . except work for Batman, apparently.
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 2 жыл бұрын
wait was he even trying to use it. really think about that
@chs9999
@chs9999 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say to the image of dark side of The Infinity gauntlet is closets to be darkened
@Anthintendo
@Anthintendo 5 жыл бұрын
13:01 Hulk’s just having lunch, Superman! Everyone gets cranky when they’re hungry. After he’s had his hot dogs, he’ll calm right down.
@neoforrester4401
@neoforrester4401 2 жыл бұрын
And if you want to blame someone, blame Ross who keeps pursuing him.
@darrenhood4033
@darrenhood4033 4 жыл бұрын
I've long maintained that this story was the swan song for good comics in the modern era. 1998-2004 was a great time to be a fan of the big two. Both companies had begun to phase out the excess and poor decisions influenced by the speculator boom. Heroes Return, JLA, JMS Spider-Man, LEX - 2000, Johns on Flash, Waid on FF, Jimenez and Rucka on Wonder Woman, Jim Lee Batman, Cassandra as Batgirl, also after 2000 there wasn't a reluctance on companywide crossovers! There was a lot to love about this era, and this mega crossover is fun, it has the classic superhero storytelling that frankly is missing once we get to Identity Crisis in DC and Disassembled at MArvel. Stories became too dark and gritty and especially at DC as you've covered relying on nostalgia that wasn't needed (ressurection of Wally and Hal, and a insistence to punish their heroes, like Roy Harper losing his child and going insane, and we got pointless event and crossover comics. Sure there were some good stories to come from Marvel and DC but as a whole, nothing comes to as epic, fun and exciting as anything that was written and drawn for JLA/Avengers.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 6 жыл бұрын
If Joker hated Red Skull, i wish we had another crossover with Hydra Cap wanting to kill Joker and Batman and Captain america teaming up
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 6 жыл бұрын
You know, come to think of it, in spite of DC not crossing over with Marvel since, IDW has done crossovers with both DC and Marvel, would be funny if they were the ones to somehow bring the two together in some sort of three way crossover. Crossovers between independent properties (as in stuff not part of or spun off of the same main brand like pretty much everything Marvel and DC currently do) do seem to be their thing more than any other American comic publisher right now after all (and yet, there has still yet to be a proper My Little Pony crossover with anything, random references and covers of course notwithstanding) .
@bowenorcutt78
@bowenorcutt78 4 жыл бұрын
Let me try something: A while back, I started going on about how nice it'd be to get a film adaptation of Red Son. And wouldn't you know it, WB just happened to announce one was in the works a couple months later. Probably a coincidence, but in the spirit of Honest Trailers somehow accurately calling the deaths of TWO major Game of Thrones characters in a row, let me try it again: I'd really, REALLY like an animated movie made based on this comic. Preferably with the EMH and JL cartoons's casts.
@dylansharp8471
@dylansharp8471 6 ай бұрын
Well with Kevin Conroy sadly passing away, who's voice Batman?
@bowenorcutt78
@bowenorcutt78 6 ай бұрын
@@dylansharp8471 No idea. I guess they'd sadly have to recast him. Probably use whoever they're using for Batman in animation anyway.
@androzani84productions85
@androzani84productions85 2 ай бұрын
It would more likely use the Avengers Assemble cast
@tokubrony9447
@tokubrony9447 6 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite comic book of all time! 😁
@gentlemanlygeeky4088
@gentlemanlygeeky4088 3 жыл бұрын
Mine too.
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@DarnHooligans
@DarnHooligans 5 ай бұрын
The subtle foreshadowing for the end of the Contest of Champions buried in this episode
@joeberryman3563
@joeberryman3563 3 жыл бұрын
I never get tired reading this book. I always come back to it.
@superstarultra28
@superstarultra28 2 жыл бұрын
"I am Thor, god of vocabulary words!" LOL
@Dreadjaws
@Dreadjaws 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, man, I miss the drunk Iron Man voice.
@jordannino1836
@jordannino1836 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but I love this crossover
@vwin9112
@vwin9112 6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Nino well, it does have the same to draw the best style of the heroes and best matchups.
@1216Rockman
@1216Rockman 6 жыл бұрын
You know what would be awesome Maybe after Phase 5 or Phase 6 we get an entire 3 Phases dedicated to a Marvel/DC Crossover probably won't happen but it would be cool
@oscarmccormack1611
@oscarmccormack1611 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very confident that will never happen. And either way, even if there's a crossover like that, there's no way it lasts a full phase.
