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Titus Tech Talk

Titus Tech Talk

8 ай бұрын

A linux user sent me a letter saying he was having TONs of problems. .
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@TurntableTV
@TurntableTV 7 ай бұрын
If Brodie Robertson, Distrotube, The Linux Cast or Chris Titus says "This is the best distro ever and I'm staying on it" take it with a grain of salt. It might work for them or it might work for them for a while but it might not work for you.
@gwgux
@gwgux 7 ай бұрын
Exactly right. It's not that they don't know what they're talking about, but everyone's mileage will vary. Not everyone is into the minimalist WM setup they like to use on camera for example. The distros put a lot of time and effort into their default settings from software selection to the theme and colors of the desktop environment they default to. These defaults serve a purpose for a lot of people and should not be written off IMO.
@F_Around_and_find_out
@F_Around_and_find_out 7 ай бұрын
Yep. I started my journey with Arch Linux, because Mutahar (SomeOrdinaryGamers) uses it and he has a full guide on how to install Arch. It was an eye opening journey because for more than half a decade I was and still am primarily use Windows. After a month or so I moved on, realizing that having to do everything by hand is not for me: clearing the root directory of old caches for example. Next was opensuse and it was a good distro, but it feels slow so I put it as an emergency distro, something to come back to. Then I entered the Void, which I consider is easier Arch, even manually partitioning my drive, something I learned from Mutahar’s arch install. I have no plans for distro hopping atm, or any time soon.
@GSBarlev
@GSBarlev 7 ай бұрын
I switched to Hyprland because of Brodie, only to find out that Brodie hasn't been able to use Hyprland in months because of an OBS incompatibility. No regrets-Hyprland is sweet, and I don't need OBS on that system, but yeah, this is good advice.
@ringo8410
@ringo8410 7 ай бұрын
Those guys are all great; very knowledgable. I'm a fan of them all. But they're all seasoned Linux users with years of experience. If new Linux users want pointers, I would recommend someone more like Jay LaCroix over at Learn Linux TV. He might be more beginner friendly than jumping straight into something like Arch.
@nixlad
@nixlad 7 ай бұрын
Mutahar is a grifter. @@F_Around_and_find_out
@Centomila
@Centomila 7 ай бұрын
To prevent breaking Linux, it's quite simple: refrain from copying and pasting everything you find online if you're unsure of what the command accomplishes.
@Fuxy22
@Fuxy22 7 ай бұрын
True. Also quitting cold turkey is a bad choice... better to just slowly transition and find the things you like and work for you... otherwise you are going to be frustrated at not finding what you need from the start.
@soulstenance
@soulstenance 7 ай бұрын
Breaking stuff is how you learn though. Shouldn't be afraid to break things, but you should always, always back up before doing anything you're unsure of. I love Timeshift for this.
@Centomila
@Centomila 7 ай бұрын
@@soulstenance Just to clarify, I also enjoy experimenting with new things. However, I prefer not to do this on my primary computer :D. Ever since ChatGPT was introduced, I've been pasting every unknow command into it, seeking detailed explanations, and determining if the command can resolve my issue.
@rafaelgil6895
@rafaelgil6895 7 ай бұрын
Or use an immutable distro. Then, if you manage to break anything just roll it back.
@fnorgen
@fnorgen 7 ай бұрын
Oh that's great advice! Noobs need to spend a few days reading up on how their OS works before they get to install the software they need. That should help with adoption. Seriously though, the persistent reliance on the command line is a large part of what scares normies away from desktop Linux. Not helped by the fact that all these distros are maintained by nerds who actually enjoy endlessly tinkering with their OS, and wo prefer to just use the command line because it's faster. Meanwhile, casual users who don't care to know how any if this stuff works are conditioned to mindlessly copypaste to the command line, because that's usually what the install instructions tell them to do whenever they look for the programs they need. If I want an OS for my mom, it's a complete non-starter if she ever has to input anything to the command line. The command line is scary arcane magic she happily abandoned in the early 90's. To be fair, I could easily set up Mint to be the perfect OS for her. However she would forever be reliant on me if she needed to install anything new. Something like Steam OS is probably the answer, because it's not made for Linux users.
@ChimeraGilbert
@ChimeraGilbert 7 ай бұрын
I understand where he’s coming from. I’ve been using Linux for a couple years now and I’m by no means an expert, but I’ve had many issues that have almost broke my system. There’s less of the abstraction windows provides. You have to jump through a few extra hurdles but honestly it’s worth it knowing I actually own my computer and operating system
@RandomGeometryDashStuff
@RandomGeometryDashStuff 7 ай бұрын
​is threre any computer os that doesn't require searching on google for solutions?
@DV-ml4fm
@DV-ml4fm 7 ай бұрын
Linux mint is that distro. It's targeted for people new to linux. If one can't use LM then no linux will be for him/her.
@CrudeSausage
@CrudeSausage 7 ай бұрын
@@DV-ml4fm Linux Mint on my mom's Intel NUC wouldn't allow her to use her desktop speakers because the OS insisted that she must use the ones connected to the HDMI monitor. The problem is that there were _no_ speakers connected to the monitor. In fact, the monitor didn't have any kind of a connector allowing her to plug speakers to them. I had to install stuff to force the system not to use HDMI for that purpose. After an update, my changes were erased and what I originally did to fix the issue could not be done again. In fact, this time, the pulseaudio daemon would get stuck in memory no matter how often you reloaded it and wouldn't even allow her to change the setting from HDMI to speakers connected to the headphone jack. Then, when the audio components were reinstalled in the hope of fixing the experience, the machine would allow her to boot into a black screen. Stellar stuff, really.
@CrudeSausage
@CrudeSausage 7 ай бұрын
That's like saying "that Mercedes over there drives wonderfully whereas this piece of shit Fiat can barely roll for one kilometre without having smoke come out of the engine compartment... but at least I own it."
@tufab3494
@tufab3494 7 ай бұрын
You talk like if windows users didn't own their PC's 😂 Pathetic
@louisfifteen
@louisfifteen 7 ай бұрын
In the EU Microsoft is forced to make apps removeable. Nice move....
@Xaito
@Xaito 7 ай бұрын
still doesn't fix all the telemetry, forced updates, sometimes with new software you didn't ask for or agree with and an unpalatable user agreement. Windows went from a proprietary OS on your computer to a interface for Microsoft to assimilate your computer into the Microsoft cloud infrastructure.
@TitusTechTalk
@TitusTechTalk 7 ай бұрын
Yet, in the latest 23H2 US version they blocked HKCR access and has made removing things like OneDrive harder. I'll always find a way to debloat it, but don't think for a second Microsoft will change there ways.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 7 ай бұрын
@@TitusTechTalk I will be changing my region settings to Ireland.
@Xaito
@Xaito 7 ай бұрын
@@TitusTechTalk That's what rubbed me the wrong way ever since at least Windows 8. They'd shove stuff in I didn't like. They installed more data taps, reset your opt-out configs after updates. They try to hardwire their onedrive services into the OS. I was thinking back then that I'd need to move away from Windows eventually, because a OS that you have to fight every step of the way and re-check after every update is inherently untrustworthy. And having a untrustworthy OS is kind of a big deal. I wanted to boycott Windows 10, but home office work kind of forced me to work with it and I begrudgingly accepted it. Also Linux gaming wasn't where it's at today. Microsoft's recent push to force their severely under-tested AI stuff and the dystopian user agreements that came alongside with that push finally did it for me.
@louisfifteen
@louisfifteen 7 ай бұрын
@@Xaito True, but it's a forst step an a very steep ladder.
@leonidas14775
@leonidas14775 7 ай бұрын
Don't make "switching to linux" the goal. Find an old computer you don't care about in addition to your windows computer and experiment with it, learn the distros' strengths and weaknesses, and how to tweak it to your liking. Some things are done easier on windows, and there's nothing wrong with using both.
@mightza3781
@mightza3781 5 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, a computer is a tool like a razor. Using Linux is like using a DE safety razor, they have advantages and disadvantages over proprietary cartridge razors, but once it becomes a hobby, it can become more costly than the just using the cartridge razor especially if you don't actually enjoy shaving. Most people don't like using a computer and just have it as an internet appliance 99% of the time which is why Mac and Chromebooks work. Unless Linux solves a problem in your life, like breathing new life into old hardware, need to run servers or you are Google, Valve or even some Chinese company that makes emulation handhelds hoping to push a new device category with lean free pre-written software to base off of, there is little reason to experiment. Most people will just use whatever that's preinstalled and works; it's only worth trying something else if the current thing isn't working.
