Why it Was Almost Impossible to Put a Computer in Space

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It’s really hard to put a computer into space… so hard in fact that laptops on the international space station are treated as effectively disposable. So when the folks at HPE wanted to put a SERVER on the ISS, people were a bit skeptical… and it turned out even with the help of KIOXIA’s fast and reliable storage devices, to be harder than they thought.
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0:00 PCs in space???
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4:43 Checking out the servers
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10:33 Express Rack
12:42 Networking
16:16 Conclusion

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@LinusTechTips Ай бұрын

Correction at 15:20 - This is meant to say "TDRS Satellite" instead of "TRDS Satellitte."

@arsen3097 Ай бұрын

No comments ? Lemme fix that

@Hardesteen Ай бұрын

TDSR?

@MegaLokopo Ай бұрын

If only it was Tardis. That would be my favorite satalite.

@OfficialDaveChannel Ай бұрын

Like the TARDIS?

@AnthonyChopra Ай бұрын

Did u lot get to play with that DVD Rom Drive behind linus its got its own volume button 2:52

@TheLexikitty Ай бұрын

It’s very hard to throw a computer that high and have it still work.

@YouTubetail Ай бұрын

Haha bro 🤣 best world pc

@RealOscarMay Ай бұрын

It’s very hard to throw a computer at all and have it still work

@LostShadowGD Ай бұрын

LEXI! Also so true.

@starwarsshooter336 Ай бұрын

wow a random appearing lexi

@Knastrolll Ай бұрын

Drop a computer and have it fall that far up*

@rytislun913 Ай бұрын

Many kerbals have died from "Computer bit flips"

@samiraperi467 Ай бұрын

"Many kerbals died to bring us this information."

@Dasgabar Ай бұрын

@Harsh85114get a life

@autobotjazz1972 Ай бұрын

@@samiraperi467 A quote from Mon Kerbma

@FlameSoulis Ай бұрын

Does that explain 11:00? (Yes, I know it Jeb. Maybe a long lost ancestor or whatever.)

@r3ttgaming177 Ай бұрын

That's a beautiful way of describing a rage quit right there.

@evelynkieraivanova5404 Ай бұрын

As an actual engineer who deals with SWAP and the difficulties of aerospace environments, I will say this video is well made and pretty accurate.

@Czeckie Ай бұрын

do you have any insight on why there isn't any shielding on the computer? would you need a meter of lead or something like that?

@evelynkieraivanova5404 Ай бұрын

Because effective shielding is very heavy. Especially for neutrons and Gamma rays. It takes a lot of material to do that.

@JC.Denton. Ай бұрын

male

@zinayhernandez8394 27 күн бұрын

And you been to outer space. 😂

@ilovealuu 15 күн бұрын

@@evelynkieraivanova5404 how does one go in this field? Seems interesting

@heroofnone Ай бұрын

I can't believe they built a fake sound stage to cover up the fact that Linus went to the space station.

@JorgeAguilera Ай бұрын

I’m so glad I didn’t read this comment before watching the whole thing.

@KriLL325783 Ай бұрын

He fit into the hand luggage

@gcewing Ай бұрын

They did a really good job simulating gravity, wonder how they did that.

@nirmalaagarwal3414 Ай бұрын

@@gcewing linus just needed 2 very small electromagnets to stick to the surface

@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Ай бұрын

He actually landed on the Moon too.

@QEin1786 Ай бұрын

I like this sort of sponsorship; "Hey, we did a cool thing, let us pay you to come out and see it all and share how cool it is, to get our brand out there."

@zackzeed Ай бұрын

One of the best kinds of sponsorships!

@Dragon-xd9em Ай бұрын

I hope we see more of this kinda stuff, it's cool to see all the fancy space tech!

@himaro101 Ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. I mean, it's a flex from Kioxia for sure, but damn, it's a big flex. I'd love to be able to migrate to Kioxia SSD's for my NAS, even if they're monstrous overkill.

@JoshuaCasey Ай бұрын

I agree. I just hope this doesn't age poorly like Linus's trip to Intel in the terrorist state of Israel

@caiocc12 Ай бұрын

Yeah, some years ago If you said Kioxia I would ask which disease is that, and if I wanted a good SSD I would go Samsung or Intel, now I know about them.

@cpljimmyneutron Ай бұрын

So, in the once upon a time my grandfather worked for JPL, and I did in fact get to see a couple of the ISS modules at Cape Canaveral before they launched. And I can tell you... they basically looked like big white rectangles. Researching the tech behind them is honestly more fun. But as far as computers surviving in space... my grandfather did work on two such computers that are still working today, more than 40 years after they launched... the Voyager probes.

