AMD is in TROUBLE - Ryzen 7000 Full Review - Ryzen 7600X, Ryzen 7700X, Ryzen 7900X, Ryzen 7950X

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At long last, AMD has launched their new Zen 4 CPUs, Ryzen 7950X, 7900X, 7700X, and 7600X, and they look great. Alongside the enhancements of socket AM5, these new chips look like they give Intel a run for their money... or do they? AMD has a bit of an issue of not being better than their best gaming chip, or better value than Intel's platform which makes some of these chips hard to recommend. And with Intel's Raptor Lake looming on the horizon, AMD's future might not look so bright anymore.
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0:00 Intro
1:24 The new stuff!
3:05 Gaming Benchmarks
5:25 Productivity Benchmarks
8:24 Power and Thermals
11:28 iGPU
12:23 Our Take
14:33 Outro
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@LinusTechTips Жыл бұрын

Corrections: 1. 2:06 Our Ryzen 7000 and Intel 12th Gen test benches were equipped with 6000MHz CL36 RAM, as per AMD's recommendation. 2. 11:09 The x-axis label should read "CPU Package Power (W) - Lower is Better"

@samgranier6735 Жыл бұрын

Thx 1138 lot 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@labradors6825 Жыл бұрын

you should pin this comment.

@hugodivalinov2909 Жыл бұрын

Also the name of the guy is Celsius, not Celcius;)

@anlukinha8764 Жыл бұрын

3. 12:30 "But Linus, you might say..."

@shiningstar9403 Жыл бұрын

Those mistakes were sponsored by INTEL 😂

@couriersix2443 Жыл бұрын

Having your previous gen "niche" part outperform most of your new gen parts goes to show how insane 3D V-Cache is. Now if they were to debut it on Zen4 as a 7800x3D...

@Vilmir Жыл бұрын

Rumor has it that it's coming sooner than it came for 5000.

@acmenipponair Жыл бұрын

also it helps AMD in getting MORE customers. Because not everyone will go to the newest CPU - the costs are higher and it's still a first gen of AM5, and many, especially companies, are not early adopters. But they know, they can still upgrade their Zen 1 to a Zen 3 in the future and get quite the performance of a Zen 4. (Don't forget, that many companies will be forced to do that in 2023-2025, when Windows 10 gets into the finish line of their support time thanks to Microsoft schenanigans)

@Woolsupgamers5 Жыл бұрын

@@Vilmir I hope so!

@dcxSpartan117 Жыл бұрын

7000 series vcache might show it's face Q1 23'

@couriersix2443 Жыл бұрын

@@Vilmir I would hope so, the Zen3 launch was the first of it's kind / more of a "test run", and now that it's been proven to be a real game changer, I'd imagine it shouldn't take long for them to start slapping it into possibly more than just 1 SKU this gen

@MisterFribble Жыл бұрын

More than anything this highlights just how *insane* the 5800X3D is. I can't wait for the 3D 7000 chips.

@cringeremasterd8101 Жыл бұрын

AMD AND COUNTER STRIKE ARE BEST FREINDS PROVE ME WRONG

@reviewforthetube6485 Жыл бұрын

You mean the i9 12900k ans 5800x3d because the 12900k was right there with the 7950x also.

@superneenjaa718 Жыл бұрын

@@reviewforthetube6485 it's the KS one. 5800x3d beats the regular 12900k.

@wwllsswtrustong Жыл бұрын

zen4 with 3d v-cache, it's gonna be incredibly hot

@IamAWESOME3980 Жыл бұрын

LOL

@Ducaso Жыл бұрын

Honestly having integrated graphics saved my butt when my dedicated gpu died on me suddenly and it was next to impossible to source a new one during the shortage. Sure quality and frames took a huge hit but it was still usable (and playable) to the point that by the time I received a new card over a year later I had gotten used to it lol.

@probablykeen Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t happened enough the last 5 years for me to care about integrated graphics

@PPlankBeam Жыл бұрын

Yep, and that's why I took the decision last year to buy a 5600G rather than an X and lost a few CPU benchmark points. But in daily driving I honestly wouldn't know. I had to test out the integrated graphics without my discrete GPU in and if you're happy to reduce the graphics quality a little, games will still look and work fine. Not great, but not bad either, so it makes a good lifeboat if the worst happens until you can afford a new discrete GPU.

@jtenorj Жыл бұрын

@StrizFPS I've been having random crashes in my system since I installed a RX 6700 XT(PowerColor Fighter). Which model RX 6700 XT is giving you trouble?

@swapnilgohil7280 Жыл бұрын

Gamers when they find they don't have to but the most expensive hardware

@disruptivegarage Жыл бұрын

i used to be able to play fable on a motherboard with integrated graphics on the bulldozer architecture, turning off half the cores truly unlocked its potential.

@Dave-dh7rt Жыл бұрын

6:16 I would say that a 40% lead going from the 5700X to the 7700X is mighty impressive.

@user-el7iy6bh9w 9 ай бұрын

also in price as today

@fdfd4739 Жыл бұрын

The thing that sells it for me are the minimums. They kill in averages, but the actual experience improvement is unreal.

@slartibartfast2649 Жыл бұрын

Not "unreal" improvements. We have seen uplifts greater than this before. Actually quite disappointed. The high end is crazy fast for sure, but draws 250W and the low end is not very impressive in terms of price to performance vs last gen Intel.

@jordanwardle11 Жыл бұрын

@@slartibartfast2649 I mean, every uplift from after the 80s is quite disappointing, making games go from unplayable to bearly playable

@DarkSwordsman Жыл бұрын

I'm interested to know how those minimums are measured. The 3950X had reported decent minimums, but the actual experience in some games is nearly unplayable (at least for someone like me that values smoothness) due to the CCX design. Even a game like minecraft which is often a cakewalk today often has stutter and hitching issues that make it difficult to enjoy. I've seen this with every game I play and it makes me almost wish I went 9th gen Intel at the time since the other Intel systems in my family were getting higher and smoother FPS.

@crosshunter3316 Жыл бұрын

Well, Linus convinced me that my purchase of 5800x3D was a good choice, well done Linus!

@supersaiyansoldier1977 Жыл бұрын

Same lmao. Bought mine a few weeks ago and feeling a lot better after watching the video.

@carl5381 Жыл бұрын

BIG YUP

@Devin7Eleven Жыл бұрын

Got mine for $250

@phurinkazan Жыл бұрын

people who play flight sim actually "downgrade" to the 5800x3d from higher tier chips.

@brunther Жыл бұрын

@@Devin7Eleven from where??

