Lion: *breaths* Guilliman: He's showing off.

I can't believe you did not read the part with the table and the chairs... ‘So, this,’ the Lion said, gesturing to the long table. ‘This surprises me. A work of emotion, not logic.’ The light of the late afternoon, discoloured by the storm, flooded the chamber through high windows. A long table, carved from stone, dominated the length of the room. Around it were twenty-one chairs, all built for the scale of a primarch. Each one was cut from the same mountain granite as the table. The chair backs were draped with banners. The great seat, at the head of the long table was draped with the pennant of Terra. Two of the other pennants were plain and made of bleached, un-dyed cloth. The other eighteen were the banners of the Legiones Astartes. ‘You did this?’ The Lion asked. ‘Are you mocking it?’ asked Guilliman. The Lion shook his head. ‘It moves me. You still believe in a day when all of us, all of us, can sit at a table with our father, as equals, and talk of the matters of empire.’ ‘All of us,’ Guilliman nodded. ‘You made this room in anticipation of that?’ ‘Yes, many years ago. Does that make me sentimental?’ asked Guilliman. ‘No, brother,’ said the Lion. ‘It shows you possess a soul.’ He set his hands on the back of one of the chairs bearing an un-dyed banner and leaned. ‘Two will never come,’ he said. ‘Yet their absence must be marked,’ replied Guilliman. ‘Places must be left for them. That is simply honour.’ The Lion straightened up, and slowly pointed, in turn, at the banners of Horus, Magnus, Perturabo, Mortarion, Curze, Angron, Alpharius, Lorgar and Fulgrim. ‘Others will never take their seats, unless as conquerors,’ he said. ‘I know,’ said Guilliman. ‘Yet their places must be kept. I believe in the Imperium… In the continuity of the Imperium.’ ‘That it will endure?’ ‘That it must endure. That we must make it endure.’

“Everything is fine Guilliman. I have a minor bat problem on my ship.” Konrad screeching as he plows into a squad of Dark Angels. “But my Knights have it covered.”

"HE swung at our primarch!!" "Our Suspicions are confirmed!" "the space wolves are working with the FALLEN!" "Make Him REPENT ASMODAI"

That honor guard of 9000 Space Marines would have been enough to crush an entire star system cluster in modern 40k.

Guilliman's mom should have become an imperial saint and show back up to keep him humble, I mean then there is the part she stares down The Night Haunter.

The Lion is the right son to conquer an empire. Robute is the right son to build the empire. Rogal is the best to fortify the empire. Sanguinius (blessed be my sons name) is the right son to rule the empire.

I really liked to conversation between Guilliman and Euten, it really shows how she is like his mother. Like Konrad Curze said later in the book because she helped raise Guilliman he is the only Primarch to have a "mother".

Ive gained a deeper respect for the Primarch's due to this channel. Now as a result I'm giving different chapters I wasn't initially intrigued by another look. Thanks Wolf Lord Rho.

Imagine the Lion and Guilliman in a heated discussion, then Euton appears, and she speaks: "Stop arguing this instant, or you will get no cookies after dinner" The Lion looks baffled that this little woman dared to speak to him that way, but he is more surprised when he sees Guilliman ashamed, hands behind his back, head bowed and with a pout he says: "Yes, mom. Sorry..."

That is a great scene. I feel the Lion has been written very differently from book to book. This was my favorite portrayal of him. I love that he embraced Robby. It contributes to the idea that the Lion may be socially awkward, but he is not a machine. He cares for others, at least some others, but is not sure how to interact with people. Other depictions of him, I think, go too far into uncaring machine territory. I found the description of him as not understanding his underlings or their capabilities hard to swallow. How can you be one of the best generals ever and not know what your people can do?

I treasured every moment Guilliman and Euten interact. You can even see in the stern Guilliman a glimpse of warmth and tenderness each time he addressed her

THIS! THIS IS HOW THE LION SHOULD BE WRITTEN!