@tyrannicpuppy Ай бұрын

That is so cool. Space is so incredible and the folks like your grandfather than helped us learn so much about it are all legends. They deserve way more credit and appreciation from us than they get.

@2ManyGoats Ай бұрын

True legend!

@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын

but those computers were no were near as powerful, and were specially designed for radiation, these were COTS servers with no radiation protection of any kind.

@chrisoakey9841 Ай бұрын

there are a few things called satellites up there also. not surprising they also have computers up there. the big problem is the ISS seemed to be planned and executed with long slow and dangerously bad design and practice. everything from the station not being completed till after it was supposed to have reached end of life. they run at low pressure resulting in converting super fit & healthy humans into very weak people. they could dissipate heat from computers to heat the station.

@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын

@@chrisoakey9841 Utter nonsense. "they run at low pressure resulting in converting super fit & healthy humans into very weak people." That in no way weakens people, it's lack of gravity that does it, same as bed-ridden hospital patients. "they could dissipate heat from computers to heat the station." The problem is Not heating, it's cooling. Without sufficient cooling, the ISS would overheat and cook teh astronauts alive from getting too hot. The computers also need cooling, and so are limited by the total ISS cooling budget, which is limited by the size and number of their radiators. Since the ISS continued longer than planned, they kept bolting on new unplanned additions. things take years to design, test, validate,etc. before flown, and so something planned in the 1980s and initially designed in the 1990s is going to be obsolete 35yrs later, who knew. The ISS was initially developed in the days before personal computers, internet, and other technology being commonplace. Even most electronic calculators in teh early 1990s were still very crude devices, with 2-line calculators and more scientific computing features coming along later.

@paratus04 Ай бұрын

11:41 One correction. The cooling loops exchange heat with the External Thermal Control System radiators (the two sets of 3 radiators closest to the modules along the truss) The Photovoltaic Thermal Control System Radiators are the 4 radiators mounted between each pair of solar arrays. They only provide cooling to the electronics for their respective solar arrays. This makes sense because they are mounted outside of the 2 Solar Alpha Rotary Joints which spin the 4 port and starboard solar arrays 360 degrees every orbit. It’s hard to pass a fluid through a rotating joint.

@HeisenbergFam Ай бұрын

Kudos to Linus for going to space without space suit just for the thumbnail

@sussteve226 Ай бұрын

Yeah props x69,420

@FurballCat Ай бұрын

oh what a middle aged man would do for views right

@discorddiscord2647 Ай бұрын

Wait he’s actually in space or is he in a rocket on earth that will transport this equipment ?

@hiddendrifts Ай бұрын

@@discorddiscord2647 i think he actually mentioned this on wan show; he's in a replica of the iss at one of hp's offices. or smth like that 17:11 oh there you go

@ShadowWispr Ай бұрын

Not to be *that* guy, but isn't this an ISS model at NASA

@RomainCavallini Ай бұрын

OMG ! they put a "do not stir" label at 16:01 , above the "o2 cryogenic tanks" label. For those not as geeky as me, its a reference to the Apollo 13 lunar mission, that suffered an explosion due to a short circuit...while stirring the O2 tanks ! (Fortunately no one died, its a really cool story, there's also a movie about that)

@MrDivinePotato Ай бұрын

I'm glad someone else noticed that!

@mushroom_of_doom2148 Ай бұрын

16:17

@tomikun8057 Ай бұрын

what movie?

@cerealport2726 Ай бұрын

@@tomikun8057 the mission was Apollo 13, the movie was also Apollo 13... but then, maybe you're joking....

@heuhen Ай бұрын

@@tomikun8057 Apollo 13

@ramtinnazeryan Ай бұрын

that "Houtson we have a.. Linus" joke was AMAZIIING!!!!!

@GrayMatter70 Ай бұрын

Hate to buzzkill, but that's based on an oft-repeated misquote. Neither of the Apollo 13 astronauts involved said that. It was closer to "Houston, we've had a...".

@anonymoususer3561 Ай бұрын

Redditor, you have to go back

@aaardvaaark Ай бұрын

This video came at just the right time, I've been looking for a server for my space station.

@Luzgar Ай бұрын

The very idea of Linus Chaos Monkey Sebastian on the ISS is terrifying. He would be able to make it drop from orbit.

@frostydog2028 Ай бұрын

Where do you think Cobra got the idea for ZEUS during GI Joe 2?

@trophywolfe Ай бұрын

Hijack the communication antenna to get high speed satalite internet 😂

@bvoyelr Ай бұрын

But we can rest assured that the day would be saved by an inanimate carbon rod.

@TheOmegaRiddler Ай бұрын

Linus wishes he could go to the ISS so he could drop something in zero gravity and not have to worry about breaking something.