@TheSeanUhTron Жыл бұрын

Whatever the case, I'm just glad that AMD and Intel are finally very competitive (In the desktop/laptop market). It was rather annoying during the 2010's when AMD had no competitor to Intel's top chips. The huge gain in single core performance has convinced me to upgrade my 3900x to a 7900x. Although, Intel is still not competitive enough with AMD's EPYC server CPU's, and barely competitive with Thread Ripper. In that segment, you're better off going AMD.

@wdunn06 Жыл бұрын

Im in the same boat, ive got a 3900x right now and cant decide what to upgrade to. Its driving me nuts!

@TheSeanUhTron Жыл бұрын

@@wdunn06 I got my 7900x a few days ago. Awesome performance, but the DDR5 side of it seems to be a little bit finicky. It took me an hour just to get it to boot. Had to turn off EXPO, then it started working. Turned EXPO back on yesterday and suddenly it's working fine now. Except POST takes like, 20-30 seconds. It apparently has to "train" the DDR5 timings during POST and that can take a long time. My advice: Give it a few months. There's also the rumored Zen 4 X3D versions coming in January!

@wdunn06 Жыл бұрын

@The SeanUhTron Thanks for your advice mate I appreciate it. I never knew the ddr5 had to be essentially trained, interesting. What is this X3D thing I keep seeing it man?

@TheSeanUhTron Жыл бұрын

@@wdunn06 X3D is 3D V-Cache, it's essentially a massive L3 cache which can improve performance by a significant amount.

@grn1 Жыл бұрын

I've got a 5800X I bought not all that long ago (I think the X3D was technically available but I couldn't find any at a reasonable price). Don't game all too often nowadays (I'd like to fix that but I've got to get my arse in gear and find a different job), so I'm in no rush to upgrade. Next upgrade will probably be a graphics card but my old RTX2700 is still going strong and only struggles with a couple of games that are probably not well optimized.

@802Garage Жыл бұрын

I think this is just a simple case of early adopters paying the price. As more affordable motherboards come out, more DDR5 RAM is available, and sales start happening, it will all make more sense from a financial standpoint. There's no doubt the performance is impressive. Now give us the Zen 4 3D chips!

@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын

Normally I would agree, but new gens are usually associated with significant performance improvements. The improvements with these chips don't seem to be gamer oriented. So, adoption will be much slower, and therefore the rate the price comes down will be tantalizingly slow.

@OfSheikah Жыл бұрын

I don't think the case of the 5800X3D early adopters is a rushed type of decision those buyers made

@agentooe33AD Жыл бұрын

@@marcfruchtman9473 Actually, that would hasten the prices lowering. If there's not a high demand, they'll have to lower prices to get people to buy them. The initial Zen 4 chips were primarily designed for servers and laptops (hence the iGPU), and enough gamning performance to compete. The V-Cache models are the ones to get ifyou want next gen. Current prices are for early adopters only. Once that crowd gets their fill, prices will go down. Most gamers will likely just stick wtih a 5800x3d and DDR4 if they're building now, or one of the cheaper intel chips. Next year will be when gamers start adopting AM5 when the V cache chips come out.

@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын

@@agentooe33AD I would like to think that. But lately, I am seeing companies simply "holding out"... and waiting for the public to simply adapt to the higher prices. So, I don't have a lot of hope that things will improve.

@zkeepah Жыл бұрын

@@agentooe33AD or they'll just simply make less product, price only goes down if they have overstock, and once it's in a retailer's hands, amd's already got their check, regardless of what kind of sales the retailer has to pull to get rid of it

@jezuconz7299 Жыл бұрын

I was literally already thinking about waiting for the 3D-version of the 7000 series to build my pc from scratch before this video. This only further confirms it. I'm expecting 7000-3D to be an absolute BEAST

@iGPR3 Жыл бұрын

maybe theyll splash out and do a 7600x with a 3d v cache aswell.. i can see that selling fast

@JJAB91 Жыл бұрын

When is that supposed to release?

@ismaelsoto9507 Жыл бұрын

@@JJAB91 Rumors says Q1 2023

@iGPR3 Жыл бұрын

@@JJAB91 the normal stuff releases sometime tomorrow and the V cache isnt gonna be for another few months.. although it is rumoured to be earlier than the launch of the 5800X3D its not gonna be here for a while. the 5800X release in nov 5th of 2020 and the 5800X3D released in april of 2022, so its gonna be a hot minute before the 7000 series’s 3D releases.

@iGPR3 Жыл бұрын

@@ismaelsoto9507 that seems pretty early, i was thinking more like late Q2 early Q3 before the release it

@itsKEVO Жыл бұрын

5:25 why did ryzen 5800x 3d get removed from the charts??? any else notice 😡😡

@dazzauk8334 Жыл бұрын

The only reason i have gone with Zen4 is, my last PC was AM3 so i needed to buy a whole new setup. It made sense for me to get the latest Zen4 because i can afford it, and those 3D versions on this gen excite me alot.

@sourdonkeyjuice Жыл бұрын

In your benchmarks I think I can speak for a lot of people using older parts like my Ryzen 9 3900XT that we'd like to see the difference between these older parts and the brand new ones. Not just a comparison between the brand new one and the one that came out right before. It's a pretty small portion of your audience that has the newest one that's out and looking to upgrade to the next one immediately.

@DracoMhuuh Жыл бұрын

Preach

@o3941 Жыл бұрын

You would think it would be pretty simple for them They had to have tested those chips in the past. I'm sure we could all go-a-searching for those videos and then compare the numbers, but, like, they should already have thosen umbers. How hard is it to add another slide to their video and 30 seconds of script to account for it?

@allxtend4005 Жыл бұрын

to be honest you will not see big differences. the ting is a Ryzen 3900xt is still more then enough to handle even 4k gaming with 60 - 100+ fps

@valenten89 Жыл бұрын

Gamers nexus has a test that includes the Ryzen 7 1700 for what its worth.

@nickskier1 Жыл бұрын

That might be too much data for a video though, a lot to compare in 15 minutes. Maybe if they start posting an online website summary that be great. But I think the reason still is good enough to just show against the last gen, is this is more about what should you buy next, its a worthy comparison since last gen chips will still be sold for a little while and be cheaper, to see if its worth it to actually get the newest gen

@Agent_Eli Жыл бұрын

I was about to feel dumb for recently getting a 5800X3D, but hot damn these benchmarks are really validating my poor foresight.

@icemanchambers1207 Жыл бұрын

It should be illegal to own that shit

@mrtube827 Жыл бұрын

Updates, Drivers…

@jasoncohen5469 Жыл бұрын

X3D? I've had the 5800x since launch didn't know there was an updated model.

