As a noob when it comes to networking/server/ all this kind of stuff. Feel like we could use a total "switch your life to local" video showing how to set up a local video streaming library and storage system to get rid of subscriptions
@randombanter75534 ай бұрын
Same
@j3sion4 ай бұрын
Can't wait 😊
@williambrasky38914 ай бұрын
Excellent idea.
@fashionablefrog58134 ай бұрын
bump
@dimmahund4 ай бұрын
Props for the idea
@TheMorrowgamer4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the best parts... The Wiki page for the CM3588 has PCB CAD files, including PCB layout, and a STEP file for the board which would make printing a case for this thing a breeze!
@HairyStuntWaffle4 ай бұрын
I would be AMAZED if there was not a dozen already out there. it looks iro mini ITX?
@TurinAlexander4 ай бұрын
Is that really the best part? I know all the 3D printing people out there will love it, but despite what those people think, 3D printing is incredibly niche. Even for people that watch this sort of content.
@TheMorrowgamer4 ай бұрын
@@TurinAlexander Most people who would be buying this thing probably are enthusiasts, and either have or have access to a printer.
@LoFiAxolotl4 ай бұрын
@@TurinAlexander most public libraries these days have 3d printers that you can use, not the most convenient way.... but if you don't have a printer and want something printed... it's usually free or has a very very small fee
@astronemir4 ай бұрын
@@TurinAlexander because it exists that means you can order a printed case.
@taquocviet4 ай бұрын
Producer: how many sponsors do you want in the video? Linus: Yes.
@Dailydose10114 ай бұрын
Best comment fr😂
@EpikGamerYT4 ай бұрын
All LTT is these days is a 50% video and 50% sales pitches... I can watch normal TV if i want to see this many ads thanks...
@joesalz99634 ай бұрын
That's why I stopped watching his videos. Like just one long ad masked as a technical how-to video. Only reason I stumbled upon this is because I was looking for a cheap, small NAS that wasn't a raspberry pi since the pi5 isn't that cheap anymore. There is also click bait/misleading. The description say "This tiny computer is so small it can fit in your pocket and have over 30TB of SSD Storage. For under $100 you can have a powerful ARM based board to call youre own!" then in the video they end up with 11TB and says it cost $165 just for one of NVMe drives alone! LMAO
@mykeride4 ай бұрын
@@joesalz9963 Heh, and today, 2 weeks after it posted, following the link in the description for the NVME drives takes me to an Amazon page selling them for $226 each. So while the end of the video shows this rig as outfitted as costing $825, if you buy everything using LTT's very links today, it will cost $1,093 (the 16GB RAM option on FriendlyElec went up as well, and LTT didn't include the cost for a power supply).
@EpikGamerYT4 ай бұрын
@@joesalz9963 100% agree man, this is the same reason i found the video and was so disappointed when i came back after not watching for a year ish... it has gotten even worse over time!
@3Toy4 ай бұрын
Detailed tutorials on how to set up such systems will be very appreciated !
4 ай бұрын
With me maintaining support for Rockchip SoCs in the mainline Linux Kernel for a bit over 10 years now, it's really nice to see a Rockchip SoC in the "mainstream" media ;-)
@HagobSaldadianSmeik4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@FAKEAXIS4 ай бұрын
Doing gods work sir, having alternatives to Broadcom raspberry pi’s have been a god send for me
@nyanmisaka4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your persistence. The RK3588 is definitely a game changer in the Arm based SBC world after the aging RK3399, considering that the broadcom chip on RPi5 is standing still.
@foxxyytofficial4 ай бұрын
Wish more people helped with the Orange Pi, they use both Rockchip and Allwinner, also good options for a possible NAS
@SambitBiswas4 ай бұрын
Thank u m8!
@moxieman24524 ай бұрын
I appreciate the BMW iDrive joke
@john-wx7gr4 ай бұрын
same dude
@barongogenzoler43004 ай бұрын
Dunno how about Americans, but in EU it's not a joke actually.
@Suchtzocker4 ай бұрын
@@barongogenzoler4300 its a sarcastic joke, in EU also ... BMW is expensive all around the world ... thats what they where joking over ...
@HaraldBergTechTv4 ай бұрын
Yes they are expensive to buy and expensive to maintain 😢 I know since I drive one
@barongogenzoler43004 ай бұрын
@@Suchtzocker, in the US 330i is less than the average annual take-home. In the EU it's nominally far more expensive and take-home is much lover. It means the average postgrad with few years of experience can't afford a lease. PPP in reality.
@TheEvertw4 ай бұрын
There is one reason why you still need off-site storage: to protect against fire and burglary. If you could make an arrangement with a friend, preferably in another city, to exchange data you'd be sorted.
@firstname-qq3xp4 ай бұрын
or a lock box storage.
@brianh.000Ай бұрын
Which is why he mentions the "3-2-1" strategy--3 copies of data, 2 different types of media, at least 1 offsite copy.
@HectorLugo9 сағат бұрын
@@TheEvertw in another city even? You worried about a nuke?
@TheEvertw8 сағат бұрын
@@HectorLugo At least my data will be secure!
@quintonstevens4 ай бұрын
Only issue with pricing is with the "need a third copy off site" you're sort of back to page one with needing to pay a subscription fee for the redundant copy in the cloud if you don't have someone willing to let you host a duplicate of this setup in their house somewhere else for free.
@andrewlalis16 күн бұрын
maybe it would be worth it to set up a mutual backup partnership with someone else; store their encrypted backup files on your NAS, and they let you store your encrypted backups on theirs. All data is safe, and it's a win-win.
@benjaminschutz7274 ай бұрын
The brilliance of sponsoring server space when talking about how to run your own cloud server
@BillAnt4 ай бұрын
While it's cool, it doesn't sync everything like iCloud does, including contacts, messages, settings and apps/data. I'm not an iPhone guy, but I have to give Apple credit for their truly 100% backups, no Android does a 100% backup. The only other way to do it is pulling a manual backup locally via iTunes.
@focusandroid27834 ай бұрын
Everything you mentioned can be backed up on modern Android phones. Its just that some apps choose to opt-out of full backup. And not all settings can be transferred between different android operating systems.
@bubbledoubletrouble4 ай бұрын
@@BillAnt The average person's storage usage is mostly media. With that out of the picture, the 50 GB 99¢/mo tier or maybe even the 5 GB free tier become significantly more workable.
@forresthopkinsa4 ай бұрын
You still need an off-site backup
@c1hd7464 ай бұрын
Who says you have to stop using icloud
@WilliamHaisch4 ай бұрын
I see what Elijah is doing… by subconsciously demonstrating that he can “wear many different hats” he is maneuvering himself into a generous raise because he literally “wears many different hats”! We can all learn some next level shizz from the 4D chess master, Elijah! 😂
@bahamut85914 ай бұрын
he really should just wear the helmet
@MarkReddington4 ай бұрын
this has gotta be part of their april fools video. they've been hiding things in their recent videos...
@GizmoFromPizmo4 ай бұрын
Oh, I thought he was signalling that he's transitioning.
@thejunkman4 ай бұрын
That was a hell of a make a wish request.
@jayo86214 ай бұрын
ok "William" ... Nice fake name Elijah.. maybe you can make a video on how to make fake youtube hbots that hype you up to get raises at work.. that would be useful
@technowey3 ай бұрын
I was happy to see Linus mention the 321 rule and offsite backup. The solution in this video is good for my phone data. I want my really important data backed up both locally and offsite, in case my house burns down.