@frostydog2028 Ай бұрын

@@TheOmegaRiddler He’d find a way to break it…. This is Linus we are talking about.

@sleipnir_8364 Ай бұрын

it is ironic that "space age technology" needed to be older and more analog to survive.

@mozzjones6943 Ай бұрын

And/Or, Because it took so much time to build things and most of the NASA space tech was designed and engineered decades ago, They can't just update/replace to accumulate new tech.. Like for the ISS.

@PrograError Ай бұрын

Sounds like the land part of the nuclear triad... which was still using a huge arse diskette...

@bthatguy1181 Ай бұрын

Not when you consider the "space age" was 60 years ago.

@ulasht1 Ай бұрын

@@mozzjones6943 and yet they can't even follow their own guidelines for making a rocket go figure. joking aside while the getting things to space and having it work issue is a factor most of it's Bureaucracy.

@Spearhead45 Ай бұрын

well government has never been good at moving fast. Private industry should be in charge of the tech and integration. I mean a us defense contractror charges 90k dollars for a very small bag of bushings. they charge too much because the government pays with tax dollars.

@jackryan2946 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the video!! I think this may be my personal favorite. So cool to see the practical applications in such a unique and challenging environment.

@VascoBreitenfeld Ай бұрын

Wow! This has got to be one of the coolest videos I’ve ever seen on KZfaq! Great to know how the ISS operates and its constraints. It’s nothing like I expected! Please do more videos on space tech if you can 😊

@BlackHoleForge Ай бұрын

14:47 for anybody feeling nostalgic, remember AOL and dial-up. You would have to wait 20 minutes for a single song to download. Now you can relive the experience, all you have to do is become an astronaut.

@HazewinDog Ай бұрын

How about sending a >1MB file through MSN? That would also take minutes at best and had a very high potential to fail, at which point you had to start all over again. Sounds very much like what they're dealing with in space today :D

@undinism69 Ай бұрын

haha, I've been using internet since '89. Downloads to home will slow back then here in Australia. 300 baud modem if I remember correctly?

@icehawk3442 Ай бұрын

Today's lesson: NASA space station tech doesn't mean high tech, it just means it's engineered to not kill its occupants as far as possible

@MirageAfterDark Ай бұрын

To be fair, "engineered not to kill its occupants as far as possible" in "lethal high energy high radiation environment" is fairly high tech. :P

@audguy Ай бұрын

To be fair, it is up really high!

@zwenkwiel816 Ай бұрын

It just means "good enough for government work"

@formes2388 Ай бұрын

Not really surprising. Think about a submarine - the other kind of pressure vessel we use as a species that deals with dramatic changes. The ISS deals with a total pressure differential of ~1 atmosphere. Relatively speaking, it's easy to keep the thing as one solid piece. The difficult part is the lack of atmosphere. Take a hinge - like a standard door hinge, two pieces of brass or whatever, that slide together. In space you would find it has the awful habbit of sticking after you open it a few times, and by sticking I mean suddenly welding itself together as the oxide layer is rubbed off, exposing bare smooth metal surfaces that don't know any difference than to presume they are a single continuous piece of metal and suddenly: You can't easily move the hinge. This isn't a problem on earth - any oxide layer that does get removed, quickly reforms. But where you have no atmosphere? The problems in Space aren't so much about bleeding edge technology - it's about solving problems that you didn't know would be problems. This is why Reliability, trumps basically all else. You need to know it will work.

@AdrianSchwartzmann Ай бұрын

It's like seeing explosion proof secruity cameras in a companies product line, then thinking they must be some crazy kind of armored camera. Then finding out it just means they won't cause an explosion not that they would survive one.

@ANDSENS Ай бұрын

What an awesome video. I love it that LTT is sticking to the original mission of making informative/educational vids, love it!

@epickh64 Ай бұрын

This is so awesome. While watching this, my eyes were sparkling so much, one might have seen the light from the ISS. I love this video. Very well-done.

@RandomToon1 Ай бұрын

They launched a hard drive with a super capacitor, but accidentally launched an experiment that tested what happens to unshielded super capacitors when bombarded with gamma radiation. The ISS will ALWAYS manage to gather data about something.

@noobulon4334 Ай бұрын

Oh my, I'm curious of the results

@acmenipponair Ай бұрын

@@noobulon4334 The results were simple: SSDs in space fail much faster than on the earth, as the super capacitators break faster and therefore the SSD gets overcharged during saving procedures earlier compared to earth. Solution: regularly backup your data - that's why they have this big server with longer living capacity, so that they can save the data from the experiments all the time and then send it to earth in big packages.

@tyrannicpuppy Ай бұрын

True science is just as excited about a bad result as a good result. Because it's still a result that they can learn from. And let us never forget just how many amazing discoveries were made by accident while trying to learn something entirely different. Accidental results are some of the best we've made.