@meteormelee Жыл бұрын

keep in mind, the 5800x3d is more of a gaming oriented CPU. notice how it didn't show up on any of the productivity benchmarks here? the 7000 series are still really capable chips for both gaming/productivity, but the 5800x3d is mainly just good for gaming. (not that it's bad)

@ZboeC5 Жыл бұрын

@@meteormelee I like how you just casually dismiss how awesome a 5800X is....get outta here with that nonsense. The 5800X3D is going to do just as well as any 5800X, except it does better in games.

@derelictdiva Жыл бұрын

I just want to say, I saw your recent video about how you have 80 people working at LTT now, and having watched since there were was like 10-14 of you? I’m so damn happy and proud of my fellow Canadian techies! But also, it shows! The writing and production quality of your videos is so so high! I loved the red background with the blue banana and the ‘redblueredblue’ going across the screen! So many little details that just make this (and all your videos) look SO professional! Good job team!

@jcamp321 Жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to organize your bar graphs by the type of test rather than processor? It might give an easier to understand side by side comparison as the graphs don't stay on screen that long.

@vericksworkshop5007 Жыл бұрын

As others have said the new variety of productivity benchmarks is great but as a mechanical engineering student, it would be nice to see benchmarks for CADing softwares too. I'm sure it would be useful for ltt engineers as well. :)

@4473021 Жыл бұрын

May as well have them run FEA benchmarks too lol

@TitanUnleashed7 Жыл бұрын

Yes I complete agree with this! I wanna see Ansys fea simulations lol

@antoine3957 Жыл бұрын

Well, as CAD Software is mostly single threaded you should look mainly at the single core performance

@the_maker1841 Жыл бұрын

I second, also a Mechanical engineering student

@bingbing3464 Жыл бұрын

You should be using gpu acceleration on CAD.

@DarthRambo007 Жыл бұрын

Cant wait for this to be available at my region in 3 yrs

@thepotatopcguy8907 Жыл бұрын

what region are you in?

@mug7692 Жыл бұрын

I feel you man

@JATTI_ Жыл бұрын

Tomorrow (27 september) is the date sales begin world wide. Just confirmed at my local dealer and I live in kind of shitty reagion for computer stuff (prices are high and availibility is slow)

@Edge_of_Sanity Жыл бұрын

ebay?

@woodroemitchell2848 Жыл бұрын

Dang what region is that?

@una-mura Жыл бұрын

i don't even speak spanish (portuguese speaker) but this is so funny lmao

@Drew1Down Жыл бұрын

back to the old FX days with that high power usage

@ashscott6068 Жыл бұрын

What does it matter when GPUs are using over 400 watts?

@ripleyhrgiger4669 Жыл бұрын

The 5800X3D is a beast and I've had nothing but great experiences with it.

@dreku8743 Жыл бұрын

Fr that 3d cache is a Monster

@ahmedrazick4946 Жыл бұрын

A 7800x3d is gonna be so good

@MisterFribble Жыл бұрын

I think it'll go down in history like the i7-4790K. A true monster.

@deweyoogwey Жыл бұрын

glad you guys have friends to impress meanwhile

@serdarcam99 Жыл бұрын

@@MisterFribble i have i7-4790K working on 4.5ghz its still rocks beats even the newest entry level quad cores after all these years

@gehenna_ca Жыл бұрын

AMD has already stated that there will be 3D cache versions of Zen 4. I'm guessing they'll be released after Intel 13000 series drops. It will allow AMD to see significant increases without having to change anything else and still compete with the new Intel chips.

@wandew7057 Жыл бұрын

@Steve Sherman bro what are you talking about late, they weren’t allowed to release a review until today. They would get sued. Second of all, just because amd didn’t quite live up to the hype doesn’t mean that the review was biased.

@jpfidalgo7 Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a good plan. Let’s cross fingers, because we shall not deny any uplifts in performance. Only when the price goes to insanity as well.

@Churchgrimm Жыл бұрын

@@wandew7057 Look at his other comments on the channel, absolutely a troll.

@NigraXXL Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if 3d v cache would technically be compatible with more powerful apus? I'm waiting for the 7th gen apus with rdna3 before upgrading so I can assign the integrated graphics to a VM

@GeekProdigyGuy Жыл бұрын

Intel 13th gen is coming in 1-2 months. 3D V-cache versions of Zen 4 probably won't be released until ~6 months from now, at which point they'll be close to cutting in on their own launch for next year. It's a bit of a weird strategy.

@YoSerLeoZ Жыл бұрын

El track en español me recuerda a los caps viejos en discovery o en history channel. y hace que extrañe el tono de voz de Linus.

@DogWithSwag1 Жыл бұрын

Me gusta el español, no es perfecto pero... Hey, puedo entenderlo!

@Arch3r666 Жыл бұрын

That moment of an experiment of X3D working too well that it becomes the expectation and benchmark new chips needs to actually beat.... AMD should never stop being AMD with all those innovations

@lencas112 Жыл бұрын

rumors say that we can expect zen4 x3d to launch 1/4 quater next year. and if they won't cost 1k would be a beast for a gaming cpu

@riel0563 Жыл бұрын

@@lencas112 it'll probably be 50 to 100 more than the non 3d

@damienjeremytrotman94 Жыл бұрын

@@riel0563 That's a good price.

@dirg3music Жыл бұрын

This seems to be a pattern with AMD, just like with threadripper and EPYC, they're their own biggest competition. You love to see that type of thing, shit like that moves the entire industry forward by putting competitors feet to the fire. Now you've got an Intel that's hungry and actually trying to top the charts. We all win in these exchanges.

@weasle2904 Жыл бұрын

@@riel0563 Definitely not, AMD is going to CRUSH Intel in gaming performance and will probably demand a price premium. Although Intel will likely slash their prices to under cut AMD. Probably will do a similar strategy to last year, cut all CPU prices then release the X3D chips at around the same for slightly higher than previous MSRP.

@rene2778 Жыл бұрын

It would have been nice if the 5800x3d was added in the productivity charts. The gaming numbers were impressive enough to take a second look before upgrading from 5000 series to 7000 series.

@itsmyright2229 Жыл бұрын

Seconded

@karehaqt Жыл бұрын

The extra cache doesn't benefit productivity software as much (if at all) as it does games, hence why the 5800X3D was touted as the CPU for gamers. In some cases it performs worse than the 5800X due to the lower clock speed.

@mrsuperselenio5694 Жыл бұрын

@@karehaqt Hence why I am going for a 5800x instead of 3D, main priority is work, I can live without those extra frames

@keylatheace_dcs127 Жыл бұрын

in productivity, even the 5800X (non 3D) is better, and for the same price you can get a 5900X

@DavidAlfredoGuisado Жыл бұрын

Yes put the 5800X3D running Linux where it consistently outperforms the rest of Zen 3 CPUs in many professional apps.