@stephenriggs8177
@stephenriggs8177 7 ай бұрын
I tried it for a month. For media consumption, ie, Facebook and KZfaq, it was great. A lot of times, I forgot which OS I was running. But all the desktop apps I tried were inferior. I never even got around to trying games, because I was so busy troubleshooting other things. Finally, I asked myself why I was doing this. It wasn't to save money or enhance my privacy. And I never found a Linux-only killer app that made it worth the effort. So I set it aside with no regrets.
@thepathnotfound
@thepathnotfound 7 ай бұрын
Steam gaming is one area that’s looking very promising
@TheZeroAssassin
@TheZeroAssassin 6 ай бұрын
Inferior?AHahaha, sure troll
@kaindow455
@kaindow455 6 ай бұрын
Until Adobe make the jump over to Linux in some cases this is true, I think Photoshop is still superior to GIMP. I grant you for the majority of apps though this isn't true.​@@TheZeroAssassin
@rameynoodles152
@rameynoodles152 6 ай бұрын
His complaints are valid. What's the alternative to photoshop? Gimp. Gimp is definitely inferior. What's an alternative to Pro Tools or Ableton? Yeah, you know what they are, and theyre buggy piles of crap.
@KeyT3ch
@KeyT3ch 7 ай бұрын
I mean, imagine buying a Steam Handheld/Console, and then it breaks every now and then due to "Linux" issues. I think Valve has done a great job in ensuring the stability of its gaming focused OS. Now we just need other distros to do what it does
@qunas101
@qunas101 7 ай бұрын
Other distros can't do this because there's no way every distro becomes immutable. But some options, like Vanilla OS would be great
@GSBarlev
@GSBarlev 7 ай бұрын
I can't ever see daily driving an immutable FS on my primary system-I prefer to deal with potential breakages with Timeshift-but immutable systems typically also implement _isolation,_ and I really appreciate that element of the design in Nix, distrobox, flatpak, pipx and conda.
@Morokiane
@Morokiane 7 ай бұрын
They can't...Valve like Apple controls the hardware so they can tailor and fine tune SteamOS perfectly to the hardware they have selected.
@eekee6034
@eekee6034 6 ай бұрын
@@Morokiane Yes, and the converse too. It's always been a problem that many hardware developers test only with Windows, but Valve can select hardware which works well with Linux.
@johnvanwinkle4351
@johnvanwinkle4351 7 ай бұрын
While Linux is not for everyone, neither is Windows or MacOS. What I am thankful for as a user is choice.
@JM-bl3ih
@JM-bl3ih 5 ай бұрын
windows is more for everyone than linux is thats for sure
@JM-bl3ih
@JM-bl3ih 5 ай бұрын
windows is more for everyone than linux is thats for sure
@joriskemper5392
@joriskemper5392 5 ай бұрын
​@@JM-bl3ihExept it isn't.. more people use Unix and even Linux based systems daily.
@wraithblastalx6466
@wraithblastalx6466 4 ай бұрын
@@joriskemper5392 By that logic, lots of people use "freeBSD" for gaming. Except they dont because ps4 isnt really using freeBSD , its just using a highly customized fork of it . And thats what android is to linux wich is what i assume you tried to refer to. Not the same as linux desktop
@MrDowntemp0
@MrDowntemp0 7 ай бұрын
I completely agree with your assesment of SteamOS. I've done some silly stuff to mine, and yet haven't broken it, whereas any of my other distro installs wouldn't have survived my tinkering. But it is still kind of annoying to tinker with because of that. But for certain, the immutable/containerized space of linux is really coming up with some interesting stuff, and in some way the future of the OS is there.
@gearfriedtheswmas
@gearfriedtheswmas 7 ай бұрын
The more powerful an os is the easy it is to break.
@soulstenance
@soulstenance 7 ай бұрын
I will say that KDE, in desktop mode has broken for me, but that might just be KDE. I have, several times had the taskbar vanish for me with no explanation. Game mode is pretty solid though. Best console ever.
@MrDowntemp0
@MrDowntemp0 7 ай бұрын
@@soulstenance Haha, yeah that's fair. KDE is less stable than I'd like, and I've messed a few settings up in kwin by installing plugins and removing them but not having their settings restore. But not critical or unfixable issues. I like KDE. But I do think its kinda strange Steam chose it for the deck instead of something more lightweight and less complex like LXQT or XFCE.
@soulstenance
@soulstenance 7 ай бұрын
@@MrDowntemp0 I do like KDE, it's second only to Cinnamon for me. KDE is more fleshed out than the ones you mentioned, that might be why they went with it. It's also more familiar to Windows users. I put an XP theme on my Steamdeck KDE for nostalgia. 😂
@gwgux
@gwgux 7 ай бұрын
@@soulstenance That is most likely the reason why they chose it. The familiarity to Windows users who may be buying the SteamDeck to take their library with them and may need to use desktop mode for some things as many Windows gamers like to tinker.
@coladict
@coladict 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that stable distro that just works is just around the corner 🤣 Any year now they'll come up with the golden egg where everyone agrees that this is the standard directory layout and this is where all the dynamic libraries will be and this is where all the compile headers will be, and it will have one packaging system bla di bla di bla. I've worked with Linux for the past 8 years. I knew nothing when I started and was forced to become an expert at it in the first few months just to keep it running. A common problem I ran into is that everyone who documents things for it expects you to know the terminology for that particular piece of software to such a degree that you wouldn't need a manual if you did. It's always "just configure this file with your own settings" and you're left to wonder what the majority of those do if you even find an example configuration to start with.
@patrickcardon1643
@patrickcardon1643 7 ай бұрын
If it's man made, it's not going to be stable lol. Not even nature or the universe is stable ...
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI 7 ай бұрын
I hear you. But I suspect that any real standard for OS layout is going to be a long time happening. Too many cooks in this kitchen, grin.
@SergeyVolkov
@SergeyVolkov 6 ай бұрын
We need at least 14 incompatible standards, otherwise it would not be linux.
@eekee6034
@eekee6034 6 ай бұрын
Pretty-much my thoughts too. I've been a Linux user since 1998, and the really good Linux has been "just around the corner" the entire time! @@BWGPEI has it exactly right with "Too many cooks in this kitchen." When I use a Unix at all any more, it's OpenBSD or FreeBSD because they develop the whole OS as a single unit. Neither have large enough teams to make much of a desktop OS though. Also, "too many cooks" was a Unix problem before Linux. It wasn't so bad as every vendor developed an OS rather than merely packaging parts, but inconsistencies arose as different innovations were made by different people, and now those inconsistencies are THE STANDARD.
@brod515
@brod515 6 ай бұрын
it's strange for me because the documentation one of the best things transitioning into linux ( even thoug I dont think documentation is part of the unix philosophyy ). I find it quite helpful that most commands have a man page with information about things work.
@MaS-ch2id
@MaS-ch2id 7 ай бұрын
Thanks to the many linux channels and Chris here, I plunged into Linux, and after a unstable Fedora 38+KDE+Wayland experience - OpenSuse Tumbleweed with KDE and Wayland is rock solid for me, no bugs I found aside Firefox once crashing, and I got everything working. Installing from ventoy stick though added an unwanted kernel start parameter which I had to delete in order to boot after installing, but hey, it works. So hang in there :) And Chris, thanks for the motivation.
@Panomition
@Panomition 7 ай бұрын
The most important skill as a regular desktop Linux user is to be able to quickly reinstall your entire system and get up and running without losing data.
@netsudro
@netsudro 7 ай бұрын
That was the most important skill when I had my first computer and reinstalled windows 98 every week. You break stuff, you learn, it works in the end.
@lesath7883
@lesath7883 6 ай бұрын
That is a pretty shitty skill to develop.
@abbbb5625
@abbbb5625 7 ай бұрын
I have had the same experience you noted at the begininning of your video: I was looking for a distro stable that does not require too much admin and allow me to program and focus my stuff instead of focusing on the OS. I installed many versions (not all mof course) but finally opted for a dual Linux: debian 12 XFCE and LMDE6 (both stable and reliable enoug for what I am doing) I really love XFCE because the interface is simple and stright forward wihout many feature you go stright to the point and LMDE because Mint interface is really smooth.