@TheEman11910
@TheEman11910 2 жыл бұрын
Only way that will ever happen is if Disney is allowed to buy DC, which it won’t
@dannybuckle3763
@dannybuckle3763 6 жыл бұрын
"Then all of this has been a waste of time...Mary, I need to borrow your coach again!"
@fmoland
@fmoland 6 жыл бұрын
"Superman...really hates the Marvel Universe"
@thatnerdyguy8701
@thatnerdyguy8701 6 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong that I like both???
@vwin9112
@vwin9112 6 жыл бұрын
JL member no, it isn't, If I can hang out with both wonder woman and captain marvel(carol danvers) or zatanna and scarlet witch, then no, its no bad to love both. We all need a break from the comic fights these days.
@thatnerdyguy8701
@thatnerdyguy8701 6 жыл бұрын
Van Win ikr, for me those stories are overrated.
@MrDp115
@MrDp115 6 жыл бұрын
If it's wrong then I don't want to be right
@xgray2012
@xgray2012 6 жыл бұрын
JL member No, no it isn't.
@dragonempress8367
@dragonempress8367 6 жыл бұрын
No
@AT-il2ej
@AT-il2ej 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel's earth is...over there And over there needs to handle its own problems
@jackregz
@jackregz 2 жыл бұрын
God I love this miniseries so much
@ricardorios2355
@ricardorios2355 6 жыл бұрын
Blame Joe Quesada for no crossovers. He burned bridges.
@segundovargas
@segundovargas 6 жыл бұрын
How?
@ricardorios2355
@ricardorios2355 6 жыл бұрын
segundo vargas When he left DC for Marvel, he was a bad sport and said terrible things about the company and people running. I remember someone from DC All Access saying that there would be no crossovers as long as Joe Quesada was at Marvel.
@nemesis3587
@nemesis3587 6 жыл бұрын
That's completely true. That massive douchebag, how he is still working in Marvel is beyond me.
@someguynamedtrevor6081
@someguynamedtrevor6081 6 жыл бұрын
That's a bad example no one gets along with Alan Moore
@someguynamedtrevor6081
@someguynamedtrevor6081 6 жыл бұрын
Are you mocking how I spelled his name the first time I noticed my mistake and fixed it
@jessaminehaak8253
@jessaminehaak8253 3 жыл бұрын
Why on earth was this miniseries focussed on the main story instead of LOBO vs THE SHIAR EMPIRE. Where is our 4-double-sized-issue story about THAT?
@chasformer3091
@chasformer3091 5 жыл бұрын
13:32 my favorite "Those Problems Are Over There" joke in this series. Is there a "Those Problems Are Over There" trope on TVtropes?
@indy6s
@indy6s 5 жыл бұрын
15:05 check it out, metrons symbol on his chest is the drawing of the miracle machine from final crisis! Neat
@transhumanhivemind3048
@transhumanhivemind3048 6 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else scream like a little girl when they saw Darkseid with the Infinity Gauntlet. That would be game over.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 6 жыл бұрын
it probably comes up in part 2, but I'm sure I remember it being mentioned somewhere in a book I read once about this storyline having an AWESOME description of Galactus' throne with it being made from dead Galactus' or something. Very Lovecraftian, almost, very chilling, very cool. if accurate, this detail alone makes the entire crossover worth it to me.
@Merit2397
@Merit2397 Жыл бұрын
Another favorite episode of mine. Yeah, for some reason, probably just my love for superheroes in general, I just love these reviews for both Mavel and DC stories. Love the brawls and what brings these two universes together. That it's all just a game that two cosmic elders are engaged in. It's truly an epic battle and I think my favorite part of ALL of this it how Captain America and Batman overcome their differences and work together to find out what's going on. It's just so damn fun!!!
@Morrigan101
@Morrigan101 6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the Marvel Vs Capcom Vs Mortal kombat Vs DC universe
@knicknac95
@knicknac95 6 жыл бұрын
22:21 - an intersting tidbit here is the comments that wanda makes about the chaos magic corrupting here - might THIS have been the cause of Wandas eventual insanity that lead to the house of M and No more mutants?
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 6 жыл бұрын
This has been my headcanon since I read this in tpb ten years ago!
@L1701
@L1701 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Bendis is not that clever.
@MrThorfan64
@MrThorfan64 5 жыл бұрын
@Michael Beld Yeh, it kind of makes sense.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 6 жыл бұрын
Given Perez' fondness for drawing massive crowds of characters, it honestly surprises me that he didn't arrange to work on Legion of Superheroes. Really seems like it should have been right up his alley.
@AT4W
@AT4W 6 жыл бұрын
He ended up doing the crossover Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds.
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