@lytlejj1408 Жыл бұрын

i was planning a build to replace my HP pre-"build" and wanted to use the ryzen 7 7700x but now im left wondering what cpu i should use for that price range

@yuqi4prez Жыл бұрын

Loving the info here, although I wish you'd have included the 5800X3D in the various sets of benchmarks... I have a 5900X and was thinking the 5800X3D might be a more reasonable upgrade than the 7000 series, since I could retain all my existing hardware. What are your thoughts?

@Kevin-gf4im Жыл бұрын

I did this but I play mmo's. GW2, BDO and wow all 30+fps gains over my 5900x.

@ZboeC5 Жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-gf4im To be fair the 5900/5950 weren't supposed to be the gaming chips. People just tried to make them into that. The 5800X was the sweet spot because all the cores and cache were a single chip instead of the chiplet design where everything works until whatever is in cache gets split or the workload ends up split between the two chiplets which hurts performance. That's why they added the 3D cache to the 5800 and not the 5900/5950 in the first place. It was in the best place to take advantage of that performance uplift. Considering the benchmarks I'd say AMD hit that one square on the head...almost too well.

@berniecat8756 Жыл бұрын

The APUs are extremely helpful for folks who need to do GPU pass through to a virtual machine.

@DeeezNuts Жыл бұрын

thats why i want an AMD cpu, enjoying my time in linux but i just need a better cpu for VM's to play seige and warzone, my i5-7600k wont handle that

@ninammnn Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ThinkAboutVic Жыл бұрын

@@DeeezNuts literally every intel cpu has a variant with iGPUs lmaoo

@avarise5607 Жыл бұрын

@@ThinkAboutVic yes, but more cores = linux kvm happy

@mahfudzk Жыл бұрын

@@ThinkAboutVic F suffix exist

@treloarw Жыл бұрын

Haven’t finished the video yet but. Isn’t this just yet another testament to the badassery of 3d v-cache??? Cannot wait to see results of their first ones on this generation!

@benjaminoechsli1941 Жыл бұрын

Same. Everything they've said about V-cache to date has been along the lines of, "Yeah, the 5800X3D was a beta test. Just wait for next gen. 😎"

@MrYodaBomb Жыл бұрын

I'm sure u finished the video by now, but yes 3D vcache is dope. But my biggest takeaway was the MASSIVE improvement in minimums. That's a very black and white form of progress imo because there is no * for clarity or 'technically correct' when your minimum gains are off the chart.

@jackpowell9276 Жыл бұрын

@@MrYodaBomb Id love to see the charts with only minimum FPS on. It is ultimately, the core experience for gaming.

@DMan-ud6bt Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the fact they aren't releasing a CPU with V-Cache with these others may be the difference that keeps me with Intel - coming from a 10 year old i7-3970X.

@michaelboehme7964 Жыл бұрын

Linus talking about his backpacks warranty: "Trust me bro, I gotchu" Linus talking about buying literally anything else: "Dont purchase a promise" @12:35

@xXx_Regulus_xXx Жыл бұрын

I'm still on gen 1 ryzen, it'll be fun to see what kinds of performance gains I can get and for what prices when I choose to upgrade. I'd actually prefer no onboard gpu since I won't get any use out of it with a dedicated gpu always being in the system, but still, glad red and blue are competing so hard these days

@s_for_short2400 Жыл бұрын

Im just looking at getting a new 3600 for 70$, rest of my pc if good enough 😄

@M4jkelson 11 ай бұрын

@@s_for_short2400 why not 5600?

@s_for_short2400 11 ай бұрын

@@M4jkelson i could, theyre 110$ here

@lol_vevo Жыл бұрын

I know it's kind of a niche thing, but I'm glad all chips have integrated graphics, comes in handy if you want to pass your dedicated graphics card to a VM

@DoubleU159 Жыл бұрын

Integrated graphics would’ve saved me a lot of time troubleshooting when my gtx 1080 just decided to die.

@durschfalltv7505 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. And DDR5 is super usefull for that. I currently run looking glas with a rx 560 and a gtx 760 and a r7 5800x. (i am in the middle of setting it up). A r7 7700x would be perfect since it ahs the beef to power a vm + host and ddr5 enables fast enough vram so you are not limited in resolution or framrate when it comes to your vm. Because i heared igpu's because of it's ram based vram are limited in performance but ddr5 could bring a big boost. Maybe we can see quad hd on a igpu then. i heared 1080p is like the limit with current igpu's. I am really exited.

@a36538 Жыл бұрын

Hasn’t Intel had this for years? Decades even?

@durschfalltv7505 Жыл бұрын

@@a36538 yes. but now ddr5 is more affordable.

@TonyTwo8192 Жыл бұрын

@@a36538 Not all of their chips have it, only some.

@StaySic4Ever Жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly what I expected, very good improvements, but 3D-cache shows it's amazing tech, so definitely waiting for 3D-cache SKU for sure.

@Anxiou5Panda Жыл бұрын

The numbers are getting crazier, but I am mostly impressed with the inclusion of integrated graphics. I think at this point, all CPUs should have it, regardless if it's from Intel, AMD, or even Apple. Really helpful when your graphics card suddenly becomes dysfunctional or just dies and you can't buy a new one right away.

@Mral236d Жыл бұрын

Literally just went through this and luckily my 9900k had integrated graphics on it. My 3090 fan fell off and completely went out on me. Luckily I still had a year and a half left on my warranty so it got replaced, but I would’ve been without a computer that I need for work for over a week if I didn’t have integrated graphics.

@Anxiou5Panda Жыл бұрын

@@Mral236d Glad you still have that warranty mate. Buying a new graphics card these days is just depressing, and yeah, yours is one of the many proofs justifying the inclusion of internal graphics. I got fired because my laptop died on me (although it is not GPU related), but the idea is, without a working desktop/laptop computer, you could have potentially suffered the same experienced I had.

@mannyheffley5481 Жыл бұрын

Gen 3 pentium integrated graphics run most indie games at 60fps

@solips Жыл бұрын

Rewatching it with the spanish audio track!

@GOPACKERSJT Жыл бұрын

I bought a 5700x and put it in my ancient x370 motherboard back in April. I was able to OC it to 4.7Ghz. I think I'm set on the CPU side of things for a few years. It was a MASSIVE upgrade over my 2700x @ 4.2Ghz. I also just got an RX 6750 XT to replace my 1080 ti. This is the first time in nearly 5 years I've refreshed my desktop. It feels good to finally be able to do it for good prices, especially since Zen 3 parts are really cheap right now.

@RYzE_B3Y0ND Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. I just did the same upgrade recently plus went to faster and higher capacity RAM for the cost of the 7600X alone.

@GOPACKERSJT Жыл бұрын

@@RYzE_B3Y0ND I actually upgraded ram as well. I was able to get up to 3800mhz and 1900mhz on the fclock.