@ringo8410
@ringo8410 7 ай бұрын
I feel for new Linux users because as I said in a comment to one of DT's videos: the community can sometimes not be friendly to beginners. Yes, it's true that newbies should experiment for themselves and learn to read man pages before asking questions online. HOWEVER, seasoned Linux users need to be patient with beginners and remember what it was like when *they* were beginners. It can be tough to jump to a new OS.
@johanb.7869
@johanb.7869 7 ай бұрын
True, because we all started from scratch. Even after more than 6 years of using Linux I'm still a noob.
@ringo8410
@ringo8410 6 ай бұрын
@@ScottSeufert Totally agree, which is why I say that new-to-Linux users should read man pages and do the best they can to learn. BUT when they have legitimate questions, seasoned Linux users should not be snotty with them for asking honest questions.
@nlight8769
@nlight8769 6 ай бұрын
While I agree with your take, it is unfortunately not enough : I used linux like 15 years ago for a few years. But what made me abandon it is the fact that production apps were on WIndows. What prevents me from going back to it is the constant BS of fixing your os at each update. Like it or not, I use my computer to do stuff, os tinkering, hours of manual reading for doing basic stuffs is just... I mean you spend more time in your os doing nothing but fixing or learning its arcane rather than produce shit. Plus the updating a package might lead you to update another package that may be a higher version than what is required by the desktop or whatever, but you still have to find out, roll back in some of the most unfriendly ways. The most depressing being that I won't have much of a choice left as we are ever more going beyond 1984
@johanb.7869
@johanb.7869 6 ай бұрын
@@nlight8769 I never have to fix my OS after updates. I had more problems after Windows updates, like in 2017 when I made the switch to Linux after a W10 update borked my HP Sleekbook. With Timeshift you can make snapshots to go back after an update screws your OS.
@MrSedeyn
@MrSedeyn 7 ай бұрын
I understand his frustrations. Having the same problems in the beginnings but after some time playing arround with linux on and off. distro hopping too. I'm now almost 1 year fultime debian testing and gaming on it. no more windows here.
@splatink
@splatink 7 ай бұрын
To be honest, I've never broken a Linux system. I'm on Arch rn using the KDE Plasma desktop and can't understand what people are doing to their systems to fuck up so bad.
@phutureproof
@phutureproof 7 ай бұрын
sometimes all you need to do is "apt update && apt upgrade -y" and thats the end of that install lol
@imacmill
@imacmill 7 ай бұрын
​@@phutureproofBingo.
@LtSich
@LtSich 7 ай бұрын
@@phutureproof On Debian Stable you can do that without any fear... This is what a "new" user should use... No testing, no arch... Just Debian Stable...
@phutureproof
@phutureproof 7 ай бұрын
@@LtSich to be fair it hasn't happened in a long time but I have unfortunately run into it over the years 😭
@imacmill
@imacmill 7 ай бұрын
@@xCDF-pt8kj _All of you arch users are talking bs_ You made up your arch 'issues', so it's you that's talking bs.
@devincurrie4145
@devincurrie4145 7 ай бұрын
I have distributed hop for about 6 months after getting a Steam Deck and finally settle using MX Linux KDE. Seems to be working well so far for the last 3-4 months except that I sometime couldn’t boot into systemd option. Not sure why but overall it seems to be working fine on my two computers. Love the KDE’s “Workspace” feature instead of using the virtual desktop.
@saurelius5217
@saurelius5217 7 ай бұрын
I've had issues with Mate. When Adobe got rid of Flash support, I was stuck on a system update because Mate kept trying to download and look for updates for Flash from Adobe's site. It's stuff like that, that gets really annoying. Another issue is file management while more secure is a lot less user friendly. For example, I have multiple folders for GZDoom on my PC and I have it this way because I have certain mods in certain folders. If I try to use GZDoom on Linux, I can get a mod to work but I can't, or I don't know how to have multiple folders of the same program like I can on Windows.
@soulstenance
@soulstenance 7 ай бұрын
It's not exactly immutable, but LMDE ticks all the boxes for me. I would just use Debian but I really like having the latest Cinnamon, Nemo and all the stuff that the Mint team makes. Those packages are all too old on Debian stable and you can't exactly use Flatpak for core system packages.
@ArtsyDreamr
@ArtsyDreamr 7 ай бұрын
LMDE sibling by the way! That's also the distro that finally gave me the holy ability to switch and join the light side! Especially perfect timing given Windows 12 making Windows gaming obsolete even if Microsoft is too dumb to realize that. They WANT to turn Windows into Xbox. They want ALL the same rules on Xbox to apply to Windows. Given how much Xbox has slowly died, I think it's safe to say that it's the begining of Windows gamings end and the start of Linux gamings golden age.
@soulstenance
@soulstenance 7 ай бұрын
@@ArtsyDreamrWelcome! 🙌🙃
@sixdroid
@sixdroid 7 ай бұрын
just use debian testing.it's stable.
@soulstenance
@soulstenance 7 ай бұрын
@@sixdroidI've suspected that it wouldn't be too unstable. LMDE is still more stable though and is also always going to be more polished in regards to in-house Mint apps, where they were designed to run.
@Falkor82
@Falkor82 7 ай бұрын
I haven't gone 100% Linux, yet, but I am 50/50 for various reasons related to work and certain games (Star Citizen). There are also issues with even getting Linux installed on my new Asus TUF FA617XT laptop. Long story short: I try to install ANY Linux, other than Nobara, and the keyboard immediately stops working once it's in the GUI to install the OS. Maybe you could help figure out what's wrong because I can't find ANYTHING online that begins to help me solve this issue. I'd greatly appreciate any help.
@michaelgregory903
@michaelgregory903 7 ай бұрын
Have you messed with SteamOS on a regular desktop at all? I'm really hoping that will become a real thing because when I'm home most of my time on my system is spent gaming, or just watching YT, checking email, doing research or whatever. I am constantly rebooting into Winblows to play BF4 and use my Oculus rift (yes I still have the original) in other games - but unfortunately BF4 and oculus don't work in Linux. It would be my dream to have a decent Linux OS that could do that so I never have to touch winblows again, at least when I'm at home.
@ansxor
@ansxor 7 ай бұрын
Fedora Silverblue is pretty close to what you're talking about, especially with the uBlue images that exist. There's Bazzite, for instance, that exists as a SteamOS alternative.
@WolfiiDog13
@WolfiiDog13 7 ай бұрын
How I manage to never break Linux: I just run everything as it is provided by the distro, and all my apps are flatpaks. That's it, I never try to do crazy stuff that would mess up the kernel or drivers, or the bootloader. That's why immutable distros are the future, you need to have a reliable base system that totally prevents the end user from messing up, users are messy, they always do crazy stuff they see on youtube or read on a forum.
@StripesInTheYT
@StripesInTheYT 2 ай бұрын
That sounds like a much better life than a Windows user for sure.
@woswasdenni1914
@woswasdenni1914 7 ай бұрын
the main issue i see is less the breaking stuff, its more of a broken user expierience. alone copy and paste - that doesnt work in every app, in the same way etc ... there so many many many little things that are annoying, break flow of work or need some tinkering. many small tools that are for some user a must have dont exist. to many foss projects that started doing something, then got abandoned never finished. all the attitude, do it on the command like (which is by default more prone to error no matter how good you are, and are blockers for regular users) and the lack of standardisation the later blocks it from commercial use. if you cant have full control over all your desktops via policys and management tools then its unuseable for commercials in bigger rollouts. maac realized this problem and now offers such a thing because they had to. macs are still a niche thing in enterprises because it was unmangeable. but to make this work all distros need to come to a common ground, how to manage their system services, their configs and so on. instead distros drifting furter away. even if one distro had somelike like group policies the risk is simply to high that youre forced to move distros in a couple of years to another one that doesnt have it simply because of technical requirements. distros also dont care as much about having a fully finished product. its all raw alpha and beta kind of thing, unpolished with rough edges. for experts its doable (even tough often annoying) but these are blockers that would need support for a regular user
@poggybitz513
@poggybitz513 7 ай бұрын
I always recommend pop os or ubuntu to new user. I use pop us on my work machine, never hard problems because all I do is use it with i3 and write the stuff I need to do in it. I use my own distro in my hobby machine that I broke like 10 minutes ago trying to random automatic wallpapers from net. I think expecting to customize and also not expecting things to break is kinda stupid. I break windows, mac and any os if I am tinkering with the kernel and UI. Windows literally breaks on its own, compared to that most linux distros are quite stable.