I think Robute is far more sensitive than the lore has let on. There are examples - his encounter with Kor Phaeron, his thoughts about Konor where he just misses his dad. I think even his dedication to organisational skill could be a way to compensate for the deep wellspring of feelings he truly experienced. Guilliman had a mother figure, rare for the Primarchs. Feudal Lord meets the Democratic Leader. I love how similar they are yet reach such different results

The Lion, being a stone cold badass as per usual, polite, but tactful and watchful. We really need the Lion at the head of the Unforgiven.

Im not going to lie, I think its super cute how Guilliman refer to the Lion as 'My Big Brother' to Euten. Its tiny, but I love those human moments between the Primarchs. Despite everything, they are siblings - and I find it incredibly precious.

Ultramarine: We feel inferior to the Dark Angels because they are the first legion to serve the Emperor. Guilliman: Daddy's home. Dark Angels: We are jealous of those mineral pigments because their dad's back while our dad is sleeping his ass off like the galaxy is not on fire.

I will give the Lion this... He knows how to make an ENTRANCE with his lads!

One of the most Badass characters in the 40k Universe, being verbally demolished by Euten. It makes you think what the other primarchs would have turned out like, if they had someone to metaphorically clip them around the ear.

I am a First Legion guy. The Lion all the way. I have the audio of this book and this is my favorite part to replay. The meeting tells you SO much about the two primarchs. Roboute felt that he needed to justify himself to the Lion, that he was overshadowed by him. The Lion had legitimate affection for Guilliman, but was willing to "burn and splinter Macragge" if necessary. The Lion did not ever build HIS own empire, it was all for his father. Guilliman saw the 500 worlds as his own, an issue of vanity. I like Roboute, but the Lion is my guy.

The Lion is the kind of guy that comments "First"

Easy to understand why Guilliman is so beloved by many. Can't imagine many of the Primarchs allowing such an exchange with one of their subordinates. Definitely going to order this book.

Its great to see Guilliman be like a shaken younger brother. He's relatable.

As a history buff, I love some of the historical references in Warhammer 40,000. When the Wolves follow Guilliman and he says "you're making me looking like a chieftain of Illyrium." Illyria (later Illyricum) was a region north-east of Italy which was filled was barbaric peoples who frequently practised piracy and raiding.

It's still funny to me that most people forget that the original Dark Angels color scheme was black, rather than their current green, red, and white.

Unremembered Empire is probably my favourite book of the series. Know No Fear is almost as good, both being fantastic "redemption" for the Ultramarines and Guilliman after the stupidity and damage Matt Ward did to them. There is so much of it that is fantastic. Euten is an amazing character, the Watch Pack are hilarious and badass with their fight against Curze, Vulkan's insanity, the Alpha Legion assassination attempt, Guilliman's humanity opened up, Curze vs The Lion and Guilliman - Abnett is one of, if not the best, writers of the series. I hope you also do a video of the Primarchs discussion in the special room a bit later in the book. That's a great scene about all the Primarchs as well.

By the God-Emperor. Tarasha Euten is a treasure. [Spoilers ahead] That the Wolves of Faffnr Bludbroder and the Primarch of the Salamanders risked and gladly gave their lives for her (some quite a few times...) is no mystery to me.

The First. So precise that they can make the master of the Ultramarines envious. Think about that. The Ultramarines, held up as the paragon of all things Space Marine, get out Space Marined. Even over Sanguinious, Guilliman looks up to Lion. Adds more to the speculation that The Lion may have been named warmaster, had he been found before Horus. But we also see a bit of Lion's flaw. He shows respect for Guilliman by showing perfection. He probably would have done the same, had he visited Fulgrim. But while Guilliman showed admiration, bordering on envy, Fulgrim would have showed envy, bordering on rage. But this is also a wiser Lion. One who had started to understand betrayal, and started to prepare for the unexpected. He is absolutely correct to have the legion on standby. To keep Curze a secret. This is a Lion who follows the "trust, but verify" doctrine. I sincerely hope Lion is the next to return to 40k. I think it creates interesting interplay. A chapter that has some suspicion around them, led by someone Guilliman respects more than anyone other than The Emperor. But The Lion has been burned by betrayal. How much can Johnson allow himself to trust his brother? Will doubtful 40k Guilliman become overly deferential to the one loyalist primarch he truly feels is beyond him? Will Lion be wise enough to realize that Guilliman covers some of his own weaknesses?