@thepokerus41844 ай бұрын
I am a Networking Desktop engineer, for context: Great video! very useful and practical, but for certain clientele. This is great for people who need massive storage, this will save so much $$$. However, for the average user family who only needs to back up pictures, 1tb per person (total 6 users) at $99yr, with office 365 included, hard to beat. Which is why even though I have NAS at home, its only private, not public, not worth it yet. Maybe in the future. This set up isn't for the average user but still amazing to see how compatible it is with many third party apps and powerful the device is while being very affordable.
@MartinKovacik3 ай бұрын
Indeed ... also a professional cloud service solves e.g. the high availability/storage redundancy topic for you so if a regular user should setup 2 of those, operating the 2nd one in an offsite location with (appropriately fast) internet connection and backup and/or continuous sync job in place ... not to mention the configuration effort, keeping updates/security, etc. it might really just be more efficient to purchase a cloud account. I myself operate 2 NASes with RAID at 2 locations and following a proper HW lifecycle I already calculated that a cloud offering would be more efficient for me. So I just do it myself because I like it as an IT nerd 🥰 and that's why I am looking forward to getting my hands on this toy as well 😅😍.
@prop19yes3 ай бұрын
Why continue to pay month by month for a service, when its cheaper to build your own nas, not to mention you have full control over it. Don't need internet access and such, what if you decide you are done paying for storage and you want your files back,well then you still need drives to put this on. So better off just building the nas from the get go.
@thepokerus41843 ай бұрын
@@prop19yes Again, not every user is going to be able to build this and this is not for everyone. You are assuming everyone can do this, they can't. If they could, I would not have a Job in IT 🤔 Also you are going to have to update & replace hardware overtime and failure, use up electricity and some 3rd part apps for NAS do have a cost. So yes, even CapEX and OPEX apply here. Not only companies move away from on premises while some stay, individual users do as well per their needs and evaluations. Not complicated to understand.
@zeal5143 ай бұрын
imo, we are headed toward a world where ppl have a home server that serves as a NAS, and runs all your apps. We gotta move away from the subscription model where every big company is fighting for a small sliver of everyones money, than has unlimited power in terms of laws over the virtual world.
@thepokerus41843 ай бұрын
@@MartinKovacik thats awesome man, and you took into account something very important that many will not: hardware life cycle. This cost is miss by some thinking this set will be upfront cost only (CapEx) but they forget about maintenance and support. And yeah this is a perfect solution for many already over paying for Cloud/NAS service. Glad this has been working for you :D I also set up a Small NAS this year for local use only, and love it.
@r0galik4 ай бұрын
Great video, finally a large channel showing people that a NAS is not some black box with black magic inside, but something quite simple. And that currently ARM boards can be used for it pretty comfortably. I've been running a NAS powered by a raspberry pi 4 for over 2 years and it never failed (knock knock)
@CJonestheSteam724 ай бұрын
I am not sure why I would want the featured device over a Raspberry pi tbh especially at the spec they went for
@Ornithopter4704 ай бұрын
@@CJonestheSteam72 the top end model is significantly more performant than a pi 5, and for not much more money. It's also got much, much better I/O.
@r0galik4 ай бұрын
@@CJonestheSteam72 raspberry pis are a bit expensive, underpowered and have very little IO
@ParkerRobertsFilms4 ай бұрын
(who's there?)
@cronchcrunch4 ай бұрын
@@r0galikknock knock
@GoPotato694 ай бұрын
ngl this is one of the best ltt videos this year, short, to the point, funny bits, and affordable tech/solutions
@fuelvolts4 ай бұрын
“Affordable” in that the 4TB drives are $180 each! This thing as configured by Linus is nearly $1000. I realize you can use 2TB drives but it would still be about $600 that way. That’s a lot of hassle and nearly 5 years of cloud storage.
@GoPotato694 ай бұрын
@@fuelvolts i mean im sure in the future there prob will be sata versions of this or even buy some cheap adapters, and even so u can get some cheap m2 ssd's now, ofc prices have been going back up but u can def get some deals. Ofc if ur going budget u could just plug a USB external hard drive into your router or get a bunch of refurb hard drives but the software pointed out for mobile is def a new addition to my life
@LinusTechTips4 ай бұрын
You could also use cheap m.2 to sata adapters and not use SSDs at all.
@youtubear02xdax4 ай бұрын
@@fuelvolts1. 16TB cloud storage cost 6usd/TB (Backblaze B2), making it 1000 bucks a year. Apple iCloud cost 60usd x12 = 700usd a year. 2. All your data is being actively scanned and removed on DCMA request, should you upload licensed media such as movies, songs and try to share them to other people. 3. If they were to loose your data (happened with google before), they hold 0 liability. 0 responsibility. It’s written in the the small text when you sign up for the service… Sure, if you only need 2TB, then a iCloud for 5usd/month is totally fine. But a 2TB SSD can be bought new for 60usd as well…
@Jonn0_4 ай бұрын
@@fuelvolts that price is for fast storage, as mentioned in the video, just run 3.5" drives and pay less then 1/4 of the price. pretty sure you can get 12TB drives for under 200. for NVME storage, 180 for 4TB IS affordable. even at these slower speeds (compared to gen 4/5 etc) youve still got the convenience of 1. less likely for a physical failure (in terms of the HDD dying etc) and 2. way smaller / quieter. a couple 3.5" drives will be bigger than the entire PCB. I've got my old PC converted to a NAS, also using openmedia, and it works great
@RottweilerPerformance3 ай бұрын
We saved $14 doing this trick. Thank you! That being said we spent $783 of our own time sourcing the parts, learning how to do it and setting it all up...
@tekchip3 ай бұрын
Telling that you feel $783 is a large investment. Don't go total most people's outlay for streaming services and cloud storage over the years. You might be disappointed. Also it's not like the time and effort doesn't come with the added value of knowing some stuff that could make you dough later. Linux, network, storage, etc still pay fairly well. Not to mention building and selling these rigs to friends and family when they see how well yours works. Sounds like a solid value to me.
@Cronanius2 ай бұрын
I saved a few pennies in undergrad by going full-on open-source DIY, and doing things like this. Maybe my life would've been simpler if I'd just gotten a part-time job with all that time and paid big companies to replace that. But you know what? I graduated with a degree in a non-techie profession, and a giant stack of niche tech knowledge on the side; and it's that knowledge that landed me one of the best jobs in my entire industry, where I get to do more or less whatever I want, and set my own exhorbitant hourly rates because I'm one of the very, very few individuals who has this set of knowledge in addition to my professional degree. Turns out this kind of enthusiast knowledge pays big, fat dividends if you have enough of it and some other, complimentary skillset.
@shameless_22 ай бұрын
And there you have it, you actually learned something ;p
@woodhousii24452 ай бұрын
You saved only 14$ if you bought cloud storage for a single month. This isn't meant for the people who don't need/only just bought cloud storage.
@satvikrajnarayanan14882 ай бұрын
I used a raspberry pi and 2 2TB SSD drives with a custom made water + fan cooling system and I got it under 250$ Raspberry pi 4 2gb ram - RS 7000 - 80$ 2x 2TB SSD - RS 10000 (RS 5000 each) - 119$ Custom made cooling system - RS250 - 3$ Others(cat6 wire, power supply, etc) - RS 100 - 1.5$ Total: 203.5 ~ 205$ or RS 20050 RS --> INR
@JohnCastleSmokeless4 ай бұрын
Y'know, Linus... _not_ paying for cloud storage is, ethically, in the same ethical stratum as ad-blocking. People ad-block for _every one of the reasons_ you advocate for user-controlled on-site NAS storage. 1. User data security, or, privacy 2. Anti-malware best practice 3. Frugality.
