"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive. Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house. "Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down. "Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup. If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff. You can use BackBlaze too. I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents. I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage". But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.

Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.

That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.

A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.

I LOVE Liron Segev and his channel. I have learned SO MUCH from him, I would be totally lost otherwise. Thank you very much!!

I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.

Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly. *As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.

Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.

Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.

I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant. I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.

Great vid mate. For a beginner who wants go backup mainly photos and videos on my phone etc, which of those u linked would u recommend? Thanks!

Great video! As someone who loves outdoor camping and values quality family time, having a reliable backup power source is crucial. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option. With its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets, it's perfect for powering all our devices during our outdoor adventures. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!

very solid viedo. good advice AND narration. Thank you Liron!

Thanks for this video, very interesting and well pesented! I myself use restic in combination with naeon to store my backup (chunks) in untrusted environments like the cloud. That way I avoid having to depend on the cloud hosting provider when it comes to proper encryption key management.

I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?

A great day along with a great comforting belly! It is the most peaceful and grounding realization on this earth! Great doctor!

After watching this video, I think you're right that most people should have a Synology. So, I jumped out on your links and am looking at how much Synology you said is. Thanks.

I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?

Thanks for all your great videos. Can I put different sizes of hard drives( 12tb and 6tb) into those bays? And what is your advice about ds1823xs+ for the purpose you just mentioned and my movie server? I'm about to purchase it. Thank you

Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir

Hi Liron Segev, Great video. I have two questions: 1. How is this product different from WD Cloud products? I had one of those WD cloud products that failed during the pandemic and it costed me an arm and a leg to get my data back. 2. I have some SATA HDD from previous computers, can use those in this device?

Yeeessss!! This is exactly what I was looking for. I hate being so enmeshed into iCloud and G Drive!! Thanks for the video!!

Meanwhile :- thief break in your house and steal this NAS system💀💀💀.

Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.

Sorry if I missed it, but is there a wifi option? Physically, I wouldn't prefer to keep the NAS next to my router.

I use the synology ds220j which offer similar features and love it. Great piece of kit.

Hi Liron, great video like always :-) If i want the same NAS with only 2 bays that i can access remotely... do you have a suggestion that is less expensive for me ? Thanks

If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?

What is tue heighest rate of encryption that you can choose for these devices ? Thabk you 🙏

One of the others may be if the company goes down of abandoned the product then it may become obsolete

does the autosave to onedrive feature of ms office work on this? Regarding the cost: I've found older models of synology for around 250$, and two WD 1 tb HDD's cost around 200$ so it is 450$ for that. If you are paying 10$/month for a cloud service you break even in 4 years. It is not that bad. And if you have spare HDD's lying around like I do, you will break even in just 2 years. However if you go for premium models with 5 slots they indeed cost a lot.

Hey Liron, love your channel. Can you get a NAS that incorporates SSD instead of HDD?

I love how you make things seem simple. Unfortunately i still got hung up on the raid part. I will read the link you posted

I was disappointed to learn how expensive this system is to obtain & put into operation. Well, I figure I will need to continue w/cloud storage.

This is exactly the system I have. I can be on vacation and my photos get backed up to my RAID half way around the world.

Hi, have you had any problem with the mobile app saying “install drive on your Synology storage” when it’s already installed? Also because of that, it doesn’t sync

What size drive(s) can each slot hold and can they be SSD?

am I able to share a link to another when using a NAS, like on dropbox etc etc? Thanks for the video. I have now watched the video and subscribed. You answered my question Thank you again.

How about the DiskStation DS223 for a little less money? Or do you suggest the 4 bay is better

It is absolutely incredible how many companies have multiple (different areas of the company) single points of failure and do nothing about them.

Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.

Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.

can i use it for my course videos to be streamed and not be downloadable on my website?

Do I update after adding the remaining 2 drives? Can it be something like 8g 12g and 16 and 16 later?

Liron can this be hooked up as a DVR for the TV? What's needed besides the NAS and the TV channels lol?

Ah, finally the NAS talk! 👍 👍 I'm rocking a DS918+ and love it.

This is for real handy solution. I am using two memory drives to back up my data. So you can actually can put hard drive of any memory?

Here the reason to use cloud storage: your stuff is backed up with minimal effort, for a set fee. You don’t need to worry about drives failing (or having the skills to rebuild a raid). You also never have to remember to plug anything in. If your house is destroyed, or devices stollen, you still have your data. I’m not saying that a NAS is a bad idea, but for the average person that struggles to operate an iPhone, paying for cloud storage and loading an app to automatically backup your data every time you turn your devices on, a cloud solution is a much better solution. A local NAS in hour house is great until it’s hit by a tornado, hurricane, fire or flood. Are those odds low? Maybe, but isn’t that the reason why you have a backup anyway? I’m sure you could probably talk your mom or friend into letting you set up a mirrored site for your data…but now all your data is sitting at someone else’s house…and isn’t that your whole argument against cloud storage to begin with….it’s someone else’s computer???

so i have a pc with over 50tb drives in it and i have a nas with 2x16tb how is it gonna save everything? also your house burns down now you lost everything so you need a 2nd external backup for the backup

When making your own cloud storage how would one opt for one that isn't non-physical?