There are a few things to consider in this passage. It is hinted at here that the Dark Angels helped wipe out (almost all) the Thunder Warriors when their time was over. This does also play into their secretive nature. I did see it written somewhere that although both Guilliman and The Lion were loyal, their loyalty was different. Guilliman was loyal to the Imperium as an ideal whereas The Lion was loyal only to the Emperor. The Space Wolf feud scene to ruin all the formality was also pretty cool. The wolves actually top this moment later in the novel when they fight Curze for real to protect Guilliman's mother.

I actually love how Guilliman is typically portrayed as a cool and collected commander and builder of empires but on a personal level there are so many things that upset him, make him feel envious or otherwise get on his mind just like normal person.

2 Minutes in and I'm reminded why Guillimom is best mom

At this point when the Lion returns i just want Bobby G to go hug the Lion and say: Im happy to have you back brother.

“Bob mate!” “Lionel, long time no crusading! How’s the chapter?”

And now for the reunion

"you're a pain in the ass, you know that." as if we would want our Vlka Fenryka any other way.

The lion just really really wants to be the big brother he's supposed to be, i can relate to that.

I had a rare chuckle at the exchange between the wolves and Rob on the staircase. As for Rob and the Lion; I actually found Rob's personal feelings... well, kind of charming really. I also agree that the Lion has become a marquis player in the series; his appearances pop off the pages for me and he's 'leveled-up' for lack of a better term as the years have gone by in terms of his character development and abilities. I hope we see him soon in 40k

It is most interesting thought: Guilliman thinking that Lion is better then him, overshadowing him. How will he feel when his brother return in M42? He is now second only to the Emperor in modern Imperium, and with Lion’s return, will he feel jealous? Or relieved? Or even both?

Honestly what I love the most about this is these stories of Guilliman compared to how he is now, how much a man like him changed

This is the First lore video across many channels, that made me order this book. Fucking well done sir. The insight you brought forth, man gotta read this now. Thanks!

When your space marine nanny calls you a foolish boy. You know the primarches are still human at heart.

Love how you go into the personality of the Primarchs, what made them who they were and some insight into what they became and why. Lots of food for thought. Well done.

The Lion Awakes!

This book almost proves that The Lion was second to Horus for the Warmaster title.

The Lion is proud. And has reason to be.

The writing behind this work near brought me to tears it’s flawless

Loved this meeting, the 1st legion was my fave from day 1, even before there was mention of the lion. The lion is my faveourite by far of the primarchs but I guess I am byassed being a dark angel tragic. His return would be huge and though I haven't collected or painted 40k figures for perhaps 20 years.... A new lion model may see me return 👍

Oh man, sometime soon you will need to make a Part 2 of this video, this time in 40k.

Also need to remember that when the primarchs were spirited away from their incubation chambers, they did not re-appear in their respective worlds at the same time. So in theory, the Lion may not have lived the longest years despite being the first in the incubation chambers.

This book changed my preconceptions of Rowboat. I found he was nothing at all how I imagined he would be. In my head I had him down as a starchy, humourless jobsworth. But upon reading this novel I discovered that in fact he has a wry sense of humour and is deeply (although controlled) emotional.

Will you do interactions between characters in the books? An example would be when that crippled blood angel walked with a custodian guard down to help protect the throne of terra and they passed normal civilians, the way they each treated them was huge. Please do videos on that!

I love getting incite on how tall or large the Primachs are. The Lion is a bit taller than Bobby. Hope we get more as the Heresy plays out.

The unremembered empire is such a great book. Long live Emperor Sanguinious!

One shall not Doubt in the Lion. He's a Knight, He keeps his words, albeit he got Honor

this is my favorite short about the lion. he's good and he knows it.

Honestly this universe and lore is as close to a masterpiece as it gets. I hope the quality increases. I've become nervous that the modern lore may get kinda rough.