@timeimp Ай бұрын

Magic School Bus reference was not expected but entirely appreciated. Nice work Editor!

@DJAlexParker Ай бұрын

Actually found this alot more interesting than I thought I would, great video 😊

@SanchoPanza-wg5xf Ай бұрын

In 1998 a T1 (1.5Mbps) line on earth was considered impressive! Beaming the equivalent out to space was an incredible feat.

@maquiavelmg Ай бұрын

Due to the "lack of gravity", it is impossible to drop something in space. Linus: hold my LTT screwdriver

@tyrannicpuppy Ай бұрын

You just know he used this opportunity to put a few into the chain there. Hoping that one of them might actually make it up to space and get on one of the live streams they do.

@anumeon Ай бұрын

@16:19 "Cryogenic Tanks, do not stir" Someone at NASA remembers what happened to Apollo 13

@venosaur121212 Ай бұрын

Well I would hope that almost everyone at NASA remembere what happened there :D

@MegaLokopo Ай бұрын

@@venosaur121212 I hope the exception to that is the kid of the janitor during take your kid to work day, but he would probably still know that.

@lmcgregoruk Ай бұрын

You missed it at 0:14 then?

@anumeon Ай бұрын

@@lmcgregoruk Nope, i just used the one where i was in the video when i decided to make the comment.. :D

@GloomGaiGar Ай бұрын

they better!

@JohnAdamZiolkowski Ай бұрын

Fascinating video! Every second of it was awesome and filled with answers to questions I've never thought of. Seriously awesome and interesting!

@theWSt Ай бұрын

That's really fascinating, very special and unique video, thx folks!

@Reckless150681 Ай бұрын

Hi I'm working in aerospace, I can talk about just a couple of things: 1. People think of space as cold, but it might not be as cold as you think. Temperature in low Earth orbit (LEO) can be -60 to +120 C depending on how much direct sunlight you're receiving. Linus' point about having no air to convect heat away is a pretty big deal - that's why you need massive radiator panels. 2. NASA and incumbent space agencies tend to be risk-averse and want to see SIGNIFICANT verification of functionality at every level, particularly when humans are involved. That's probably one reason why they don't use Starlink - the technology is simply too new and maybe there's some technical or bureaucratic inertia to overcome. It's also why tech in space tends to be pretty old, even if it's launched today. US agencies like to see flight heritage. So even (as a silly example) if Ryzen 7600 is better than Intel Core 2, if these agencies see that Intel Core 2 provides everything they need, they're more likely to pick the Core 2 over Ryzen 7600 because they KNOW it'll work. This is compounded by the fact that the rad-hardening process takes a ton of money and time, so you often end up sending surprisingly old tech into space. Newer commercial companies and smallsats are trying to use newer tech though. 3. Power budget is super important. One reason that it's so tight is because solar panels degrade over time, especially in space, so the power available to the ISS is decreasing over time. 4. Bit flips are MUCH more common than on Earth, that's why rad-hardening is important. I had a professor whose research specifically tried to ameliorate the effects of bit-flipping. 5. Not necessarily tech related but it's true that space vehicles need to balance physical practicality versus human preference, e.g. convenient orientations versus "needed" orientations like Linus mentioned.

@Deinorius Ай бұрын

About Starlink I'm also asking myself, if those satellites even have antennas directing to space. Starlink was built for use on earth primarily.

@phuzz00 Ай бұрын

@@Deinorius They did use Starlink to link to the recent Starship test flight, but that was lower than the satellites. I guess at some point SpaceX will put a dish in/on a Dragon capsule to test it further up.

@sylfrear Ай бұрын

i work in a company that launches cubesats and we just had a radiation incident a week or so ago! can bus traffic to the power management board completely dead and watchdogs not triggered, radiation’s bad for the little dudes lol

@Reckless150681 Ай бұрын

@@Deinorius they have some sort of communication capability in space. I'm not sure off the top of my head what it is - but we know they're expected to be able to respond in case of collisions. Whether that can be repurposed for communication with Earth, I dunno

@jamescollins6085 Ай бұрын

Why don't they use Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators instead or in combination with solar? They could reliably generate hundreds of watts for decades.

@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын

It's hard to put a computer in space... unless you put it in a space bar.

@Mrpuggo0322 Ай бұрын

Bruh😂

@906 Ай бұрын

Why did the computer go to space? To get a byte of the Milky Way!

@NerdyThrowbackTech Ай бұрын

ba dum tss

@HXRDWIREDGaming Ай бұрын

god damnit. This joke was from is Dada-base.