@netsudro
@netsudro 7 ай бұрын
Hi there! I switched from windows to Debian 12 a month ago. I still miss windows because I got used to it, and I can't believe Gnome is missing some basic options I got used to. 1. Slow double click to rename a file 2. Drag and drop to and from archives 3. Image preview in file picker when I upload a picture 4. File copy pause button and speed details 5. Right click on a folder with music to play in some audio player I still believe the future is an android like Linux with amazing user experience. But I still have to go to windows on a vm just to open an official pdf or an eps file in Illustrator.
@NameUserOf
@NameUserOf 4 ай бұрын
Did you try Plasma? It has all of those and more.
@netsudro
@netsudro 4 ай бұрын
@@NameUserOf Thank you! I am going to move to Kubuntu next.
@BrokenKanuck
@BrokenKanuck 7 ай бұрын
Endeavour for a few years now, it has been incredibly good at just getting things right.
@Daniel_VolumeDown
@Daniel_VolumeDown 7 ай бұрын
To be honest there is a lot of immutable linux distros: -VanillaOS (ubuntu but packages from multiple distros) -BlendOS (arch but packages from multiple distros) -all of fedora immutable distros -bluefin (based on silvernote) but claims that it is more ready to go. -microOS desktop (from opensuse) - and there is probably a lot more... If you want something stable in a way, but different, you may try nixOS (hard to begin) or EasyOS (much different than standard linux distro and some things may not work the way you expect them on standard distro) EDIT: opensuse tumbleweed should also be oretty stable because it does automatic testing before they upgrade package.
@Endelin
@Endelin 6 ай бұрын
I've been enjoying NixOS with GNOME and Flatpak to fill in gaps for a few months now, it feels like it's 95% the way there to a truly fantastic experience for regular users. There are some nix config gui's being made but they aren't installed by default. Also getting my nvidia gpu to work right was still messy. For enterprise it might be more like 98% of the way since admins can setup more default features with their own configuration.nix and choose AMD graphics machines. (thanks for your video on NixOS btw. I had been using the nixpkgs for a while but your vid got me to try out the distro)
@malk6277
@malk6277 7 ай бұрын
Important video to make. I gave up on Linux too. After using it at work for about two decades and loving USING it (as opposed to administering and fixing it), I started using it at home after going freelance. The thing that broke me was the incessant graphics card woes. I'd get my system working just right, but either an OS update, or a driver update would regularly break it. The machine would fail to reach the GUI, and I'd have to do bizarre and ever-changing deep dives to try to repair it. See that's the thing: it was never the same procedure to fix it each time. Very rarely did I get to feel the satisfaction of benefitting from my previous pains with this sort of issue. I don't think many computer users want to sign up for this sort of experience. We don't want to live in trepidation every time we want to update our OS to keep it secure and with the times. We don't want to quake in our boots (see what I did there?) every time we embark on the arcane process of updating graphics card drivers. In the end, MacOS offered me the terminal experience I enjoyed so much from Linux, without the soul-destroying experience of trying to maintain a Linux machine while remaining productive at my actual job.
@sergeykish
@sergeykish 6 ай бұрын
Hackintosh would provide same experience, I've tried it same time I've switched to Linux, no audio. Perhaps I can say "what a useless OS". I use Linux supported hardware - Intel iGPUs for 15 years, no issues. Switched from NVIDIA I've used before.
@malk6277
@malk6277 6 ай бұрын
@@sergeykish Well I hope you didn't get the impression I was saying Linux is useless. I didn't say anything like that. Yes, Hackintosh would be a similar nightmare: I'm sure some people have fun with that, but I'm more concerned with being productive than enjoying endless OS tinkering. Interesting to hear using Intel GPUs yielded an issue free Linux experience for you. I used to work in Visual Effects and I'm not sure Intel offered anything powerful enough for the compute-heavy 3d graphics tasks I had to contend with, at the time. That may have changed now, but I'm quite sure Nvidia and AMD are still far ahead of Intel in that arena, so if I were still in that industry, I'd have to sacrifice GPU power for stability in Linux, but far less so in MacOS. Anyway, to conclude, I don't think it is fair to compare Hackintosh use in production, to using an Nvidia card in Linux in production. Assembling a Hackintosh contravenes a plethora of MacOS hardware expectations, whereas using an Nvidia card in Linux, uses Nvidia certified drivers, and isn't remotely as 'hacky' as piecing together a Frankenstein machine the OS developer actively wants people NOT to use to run their software.
@typingcat
@typingcat 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. I am so sick and tired of all those Linux promoters on KZfaq saying as if Linux is perfect and telling viewers to switch to Linux. Linux is the best, if you want to use only terminal, but if you try to use it as a desktop there are all sorts of problems. I have been using Linux desktop as my OS for about a year (used as a secondary before that), and for the moment, I think I will keep using Linux desktop, but there are so many GUI/graphics-related issues. I am using Wayland, and even though it seems that Wayland started about a DECADE ago, Java developers only started seriously working on supporting it. So, for the time being, no Java applications, such as Android Studio support Wayland, resulting in blurry text. Visual Studio Code also has problems. First, I had to do search and editing config files to enable Wayland to remove blurriness, a problem that does not exist under Windows, and then IME is not working on Wayland, so I cannot type Asian text. Also, its shortcut is for some reason not pinnable on the Dash, so I have to run it from the app list every time. And the GPU hardware issues. At first I tried to use Nvidia, which was a dumpster fire. Then I switched to AMD, but it was a dumpster fire for things like Blender and A.I. Blender kept crashing and it has been a known issue for over a year (meaning that AMD could not fix the problem). Then I switched to Intel Arc, and it has weird problems too like random screen freezing when doing a certain thing. Also, there is no official config tool from Intel, so unlike Windows, I cannot adjust the power/fan or view power consumption, etc. Basically a second-class citizen.
@altrogeruvah
@altrogeruvah 7 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with realizing that something is not for you. Kinda sad though that the reason was not being able to figure out the ideal distro. I'd personally choose the DE I like the most and then the distro. I think he might have gone about it the wrong way, maybe enjoyed the hype around Linux, but not Linux itself, or Windows muscle memory was too strong. I was using macOS since 2006, switched to Fedora this year and don't plan on changing any time soon, cause I had pretty concrete expectations before going into this.
@Grizzly907LA
@Grizzly907LA 7 ай бұрын
It's not a matter of "being something not for you." It's a crap isn't working the way it should be problem.
@ArtsyDreamr
@ArtsyDreamr 7 ай бұрын
​@@Grizzly907LAYeah and on many distros which lead to misconceptions. That's why it's important to research the people developing the distributions and what they mean.
@altrogeruvah
@altrogeruvah 7 ай бұрын
@@Grizzly907LA I agree with that, that's why people need more realistic expectations before using Linux. Most things will work out of the box and the ones that aren't can be solved with personal effort. Obviously no one has the time, energy or knowledge to do so, that's why it's not for everyone and that's perfectly fine.
@GSBarlev
@GSBarlev 7 ай бұрын
Especially once you realize that most DEs have builds on the AUR and now Nix repositories, you literally can live the dream now of having the UX you want on the platform you need. Said as a proud Arch+Pantheon user.
@Grizzly907LA
@Grizzly907LA 7 ай бұрын
@@altrogeruvah The person who sent the message is complaining more about getting stuff working that any particular flavor of Linux. That was his biggest gripe.
@anotheryoutubeuser
@anotheryoutubeuser 7 ай бұрын
The thing I dislike about Linux is that it is far too common to not have proper drivers. The sound on my Linux Mint installation is so quiet that I regularly have to use earphones. It's so tempting to go back to Windows where everything works fine.