Wolf Lord Rho your title does you great justice.. I want to say thank you for bringing the Primarchs to life and making them relatable . I've found myself more interested in getting to know more about them . Can't wait for your next upload

As a proud Smurf player, I am excited that the Lion is coming back!!!!!!

My lord! I have fallen in love with Dorne because of you, I salute thee

the lion was probably thinking that guilliman was building his own empire like malcador during the horus heresy.

Over all of the subtleties, though, I can't help but think it's a measuring contest.

I love hearing a Primarch swearing and talking like this, it honestly makes them more human.

Not a big fan of the ultra marine, but I do like Calgar and papa smurf. So much has been written about papa smurf, he is by far the most flash out primarch. In 30 and 40k I really enjoy his conversion with his trusted human advisor/friends.

Lord of the first legion does have a nice ring to it

I love Lion. He is so awesome. He’s so imperfectly perfect for 30k/40k. He and RG have such great chemistry together. Can’t wait for their reunion in 40k.

Ok so who is that lieutenant that talks to Guilliman like she was his girlfriend? It's really sweet.

Looks like this one's gonna have a part 2

Man I loved The banter with Ultramarines and Wolves.

You also have to respect the fact that Guilliman acknowledged that Fafnir likely would have actually taken his head with that strike. Given a prime opportunity a space marine actually can kill a primarch

I think, in the current timeline, if The Lion returned and met Guiliman that Guiliman, even with his controlled emotions nature, would embrace Lion like the Lion embraced him in this novel. I imagine the reaction would the the same just reversed. Guiliman being more loving and Lion being caught off guard by Guiliman actually showing emotion. I would really love to read that meeting and by the look of things the Lion may be returning soon.

Keep the stories coming! Thanks for doing them they are great

What I find interesting is how so many doubted Gilliman, not just Jonson.

Keep up the great content... these are the best videos you've done (that I have seen) but I am hardcore biased for my old 40k army. Dark Angels have my favorite primarch and my favorite traitor (Cypher).

Nous sommes venus, nous sommes la mort !! (We came, we're death !!) Great channel, my lord !!

The real Lion Week has arrived!

My favorite video. The meeting of these two brothers, it's epic. Roboute humor adds a unique dimension to his character its fantastic. Great background music choice doesn't overshadow or drown the meeting, buts builds upon it. A sense of calm before the storm of horus siege.

I have listened to you wolf lord for some time but I do fine I re listen to this video a lot. I love how Guillemin is called jarl and how the Lion puts a wolf on his arse =D

Maybe my favorite video so far, barring Dorn vs. Alpharius. You've truly done the books and lore justice with this channel, no telling how many sales you've netted Black Library. Huzzah good sir, huzzah.

We are waiting for the Lion's return for that Tour and Inspection.

Loyalty is it's own reward

Hey Rho. Really digging your channel. Glad I sub'd. Excellent stuff.

He was now only a few paces away. The lion stopped short and removed his helm. He watches as his brother did the same, pulling the blue helmet of the ultramarines tight to his side. He bowed his head in acknowledgment as he closed the final few paces between them. There could be no doubt, this was his brother. The Lion could now see the heaviness in his face and eyes. Weariness? Perhaps. This new imperium they have both found themselves thrust into was indeed burdensome place. Or was it weariness of the lion himself. Why him. Why this brother and not another? Why the Lion, the one whom was banished for his secrets. He shook the notion from his mind. They were nearly face to face now, and as ElJhonson prepared to speak, his words became stuck in his throat, he felt a pain in his chest. The pain of regret. The pain of failure. The pain of bonds broken that had not yet been mended. The lion stopped short of his brother. He could see the sadness in Roboute's eyes, but also the fire that only the eyes of a primarch could hold. His mind was now racing, desperately searching for the right words to say, he had never been as good a statesman as his brother for whom these things seem to flow naturally. He feigned a cough as if clearing his throat, now barely holding his classic stoic and aloof gaze that had served him all his life. And then it happend. The great winged helm he held at his waist was now tumbling in slow motion Before him. His brother, without a word or sound, and without even the Lions exemplary reflexes allowed to react, embraced him with such force that this time it was the Lions helm that was dislodged from his grip. He winced at first at the sounds of his helmet rolling and clanking off the ceremite floor, but the strength of the embrace he now found himself in said everything that was needed to be said between them. Relief washed over him, and the Lion replied with an embrace of his own. One befitting a Lion of the first. And as they each pulled back Guiliman smiled for the first time since their eyes met. He looked down at the Lions helmet and bent over to pick it up. As he rose to hand it back to his brother so spoke for the first time. "Your getting slow old man." Said Guilliman with a smirk. The lion roared in laughter, the memory of their last meeting brushing his mind. "Perhaps I am, " he let his response hang..." but I'm still faster than Angron." Robute's face darkened if only for a moment at the mention of his traitorous brothers foul name. Then placing a hand on the Lions shoulder he said " Now that brother, is a story I must hear."