@VietboyGamerUSA Жыл бұрын

did you sell your GPU if so how much?

@GOPACKERSJT Жыл бұрын

@@VietboyGamerUSA no I sold my fiance's GTX 1080 to a friend of ours for a deal (he was on a dying r9 290x) and then she took my old 1080 ti.

@quann06 Жыл бұрын

I went from 2700x to 5900x.

@yellowflash511 Жыл бұрын

I take this very positively tbh just imagine Zen 4 3d chips which we know are coming. Zen 4 is great I might build a full AMD build next year, now waiting for Radeon 7000 in Nov.

@Soutar3DG Жыл бұрын

@@_____alyptic Very possibly, with Zen 5 we should be getting more cores as well, using a sort of Big Little design, Zen 5 chiplet and Zen 4c chiplet, the one that's going to be used in Bergamo, the server chip, could be the Zen 5 chiplet has cache on top for pure gaming perf etc, whereas the Zen 4c chiplet is for lower power, more multitasking stuff etc, who knows what might happen.

@Freestyle80 Жыл бұрын

amd fanbois will take everything they do positively, buy the product not the freaking name of the company that made it

@gthakur17 Жыл бұрын

I was ready to jump ship to amd last time but couldn't. Next time i am definitely going for it

@boomdaus Жыл бұрын

Anyone else remember owning a radeon hd 7000 series and was confused for a second

@JosePineda-jn8jk Жыл бұрын

@@Freestyle80 I mean people do that both ways. Just let them be and make a good decision on your platform, that is what I do at least lol.

@CB-zs9ov Жыл бұрын

Hora de buscar comentarios en español

@vallorahn Жыл бұрын

I know that you will read that, Linus ;) From labs I would've expected to see the power draw comparison vs similarly configured Intel system. Maybe simulate 1hr of gaming with the exact same inputs and also maybe a 1hr encoding or rendering job and measure the whole system power draw. Use the same power supply, AIO cooler that has adapters for both intel and AMD, graphics card and RAM and similar mid-range motherboard from the same manufacturer. That would be interesting. Does AMD boost high with high power draw, but being fast, for a very short period, so that the overall power draw is actually less? Taking into account also the needed extra cooling performance, it would be very interesting, measuring the cooling power draw, the CPU power draw and the overall power draw from the wall. You could make it more interesting via making LTT staff bet on which one comes on top in horse race betting style.

@outka5tz Жыл бұрын

I went out on a limb and upgraded my 2nd gen ryzen 5 to a 5800x3d on launch day and this video has made me happy 🤣

@starrims Жыл бұрын

I’m also thinking what to do!

@dtrjones Жыл бұрын

The 5800x3d is starting to suffer though when paired with top-tier GPUs like a 4090, checkout LTT 13900K review goes into more details. However, I imagine you bought this for MSFS and that gives fantastic performance, probably the best in that sim.

@outka5tz Жыл бұрын

@@dtrjones fortunately I don't have to worry about its performance with top tier GPUs because I'll never be able to buy one lol. I play a bit of everything, never got msfs though.

@kleinerroemer85 Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate the productivity benchmarks. In addition I would love to see them normalized over consumed Wh and retailer price though. I guess the absolute numbers make more sense for gaming benchmarks.

@carl-josephkolb1564 Жыл бұрын

I am curious to see their new 7000s laptop versions. I hope they'll extend battery life a bit.

@slaik3088 Жыл бұрын

So if I game on my workstation that I use to encode and edit for example videos, or render, this would be a fantastic apu to have? If I didn't want to be overclocking for lifht gaming, is it possible to have it not be running at 95c, or is that the factory setting?

@nirast2561 Жыл бұрын

Two things I got from this video: - I'll probably upgrade to a 5800X3D soon-ish, then move to AM5 when the 8000 or 9000 series launches. - The design of the new boxes is FIRE!

@endless2239 Жыл бұрын

I'd wait for when they announce the r7 7800x3D for that, either it will be the better option, or the 5800x3D gets a considerable cut in price. Although Idk how "soon-ish" that be.

@dawsongooch4194 Жыл бұрын

I got my B450M, 2600x, and 5700 at a great time back in 2019. Paid like $700 for the whole build. Will probably need to shell out $800-1000 later this year to get a 5800x3D and next gen Radeon GPU, but then I should be set until 9000 or 10000 series. And by then AM5 prices should have dropped nicely

@Milkdromida Жыл бұрын

@@endless2239 The R7 7800x3D will cost far, far more than it'll be worth when factoring in a new motherboard and RAM. For most (including me), The 5800x3D is probably the way to go. Amazon has a sale coming up, and I'm hoping it'll be included. However, I'm still using 2400Mhz RAM, and I don't know whether to upgrade that or just take the 7000 series route.

@ThaexakaMavro Жыл бұрын

im going 5950x and will upgrade to zen 5 or even zen 6

@Milkdromida Жыл бұрын

@@ThaexakaMavro Are you sure that's the right choice? Is gaming your focus or do you do other productivity tasks. If gaming is what you are after, get the 5800x3D

@BigB-ch2ou Жыл бұрын

Now it’s time for their official GPU announcement!

@PyroBlonde7777 Жыл бұрын

@@Noah-lj2sg I hope lol

@DrToonhattan Жыл бұрын

So I've got a first gen Ryzen 1800X from way back in 2017. What kind of performance improvements would I be looking at if I upgraded to a 7000 series Ryzen 9?

@Mr_Tea_Rexx Жыл бұрын

so it isnt worth it atm? i have 3700x so should i get the 5800x instead? or the 7900/50x cause im planning to upgrade later in the year slowly over time.

@eriatarka1983 Жыл бұрын

I have a feeling my 5800X & RTX 3070 combo is going to hold me over for quite a few years.

@Finckelstein Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't it? It's an amazing mid-range budget combo. They're supposed to hold for a few years. Even my 5800h/3070 Laptop is going to hold for years to come. Upgrading every other year is economically and ecologically unfeasbible.

@Terepin64 Жыл бұрын

The low VRAM is a limitation even in some of today's games. And it'll get only worse with time.

@ChrisGreeceChris Жыл бұрын

YEAP no need to upgrade!

@superblitz2274 Жыл бұрын

@@Finckelstein man in what world is 5800x 3070 "budget" lmao

@Aaron14LifeZZZ Жыл бұрын

@@superblitz2274 lol i was like wth is the guy talking about, thats high end

@mitchellj.9360 Жыл бұрын

Linus, LOVE the results of Lab. Super excited to see how much more depth you guys will get in these reviews as time goes on.

@RamBoZamBo123 Жыл бұрын

This was probably just Anthony doing his benchmark magic.

@aaronchamberlain4698 Жыл бұрын

@@RamBoZamBo123 Sounds like they were using their new game automation test sweet. Also, those relative performance graphs are new I think. Don’t think they’ve done that before.