@TheJCEguy4 ай бұрын
Elijah chaning hats every frame was comedy gold! 😆
@1yugiohtrader4 ай бұрын
I suspect he need to wear all those hats in order to claim them as a tax write off
@that_jason_black4 ай бұрын
He's that hat guy now. lol
@SpaceJazz3K4 ай бұрын
@@1yugiohtraderso Elijah goes by them eh?
@specodhec3414 ай бұрын
Just a burning memory
@KibitoAkuya4 ай бұрын
The typo made me imagine him with a fedora schizoposting on a chan board idk why
@Schatten.mensch4 ай бұрын
Looks like you murdered the elec website ^^
@brainwater4 ай бұрын
They got slashdotted
@ThunderClapLP4 ай бұрын
jup, still down
@rohscx4 ай бұрын
Yep
@hocek114 ай бұрын
Oh maaaan...
@ranjitthind4404 ай бұрын
Still down😅
@josemedeiros007Ай бұрын
Great job on the video and information Linus! Cloud storage is still good for a offsite backup, unless you have a fire safe to keep your external backup drives in and rotate them often.
@UltimateAnarchyАй бұрын
Uhhh nope. The reason most of us use the cloud is because it is not at home. If my house is burglarized, is destroyed by fire, tornado, hurricane, flooding, etc., a NAS would be gone. Incidentally, I use a NAS but it is backed up... to the cloud.
@insnprsn10 күн бұрын
Which is why they recommended a proper backup routine, which you should still have if using the cloud.
@kwongheng6 күн бұрын
@@insnprsn But this means you need to make a backup and then put that backup into a off-site location. And bring it back again to update the backup and remember to do that regularly. It becomes a job, just to save money.
@DanielIkpeama3 күн бұрын
@@kwongheng fair, though you could always set the backup up at a tech illiterate (or trusted tech literate) friend/family member's house. You could even offer that in return, they can have 1TB of free cloud storage.
@jamesc35052 күн бұрын
TBH, I think the reason most people use the cloud is because it gets automatically set up on their computer. Not that you give bad reasons though. Personally, I use a NAS and crossed fingers.
@LittIegator4 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see a video on tips for setting up a 3-2-1 backup solution. If this video covers my NAS, what do I build for on-site backup? What do I build for off-site backup? Any tips for places to put off-site backup other than "parents' house" or "friend's house?"
@nephatrine4 ай бұрын
Yeah this is the issue. I back up my local backups to google cloud just because I don't have my own "offsite" location I can stand up another storage server. Maybe a video on colocation services and things like that would be handy.
@tonTeufel4 ай бұрын
It's not automatic, but your office works. Have an encrypted external SSD that you load your backup on once a month and store it in your locker/ locked desk drawer at work.
@mateuszzimon82164 ай бұрын
@@nephatrine yes, I also use Google but I package in some compression packages with encryption.
@CanIHasThisName4 ай бұрын
I don't know if a video could be useful, because it's more of a debate rather than a simple topic they could cover. How much data are you backing up? Do you need all of it backed up? Do you REALLY need all of it backed up? What is available to you? What's your threshold for maximum inconvenience? Some people don't want to hear it, but there's nothing wrong with using cloud for off-site storage, as long as the limitations aren't too limiting for your use case. For use-cases like photos, having them in your phone, backing up to cloud and periodically storing them on your PC fulfills 3-2-1, with the added advantage that you're always carrying one of the devices with you, and the off-site storage can be accessed wherever you can get an internet connection. And with photos, it's unlikely you will need more than one of the cheap basic tiers which cost something like 1-5$ a month.
@Leo9ine4 ай бұрын
For cold archives - Encrypt and compress, dump it to Backblaze, they'll mail you a hard drive. For rolling backups... I haven't figured that out yet :/ But I think NextCloud may be the solution.
@stijncelerier95634 ай бұрын
When every tech youtuber is launching Ugreen nas videos. Ltt does this, love it.
@artemisfowl1274 ай бұрын
Literally was contemplating buying ugreen's $500 nvme device, but not anymore thankyou linus. But sadly the built in storage options are out of stock so I'll be waiting to buy then.
@ClintonHuynh4 ай бұрын
@@artemisfowl127Depends, UGreen's solution is out of box ready that I would recommend someone's mom to get if they need one in the house. LTT's solution is a tinkerer's solution where it doesn't even come in a box to house the chip in.
@faizanbaber4 ай бұрын
Exactly
@littlebit6704 ай бұрын
If you don’t want the DIY then the UGreen NASync (or even another solution like the Synology DiskStation) would work. If you’re ok with the DIY and the cost of all-flash, then the FriendlyElec is for you.
@JanuszKrysztofiak2 ай бұрын
It depends. Own thing means one has to spend time to manage it, maintain it and take care of backups (SSDs typically fail without prior warning) and so on. Something one does not want to do in the long run. There is also a matter of power outages.
@Turdswamp1Ай бұрын
Couldnt you run a backup power supply regarding this to circumvent the outages? And regarding SSDs totally get you there.
@VampyrumFerox4 ай бұрын
so you started off saying it was $95, but then your setup was over $1500.
@MrPgunna4 ай бұрын
"We didn't want to buy the cheapest storage option, so we purchased 4 4TB NVME drives at $160 each." OK... Cool....
@Awytoo4 ай бұрын
They got ya! 😂 Clickbait style
@MyAdonisDNA4 ай бұрын
Yeah as soon as I saw this video I thought it was stupid. Even with one 2 tb m.2 drive it'd be about 200 dollars total so you're looking at 2 years as a break even. Plus you are giving up the biggest benifets of cloud storage by hosting yourself. Clloud storage will be off-site and have some redundancy.
@benwilliams73824 ай бұрын
I think that's a little harsh considering. I agree that some of the benefits of cloud storage are not present, but I think the comparison of Nas to Nas between "all-in-one" enclosures Vs this do it yourself method yields some cost reductions. You definitely get some redundancy using raid, and you don't have to go nvme or a full 4*4tb system, you can scale to meet your needs
@MatzWerk4 ай бұрын
Think at least just a little bit! The Hardware is great, and for the Video sake and clicks they added some m.2s so what? Take a freaking m.2 to sata adapter and put your old hraddrives on it. Are you all that uninspired to pick your own fraking conclusion out of the video?
@smadayeoj4 ай бұрын
4:00 building a 20-HD NAS sounds like a video idea of its own.
@gregdaweson46574 ай бұрын
They already did it.
@marcelovictor30314 ай бұрын
@@gregdaweson4657 where´s the link?
@TheGreatJafa4 ай бұрын
First tech upgrade, then home improvement for Linus, and finally NAS setups? You could say Elijah is a.... many of many hats .... in this video
@michaelwoods17452 ай бұрын
This is pointless for most people, especially if it's mainly photos you're using the cloud storage for. For as long as i can remember, i pay £40-50 a year for Microsoft 365, that gets me 5 or 6 accounts with 2TB of storage each. No need to manage anything, no hardware to upgrade, and no failed hardware to replace. The only potential downside is that you have no local access, although a doubt there's many people that get stuck without any sort of internet access these days.
@etcetc38004 ай бұрын
Just a nas is not enough if you want to replace cloud storage. You need to have off site back up in case of fire flooding or another disaster. So it does end up costing a lot initially
@LKN1174 ай бұрын
These are my favorite type of tech video. Showing off a practical application of niche hardware that I never would have known about otherwise. I genuinely think I'm going to order one and copy this setup.
@robertwilsoniii20484 ай бұрын
There's a subtle difference though, you're reaponsible for your own data now. You store on fhe cloud and it's their problem, ans they'll damn sure use redundancy to have several bavkups ready in cases of disasters. If you pay for redundancy thw cloud storags is a decent option, not for 2tb, but for 250gb it's fine. Probably best to diversify storage and backups to tolerate risks and hardware failures and balance costs.