@humansvd3269
@humansvd3269 7 ай бұрын
Windows 11 has great stability. Things just work really well, never had a blue screen of death, and drivers update is easy. But their spying, data harvesting, ram gobbling has turned me off from them. Windows will be a back up if there's something I really need from them. The advent of cheap SATA and m.2 hard drives enables me to do this.
@domojestic4155
@domojestic4155 7 ай бұрын
The biggest issue with Mint (and Zorin) is that their Kernel is *so behind* other distros. Even Ubuntu LTS, upon which Mint is based, will upgrade its distro over the course of its 2-year stay. Which, of course it would; two years is a *lot* of time for new hardware to develop and become adopted. Not Mint, though. They've been on 5.15 since 21 first released nearly two years ago now. People tout it for having great beginner usability, but it's just not stable. I daily drove it for 9 months before finally switching to Kubuntu. Even though I'm still on LTS, the experience has been monstrously better.
@leonidas14775
@leonidas14775 7 ай бұрын
I've had problems with sound drivers and trackpads not working right before. Usually upgrading the kernel fixes these issues.
@ArtsyDreamr
@ArtsyDreamr 7 ай бұрын
​@@domojestic4155Have you tried LMDE???? Maybe I'm just someone too obsessed with Mint but in my experience out of the box I'm already not experiencing glitches found in Ubuntu Cinnamon, Xfce, and MATE. I know you can update the kernal manually but that can break shit. Being based on Debian, I think they have a more up to date kernal? Unsure. Having a logistic approach and compartmentalizing Linux is the best way to not be over whelmed. I'm not switching to Mac Os. My eventual Mac will be used for software I can't use on Windows because of that God awful 12 update. That's it.
@anotheryoutubeuser
@anotheryoutubeuser 7 ай бұрын
@@talktothehat.3314 "You are doing something wrong." This is the problem with Linux. Unlike Windows, it's not apparent what is going wrong. I posted about my sound problem on the Linux Mint forum and even they suggested I try other distros so that I can find one that has proper drivers for my system. I haven't followed on that suggestion yet.
@jumpmaster5279
@jumpmaster5279 7 ай бұрын
Same here, just because people around me can't use linux, i can't use linux. Second is compatiblity. I used linux for 3 years of COVID, but the moment I got out and started my college, i forcefully had to switch back to windows 10 not 11 ( it's just malware)
@tarcisiosurdi
@tarcisiosurdi 7 ай бұрын
What about Fedora Silverblue? It’s RHEL, I know, but most importantly it’s already here and has an immutable filesystem
@LtSich
@LtSich 7 ай бұрын
I'm wainting on VanillaOS exactly for that... I'm happy with my debian testing on my computer and my debian stable on server. But clearly, on the destkop side, immutable distro + flatpak is probably something that will be very interesting for the futur !
@sixdroid
@sixdroid 7 ай бұрын
there is no true differences just for people who don't know what to do
@LtSich
@LtSich 7 ай бұрын
@@sixdroid that's the point of testing it :) On my opinion it will not be interesting for me (as a tech guy), but I want to see how it work on a daily use.
7 ай бұрын
How about Fedora Silverblue? Does that count as community run immutable distro?
@FOSSuser
@FOSSuser 7 ай бұрын
May not be immuitible yet but I am running pop OS now wish for a LMDE style pop version but not there yet. Was thinking about switching to Fedora but maybe going with Ultramarine over Base Fedora would be good to try.
@gzoechi
@gzoechi 7 ай бұрын
I just started with NixOS and I don't see how to break that one. If something doesn't work, boot with the last working config in the boot menu and restore a working version from Git. I also wasn't able to break Debian for many years.
@JCO2002
@JCO2002 7 ай бұрын
I've been using Mint for several years and quite happy with it. Has never crashed, everything works fine and fast. I only have one application that needs Windows, and for that I run Win 10 in a VM - with it not allowed to connect to the internet, which blocks the backdoor.
@Because-Linux
@Because-Linux 7 ай бұрын
I would highly recommend Tuxedo OS to new users. Especially if they have hybrid graphics laptops. It has worked almost flawlessly for me. The only thing that hasn't is sleep. I would recommend restarting after an update because avoiding that can cause some weird things ocassionally.
@pierreffx
@pierreffx 7 ай бұрын
I'm in the same position. Had been a Linux User for the last year and half but getting tired of bug, crash, and various problems I encountered. The last one made me switch back to windows with the loss of possibility to write to my second SSD for "lack of space" problem when 1.5Tb was available. I will definately come back to Linux later if I can find a physical ssd switcher to avoid using strange bootloader or if I build a second computer.
@gd2329j
@gd2329j 6 ай бұрын
It's probably the file system used by Linux ( Window can't use it ) .
@purplehayz1
@purplehayz1 7 ай бұрын
How do you break your linux distro? What does that mean?
@bleack8701
@bleack8701 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, immutable distros will definitely lead to creating a Linux distro I'd want to use. Right now there isn't one, but I can see the path to one being made
@bes12000
@bes12000 7 ай бұрын
im on Arch Linux(Garuda version) I cannot get certain games to play no matter what I try, mostly multiplayer games with anticheat (like Star Citizen and others), but other games like Alan wake 2, tried every single wine and proton version it just spins for a second and never launches, these are the reasons why I haven't fully switched to Linux... other windows apps seem to work fine, maybe a little glitchy but they work.. so Linux is about 95% ready to daily drive and make a permanent move, keeping windows 11 installed still just in case though... Also I wish there was a graphics card control panel for AMD like in windows, to activate advanced features like fluid motion frames etc...
@GSBarlev
@GSBarlev 7 ай бұрын
The one thing holding back SteamOS was the inability to install system packages. I say *was* because SteamOS 3.5 is configured for nix OOTB. I now have Hyprland in Gaming Mode, and my Steam Deck is now the perfect cyberdeck.
@docopoper
@docopoper 7 ай бұрын
I worry about RedHat becoming monopolistic if we all go immutable and us Flatpaks. And for all their advantages, immutable distros feel a bit iffy on the free software side of the equation. But it does otherwise make a lot of sense for the role Debian Stable fills to have an immutable version. But I'd want a community run alternative to Flatpak if I were to lose the ability to install debs. Appimages aren't quite fitting that unfortunately.
@Xaito
@Xaito 7 ай бұрын
I don't quite get what you're saying here. Flatpak is open. Fork it, configure any other repo than flathub and you're completely independent. Or use any other means of software distribution like app image or nix. I've recently switched to Linux and I hate the stability issues with updates of regular packages. I've had it with Nobara and Manjaro that updates don't go through without issue because there are some dependency version mismatch going on. It would probably help to go to a major distro rather than some forks to avoid many of such issues, but still - a immutable system seems like so much better of an idea in comparison.
@lucas7061
@lucas7061 7 ай бұрын
RedHat doesn't control flatpaks though. Flatpak is completely open-source and it's very much possible to change the source you get apps from. Elementary does this to provide their apps, and even Fedora has their own Flatpak repo.
@deultima
@deultima 7 ай бұрын
For the average person I completely agree, but I love breaking stuff. That's when you learn how stuff works. I love distro hoping for the same reason, keeps my learning new things. What I've learned over time is it comes down to use case. I use Debian on my servers for stability. Arch on my old laptop for how minimal on resources yet modern it is. I'm constantly trying new distros on my main machine where I live for a few months before moving on to the next camp. My daughter had no interest in ever using Linux, but I had the great idea of turning her gaming PC into a console with ChimeraOS for her new TV. She loves it and uses it everyday now. I created a new Linux user just by selecting the right distro for the individual use case for that machine.
@VacumOvale
@VacumOvale 7 ай бұрын
Distro hopping makes you use computer to install new op system, but not actually use it. Just stick to ubuntu and start doing actual work with your computer, not just install new distro and spend hours to make your mouse cursor look fancy.
@BT-vj6pk
@BT-vj6pk 5 ай бұрын
@@VacumOvale I don't disagree. And to Titus Tech's point, I realized really quickly that they were mostly just debian, so my distro hopping just became more about VMing as many obscure/specialized forks as I could find just to see what people would come up with. Never intended on making any of them a daily driver, but found a lot of them really interesting. Went with LMDE well before I got bored of exploring. Honestly I still like loading up some random OS in my free time.
@VacumOvale
@VacumOvale 5 ай бұрын
@@BT-vj6pk yea, but, whats the point? Its like girls not being able to decide what to wear before party. And then end up not going because nothing suits..