@kinpact6100 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering why in their CS:GO testing that the 12600K was behind Ryzen 5000 when in their review for alder Lake they showed the 12600K beating almost all AMD's CPUS?

@techwolflupindo Жыл бұрын

Was these tests done with Spectre1/2 mitigation on or off?

@midnightwolf7417 Жыл бұрын

So should I get the new 7950x for my gaming and work rig

@thanlan Жыл бұрын

The 5800x3D was a beast (for gamers atleast) just imagine the new 3d cpus that we know that are coming!

@CakePrincessCelestia Жыл бұрын

It still is and will be for quite some time I suppose... and even the non-3D is.

@spookyskellyskeleton609 Жыл бұрын

@@CakePrincessCelestia next year q1 that's soon bruh

@TheK9music Жыл бұрын

@@OC.TINYYY Source?

@spookyskellyskeleton609 Жыл бұрын

@@OC.TINYYY "doubt it" and yet to claim meteor lake will surely come out next year q2 . You know intel just missed its official gpu date?🃏

@Joe-wk9ow Жыл бұрын

I can't wait for the 3d v-cache and I hope they put the cache on more than just the 8 core models this time.

@midnightshade32 Жыл бұрын

Are these apus the same tech as in steamdeck or ps5? (For the graphics side)

@wellmas Жыл бұрын

Hello. I am looking to build my second computer for audio recording. I built an i5 around 8 years ago. It does OK but is only a 3.4 Ghz and limited. I am wanting to get the Ryzen 7 7700x (First AMD Build). I am mating this with the MSI PROX670 Motherboard and toping it off with 64 gigs of RAM. Is this a good combo for the application? I will be running the stock graphics in the CPU as my DAW doesn't require much for graphics. Thanks for any input.

@TheOmegaRiddler Жыл бұрын

By the time I see these upgrades, the prices will come down to where AM4 are now. I'll be sticking with my 5800X for now.

@tardvandecluntproductions1278 Жыл бұрын

I got the same chip, idk why anyone would hop over that fast. My I7 2600K lasted 9 years, I'm sure the 5800X will do fine for at least 8 years with gaming.

@Hawkywind Жыл бұрын

And quite honestly, If it did come to upgrading. the 5800X3D would be a better upgrade from say a 5600x(In my rig) value wise than swapping to Zen 4, buying new Mobo and RAM AND the CPU itself.

@gamingpriests Жыл бұрын

CPU's are very long lasting parts. I've never owned one for shorter than 5 years and I've never had a single issue in anything I needed to do with it. Buying a good CPU once every 5 or even 6 years is the way to go.

@TheOmegaRiddler Жыл бұрын

@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 Yeah, and as I said, prices for AM5 and DDR5 will have dropped to where AM4 is now when I need to build a new PC. The only upgrade I'm considering is the 5800X 3D

@eduardoarancibia169 Жыл бұрын

I'm happy with my 3800x

@tokiomitohsaka7770 Жыл бұрын

I am super happy to see the LTT lab results! Hope we get a tour of the finished lab soon.

@DarkP1 Жыл бұрын

a tour? geez go to disneyland, people wanting to see something that boring like another people room computers are sad

@ZNotFound Жыл бұрын

@@DarkP1 Just because you don't find it interesting doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it.

@DarkP1 Жыл бұрын

@@ZNotFound I know you guys will enjoy it a lot, that's the sad part

@tokiomitohsaka7770 Жыл бұрын

@@DarkP1 I think Disneyland is boring, labs and computers are always interesting!

@HyperScorpio8688 Жыл бұрын

I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that the 3D V-cache processors are all ready to launch, and only wait for Raptor Lake to launch. If it'sonly gonna be half as mpressive an uplift as it was on the 5800X3D, and Raptor Lake only brings 5-10% extra performance... That'd be sweet

@JrPlays Жыл бұрын

For the first time in my life from making my way up the ladder I’ve hit the purchase on the 7950x as my gaming station is also my primary workstation. Excited as all heck

@julians2k917 Жыл бұрын

How is it? Im also using my pc for work and gaming. Still running 9900k. Been thinking to get an new rtx4000 or building a new system with the 7950x

@JrPlays Жыл бұрын

@@julians2k917 the life of my vms being able to have basically the computing power of my original pc has never been better. I’m currently running jt with my 3070, I don’t play too demanding games to see a reason to go to 4000 series yet. But the cpu was definitely worry it Edit if you want to see the beginnings of my KZfaq channel work see it at the channel @codewithj3625

@julians2k917 Жыл бұрын

@@JrPlays Thx! im looking into it too but maybe i will just upgrade to a 4090 for now because i mostly need gpu power for my work and wait for the 7000xd to release.

@xDLiLi1337 Жыл бұрын

7950x is overkill for gaming... Buy a 7600x and get a better graphics card

@ncjim Жыл бұрын

Why would you do that? Wait 8 months and get the 7800x3d for gaming. Itll blow every game out of the water

@joncarter3761 Жыл бұрын

Looking forwards to the gaming focused 7800X 3D and 7600X 3D reviews, I have a feeling they'll be held until after Intel announces 13th gen though so AMD can decide on how to price them.

@ligametis Жыл бұрын

Who cares about 3D versions? They are worse

@beemrmem3 Жыл бұрын

@@ligametis no

@g45h96 Жыл бұрын

I'd love a 7900 or 7950x3D considering how the performance has been proven.

@g45h96 Жыл бұрын

@@ligametis did you literally not watch the video?

@ligametis Жыл бұрын

@@g45h96 I watched. 3D version is useless. It cost more and performed worse in productivity. And who really cares if you get 200 or 240fps on the best GPU. In realistic scenario GPU will bottleneck way earlier than cpu

@matthewwatt3284 Жыл бұрын

Currently use Ansys day-to-day for CAE/simulation work, which apparently benefits significantly from AVX-512 in terms of Mechanical. Would love to know the difference in solution times between Ryzen 5000 and 7000 chips to see how real this is. Also would just be awesome to see some CAE specific benchmarks/content!

@krzysztof6123 Жыл бұрын

@schuey7 Жыл бұрын

Check out avx512 review on linux

@MagicalWizard223 Жыл бұрын

You should watch Level1Techs and Level1Linux channel. They have just put out a video on Ryzen 7000 and will cover these benchmarks.

@bluspectre2042 Жыл бұрын

@@krzysztof6123 ++

@timotheus34 Жыл бұрын

Check out the review from Hardware unboxed, they covered AVX-512 Performance. (Although they´ve only covered the 7600x yet, you should be able to extrapolate from that)

@quietyoutuber Жыл бұрын

I have a Hp Tp01 2066 with a Ryzen 7 pc but I want to add a video card to this hp computer can you help me and tell me what card will fit and work in the pc computer

@breakhart Жыл бұрын

I wonder why the heck AMD doing, they done very good at LGA model in Threadripper or Epyc.