@halomika49734 ай бұрын
@@robertwilsoniii2048 I dunno abt you, but I prefer taking responsibility over my own data as compared to paying boatloads of money.
@m33r614 ай бұрын
@@halomika4973and also, even if the cloud provider some how loses your data, theyll just get slap on the wrist and youll get 10 bucks in a class action
@johndurrett35734 ай бұрын
@@robertwilsoniii2048 Double your investment and have two NAS servers - place them in different rooms under different breakers. Make one primary and backing up to secondary. Your PERSONAL data is not in the hands of a 3rd party which shifts is privacy and protection policy every 3 months. Major Corps are going to run you thru multiple ai phone menus's that will hide putting you in touch with a LIVE person. So they can have you running in circles for months or years trying to get your data back. Just take responsibility for your own Data.
@JQ_Unity4 ай бұрын
@@robertwilsoniii2048just set it up in RAID. Double or triple redundancy based on the drives used.
@LinusLegoTech4 ай бұрын
7:38 Linus must be proud of Elijah💪
@criticalthinker4203 ай бұрын
Yes, now we can store enough pictures to look at one picture every second of every day 24/7 for about six months, finally.
@timpenner78584 ай бұрын
I really dig the way the budget for a marvelous personal NAS starts out at $100, but the thing we're talking about slides up to several hundred once you add STORAGE - of all things.
@onegreenev2 ай бұрын
I know of no NAS system that is cheap with storage. Im looking for something exactly like this for my large storage needs. I’d like to see one with 8 slots and 64g ram. It will be public. I do 4K and 8K video and need the storage while I compile clips.
@stevenjames70824 ай бұрын
That Intro !!!! The hat swaps The BMW joke . Top tier
@mikehartdesign4 ай бұрын
'no dad, my generation cant afford BMW's' watching LS lip sync will never get old
@Zyo1174 ай бұрын
Omg, didn't see it the first time 😂
@seanlacroix4 ай бұрын
It's dumb because Jake has a couple of BMW's
@HumbertoHernandez4 ай бұрын
I thought he said "my generation can't afford be all Ws (winners)" This makes more sense I guess haha.
@servissop1514 ай бұрын
@@seanlacroix The one I know of (M5 E60) is going on 20 years old at this point, and he's a car guy, so he's willing to spend a higher percentage on his income on cars, which most people don't want to
@Xenoray14 ай бұрын
@@servissop151funny enough my dad just bought a e60 (not m5) for under 3k with gas mod ^^
@schmirgo4 ай бұрын
Intel celeron J4125 Mainboard with CPU with 16gb of RAM costs about $150. It has a PCIe port and 4 SATA ports and consumes 10 watts. Also it's Intel x64 and has VTd, etc. for virtualization and is not some ARM.
@Rigel_Chiokis4 ай бұрын
An interesting video and very reminiscent of the days before the public had access to the internet. In businesses, we had magetic tape drives for backing up the hard disk drives and at home it was either a secondary HD drive or a big box of floppy disks. But, this device wouldn't be cost effective for me. I only pay $1.49 per month for 50 GB of storage and I don't use more than maybe 4 GB of that. Mainly because I don't store my photos there, I back them up to a har disk in the PC.
@ashes71944 ай бұрын
You HAVE to do a full runtime tutorial on this!! I haven't got this invested in a tech piece for such a long time
@jasonstewart584 ай бұрын
Best intro ever. Please do more like intros like this. The only problem I'm having with my NAS is that my work blocks remote access to my NAS at home from the office. Google and Microsoft cloud storages aren't blocked.
@Eli-zb2yj4 ай бұрын
But what about their sponsor ?
@St0rMsk4 ай бұрын
Agree, Intro was bitchin or what ever young people say these days
@hoofhearted44 ай бұрын
thats just bad practice on your business though tbh. most companies block Google and One Drive that isnt related to them.
@Jesus-father4 ай бұрын
just create a reverse proxy and voila
@slaterehm84484 ай бұрын
Look into Noip and a home router with a vpn. You can use this to tunnel back into your network without port forwarding.
@clerian4 ай бұрын
pCloud offers 10TB of cloud storage with a one time lifetime subscription for around $1100, which is honestly pretty competitive with this offering, although likely not as fast as when you're on LAN. Not saying it's a replacement for a NAS, but it could be an "affordable" option (after 2 years given current cloud storage costs) for your offsite storage option.
@angrytrader3783Ай бұрын
The thing is having local storage is fine for production but unless you want significant risk of complete and total data loss, you need off site storage and it should be geographically in a different location. House fires happen all the time. It happened to me when i was not home and the damage by the fire department was extensive and they gave no thought to smashing up electronic equipment and throwing water on it. If I had not had off site storage I would have literally lost everything. A local NAS is great. But it isnt any kind of real backup for people that have years or decades of work to protect.
@lifeinhd40534 ай бұрын
The problem, as briefly mentioned in the video, is the 3-2-1 rule, which stipulates that one copy of your data must be kept offsite. Cloud storage solves this, whereas your own NAS (kept at home) does not. I suppose you could keep it at a friend's house, but then you'd also have to ask them to poke holes in their firewall which they may be unwilling (or unable) to do. There are also the value-adds for "official" cloud services, such as easy document sharing with others, full device backup, iCloud Relay, Hide My Email, and again, not having to poke holes in your firewall to access your data outside your network. I can see the value of a home NAS if you just have several TB of ancient photos and videos you want to offload from your device, but even then you should still pay for some form of cold/archival storage offsite to satisfy the 3-2-1. Personally, I pay $3/mo for 200gb of iCloud storage, and IMO it's money very well spent.
@meateaw4 ай бұрын
You dont need to poke holes through their firewall, you can poke holes through your own firewall, and configure your remotely hosted NAS to VPN **to you** connecting your nas to your network as if it were right next to you.
@pantoqwerty4 ай бұрын
You also have the “how do I sync with the NAS when away from my network” issue. Wait until you’re back isn’t great and doesn’t compare to the cloud. Poke holes in the firewall is asking for trouble, and use a VPN can be beset by issues - one of which is patchy connectivity and the other is much reduced battery life. I know because I’ve tried.
@fullstack_journey4 ай бұрын
Tailscale, Cloudflare Tunnels, etc solve these problems.
@igotnoname45574 ай бұрын
@@pantoqwerty Nonsense. I'm a web dev who works from home. I have huge blocks of open IPs on my firewall and anywhere from zero to several hundred people connected at once. I just have a standard home Internet plan with my ISP. My services run on a standard PC that's nearly a decade old, now (i7). I've been working like this for decades. I honestly don't even know what you're talking about. You clearly have other issues. As a web dev, I'm also renting plenty of rack space but certain tasks just make a LOT more sense to host yourself (mostly, high CPU\low bandwidth stuff).
@pantoqwerty4 ай бұрын
@@igotnoname4557 So you have several hundred people connected on your firewall at a time? Hardly a run of the mill appliance on a bog standard connection then else they’d be seriously contended. That you don’t know what i’m talking about is neither here nor there. VPN connections drain phone batteries. Fact. When your phone is locked it won’t generally keep the connection active and will activate it when you unlock it - you’ll see the VPN indicator go on and off. That’s an extra delay and inconvenience as you wait for it to reconnect. Native cloud services to a phone will work in the background. I host plenty of services but I refuse to expose them externally and VPN connectivity to them is a pain in the arse for the given reasons.
@chiyapet4 ай бұрын
And... you blew up their site.