Amazing video my friend! Thank you for this tutorial. 5/5

I have a laptop that is connected 50% of the tike to my asus proart monitor so struggling to cone up woth something that suits me for storage and redundancy. I was thinking of doing a NAS but soon we are glojg travelling in a van and the lack of decent internet at times and lack if space will make that NAS idea not doable. Whatever direction i twke, my personal, non work stuff is backed up on 4 extetnal drives (2x seperate 2 disc raids in mirror) so the chances of both going down at the same time is practically nil. Plus 1x set is in my parents loft, out of the way. Any ideas on a lightweight, slim storage method for either 2 drives i can raid or even better, 4 drives i can raid?

I turned KZfaq in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.

any guide how we setup sync locations two locations this to make sure , back are made in difference locations

Does this backup photos with all the meta data? One of my issues with other back up services is that it never saves the file data, and so the location and date and time is always lost.

What about decentralized storage like "STORJ"? And thanks for the video. I didn't know about NAS.

I love mine! I have 4 12TBs. No such thing as "too much space."

Over my life I’ve had several hard drives failed on me. It cost so much money to recover data. Now I’m keeping for each drive at lease two backed up drives 😅

😄 "the creep" lol!! that was classic 😁

Can an AmberX device be connected to this? It's a cloud device as well that focuses on security as well.

Hi Liron. I note that the offering is with traditional HDD. I have been upgrading systems with SSD implementations, and the results have been spectacular, particularly with older laptops. Wonder if there is a solution for a NAS system that uses SSD technology?

Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.

Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?

I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.

Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉

Well, how does the problems of having a hard drive backup be any different for this setup. The hatdware can fail, be stolen,etc

No encryption or even e2e encryption option? Sata buffer?

Does it come with the hard drives or I should get separately

Would you consider making a video on the harder way i brought myself a r710 and wanting to control my own data.

If I back up my photos from my iPhone to the synology storage, then delete the photos from my iPhone will the photo still stay on the synology storage cloud or will it delete it too?

Nice video, but what do you install the NAS to ..a network server, your desktop, or your router?

Lost me at Ethernet port. Not having internet access in my apartment, how can I offload my phone’s photos and videos to either the ‘cloud’, an external storage device or both ? It’s an iPhone 10

About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.

What sort of budget do you need for this? Say I need 4TB of redundant storage

So with this, should I delete my cloud storage AND stop using Apple's Time Machine?

Yo bro im working on a Video about how to gst more storage i would love to use this thumbnail if thats okay with you?

Thank you so much Liron. You made my decision of creating soon a NAS easier.

I bought a network storage device (personal cloud) made by a prominent hard drive manufacturer several years ago. It worked similarly, (except no backup of the backup). Last year the company quit supporting it and it only works locally, on Windows 10, our windows 11 computers can’t access it. Will this drive become obsolete in a few years as well?

So many questions, but first, before I buy, my need is to backup my iphones, photos, and music. I have a P.C. and just purchased my first Mac. I need to backup all the things I mentioned but I want to use it for backing up my Mac and to use as primary storage for any video editing I do on my Mac. Do you know if I can easily swap and store files on the Synology while using Final Cut Pro. I am brand new to this so if you have the answer, talk to me like a I am 10 years old so I can understand you. THanks.

So how if those NAS also broken? isn't it have the similar component with HDD right?

Can you make a video explaining how having internet access to your nas is secure? Mostly everyone advises against that so i have not opened mine up to that.

But Apple iCloud and others use E2EE? Isn't that safe for sensitive documents? Not sure I want another piece of hardware.

hi, great video! do you have cool informations for secure ubuntu server or nice software to use ? thanks

What if my hard drive in my computer crashes can it put the whole operating system back on a new drive?

You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.

Do I and can I power off the NAS like my laptop every night? I can’t trust electronics powered on 24/7… thanks for any help

Do I need the same amount of storage on each drive?

Data can be recovered by the forensic tools in kali Linux, its probley the electronics thats given up the disc should be all good as long you wind the reader arm correctly and not scratch the disc. it can then be removed fited to a working drive where you can remove your files

I once thought I had the solution - a duplicate PC, but both PCs failed on the same day! Now I have multiple backups.

I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.

"There are only 10 kinds of people - those that have lost data, and those that will". I've been saying that for the last 11000+ years.

How is this not also a single point of failure also? ⚡️💀

will it be end-to-end encrypted? or when you send files they can see them on the way to drive?

I've been looking for this type of solution. I like it a lot!!!!!

I didn't see any detail about what kind of hard drives were unpacked to slot into the device. Does it come with a couple of empty hard drives ready formatted? If not what size do you obtain and have they to be formatted first NTFS ? FAT32? The back up process seems also to need cable connection to router/modem and I wouldn't be happy to do that as my cable router has no spare ethernet ports and I don't like the idea of my stored data connecting to the internet directly. All a bit confusing so I'll stick to my two cloud storage places and two external terrabyte solid state drives. Keeps my album stuff safe

Hi Thank you for your explaining but the problem is when i upload it i can see the files as (preview) and i have to open it one by one to fine what i need it takes from me long time to find what i want especially when i have hundreds of (pdf) files and hundreds of short movies CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT ? Thank you

Aside from the fact that you can archive and put a (strong) password on the data you put on the "cloud", what is the fundamental difference between a NAS and a regular PC that you would keep it on while you are away and use it as a NAS where I would keep a second back-up of those files? For example a thin client/mini/micro PC that also draws very little power. Or a router with USB storage. Would that work as type of NAS?

What OS is that on the laptop/PC you using in the video? Also thanks for this Info⚜️

I think you know something about this technology but do you know what is end to end encryption?

Is it possible to have this setup and it sync to the users portable drive like you can with Dropbox or One drive? That way when you make a change to a file it auto syncs to the NAS.