@BT-vj6pk
@BT-vj6pk 5 ай бұрын
@@VacumOvale Well my point is that people do for for probably as many reasons as there are distros. Though I agree that people who "can't figure out what to wear" are probably engaging in a futile exercise. For me its something more like a custom car show. Gives me ideas for my own customizations. Plus I regularly find useful software I've overlooked before.
@user-hz6qp1it2n
@user-hz6qp1it2n 7 ай бұрын
Could never get Linux installed on bare metal desktop with 4 monitors so I installed Windows 10 and run Zorin OS in a VM.
@user-mt4zr5kp7h
@user-mt4zr5kp7h 7 ай бұрын
I know most hardcore Linux guys aren't big on distros. But honestly, if this guy wants to try and is having a hard time with it, have him try Zorin OS. It was the one that finally got me out of Windows completely and the one I still daily drive now. It just works. I don't even miss Windows a little bit. Someone like Chris would fit sure find it bloated, I'm sure. But for me, it was just right. I just took off the apps I don't need and left the rest.
@RealEpikCartfrenYT
@RealEpikCartfrenYT 7 ай бұрын
As someone who actually used Zorin once, it was a more painful experience than Ubuntu with no gui
@BT-vj6pk
@BT-vj6pk 5 ай бұрын
@@RealEpikCartfrenYT Really? I was hoping it could be a replacement for windows for a family member who is non-technical but wants out from under microsoft/big-tech in general. Seemed pretty ideal when I was running it as a vm.
@RealEpikCartfrenYT
@RealEpikCartfrenYT 5 ай бұрын
@@BT-vj6pk most issues i had were something related to something called xorg. Tried 2 different ISOs across 3 computers. But that was 5 years ago if I remember correctly. Maybe the fixed it by now
@glennjarvis2672
@glennjarvis2672 7 ай бұрын
I have Open Suse running on a system that I use strictly for email/web browsing and never had a problem yet. Seems to be well behaved. What I did find with most distros of Linux is the lack of decent printer drivers, at least for the printers I have here. I have two Canons that simply cannot be used with Linux, a MB2120 (the driver just made the printer spit out blank pages till the tray was empty) and a MF4770n which a driver simply wasn't available. I have an old MG3020 connected with the Open Suse and it works fine. Keep in mind, I don't use Linux for what most people probably do, just simple things. My wife's machine uses Linux Mint. On that old Dell it seems to run fine and operates her TR4700 Canon printer with no issues. She simply uses it for email, web, zoom meetings and it so far hasn't been a problem. What I've noticed over the years is the stability of a distro seems to be related to the equipment. Some systems seemed to be more fussy than others. I don't have the latest equipment either, most are simply duo core systems and older.
@aperson1181
@aperson1181 7 ай бұрын
Would you recommend Mint for Windows converts?
@erikferguson71
@erikferguson71 2 ай бұрын
I have tried several distros, and Mint is my favorite, as a former Windows user.
@MFTAQ
@MFTAQ 7 ай бұрын
I do like Fedora Silverblue immutable for something that just works. I am getting ready to try Blend OS
@Nomad-qm3zf
@Nomad-qm3zf 7 ай бұрын
I'm frustrated with the tradeoffs. I want the stability of debian but with the package selection of Fedora. I'd like to use some immutable stuff like Fedora Silverblue, but flatpaks still don't have the ability to use smard cards which I desperately need for work. I cna't chill on debian stable because desktop linux is fixing issues on a near daily basis and I can't afford to not have that fix for 2-3 years.
@jeremyfirth
@jeremyfirth 7 ай бұрын
All of a sudden my pi-hole machine running Linux Mint stopped working. Well, pi-hole stopped working, so I updated it, and restarted my machine. Black screen. Tried all the tricks I could find. Nothing worked. Re-installed Linux Mint. Started up fine. Ran the updates. Black screen on boot again. Goodbye, Linux.
@WereCatStudio
@WereCatStudio 6 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with Linux as a new user especially during first few days was that often I didn't even know what I should be looking for when I had an issue in some cases so I couldn't even do a simple search on how to do things because I had no idea what I'm looking for. Ended up stumbling upon some solutions just by a chance. I went into Linux with expectations that I will fumble and grind to a halt in some cases but I wanted to learn. If I went into it with with expectations like "It's quite good now! Most things just work!" then I would probably reinstall Windows back within first one or two days. I'm back to Windows now again because of daily Wayland issues and I got really tired of it but I'm going to switch back and forth on a several month basis just to give it another try.
@alterhund4116
@alterhund4116 5 ай бұрын
First of all, the current Debian allows you to switch to X11 in the login screen. *Wayland ist not fully ready now* . My experience: I started that way too. a dual boot at some point. The Windows, due to security and sluggishness, is used less and less. My experience gained, my knowledge from the Sinx time helped me. As a tip, the current MX Linux XFCE is worth it because of the recovery tool and the creation of a backup USB stick from the running system. So if you mess up too much, you're ready to go again in 5 minutes. I still have my old laptop with Windows lying around.
@sjeanr
@sjeanr 7 ай бұрын
Your right. Start slowly and don't write it all off. Maybe even adopt some apps available in both Windows and Linux. I'm no expert, but live distros have an immutable feature. And distros like Puppy Linux and UBports have been prime examples of immutable or static where the core installation is protected from user applications. In a way I see many popular distributions clearing the pathway to be similar to Steam OS. In fact I think Steam OS just went forward and ahead of what Ubuntu has been preparing to adopt all along.
@tr0llingcat
@tr0llingcat 5 ай бұрын
It's interesting how I have a different experience than the guy. I moved to Linux 3 months ago. After long preparations and digging I chose Mint. I indeed had to spend maybe 10 hours to set it up how I wanted (+ digging for a few months ahead because I had to find replacements for some apps that do not run on Linux). I had to fix some issues (e.g., the second monitor not working, and long boot times once I had installed drivers for the second monitor) but when I considered I didn't have much experience before I think It was smooth sail thanks to great Mint being gr8 system and the community which helped me a lot. I was also surprised I had no issues playing games I like (thanks Valve and Lutris). Now I'm pretty certain I'm not going back to Windows as my main system ever again (maybe as VM but I haven't found use for it yet as everything works fine on Mint for me). Overall I hope more people will have the same experience as I have because it was 100% worth it.
7 ай бұрын
can someone explain me how can i improved laptop build in speakers sound quality. i guess problem on nahimic issue
@ryandls2592
@ryandls2592 7 ай бұрын
I think the reason people believe that windows just works is because they have been using windows for years so they know how to fix every minor problem. In a large majority of the cases thats it. I can't use windows anymore because i haven't touched it in years. When i was dual booting for a while, my audio source would always switch when i would open a new program. Its impossible for me to navigate throught the 5 separate submenus to open up a windows 95-looking dialogue to change my audio.
@commanderboo8879
@commanderboo8879 7 ай бұрын
Opposite experience for me as someone that's been dual-booting for months as well as having a Linux distro on my laptop. Audio device keeps changing every time I reboot any of my devices with Linux installed, while windows just works fine. Like I'm at the point where I use both about 50/50 but I find I have to actively acknowledge the operating system and take my mind away from what I want to accomplish or do way more still on Linux, where often times on Windows I forget what operating system I am even on. Also find the way my programs and other files are managed is a lot more disorganized and fucked up on Linux because there isn't one unified way I can manage or install everything. I don't dislike Linux, I just have found using both over a period of years has made me approach the feeling of being apathetic about what operating system use save for the fact half of the software I use isn't available on Linux so........ I installed Linux cause I really enjoyed studying and tinkering with operating systems in my op systems course. I do have a curiosity and interest in operating systems, but I find when my goal is to get something done that isn't just playing around with the operating system, running Linux becomes an annoying distraction working against "actually getting work done". I basically just have it installed on my computer nowadays as a way to explore the way operating systems work, and have actually been leaning towards purposefully using Linux distros I can hack a part easier and that don't try to pretend to be a serious desktop operating system... cause I just find it's kinda bad at being that.