@HXRDWIREDGaming Ай бұрын

@Harsh85114 This is 14 year old bait, if you click don't forget to report! :)

@JheregJAB Ай бұрын

This is a really cool video, about a topic I wouldn't have thought to investigate on my own. Super cool stuff.

@Halo_King19 Ай бұрын

This was so cool to see even though il never need to know or get to see this personally in space. Great job LTT team, amazing video as always.

@DavidKhabinsky Ай бұрын

The editors had way too much fun with the windows.

@robertaries2974 Ай бұрын

Oh yes 😂

@tomikun8057 Ай бұрын

i dont get it

@rolandegyed6695 Ай бұрын

@@tomikun8057Look at 10:59

@pu239 Ай бұрын

@@tomikun8057 11:00

@lemster101 Ай бұрын

@@tomikun8057 In the windows of the ISS replica you can see random things like animated UFOs flying by that the editors added in.

@mark_walet Ай бұрын

1:34 I like that Spaceborne 2 has the same naming scheme as New-New Whonnock

@natsukage3960 Ай бұрын

He did call it "New Spaceborn 2" xD

@emefcue Ай бұрын

Im very impressed with your reaearch done on this video regarding space. Well done!

@NickCharles 23 күн бұрын

This is by far one of the coolest videos I've seen in a long time. What a cool opportunity for the team to make this one!

@tpolarbeart Ай бұрын

This brings back memories when i was a test engineer at a satellite company. Nearly every circuit had a duplicate on the same chassis. Then they would put two of those in which is essentially 4 copies. They have to guarantee a satellite to work for 10-15 years without being able to repair it.

@B20C0 Ай бұрын

A friend of mine is a physicist who used to work at CERN and, as part of her job, assembled sensors for the particle collider. And despite the sensor's specific purpose being to measure the products of a collision, one of the issues they had to deal with was these particles causing bit flips and other issues when passing through the chips inside the sensors. So what she told me they did was to irradiate the chips before putting them in because this somehow increased protection from the effects of the particles passing through. Or better put less susceptible to damage. She tried to explain it to me what happens in detail but this was long ago and I didn't understand half of it, so I might be talking BS here. Though I wonder if NASA/ESA also do something similar to their chips. But I guess this would only be useful for heavier particles than gamma radiation, which I guess is the main problem in space. All that being said, computing in hostile environments is both very interesting and potentially very frustrating as entropy slaps you in the face.

@XanatosDavid Ай бұрын

Physicist here, you pre eradiate them to get those that are particularly susceptible to die before you put it into the heart of a machine you can only service every few years. The procedure does not make anything more resilient, just the surviving units are less likely to fail later on.

@B20C0 Ай бұрын

@@XanatosDavid Ah okay, that makes much more sense. Then I remembered it wrong. I just remembered something about irradiating chips and some presentation slides she sent me years ago. Though I looked through CERN's DB and found them, and you are completely right, it's just part of a testing campaign. In case you're interested (they mention "irradiation qualification of ASICs"): indico.cern.ch/event/774201/contributions/3429235/attachments/1875763/3088566/iWoRiDtalkDette2019.pdf Though since you're here and could provide some background knowledge: Since this is basically just testing/sorting chips, wouldn't this also make sense for any kind of ASIC/CPU/GPU NASA sends up there? Or do they do that already?

@B20C0 Ай бұрын

@@XanatosDavid Somehow my last response was deleted, probably because I linked to a PDF from the CERN document server with slides my friend sent me back when she told me about this. But thank you for explaining and of course you are completely right and I remembered it wrong, it was basically just done to sort out the chips that would be most affected by radiation. In the slides she sent me back then she called it "irradiation qualification". But since I have another physicist to ask now: Do you know if NASA performs similar tests with the computers they send up? Would make a lot of sense I guess. Oh and in case anyone wonders, the PDF can be found on the CERN document server, it has ID 2686279.

@azemaviator Ай бұрын

@@B20C0 One of the points of this project was to send off the shelf hardware. Most computers that have been sent up before are treated like so or custom made. The spaceborn project's whole point was "modern enterprise hardware has ECC built into every layer how would it work in space?"

@oggesiech Ай бұрын

Something like this is actually common practice for all industrial grade (and military and aerospace grade of course) electronics. Most component failures tend to occur early, so the parts undergo a stress test inside a climatic chamber, cycling through the temperature and humidity ranges the parts are specified for. It's called a "burn-in". This is of course expensive, but it's a lot less expensive than fixing a train stuck in some tunnel in the alps or a plane crashing.

@Midcon77 Ай бұрын

That was one of more interesting LTTs I've seen in a while - really cool seeing how commercial tech is making it's way into space. Would love to see more of this kind of content - like what compare what was used on the Space Shuttle (486 systems I believe towards the end?) vs. what's used in modern human transport systems (SpaceX Dragon, Boeing Starliner, etc.)