@MrakCZ4 ай бұрын
DDoS from Linus watchers.
@zargle59244 ай бұрын
I NEED IT!!!
@Sol4rOnYt4 ай бұрын
yep
@brandonmcclellan57214 ай бұрын
Omg, I can’t get onto their site!
@JayVal904 ай бұрын
There’s a big opening here
@jackmun207 сағат бұрын
this is what i missed man. genuine "shut up and take my money" products that realistically can be replicated.
@jorsm.38932 ай бұрын
Great video ! got this setup after seeing it :) I actually used another FriendlyElec product as my NAS before that, the NanoPi M4 with a 4xSata hat. But that one just used a bunch of old HDD's, and was very bulky and noisy. This board is better in every way, and setup was a breeze, I only freaked out for a while because I didn't max out my gigabit connection while transferring, even though I have pretty much the exact same setup as in your video. Took me a while to realize my network cable was attached to my monitor, so my connection speed was being maxed out by the USB connection between my PC and monitor :). I still added a 5th M.2 SSD in a cheap USB-C enclosure, that one I will use for data that does not need fault-tolerance ( e.g.: Plex or Jellyfin metadata).
@skyshadow282 ай бұрын
No way, thats great. I was thinking of making something like this for a while and now LTT makes a video about it! I didn't understand some parts of this video (im not that knowledgable about anything server relayed, hence why watch LTT ;D), was the set up hard and how much did you end up spending on this total?
@jorsm.3893Ай бұрын
@@skyshadow28 Hmmz I thought I already replied to this but I don't see my comment. The setup was actually super easy. Just like the video mentioned, you use the image that friendlyelec provides. The only thing that takes really long is the initial configuration of the raid array (takes hours), but that is apparently normal. Now it has been running super smooth since. I suppose I spent around 1000 in total (without vat).
@cheeseisgreat244 ай бұрын
That intro is a balm for the tech soul. I am so glad they’ve been bringing it back ☺️
@Joseph_Lico4 ай бұрын
This would've been a perfect opportunity to talk about Immich. I've been looking for a NAS specifically to self host all my photos and it looks to have the closest experience to that of Google Photos. Would still be cool to see you guys do a video on it someday.
@AceBoy20994 ай бұрын
Same here, looking for an equivalent to "onedrive" (what i currently use but have to clear space every so often, no monthly plans for me) to do auto backup of photos from my and my families phones to my home seever/nas (TrueNAS).
@ricarmig4 ай бұрын
I would like to know if that could be used really as a CLOUD as Dropbox: I configure an app and outside my network, I can just sync as Dropbox things from my laptop or phone to it. Just as a NAS … it’s cool, but lacks what I’m searching.
@dominikreda84454 ай бұрын
@@ricarmig well... Have you heard of NextCloud? You should take a look at r/selfhosted, there's so much cool stuff to host that a dropbox replacement is kinda lame. Also if you just wanna try from my experience the best way is to just do it. I use old laptop as 'server' with linux and use docker, really fun to learn. Anything can be use as server.
@PTSeTe4 ай бұрын
@@ricarmigYou´d want Nextcloud for that not Immich
@tartletboy4 ай бұрын
@@ricarmignextcloud might be what you are looking for. As long as you setup a way of accessing local resources externally, it should be a near drop in replacement for dropbox
@badpiggies98823 күн бұрын
I use OneDrive, the fact that it shows you this huge preview of random photos you've backed up to it (the naughtier the better) as soon as you open its website has made my blood pressure go up every time Mom opens its site to point me to some shared document or has to borrow my computer (hers is an ancient potato of a Surface Book with a mechanical drive and busted fans that becomes a slideshow whenever she opens more than 3 browser tabs, whereas mine is a gaming laptop with 32GB of RAM and an SSD). I think I ought to have her make her own account on mine, just so she never sees anything that would haunt her for life.
@joshwatt780024 күн бұрын
@10:20 it also means that even in that time frame , you have 6 more TB than you would have had that more than half
@mwitters14 ай бұрын
THIS is the kind of video presentation that I started watching LTT for. GREAT video. You don't have to get rid of the humor but give me the information in a concise manner. Best video from yall in a long time.
@h4gfish4 ай бұрын
I assumed the video was a paid spot - they just breathlessly promote the board, and suggest you entrust all your data to an abandoned project the found on someone's Google drive. It's an interesting device, but when you're reaching for a backup, that thing has to work. When you're explaining to your spouse that the baby photos are all gone, "b-but we saved nearly $300" isn't going to help you.
@kayaguvendi3 ай бұрын
@@h4gfish Then get an offsite backup too. It can even be a good friend's house in the same city, really. The cloud storage prices are insane.
@dmmas99883 ай бұрын
There is about 70% of irrelevant information
@KuntauX2 ай бұрын
Bot
@mxss1154 ай бұрын
I considered it for a solid second, but I currently only pay $100/year for MS family, and I’ve got 4 people on it, 1TB each. Even if I got a low end config, with 2 cheap 4TB SSDs for redundancy, I’d be looking at $500 min after taxes and shipping on everything. So I’d be looking at 5 year for it pay itself off and I’d lose access to Office. However, if MS raises their prices it’ll definitely make me reconsider.
@nathanross40364 ай бұрын
Not to mention you'd probably need to upgrade something in 5 years anyway.
@pe1ucas4 ай бұрын
I'd suggest not to think it as a replacement at first, but as an improvement. So you get the bare minimum and then upgrade it with the years to lessen the total cost.
@exprofesso14 ай бұрын
Awesome board. Did you guys measured power consumption when idle and when streaming?
@NomadicDmitryАй бұрын
Important thing for those who travel infenitely (aka "Digital Nomads") - since there is no permanent home - there is no way to set up something that way. That's why I keep buying that damn storage. Another point is how well integrated it with the Operating System (e.g iCloud), but the biggest drawback (of course) is privacy.
@trulsdirio4 ай бұрын
The big thing with cloud storage to me is not having it all in one place. If my house catches fire or a pipe bursts flooding my home, I don't want all of the copies of my most important files being in there.
@shortanimationz4 ай бұрын
Yeah this is all well and good but I'm happy to pay a "premium" for cloud storage since it's basically one click to set up and it runs independent of whether or not things are fine in my house.
@LostGeburah4 ай бұрын
that's the big difference. this video is mostly a nothing burger.
@JamesR6244 ай бұрын
Exactly. What happens if your house has an issue or even just your internet has an issue? I see so many "stop paying for cloud storage" videos like this and they ALL miss this point, and lo and behold, they're all trying to shill these solutions that end up costing MORE, both in money, and peace of mind. (notice how to make the value seem good, they had to compare to ANNUAL subscription instead of MONTHLY. Sorry but many can afford $10/month a LOT more than $120 RIGHT NOW, and that's not even mentionng you loose all the benefits of cloud storage.
@mrmotofy4 ай бұрын
Did you miss the part about 3-2-1 the 1 is offsite. Which this could work well for
@Deus_wukong14684 ай бұрын
@@mrmotofyim sure they didn’t watch the video that far in the first place.
@fukov34004 ай бұрын
This would be cool but you’re also looking at $500+ for 8TB of storage these days with prices rising on solid state storage. You could build a NAS with significantly higher capacity spinners for around that much or get the same amount of space for less. You don’t have to spend a lot of money for basic file storage. my NAS is a $30 used mini pc with an i3 6100t.
@herranton4 ай бұрын
Did you watch the whole video? They showed a m.2 to SATA adapter and explained that as a possibility. Also, not everyone needs 1tb of storage. I'd be perfectly content with ~1tb of storage. Four 512gb drives are _a lot_ cheaper. Not everyone stores their Linux isos and steam boat willy rips. Some of us just need photo and document backups.