@mattinykanen4780
@mattinykanen4780 7 ай бұрын
On the other hand, when Windows does break, I don't know how to fix it. It's like a modern car, where opening its hood reveals... another hood with the heartwarming warning that only qualified personnel should be admitted beyond this point. Whenever Linux breaks, I take a deep breath and remind myself that the basic design of any UNIX stems from the late 1960's, so it must be something rather simple. This is because I too am from the late 1960's, and I myself am rather simple.
@BT-vj6pk
@BT-vj6pk 5 ай бұрын
@@mattinykanen4780 My experience is that when windows breaks, which happens a lot, there are so many work arounds, safety nets, and fixes installed over the years that theres usually a solution. Or sometimes it just seems to bounce back unless it's completely fubar.
@ganthc
@ganthc 7 ай бұрын
I had a very old laptop that had Windows 7 on it. It ran really well, but with 7 being out of service, I decided to put Linux Mint on it. The install was super easy and fast, and the drivers all seemed to load with zero issue. The laptop is noticeably slower on Mint than on 7 though. Not sure why, but at least it is usable and not in danger of getting tons of viruses/malware. I haven't played around with it a ton, because it's not my main machine. I do like the update manager feature and the store to get approved apps. I do like that OS is super responsive, even if applications like Chrome or Firefox aren't. I will keep plugging away at it in my spare time. When WIndows 10 goes kaput, I will have another laptop that I will need to move to Linux.
@greekmanx
@greekmanx 7 ай бұрын
As a person who uses a 42" Oled as a monitor once we get HDR in Linux on the desktop and games then I will switch it is my last hold out.
@alienJIZ1990
@alienJIZ1990 7 ай бұрын
Zorin OS is the only one I've used where everything just works and updates didn't break it. But for servers they're pretty set and forget aside from improving security periodically
@NTATchannelNickTaylor
@NTATchannelNickTaylor 7 ай бұрын
I like Mint (Cinnamon), started out with it in a VM... was rather easy to adapt to.
@vitoru1000
@vitoru1000 7 ай бұрын
After years using fedora, I finally borked. Full ssd + F39 updates + lost of power.
@Morphishful
@Morphishful 7 ай бұрын
It will probably be VanillaOS, or a really refined set of user tools on top of NixOS.
@mikhailolokin8276
@mikhailolokin8276 7 ай бұрын
Does NixOS fall under the definition of “immutable distro”?
@StaceyAyodele
@StaceyAyodele 7 ай бұрын
I decided to go back to Windows with the new HP system I bought. I just wanted my games to work without any issues. Be it anticheat or mods (Frosty Mod Manager refuses to run on LInux), I just want my stuff to work. For that, my Windows 11 HP Desktop with a Ryzen 5 5600G and my RX 6400 from my dead ThinkCentre, I've got a good little system. I've had no issues in Windows 11 unlike with my old ThinkCentre that was slow as a snail in Windows 10 (even with an SSD). Linux was okay, but games is what brought me back to Windows. I don't see Linux ever being in my future again sadly.
@nikolaikolyago
@nikolaikolyago 7 ай бұрын
I've been trying to use Linux long term since uni. But I always had a ton of issues, mostly with hardware, that just didn't exist with windows. 1) Nvidia Optimus Asus laptop (2015-2018) - a lot of fn combination just didn't work. Also, Nvidia hybrid is a pain. 2) Other laptop (MSI) 2018-2021. Also pain with Nvidia. Ethernet driver was dying after sleep, was forced to do script to force reload driver kernel module. For some time laptop's speakers were muted no matter what, was fixing it by going to alsamixer and manually unmuting headphones (what? How are headphones even connected to speakers). No way to fix in ui. 3) Pc with Nvidia GPU. 2021 - now. Pain on multiple displays of different resolution with xorg. Wayland was not working when I tried. Sound from speakers is muted when hedphones are connected via front panel. Configured only on alsamixer. No GUI. On windows it's not muting by default, configured in reltek's driver. 4) Full amd Pc. Same issue with speakers/headphones . Everything else seems to work flawlessly, thanks god. --- Then, software. 1) I had great issues with connecting to my work Pc. Work Pc is windows. It's RDP via vpn. Gnome's RDP clint was not working at all, remmina sometimes hangs up on connect if the connection was somehow improperly terminated last time. Window's RDP client just doesn't care and connects anyway. Also the vpn is to internal network only, so I had to configure routes for it to ha e access to outer internet while connected. On windows I just check "route only local addresses" checkbox. 3) Mess of native packages/flatpaks/snaps whatever. But, well, ok, windows is not much better. But winget/Choco/whatever mostly solve all the problems for me. At least it doesn't download 1.5 gb of gnome runtime when you try to install gtk app on kde for the first time. 3) Mess of visual styles, especially of apps on different GUI toolkits. Well, windows is far from perfect too, but in my daily use most apps are more or less uniform and obey system's color scheme. But, maybe something changed there recently. 4) This is strictly my issue, but I'm .net developer. * Visual Studio is still miles better for c# than vs code. * If I need to run non-core .net, I'm out of luck. But ok, this is Microsoft's fault. - Meanwhile windows just works for me. 0 issues with hardware. Mostly no issues with software. I don't really care about telemetry (anyway good luck to connect to server via pihole) and I have powerful enough Pc to not care about performance/space. Also I don't care about auto updates. One of my PCs is on 24/7. Never once in last 5 years windows forced me to reboot while I'm working on gaming. So I just settled on windows 11 + wsl2 for my linux needs. Installed as win 10 3 years ago, updated to 11. As good as new still.
@lukabodroza
@lukabodroza 7 ай бұрын
Same for me, I always broke my OS within a week. That's why I love kinoite. I do love the Fedora community way more than Debian and Ublue just hits all of the marks I need. All of the drviers, even for RGB are preinstalled and everything just works. I need to mess around with stuff? Containers. I was manually controlling the i2c devices on my system via containers without an issue and did not modify my OS at all.
@marcello4258
@marcello4258 7 ай бұрын
Even Titus went back to windows as we see in this very video 😂
@Keaton.
@Keaton. 7 ай бұрын
I installed Linux Mint few weeks ago in a 32GB flash drive to use on my laptop that has no storage and it ran pretty nicely. Tried to use RustDesk so I could just use to capture screenshots from my website and debug remote stuff... but 24GB of dependencies? lmao what the heck? Windows version is like 10MB or so...
@az9az9az9
@az9az9az9 7 ай бұрын
In kUbuntu 23.10 it's enough to break the system just by updating Nvidia driver that comes from default repro. Then you can't anymore switch between CUDA/Optix capable driver and low powered Nouveau driver that supports EnvyControl Optimus switcher.
@GraniteFaun
@GraniteFaun 6 күн бұрын
Did you also turn of the immutability of steam OS?
@picklerism
@picklerism 7 ай бұрын
Gentoo for the win!!! The only other distro to tempt me away over recent years is Devuan.
@prima_ballerina
@prima_ballerina 6 ай бұрын
Moving to Linux can be a long and winding road. I started dual boot in ~2002, tried Suse, Red Hat what became Fedora - I guess there were more distros I can't recall. It wasn't until 2009 when I started using Ubuntu as my main OS and Windows became an "only for gaming and audio recording" OS. In 2011 I found my "final home" in Arch Linux, after trying Gentoo for a few weeks. And it still took me until 2017 to ditch my Windows install completely (because of gaming). And I think if I hadn't find the "perfect" distro for me personally in Arch I'd still dual boot and be searching. Until Arch there were always many things that didn't work for me in other distros.
@insidegurtsshorts3274
@insidegurtsshorts3274 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone run CachyOs or endeavour? I've been daily driving Arco Linux for 2 years now, and looking for something stable for development, yet a little bit of customization options. I'm used to being able to tinker with every aspect of my system, but it's not a have to thing. I want a distro that really just works, and that can run games on steam. I honestly went from barely knowing anything about linux straight to arch, and learned a lot. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
@Skewrz
@Skewrz 5 ай бұрын
Never used Linux, but have been interested in trying it as Win10 is to be discontinued support next year and I dislike 11, don't have another PC though to mess with the distros though so I'm looking forward to a highly stable linux OS (if one can get such a thing)
@adjbutler
@adjbutler 7 ай бұрын
Whats your thoughts on SnowflakeOS?