@JiajuChen Ай бұрын

Space is full of computers More like Space is full of ThinkPads...

@LaughingOrange Ай бұрын

Older computers work better in space, because they're less likely to bit-flip.

@user-zu6wg9wt8m Ай бұрын

@@LaughingOrange running arch linux on them makes you cool too

@furinick Ай бұрын

Thats a huge marketing hook lenovo can use but dont, apple would prob pay billions to show an imac in the iss under actual use

@SebiKoerner Ай бұрын

@@furinick Only that neither Apple nor NASA would ever attampt to send any Mac-Based system to space. Especially now when there's esentailly no way to swap the OS on Apple Silicon Macs. There is a lot of iPads on the ISS though. Both personal and scientific iPads to track data etc. Funny enough, it was Russia that started to ship iPads to the ISS as enterntainment devices to replace aging iPods in 2011. NASA has since adopted iPads as well though. Sometimes in Crew Dragon launches you can see iPads starpped to the Dragon Flight Suites.

@jdselders8010 Ай бұрын

They're actually HP Z Books, and they're old because certifying them for flight is an expensive endeavor, so NASA does a bulk lifetime buy of the laptops and spare parts all at once.

@NoobLord98 Ай бұрын

Ok, what happened to the real Linus? This guy at 1:57 is wearing shoes, not sandals

@aweisen1 Ай бұрын

Linus is a synth now

@WyattOShea Ай бұрын

@@aweisen1 I understood that reference.

@Steamrick Ай бұрын

He probably got told that only closed footwear is allowed on premises...

@martinh2783 Ай бұрын

Must be NASA regulations.

@trophywolfe Ай бұрын

It's ai generated obviously cause hes also not looking 35.

@JohnClarkGaming Ай бұрын

This is quickly becoming the topgear of tech

@ApfelJohannisbeere Ай бұрын

Thanks for the awesome information there!

@nodraw_ Ай бұрын

This video is genuinely so interesting! I appreciate the effort you guys went through and I hope to see more videos about industrial computers :)

@twiz66 Ай бұрын

I think they're actually called "New New New Spaceborn"

@nateinthenorth1999 Ай бұрын

Nintendo naming convention.

@Alex-zi1nb Ай бұрын

Spaceborn 2.0

@nateinthenorth1999 Ай бұрын

"New!" Spaceborn 2.0 3D

@Mavarius89 Ай бұрын

Please more space cpu stuff. Loved it and laughed hard at some facts. Thank you!

@erdrickk Ай бұрын

Great video, love these types of informative videos.

@sentinelx1055 Ай бұрын

Space? Space! Spaaaaaaaaaaaace!

@computingcapybara Ай бұрын

Space. Space. I love space, la la la, I’m in space. Star star, I like stars!

@Nyxes2000 Ай бұрын

Dad! I'm in space! I'm proud of you, son. Dad, are you space? Yes. Now we are a family again

@XRebelRenegadeX Ай бұрын

Space space wanna go to space yes please space. Space space. Go to space.

@SubZeroXJ Ай бұрын

Getting bored of space.

@thirteenthnile3536 Ай бұрын

That’s it? Just space? Where are the balls?

@nickallain Ай бұрын

Speaking as someone that helped put about 150 satellites into LEO, in my opinion, space hardening the hardware really only applies when you intend on a super long lifespan - which means you also have no reliable de-orbit plan (so you fully intend on being space debris). For something with a lifespan of under 10 years, you just need some redundant systems and really good error checking in your software. Software based hardening is 100% a thing and way cheaper.

@Waitwhat469 Ай бұрын

Always depends on the workload, but it is crazy how many workloads can fit in the Rancher SUSE "Cattle not pets" model for services where you build them to deploy as stateless as possible to allow for processes to spin up when needed to process data and crash with no loss if they go down. Again redundancy, plan for failures to happen, and then you can start to tighten your tolerances to save costs and not just to get it to work at all!

@LoganDark4357 Ай бұрын

I think I heard somewhere that you can have multiple identical CPUs executing in parallel, that way either you can detect errors and either recalculate that, reset, or if you have 3+ CPUs then you can fix one using the others.

@AGuyWhoWantAUsername Ай бұрын

@@LoganDark4357 You might be referring to a TMR (Triple Modular Redundancy) technique.

@LoganDark4357 Ай бұрын

@@AGuyWhoWantAUsernameI didn't know that had a name . yes!!!!!!

@SPeeSimon Ай бұрын

Or when human lives depend on it. When a satellite mailfunctions you scream, write it off and send a new one. When a person dies you have a lot more questions and issues to deal with. During the "space race" it was kind of a war with russia and some lives lost were acceptable. That's not the case anymore. That's why things are over engineered and thorougly tested. Because there is no triple a or plumber in space.