I have no one to talk to about 40k and this channel helps that deficiency. My wife appreciates it lol. Thank you if you had a patron I would give at least something.

The way giliman tells fafnir he's a pain I get the feeling he means it with affection

Loved this video and glad you find the lion as amazing as I do :)

Wonderful storytelling, so glad someone playing Deathwing told me to seek your channel out.

i find the content on this channel interesting, i just hope its not hit with copyright for quoting some books

Gimme more vids on the lion /dark angels/the fallen this was a great vid m8

After listening to this exchange between Guilliman and the Lion, it's clear that Luther is the villain, although it's his perceived slight by the Lion that set off the series of events that would doom Caliban. Chaos, of course, is always around to take advantage of any situation to gain a new plaything for their game.

Man the vids you do are just glorious and amazing!!! The lion is very interesting primarch.

So I just finished listening to "our martyred lady" audio drama. The chaos presence is repeatedly referenced as 'the 8 turned god' hearing Guilliman called ' the 8th found Lord' freaked me out way more than it should have.

Man, I love your videos! You made me go and buy both Dark Imperium books and decide to get into 40k to play Ultramarines just because I loved hearing about Gulliman and his philosophy. Thanks for the hard work you do!

as guilaman,in the rare times he can be home on macrage goes to a certain graveyard,alone he sees the graves,each one,dug for his adoptive family and the ultramarines he truely exalted. the avenging son would sit next to the grave of his adoptive parents, and chuckled "mom,dad....if you were both here....youd be wanting me to relax as i cried myself to sleep every night,wouldnt you...funny... now that i think of it." as the sword of unity placed a caring hand upon it,hed get up and mourn,only to see in the distance,the feathers of a hawk,and a raven. on the ground. the feathers of both birds in the area gave guilaman flashbacks,to that of corvus and sanguinius,brothers he, albeit not got along with usualy, were his dauntless few, his trusted and those he worked well with. "this must be what it is like for you,isnt it....being broken,nearly alone.... unable to save anyone. and that's what you both felt. pain,sorrow,lonelyness." drawing his gladius incandel,with one motion,the feathers would be sent on there way via the wind "sanguinius,corvus... whereever you may be are my brothers....i only hope it is a place better then here." in the warp, the sanguinor looked out to the chaos drenched hellscape,and to the star child. the sanguinor spoke. "tell me, father. do you know if we may ever retake the galaxy and save it again?" the star child shook his head "i know not. but i have faith in guilaman. i only hope his will can survive long enough to see his brothers again. the lion especially" "would omegon even join guilaman?" the star child shook his head again "i know not. but its possible." to be continued...

This is more relevant now since both Lord Lionel and Lord Roubute are both back. I really want the baddest team up for the both brothers. They both deserve it.

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Wolf Lord we will be watching your career with great interest.

This hits different now

the industrial speed of that duel caught me off guard

23:57 That voice crack killed me

I love their relationship, it's lowkey wholesome

The humanization and humor present in the primarchs wasn't something I expected. I've only ever read a few 40k books and no 30k so I never really read anything with them in it. Guilliman being embarrassed by the wolves in front of his big brother and the giant crowd is pretty funny.