@aaronplays_
@aaronplays_ 7 ай бұрын
I've been using Nobara KDE in a VM for almost a year and have recently installed it in a drive alongside Windows 10. I'm surprised the simple option to change the login screen (SDDM) clock to 24-hour format. All I get is people poking around config files to make it 24-hour, which shouldn't be the case for an OS that wants to be friendly. Why doesn't it take the format from the Region/Unit format settings in KDE? Besides this, I also have a bigger issue where my Archer T6E AC1300 wifi card fails to create a hotspot using my PC's wired connection. I poked around various forums and found NOTHING that worked, every alternative network system or methods end up failing to create a hotspot and gives the error message "Authorisation supplicant timed out". Everything else regarding the wifi card is working fine in Nobara, and I know hotspot is working in Windows.
@classicrockonly
@classicrockonly 7 ай бұрын
I couldn’t find my forever distro either after 10 years. I’ve been mainly running OpenBSD for the last 2 years now. I still have to distro hop Linux because there’s always something wrong. I keep it for gaming now
@christopherstaples6758
@christopherstaples6758 6 ай бұрын
its possible to merge Linux /MS kernels together for seamlessly running both desktop simultaneously , pretty sure daves garage has something about the way to do it , ps for Linux to be unbreakable it comes down to the file system so you can roll back snapshots when something does break I have been using same desktop profile (/home ) across multiple Linux distro's since Debian 3 (Woody)
@luisjavieravilaolivera2471
@luisjavieravilaolivera2471 7 ай бұрын
Vanilla OS 2 is going to be based on debian
@UtahTaffer
@UtahTaffer 7 ай бұрын
The power of Arch at hand!
@alisdair42
@alisdair42 7 ай бұрын
Not sure what most people think about this take, but imo, one thing to make sure that people stick to an immutable distro is to have multiple desktop enviroments avalable, I very neasrly made the switch to Vanilla but without KDE its just not for me
@MarkDavidMcCoskey
@MarkDavidMcCoskey 7 ай бұрын
I've found my home with both the Budgie and Cinnamon desktops, notably with EndeavourOS. These just work for me. My Win10 machine has been relegated to being a Music Server. Now that the Raspberry Pi 5 is out, I'll eventually put together an Android Desktop with KonstaKANG's latest build.
@AindriuMacGiollaEoin
@AindriuMacGiollaEoin 7 ай бұрын
I had to start with Debian when I first started out, had so many issues 😊
@ReLoneR
@ReLoneR 7 ай бұрын
I tried so hard on linux for last 2 month , from completely noob level. Fixed all my problems, except for one. I cant play game on my main screen and watch twitch/KZfaq on second . It just lags terribly. Tried to fix it for 3 days, but i guess it just dont wark on Nvidia, but ive read about same issues on amd also. I just gave up and came back to windows, here two screen media just works
@merciful9042
@merciful9042 7 ай бұрын
i used linux for over a year, i moved back to windows but ià m so glad i used linux it made learning usefull skills fun and interesting. everytime i fucked up something on linux i learned something and had a great time chatting with people and going through wikis, i still use it for developing wiith the WSL. even if you donà t plan to use linux as your home OS give it a shot and play around with it, something that linux has really felt like magic just to say one distrobox really is the most interesting piece of software i've used in a while.
@skf957
@skf957 7 ай бұрын
I switched from W10 to Linux Mint 21.1 9 months ago and still can't believe a) why it took me so long and, b) why aren't more people leaving that nasty piece of spyware behind. As to stability, completely stable due in part to my not fucking around and therefore not finding out.
@patrickprucha5522
@patrickprucha5522 3 ай бұрын
I guess as a user, i started with Linux in a dual boot system. I had done this with dual boot. While in linux i used a book called "the linux command line-Complete Introduction" and i practiced for 6 month, on the command line, and scripts, etc. So all this to say is that before i dropped Windows, i practiced to a point where i felt comfortable. I was very comfortable with windows. While using windows in a dual boot system, i learnt how to make it work and found out about grub. I made many mistakes but learnt much more on linux than on windows. Then i dumped windows and started with Lite Linux for a year. I learnt KVM and started building VM's to do some distro hopping. They were all cool and fun. I am not a fan of gentoo. Too much work to get a working OS. I realized after distro hopping the following a) mostly all distros, after you take away of the DM, or WM, you have the same command line, and the same basic tools. For any tool or software you need, you download with the distro package manager. b) most distros are based on debian/arch c) Debian is the most stable and you don't have go crazy to fix all the problems. d) monitoring errors using Journalctl or syslog or dmesg can make your hair grey. Errors are happening all the time, If your system is working as expected, then you don't have to go crazy and solve all the messages in your journal/syslog files. Finally after all that distro hopping im down to Debian 12 with KDE. I find Gnome no where like windows, but KDE much closer to windows. I find gnome to difficult for windows users, but KDE or XFCE are better because thats the windows environment today. Gnome may have been good as an alternative to Window8.0 with the start menu. But everybody hated that and opted for Windows 8.1 which was much better. I believe windows 10 is the best of the windows operating system. Even better than Windows11. But that is a choice. In the End, im very happy as a Debian12-KDE user. Its Debian Of Course!!! :) Second is Arch.
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI 7 ай бұрын
A little bit of an advantage here. We had retired before Windows 10 arrived, and thus moving to Linux had little drama. In three years we've yet to "break" Mint. We just use it as an OS that works for us every day. And compared to the one MS Windows box I still have, Mint actually shuts down promptly. We live with "time of day" electrical rates and a fast shut-down keeps me from getting chastised for using high power rates. What motivates us sure has changed in the last five years,- not grinning on this one. Am smiling about the overall reliability of Mint coupled with the cheap computing power we can build these days.
@inteliconn995
@inteliconn995 6 ай бұрын
The same! Thanks and good luck!
@Patrick-rd5vh
@Patrick-rd5vh 6 ай бұрын
In 2010, I experimented with Ubuntu and Linux Mint, but Linux wasn't suitable for me at that time as a replacement for Windows. A few years later, I have decided to build Hackintosh. That was a bit difficult to get it to work. The experience was good once it was working. Eventually, I got tired of fixing it every new MacOS release. So I started using Linux again in 2020, and Linux has improved quite a bit since 2010. I have experimented with several Linux distributions, including Manjaro, Linux Mint, and Fedora. My new desktop PC has Debian Testing installed, and my laptop has Linux Mint LMDE installed. I am not interested in returning to Windows
@Craftidore
@Craftidore 7 ай бұрын
I wonder how close ublue comes right now
@kamertonaudiophileplayer847
@kamertonaudiophileplayer847 7 ай бұрын
Strange, is there any noticeable difference between Windows, Linux or MacOS? My kids using all systems without even having an idea they use Windows or Linux. So I assume your friend's just joking.
@cloudtro
@cloudtro 6 ай бұрын
I've found more than a year ago that Arch with plasma suits me the best. Now with all wayland plasma 6 around the corner is a good time for linux in general.
@DireNeeds
@DireNeeds 7 ай бұрын
I have used Linux on and off for over 20 years now and have been looking for something I could use more consistently. LMDE 6! I usually edit GRUB to get me into windows first but I haven't had to do that yet. Since installing LMDE 6 a couple of months ago I only go into windows to play games that won't run on Linux. But if they did I would probably be in Windows a lot less.
@MutantOpa
@MutantOpa 6 ай бұрын
I can recommend rEFInd as Grub replacement. I had a hard time with Grub finding the EFI partition on the right disk when I set up my dual(multi) boot PC. Installed rEFInd, restartet and et voilà. GUI boot menu that detected all startup binaries. Thought I let you know as I read "grub got uninstalled" and thought it would be annoying to fix my multi-boot setup. Greetings from Germany.
@disasterarea9341
@disasterarea9341 7 ай бұрын
ive been on debian stable less than a week and already had crashes :D going in discord voice call (i just installed it from the deb no snap or flatpak) and it actually froze my system up. the system itself is pretty stable but anything that doesnt come pre loaded on it can be a bit of a risk
@chrisomarpr
@chrisomarpr 7 ай бұрын
what name for a browser you use?
@kanji.debian
@kanji.debian 7 ай бұрын
He's using Thorium. A fork of Chromium.
@jasonho4299
@jasonho4299 7 ай бұрын
flatpak on linux mint just kind of weird cause they will break when updating ,is so dump,but using repo to install is more stable & mint is easy to setup even you are using nvidia
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