@kytechnelson Ай бұрын

Having just wrapped up my Master's thesis, which dealt with working within the constraints of edge compute systems for AI in space deployments, this was great timing and a very enjoyable video. Great work on really putting into perspective the constraints one has to work within when dealing with computer systems in space. The university I attended has a lot of projects under NASA funding, so its always nice to hear that NASA's big ISS projects have to deal with many of the same sorts of constraints that we have to put up with on our smaller space platforms.

@matthiasmartin4355 Ай бұрын

This was super interesting. Thanks for sharing.

@Fatal_Inertia Ай бұрын

See THIS is my type of content. Please do more space computer stuff. Hubble control center next? Or maybe an observatory computer?

@patiolunch Ай бұрын

i like these educational style vids more than tech reviews

@griffenstephenson13 Ай бұрын

This was so interesting, love videos like this

@jamesbrinkler Ай бұрын

This was an amazing video, more space stuff when you can please!

@Lord_zeel Ай бұрын

I legit said "why not use Starlink?" right before he mentions it. I suspect there may be some technical issues with that though? I doubt they could just send a Starlink dish up there and plug a laptop into it.

@seanlacroix Ай бұрын

Why wouldn’t they. Space x sends supplies and tons of stuff up to them already.

@Kazuhamino Ай бұрын

I'm assuming theres a power limit issue. As well as they just havent designed the receiver side dishes to actually survive in space. I'm guessing at some point they might intend on bringing the ISS back and sending up one thats much more efficient and modern. 1985 was a long time ago in computer terms and they probably have been pushing the absolute limits as it was for the laptops they had.

@enigmabey Ай бұрын

I’m gonna go ahead and guess security. Even if NASA is actively collaborating with SpaceX, ISS is a multinational project and not everyone may consent to send their data through a US based private organization

@CallOfCutie69 Ай бұрын

Starlink’s AESA dish uses a lot of energy, that is reflected in electricity bills of the earthly users, too.

@RandomTheories Ай бұрын

Well, for one, the Starlink satelites are facing down to earth at a orbit of around 150km, the ISS is at about 400km above, so they would send the signal only at back of the satelite

@Mezinov Ай бұрын

The company I work for used to make a peristaltic pump for experiments on the space shuttles. It was made to be smaller, lighter, and more energy efficient than any other pump we made at the time and had to be dumb enough not to rely on anything that radiation could kill.

@Gromaul Ай бұрын

Dunno why, but even though I am subscribed I haven't been seeing your videos in my feed recently. Glad I clicked your channel on my subscribers this is a neat vid!

@dan110024 Ай бұрын

Love these different but interesting videos!

@JeremyMcMahan Ай бұрын

That a great video. Enjoyed all the nerding-out. Thanks!

@vladimircicmanec6103 Ай бұрын

This is a helluva interesting watch, fantastic

@RobertoCarvalho-0 Ай бұрын

I loved the type to content. Im looking forward something with The sphere through :)

@streetmp Ай бұрын

One of my favorite videos you’ve done.

@SolarpunkMonk Ай бұрын

Great episode Linus, love the theme, would love to see more odd and unique case situations like this! Maybe power plants? Research centres?

@russellneal1263 Ай бұрын

More content like this please? Love the historical and scientific based educational type stuff

@MrTiger-ud7jc Ай бұрын

Amazing vid guys wow really enjoyed watching!!!

@therealherbzy Ай бұрын

This is so cool. Please do more space stuff.

@wileymonair Ай бұрын

I want to see more space tech coverage!!! PLEASE!!!

@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын

Awesome video! Very well explained.

@madman8683 Ай бұрын

Awesome Video man!

@Emelin-cr8nc Ай бұрын

that picture of an alien got me laughing 😭😭😭

@freshcoastdrifttracks6074 Ай бұрын

I started working for a aerospace company last year, i was amazed at how much effort it takes to make a computer work in space!

@RS-ls7mm Ай бұрын

LEO is pretty easy, below the Van Allen belts. Even laptops work there. GEO is much more fun. Pretty rare to find a processor that works there. I had to design my own but that was 30 years ago.

@wintlink Ай бұрын

That’s amazing ! Very interesting content

@ktrainer2885 Ай бұрын

This was an awesome video. Saying hi from NASA JPSS Program here. I hope to see more videos like this!

@hoofhearted4 Ай бұрын

That scene from MSB of Arnold taking his helmet off on Pluto, lives rent free in my head. one of these few episodes I ever actually saw (was probably with school tbh)

@bromine_35 Ай бұрын

Now they can edge in space

@QBDLettuce Ай бұрын

Very cool video and cool information. Thanks for the content.