@fried28056 Жыл бұрын

Would have liked to have seen underclocking covered in this review as other publications have shown a drastic reduction in power and temps with almost no performance loss.

@MIBxSpartan Жыл бұрын

I want to see a video on how different DDR5 speed effects performance now. Been hearing 6000 MHz is the sweet spot but does that mean it’s pointless to get faster ram?

@luk4s195 Жыл бұрын

for games there is at least no difference between 6000 and 6400. and everything beyond is way too expensive for only measurable gain

@ChristianBrugger Жыл бұрын

Also higher speeds only increase the memory bandwidth, not the latency. And that bandwidth is not very useful in games, which fully use only a few of the cores.

@CRneu Жыл бұрын

ram speeds aren't really impactful on everyday life. it's one aspect you really shouldn't focus on too much. The price difference in speeds does not equate to the same difference in performance.

@benjaminoechsli1941 Жыл бұрын

I don't know. Steve at Hardware Unboxed found a 7% uplift in performance from using 6400. I think it may depend on your chip.

@johnnypopstar Жыл бұрын

Hardware Unboxed dove in to that in their video today, have a look there

@tashima42 Жыл бұрын

El audio en español no es perfecto, pero es increíble lo que una AI puede hacer, muchas gracias por hacer el contenido más accessible LTT.

@gabrielfernandez4503 Жыл бұрын

Es una AI?! Pense que era un doblaje bastante deficiente del animo de Linus. Pero al ser AI cambiaria mi opinion a asombro.

@joelcoll4034 Жыл бұрын

Los sutitulos siguen siendo una opcion mucho mejor

@Rouxenator Жыл бұрын

Does he have the teleprompter slide advance under his right sleeve? What is with the squeezing of that arm all the time?

@goromir7093 Жыл бұрын

For me the 580x3d was like a gift by amd for all the people who wanted a final upgrade for their am4 platform Everyone can enjoy more performance, even if they want to upgrade to a new platform or not. It's a win win situation in my opinion

@vivago727 Жыл бұрын

At the one hand, yes, you can upgrade a b350 with ryzen 5800x3d for amazing gaming performance. But if you're like me and build a pc at the start of ryzen you probably still use the same gpu as back then. got a r5 1600 and a 1070ti. If i would get a 5800x3d i would leave so much performance on the table if i didn't upgrade my gpu as well. If you factor this in it's probably not worth it so it'd be better to wait for a ryzen 7000x3d cpu instead and upgrade the whole pc.

@torukmahtomahto409 Жыл бұрын

@@vivago727 you can upgrade to 5600 non x for 150 till 8000x3d and lower ddr5 prices for a nice bump

@Caseycallender Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that and it was a preview for what's to come when they release the AM5 X3D chips toward the end of the year 👀👀. Can't wait, these are the new sauce, Intel can still suuuuccckkkkk iiiittttt.

@tiestofalljays Жыл бұрын

In some ways, I regret getting a 5900X. Oh well, I'm GPU bound anyways haha.

@VilasNil Жыл бұрын

11:25 How is higher power consumption under load better? Shouldn't it be the other way around? I could be mistaken though

@CypherBTW Жыл бұрын

i have a lian li galahad 240, is this cooler is good enough for this cpu?

@bobbyshaftoe Жыл бұрын

Have you looked into the "extra-thick" lid heat transfer problem? Apparently direct cooling and lid shaving are the way to get high 'all core' speeds reliably..

@khalilahd. Жыл бұрын

Random but I just wanted to say I’m starting to dip my toe into the tech world and your videos have helped me out a lot so thank you 🙏🏽

@b34k97 Жыл бұрын

Felling much better about trading my 5900x for a 5800x3D (main games are Star Citizen and Flight Simulator). Will definitely be waiting for the x3D variants for the 7000 series before upgrading.

@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 Жыл бұрын

Yup bought my 5800X3D for Star Citizen. Made an enormous difference. Well worth the money I dropped on it even though I had to buy a CPU watercooler for it on top of the CPU.

@weasle2904 Жыл бұрын

@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 I have a single tower 120mm air cooler, I just do -30 CO offset and it runs very cool. AMD seems to have binned the 5800x3d really good and it undervolts like a boss

@steveredstone1711 Жыл бұрын

Literally came here from RSI website.

@1981AdamGs Жыл бұрын

I debated and debated over upgrading from the 3700x to the 5900x or the 5800x3d. I settled on the 5900x for the extra cores. Which come in handy for some of the work I do. But it was a tough decision. That 5800x3d is no joke.

@Ryan-re1rs Жыл бұрын

@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 a 58003d isn't much or any better then a 5900 in most games..

@Owen-np3wf Жыл бұрын

The new 3D models will be where it's at and should justify the buy in cost to the new platform as long as it's supported for 3 or 4 CPU releases.

@keithvlogs1 10 ай бұрын

Ahouls they be compared to the 6000 series ryzen?? And not the 5000?

@THEMISOGYNISER Жыл бұрын

i love LGA sockets,no more fear of pulling the cpu cooler and grabbing the cpu with it

@woodroemitchell2848 Жыл бұрын

yooooo… I was so scared when this happened to me on my first time.

@khalilahd. Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@johnricang8791 Жыл бұрын

@@woodroemitchell2848 same lmao, I even cried because I dont know if its broken or something. My parents will surely get angry with me but thankfully, it still boots up. Lesson learned, dont use the pre applied thermal paste from the amd cooler AHHAHAHAHAH

@VigneshBalasubramaniam Жыл бұрын

I prefer PGA. It's easier to fix the pins.

@myPHPnotes Жыл бұрын

Plot twist. What if the stucked CPU drops on Motherboard pins? :P

@scottf136 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a gradient of benchmarks from 8th or 9th gen Intel to current gen or 13th gen. I am sporting a 9900k and I am starting to feel it struggle on applications like Photoshop, Lightroom, DNG Converter, and Premier. I see a lot of comparison of the new stuff with last gen, but I imagine most people are going be coming off of older gen CPUs and wondering, what will be the best value for their workflow in the next gen of Intel or AMD. Video comparisons I have seen have mostly been game related, and the FPS improvements, while better, were nothing that made me think I need to run out and get a 12900k over my 9900k. But an array of benchmarks across multiple work domains would be more useful.