@fukov34004 ай бұрын
@@herranton great, you can still do that far cheaper. From a mini pc to something as simple as plugging a flash drive into the USB port on your router (if equipped) or even just creating a file share on a desktop. There’s lots of options out there and this isn’t a bad one but there’s simpler ways to back up and access your files, often with equipment you may already have.
@altokers4 ай бұрын
@@herranton I mean that's still an extra $40 for the adapter. That money could be used on more storage.
@keiranfoster124 ай бұрын
Brilliant idea. I got a used mini PC for £30 here, £7 for an SSD to use as the boot drive, then £160 for a 12TB external HDD, I hooked that up with tailscale and I have that drive acessible anywhere. I also got a 1TB HDD off ebay for £7.50. That's for my duplicates of the important files/ offline/offsite backup. The HDD is more than powerful enough. I tested 10 devices playing back video at the same time off it. It's got an i3 4130t in it I think. SSDs are wasted on projects like this because most of the time you'll be throttled by either gigabit ethernet (125 mb/second max), or if you have the infrastructure at home 2.5 gigabit ethernet (~300 mb/second max). The SSDs go up to 3000-5000 mb/second if they're attached locally. And a high capacity HDD can do (200mb/second+). And if you're away from home you'll be throttled by very slow mobile data, wifi speeds, which at best will probably be gigabit (125 mb/second), and likely far far less. Unless you're in a big big city with 5G everywhere or a very powerful wired fibre connection 2.5Gigabit+ (which again is rare outside major cities / business connections / hotel connections) - it's wasted. Plus you'll also be limited by your home internet connection. I find it hard advocating for bulk SSD storage in something like this at at least 3-4x the price, plus all the extra boards and housing, when you're not going to get or need the throughput. It could be worthwhile if you need a small form factor and hyper power efficiency, will have lots of users using it simultaneously, or are doing direct video editing off it. Or if cost is not an issue to you - that's fine too! If you're not using it super intensively, HDDs can do the job amazingly well. They'll be idle most of the time, except when you're using them. Their capacities go much higher and I'd rather have 12TB of storage for the same price of 4TB SSD drive that will go at the same speed when it's in use.
@stonebubbleprivat4 ай бұрын
@fukov3400 but you don't have raid with one drive. If it fails, all is gone. I agree that the comparison to Google Drive 10 tb for 50 $/month is unrealistic. I just need 100 gb, if I include the photos from my camera. Also, backblaze offers unlimited backup capacity for 9$/month which would be a much better comparison, because the stated problem was backing up your photos/data from your phone.
@TheJayMane4 ай бұрын
You can get a Beelink Mini S12 with a much more powerful CPU and 16GB of ram for $180 if you want to run multiple Docker containers. It does only have 500GB, but you can upgrade it to 2TB and it has an NVME slot to expand it further. So while it is lacking 2 additional drives, it can definitely save you money if you want to run multiple platforms like Home Assistance, OctoPrint, Plex, without need multiple Raspberry Pis.
@kyjo726823 ай бұрын
this is a NAS, not an app server. it's supposed to have like 16-32 TB depending on drives
@asidsgreed59114 ай бұрын
Essentially, you can connect a VPN to your home network even without a static IP address, and then use free programs that support SMB or other protocols to access your data inside that NAS, effectively maximizing your privacy.
@DrMarcArnoldBach4 ай бұрын
I am working in IT and run my own server downstairs. I stopped using my server as a cloud storage for mobile sync because having such a service exposed to the internet comes with responsibility. Suddenly I have to read security notes and perform patches over night. regularly the cloud suite changed major components in the software architecture and upgrade is a challenge and you study docu and blogposts. I am back to USB cable and Netdrive on a PC
@epsig15073 ай бұрын
have you considered putting your home server behind a VPN? You can still access it through the internet but it is not exposed (only the VPN port).
@frankfrei68483 ай бұрын
Yes, indeed, excellent point. Plus the mobile apps to do the sync are nowhere as reliable as the built-in ones. I used exactly the app they are showing in the first few seconds of this video and it was the best one I tried but still would miss synchronizing stuff automatically sometimes.
@frankfrei68483 ай бұрын
@@epsig1507 This is an option but you then have to keep the VPN connection open at all times or manage VPN and syncing manually which is a pain.
@camilostrange7373 ай бұрын
Same. I was running all kind of services, like a FOSS slack and a FOSS dropbox, and the security considerations only were insane. At some point it was cost effective to just pay the yearly subscription.
@ntn8883 ай бұрын
yes excellent point. but as a middle ground alternative, you could only sync over local wifi and turn off remote access.
@raffskid8574 ай бұрын
You should talk about Nextcloud and how to set it up, to make your NAS a true cloud storage solution.
@HaimRich944 ай бұрын
Just be aware with exploits and always keep the instance updated, nextcloud has been exploited a lot in the past
@hojnikb4 ай бұрын
Unless you actually need all the nextcloud functionality, i'd avoid it at all cost. Instead use one of those simple web based file explorers for remote file access on a PC and/or webdav/scp and a dedicated sync app on your phone. Much less complexity and possibility for exploits.
@Adures4 ай бұрын
Back when I was a student I successfully ran Nextcloud instance serving terabytes of data (usually before exams lol), so I know it is capable platform, but it's just not stable enough to recommend to most people. It's pain in the butt. Nextcloud team is very aggressive with updates, every update will introduce some bugs which may or may not affect you. Don't believe me? Just look at their gihub issues lol (both open and closed). Even minor releases are problematic.
@raffskid8574 ай бұрын
@@HaimRich94 I have mine constantly updated but yeah I’m aware of exploits. That’s generally why I don’t put incredibly important stuff on there and make sure to have backups.
@joshuapettus69734 ай бұрын
@@hojnikb I got to say what is this concern with the security of Nextcloud? And why would a nobody software solution with limited resources be safer? Nextcloud is at it's heart a Webdav server and you would be hitting all the same security concerns with opening a PC to the internet. At least with Nextcloud, I know the software itself is secure with a large opensource organization behind it. The rest is still on me with any self hosted solution.
@AaronShumaker3 ай бұрын
I had an idea for using ZFS to auto sync backups that would make it really user frienly. It has a feature that lets you send a snapshot to a file, and with the command line you can generate a snapshot that is the diff of a prior snapshot and the current system. It would be a very user friendly feature to be able to plug in a USB drive, have it look at what the most recent snapshot is on that drive, then generate a new snapshot that is the diff of that prior and the current system. It would make it very easy to stagger differential backups between multiple backup devices. I.e. I take backup drive A out, and plug in drive B it pushes a snapshot to bring B up to date. I take A to the vault, grab drive C. I bring C back and plug it in, it gets a different snapshot(since C is further behind all the others, but the system sees its most recent snapshot on drive and does the diff to generate a new snapshot). Etc. Unfortunately the way their GUI integrates with ZFS is all through running commands and then parsing the textual output with python, which is a crazy fragile way to implement an integration.
@daltoonybob3 ай бұрын
Just a reminder for the security side of things. Hybrid storage solutions suffer the most hacks by creating such a large attack surface. Go all cloud or all local. Use local encryption applications so that data is encrypted on device is rest encrypted off device.
@katrinabryce4 ай бұрын
If you are using it to store your Steamboat Willie rips (and Linux ISOs) on Plex or Jellyfin, then mechanical drives are fine. A video stream needs about 1-2 IOPS. Mechanical drives do about 50-70 IOPS, SSDs do about 300,000 to 1,500,000 IOPS. Editing videos is obviously a very different matter, and you definitely need SSDs for that.