@charliebeij5181 Ай бұрын

Love videos like this, very interesting!

@kuunib7325 Ай бұрын

This is really cool. Stating the obvios but I like learning about tech and space and engineering. So this really hits the spot.

@ayanahmed8180 Ай бұрын

this video had 2 of my favorite things. Space and Computers.

@Treetrytrey Ай бұрын

Linus is the type of person to put a computer in space and play Minecraft

@artamereenshort6610 Ай бұрын

A very nice episode. More like this one

@JohnHessGA Ай бұрын

Fantastic video!!

@guaiqueritech Ай бұрын

This puts into perspective the fact that the Voyager probe was so well built that it still works, despite all the cons mentioned in this video. Impressive

@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын

far less capable though too. but those are the kinds of decisions and tradeoffs that have to be made with each specific mission.

@catlife2 Ай бұрын

Linus is evolving from making videos about cables to making videos about computers on iss💀

@MrHankHill Ай бұрын

Can’t believe Linus went to the ISS and invented artificial gravity for this video.

@Nimrod336 Ай бұрын

I have been asking for years how do computers run in space. Thank you. I finally get to see a video on it.

@arisakathedappergoose4796 Ай бұрын

but can it run Crysis?

@DanielKirillov-iv3ww Ай бұрын

Deep Frysis

@tvdootman27 25 күн бұрын

Nope

@tylerdean980 Ай бұрын

A silicon graphics neofetch? Give me the dots, now

@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын

yes, the original Spaceborne was started and designed by SGI right as HPE acquired SGI. But was completed and launched after the merger.

@Snowmirage6453 Ай бұрын

This was totally awesome!

@Tiwill0V2 Ай бұрын

damn that floating linus was really well done, had me question my sanity for a sec lmao kudos to the editor who did it!

@BriefNerdOriginal Ай бұрын

Enterprise Drives: the new Star Trek frontier 🖖

@SpicerJack Ай бұрын

The U.S. government has outsourced everything to private contractors who use research from public colleges and universities, and actual NASA is looking like some kind of retro future aesthetic using off the shelf server parts.

@ZaPpaul Ай бұрын

NASA isn't a government agency.

@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын

the private sector computers are far more advanced than anything the gov has developed. Making modern computers is not easy, and the US gov doesn't have the people, nor the equipment, nor the innovation to do it themselves. And if they did, without having volumes to sell, it would be ridiculously expensive for a single computer.

@wereoctopus Ай бұрын

NASA has *always* outsourced a ton of stuff to private contractors. e.g. take the Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC). The MIT Instrumentation Laboratory designed the computer's hardware, OS and UI. Raytheon did the manufacturing. Fairchild Semiconductor pioneered the first mass-producible ICs in 1960, and the AGC was the first computer to use them. Of course these were still primitive-one flatpack chip roughly 20mm² might contain two 3-input NOR gates, for a total of 6 transistors. The AGC's memory was even wilder. Its RAM was magnetic core memory (typical for the time) but its ROM was core rope memory. The AGC had 6 core rope modules. Each contained 512 iron/nickel cores (donuts 0.249" in diameter, about 6.3mm) and 192 "sense" wires. For every core, each sense wire either threaded through it (representing 1) or around it (representing 0). Cores had additional wires for address selection and reading out. All of this threading was done by hand-Raytheon had a factory full of needleworkers threading data into the ROM, bit by bit. They did this because even though core rope memory was incredibly labour-intensive to make, it had unparalleled information density, about 5× that of the magnetic core memory used as RAM. When going into space, mass and volume are paramount. It also happens to be resilient to bit-flips ;)

@tomascerezo8163 Ай бұрын

This was an awesome video! Top tier Ltt

@Erranteumbra Ай бұрын

I appreciate the dad joke to make fun of Linus’ dad joke by the editor at 12:25

@blancobull Ай бұрын

Linus, you're HUGE(ish) in Japan.

@brandonm750 Ай бұрын

Idk if you've done a video on Mars rovers or their computers (a quick KZfaq search suggests not 🤷‍♂️) but the radiation hardening required for those sattelites and computers that go beyond LEO are insane. For instance, the Perseverance rover launched in 2020 has the equivalent of a late-90s PowerPC Mac CPU. The ISS and other LEO sattelites don't need this because they are below the Van Allen radiation belts that capture most of the sun's harmful radiation. On another note, I don't think the wider public realizes how difficult it can be to change hardware out in space. Every spacewalk takes multiple hours and you only get half of the work done that you could here on the ground. And every upgrade (like adding Starlink antennas) would require a spacewalk. The work that goes into computers and equipment that goes into space is amazing. Awesome video, love that you could work with NASA and bring light to a wider audience the awesome things they do. 😁👍