@ScrewFearMe Жыл бұрын

I have an Intel 8700k and I feel like it's time to upgrade, just dont have any money to upgrade to anything to atm. xD

@vik6092 Жыл бұрын

@@ScrewFearMe i got you bro

@BikeHelmetMk2 Жыл бұрын

@@ScrewFearMe That's kind of the big problem. Linus didn't really cover it well, but the power rate per kwh has been trending upward all across North America, with some places (like parts of California) being nuts. If you use your computer for many hours per day, that 150 watt difference between AMD and Intel adds up to thousands of dollars over the life of the computer. (Unless you get free power. But then someone else is paying it.) Thousands of dollars is a lot of parts upgrades. Most of my friends that went Intel are sporting upper midrange chips, while most of my friends that went AMD just opted for the highest tier, often with GPUs a notch higher too - and still save money over time due to that lower power consumption. It's way easier to collect the money to upgrade if you're not flushing tons more away on your power bill.

@qwin3846 Жыл бұрын

but what about coolers are there coolers/ AIO's out there for the am5 socket????

@ricecakevideos2 Жыл бұрын

Anybody here just to hear Linus in Spanish?

@zsombo12 10 ай бұрын

@eloypadilla4758 10 ай бұрын

Nope, I'm Hispanic from Panama but whenever the video starts on spanish I just put it back to og audio

@LulaksHD Жыл бұрын

In the power consumption graph, I think the score is better when lower not higher (11:20)

@snintendog Жыл бұрын

Not in an Intel fanboys mind. /s Though good spot.

@th3c05m05 Жыл бұрын

awesome work with the labs! can't wait to see yall integrate them more into your videos

@neomis0119 Жыл бұрын

On my z690 Hero- upgrading my alder lake 12900k to raptor lake 13900k, do you guys think I will need to reinstall OS?

@Vivek_Z Жыл бұрын

If you are upgrading the CPU on the same motherboard - No. If you are upgrading/changing the motherboard - then Yes.

@KHROMATICxKHAOS Жыл бұрын

Was on the fence about the 5800X3D then heard about all the announcements, hoping AMD would show off the next generation X3D, kind of disappointed but now I will get to wait and see what Intel brings to the table and see AMD's 3D chips as well. Leaning towards AMD for future proofing for the first time since the FX-4170...

@PlayWaves1 Жыл бұрын

Also AMD is expected to launch the 7800X3D in Q1 of 2023.

@Marco_Onyxheart Жыл бұрын

If you run these in eco mode, they're barely any slower but just want 65W. These CPUs have excellent performance per watt. They're just not that great outside of eco mode (although still decent).

@jbasasa Жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one. Me too sometimes I just wanted to put only 65W only all the time but I think AMD should thought of that

@ffwast Жыл бұрын

Gotta crank up the power draw for those release review benchmarks!

@RicochetForce Жыл бұрын

These REALLY should run out of the box in Eco Mode, with an option to "blow the doors off". Because CPUs that require a damn ND-15 for regular operation, and the higher tier pair requiring AIOs is dumb as fuck.

@ElVid Жыл бұрын

i made the right decision to buy the 5800x3d and not waiting for am5, i was always suspicius when amd did not talk about their own latest linupe

@ElVid Жыл бұрын

@Steve Sherman well i had 32 gb of ddr4 ram and a 3700x already, buying a new mainboard and ddr5 was a bit questionable. this will be my last cpu upgrade for this console gen probably

@Sinesterr Жыл бұрын

its not as bad as this review made it out, just look at other reviews and you see that the 7600x is faster tan the 5800x3D plenty of times

@Mettalhorde Жыл бұрын

hi Linus plss help I have 1 question I cannot find whats caousing problem to my laptop I have 100% battery sudenly my laptop instant shut dawns and whe nI turn it on it has 0 % battery I think something is wrong with battery but Im not sure can somethyng else couse that problem

@ahartakpower Жыл бұрын

can someone give me tips plesse? I'm still using amd fx 8350x with 1070 should i go for amd 7x series and rtx 4k? or just go for 5x series and rtx 3k?

@WilliamBoothClibborn Жыл бұрын

I love how complete this review is. All the information for most applications! Having benchmarks for scientific computing or ML could be interesting?

@dirg3music Жыл бұрын

Most likely, I have a feeling these will undervolt really well, Ryzen usually does in my experience.

@DailyCorvid Жыл бұрын

@@dirg3music Using AMD software you can do an automatic undervolt or overclock, which usually cuts power draw by a third or increases performance by 15% respectively.

@dirg3music Жыл бұрын

@@DailyCorvid yeah eco mode in ryzen master is pretty effective for lowering power draw, I'm sure if you really dial it in like 1usmus you can get some bonkers efficiency and/or performance improvements too. I think it's easy to get caught up in the way cpus/gpus are configured out of the box but in reality you can quite often dial things back and end up with an even better product if you're willing to take the time to get under the hood.

@SkyyMi Жыл бұрын

Fantastic coverage on the new lineup. Thank you. It feels really good to see some competition again between Rlue and Red.

@XxFayssalxX Жыл бұрын

The thumbnail is kinda klickbaity tho

@666MaRius9991 Жыл бұрын

@@XxFayssalxX it is what it is lol they gotta pay their staff

@scrubscrub4492 Жыл бұрын

Rlue

@bingbing3464 Жыл бұрын

@@XxFayssalxX how so? Getting beaten by its previous gen in gaming and by thread counts almost equal to intel's 12th gen in productivity. Intel's 13th gen i9 will have equal thread count with the 7950X so the current productivity crown may not last.

@UffeProductions Жыл бұрын

Great video. The graphs however are a thorn in the eye - some data visualization best practices will go a long way :)

@Shogoeu Жыл бұрын

Are there any comparison with 13th generation or not yet?

@cromefire_ Жыл бұрын

The boost in encoding in Handbrake (ffmpeg) might very well be AVX512, because basically every encoder supports AVX512

@jmhagle Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think you are right, because 11900k was disappointing in a lot of benchmarks except in avx 512 workloads.

@paulbrooks4395 Жыл бұрын

If you’re a sim, RTS, or VR gamer, the X3D is simply better. Simulations and high unit counts are cache-limited. VR has to reuse data for each frame pair. Cache is life for those. It also helps minimum FPS and stuttering immensely.

@MrHussain99x Жыл бұрын

I've currently running a Ryzen 5 3600 and a 1060 3GB, which cpu and gpu should I upgrade to for 1440p 144hz?

@THEK0TU Жыл бұрын

Could these numbers improve with bios updates and driver updates as the product ages?

@johndoh5182 Жыл бұрын

Why didn't you all talk about ECO mode? I saw some stats on it and it's VERY impressive. Dropping down to 105W TDP which drops power consumption by a substantial amount but performance barely drops??

@bat_daddy6455 Жыл бұрын

The most impressive chip is the 5800x3D imo. The fact that it managed to hold up so we'll in gaming against their new CPUs while being on a zen 3 microarchitecture is impressive