@mateuszzimon82164 ай бұрын
Idk but maybe 3 nvme, 5 Sata SSD it's enough for this configuration.
@katrinabryce4 ай бұрын
@@mateuszzimon8216 My NAS runs on FreeBSD. It is 4 x 10TB Iron Wolves, 2 x 2TB Samsung Evo (2.5" SATA) for ARC2 and 32GB RAM. The ARC Cache (RAM) hit rate is about 99% when I am not streaming videos, so most of the time it is running at RAM drive speeds. Videos open instantly and the network is the bottleneck, but it can handle backups of my store-bought 4k BluRays just fine. I think I could remove the ARC2 and not see any difference. Probably I will at some point and replace those slots with more mechanical drives to increase capacity.
@Deja1174 ай бұрын
As someone who done animation for a very short time, SSDs changed my life. I just wish that Linus shown us a video compiling too.
@Kytetiger4 ай бұрын
Lol, i'll re-use the expression with copies of Steamboat Willie 😂
@meateaw4 ай бұрын
@@mateuszzimon8216 The answer is probably 2 large nvme, and 10 large sata.
@joho04 ай бұрын
SSD-based NAS solutions have unique constraints in regard to overprovisioning and wear-leveling. Enterprise SAS spinny disks are still used in many corporate NAS solutions for this reason.
@kot98br4 ай бұрын
is there any research regard to this?
@joho04 ай бұрын
@@kot98br Research is hard to come by, and youtube doesn't allow links in comments, but there are some well-informed articles out there that discuss the pros and cons. The key takeaway is that SSDs have a limited duty-cycle and may not be the best option for write-intensive applications.
@tazanteflight86703 ай бұрын
For what reason...?
@nauxsi3 ай бұрын
@@tazanteflight8670 firmware on m2 drives.
@Shanemvm4 ай бұрын
This is perfect. Been looking for a cheap yet effective video editing server for a while but didn't want to spend hundreds on a Synology NAS or some other home NAS. With the SATA expansions I could also just as easily use more high end SATA SSDs in the long run too for expandability.
@brianh.000Ай бұрын
In the meantime, this SSD solution is still far more expensive than a Synology NAS setup. The SSDs mentioned are $229 each (4TB). My 4-bay NAS + 4Sata drives = ~830 This board + 4SSDs = $1100 The performance won't be the same, and that's certainly reflected in the price. If you can get the SSD->SATA adapters working, then it'd definitely be an economical choice.
@Mombierella4 ай бұрын
With Google Photos, I enjoy the convenience of effortlessly searching my photos by various criteria such as faces, names, and locations. I initially started using Google Photos as a free companion to my Google Pixel phone, but its exceptional search capabilities have kept me hooked as a paying customer. Can you add tags to your photos so that you can search through them in a similar way? I don't know if cloud has all that but it's part of what I love about my Google photos setup. But it's getting really expensive to have to pay for it because I will never have enough space with Google photos.
@bioniclelegend74 ай бұрын
Ngl this interests me massively. I love how tiny and compact this is. I have been running thinking of setting up a nas at home and something this small that supports m.2 SSDs. Sure it will cost a bit to set up like yours but as you said that's a one time cost and I like how easy it would be to upgrade the pcb while keeping the drives or keep the pcb and change the drives (if one died or something).
@josephkeil75814 ай бұрын
I'm just glad to have the og intro back, just saying it is a highlight to find out what one liner it is today
@trevinbeattie48883 ай бұрын
Personally, I wrote my Android apps to back up their data to local storage; installed FTP Server so I can copy those backup files to my Linux desktop PC; and use Bacula to store an offline copy of those files to LTO tape. It may not be as convenient as “cloud” storage, but it’s a whole lot more secure.
@FragEightyfive4 ай бұрын
0:00 that's the new look Every video needs to have this outfit.
@timeimp4 ай бұрын
5:18 - 5:19 is the $50 Australian note. Well done Linus!
@shangrilai19904 ай бұрын
Pineapples
@Eilaithen14 ай бұрын
Canada also has plastic money so I had to do a double take on that one
@brodz1y6194 ай бұрын
Im glad i wasnt the only one who noticed
@caleballen13304 ай бұрын
A really practical topic and good video! A more detailed cost breakdown would be helpful though as I'm not certain it is always cheaper. You have to include power costs (especially in Europe) drive failures and perhaps double it for the 3-2-1 rule. With Google Drive or iCloud we assume that those things are handled for us. I love tinkering but have yet to nail down a cheap, surefire storage and backup strategy that fulfils 3-2-1
@Tininppa4 ай бұрын
and the easy use for cloud without security risk to your home network
@bastienx84 ай бұрын
In Europe the biggest storage you can have on Google Drive is 2TB for 100€/year, a board like this one with two drives is paid for in 2 years even with power costs since it doesn't consume that much. Your ISP router probably needs more power than this.
@Mikeey14 ай бұрын
Yeah, I started the video and thought damn this could be okay but $95 is quite expensive when I can just pay a few $ a year for extra Apple storage and get unlimited photo storage with Amazon Prime. But, I could see it being convenient. To then keep adding bits that make it more and more expensive, to then be talking about a nearly $900 piece of kit in a working state. Sure if you're storing A LOT of films and whatnot, maybe that's of use for you for some reason. But, I can't see why it's even remotely reasonable at those kinds of prices for any normal user who will just have a boat load of pictures and videos they've taken themselves. Just buy an external hard drive and call it a day
@CanIHasThisName4 ай бұрын
Power is at most 33€ a year where I live, that's assuming 100% load 24/7 (which isn't realistic). No, Google drive or iCloud do not handle 3-2-1 for you. You can lose data on cloud, it happens. Cloud storage can at best be considered your off-site backup. The biggest hurdle people need to jump over when trying to implement 3-2-1 is realizing that perhaps they don't actually need to have backed up all of their hoarded data. Pretty much anything that can be recovered elsewhere isn't worth backing up. And 3-2-1 should only be applied to things you can't afford to lose. Let's be honest, lots of people hoard stuff they will never actually need. Once you start getting into the off-site part of storage, it's no longer just about the hardware, but also about the fact that you need to have that hardware somewhere. If it's too close to your home, it's exposed to many of the same risks as on-site. And in many use-cases it will actually turn out that Cloud isn't a bad solution, especially for low volume things like photos.
@MrBrax4 ай бұрын
@@bastienx8but in Europe one of those 4tb ssds cost 440€ each. This project makes no sense here
@johnnyc.5979Ай бұрын
Or, if your not rich like Linus, you can use the opensource software "syncthing" or "synctrazor" to synchronize any folder on your phone to any and all computers in your house. It's relatively easy to use. You can also use it to synchronize any computer's folder and files to anywhere else. Just make sure the software is installed on all devices. That's all I use for my phones. Great if you make video content from your phone; it will show up eventually on your computer where you can edit it.
@ramses_is_numba_one4 ай бұрын
How do you protect it? Are there any enclosures for it?
@BioToxin4 ай бұрын
as a trucker space in the cab is a premium, but I need a nas with me because of how often I'm stuck in areas with either bad or no signal. so this is right up my alley. I've tried the apex board with a cable to put it in a small form factor. I tried the 12 bay flash nas. but there's something very attractive about this so I'm going to try this as well. I think more than likely it'll end up at home and I'll get a few to make a San or something, maybe make one pool for my Plex, one pool for my steam, etc. I am really looking forward to seeing any other versions they come out with. this would be perfect if they pushed out a double side pcb letting you do 8 or more ssds, and maybe a 10g base t though at that point I don't think the chip would handle it. but we're getting there!
@jajssblue4 ай бұрын
Elijah wears many hats at LTT
@AarPlays4 ай бұрын
Idk why but I heard this in Rolf's voice. "Elijah wears many hats ed-boy"
@herranton4 ай бұрын
He's been promoted. It used to be many helmets.
@nopers22233224 ай бұрын
Frodo
@CharnavinT.Charnuvanik3 ай бұрын
I just bought a mid range phone that still has external storage. 1tb! Amazing!!! How did they even make that fit in my phone!!!😲
4 ай бұрын
THANKS this is what I've been looking for a while to solve my "storage" problems, THANKS!! Regards from Tabasco, México [Land of The Olmecs]!
@donkaos5014 ай бұрын
The best way to take down a Website, promote their product :)) love it
@Blake_the_Drake4 ай бұрын
Right? I got on it for about 18 seconds.....annnnnnnnnd it's gone.
@TortuousAugur4 ай бұрын
I must have been stuck in old video limbo because seeing a recent video featuring a cleanly shaved Linus gave me whiplash. Thanks for the video! Owning your own "cloud based storage" sounds awesome.
@sebastien41164 ай бұрын
Comparison is a bit flawed, since electricity cost will come into play too, and won't be negligible for the kind of hardware presented. Running some servers and storage 24/7 does cost money.
@pascalbruyere71084 ай бұрын
Cloud storage is only like $2 per months. Unless you need a lot more space than what would fit on a phone. NAS doesn’t provide backup nor protection against fires or theft or hardware failures. Maybe ok as a backup from your cloud service, in case you don’t trust it. My approach is to use two clouds services: google and apple. On top of that some amount of sharing and emailing assures some guaranty that my pictures are somewhere out there.
@maryethu4 ай бұрын
I really liked the intro! It was a bit confusing because it wasn't clear what the relationship was between a homemade NAS and phone snatchers until Linus brought it back up it part way through the video, but very inventive! Keep up the good work, Elijah.
@freddymendoza48024 ай бұрын
Phone smashers* not snatchers. Given the video is for cloud backup and they were “smashing their phones” I thought it was pretty obvious?
@ThrasherEscapes4 ай бұрын
i've used a few dozen teamgroup mp33 & mp34 drives in various builds over the last 2-3 years & they've all been rock solid. even have 2 of the 4tb mp34 drives in my gaming rig. one of the best values for a reasonable quality drive in the ssd market imo & worthy of a strong recommendation. they have some good values on gen 4 drives that might also be worth your consideration.
@zwheels6544 ай бұрын
I will say, as a business owner, I found a steal of a deal with Office 365. Not this good of a deal, but one I'm happy with since I need the email hosting and office products anyway. I get 1 TB per user for $5 per month and I host client video files. So if I sign on a new long-term client, they get their own email address and a dedicated 1 TB of storage thrown in for just $5 per month. I do a lot of UGC and remote video projects, too. So setting up my client with a shared space to dump files, and share delivery is super seamless. If I ever have a bigger operation, though, I'm thankful for videos like these. One day it may make sense for me to self-host.
@SociedadAndroide3 ай бұрын
what happens now if that hardware crashes ? where's your data ? sometimes I see that when you pay for a subscription, you will never lose it, at least, you know its replicated across a lot of backups instead of just one single thing that you own that could break. But maybe doing backups to another drive will work
@JeremieBPCreation4 ай бұрын
I like those more cinematic segments. I prefer actually natural when possible but in those videos Linus is always playing his on-screen character anyway so I enjoy when they lay into the playing aspect. XD
@DonPaulo194 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this, Linus! I looked for a cheap, upgradable NAS with low power consumption for years.
@goku4454 ай бұрын
That is not it. It's expensive, and it's not the worst... it lacks SATA. You can find much better.
@moonstrobe4 ай бұрын
@@goku445What would you recommend?
@Ehren13374 ай бұрын
Yeah.. what do you recommend? What moonstrobe asked.@@goku445
@hyphybir4 ай бұрын
Any infomation about power consumption? This is very important when you have a device that runs 24/7.
@MrChimalis3 ай бұрын
I am currently planning a NAS and I am also missing this information.. I don´t wanna spend more than 150 € for the basic hardware, so a mini pc is out of range. A Raspi 4B 4GB RAM is my first option now (power consumption of about 6 W). But if the CM3588 comsumes less than 9 W i would prefer it.
@leegilbert75512 ай бұрын
OMV is great software for those getting into building your own nas. A rasberry pi would have been a better option from costing perspective. I recently built a NAS using an intel NUC and DAS. OMV is very intuitive to use, and within an hour you can have a complete NAS including Plex up and running.
@cazdotsys4 ай бұрын
We need more of these interesting and creative intros, they are fire 🔥🔥🔥
@sahilagar4 ай бұрын
The first 2 minutes were so well paced I thought it was a TV show, until after the intro I was brought back... AMAZING PRODUCTION
@peterstasinaki6424 ай бұрын
Linus tech tips… Can this setup be used for Apple iCloud? I’m sick of paying for it. If it can, how would I transfer my entire iCloud file to this? In addition, I do a family sharing with iCloud… two houses. Would I need to buy 2 and can they be synchronized together for two home system backups for extra data protection? I think this would make a great video for you to make
@ajfathers4 ай бұрын
Why not use your existing router's USB ports as NAS (using built-in FTP or SMB service on your router)? Once that's done, all you need is your router's internal IP to start using it as a FTP or SMB server 😉 Similarly, for the media server, just enable the DLNA service on your router so all your media on the storage (flash drive or external SSD etc) attached to router's USB can be played on all your devices as long as those are on the same WiFi. Remember:- Your existing router with a USB port is your CHEAPEST NAS solution... PERIOD !!! (Faster the USB port, faster the backup or streaming speed via your NAS).
@linuxsux414 ай бұрын
Makes video about how you shouldn't use cloud storage, brought to you by the people who sell the servers to your cloud storage provider.
@handlesRtrash3544 ай бұрын
lmao old man linus is the best. hope we see him in the future :) honestly more skits like the opener would be rad.
@veritystruth3 ай бұрын
Came here to say the title is mean but fell in love instead bc you're so adorable. Now I'm like "was it that mean tho?" 😂 I don't usually acknowledge my super cringe moments, but when I do, it's in the comment section.
@stgram124 ай бұрын
So 10 years ago the buzz was having a NAS... then everything went cloud... now everything wants to go back home?
@feisikLetsPlayАй бұрын
nah, people want acces from their own cloud. Cheaper in the long run and better to host yourself.
@Monique-iz8lp4 ай бұрын
Welp, we crashed the site again
@JimParshall4 ай бұрын
Your compadre there with the fedora on reminds me of my company in Bellevue WA we used to teach a lot of Red Hat Linux and we were the certification Center for Red Hat Linux in Washington. There were times when all of our trainers including me that were teaching Red Hat wore Red Hat fedoras to teach the class in. So this wonderful video you made actually brought back a very serious nostalgia pain with me from the old days of teaching so much Red Hat Linux thanks that was great. I love this little device too by the way
@bka713 ай бұрын
Nice hardware, but there's one thing that's a dealbreaker. I'm talking about the SD card slot. Installing any system on this card is asking for trouble sooner or later. I'm talking about wear leveling and the fact that even Unix-type systems constantly write and overwrite data (such as logs) that can wear out such a card in 1-1.5 years. Unless the manufacturer allows OS installation on a RAID of these NVMe drives, I take back my entire argument :)
@LieutenantSandcastle4 ай бұрын
Of course some people want to store their data off site in case their house burns down or some other disaster occurs.